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A Bittersweet Experience

As some of my regular readers know, I am a professional singer as well as a politics-obsessed bloggista. Last night, I was privileged to sing in a Concert for Life, sponsored by the Project People Foundation. The experience left an indelible impression on me.

My part in the concert was small: I was there as a “backup” for the Cantor at the temple where I sing. (That temple has long been a partner in PPF’s efforts). The rest of the time, I was able to sit, snack, and enjoy the other performers. And what a show it was!

Project People Foundation is dedicated to improving the lives of impoverished and AIDs-scourged South Africans. To highlight this focus, PPF opened the concert with performances from South Africans who are part of the cast of The Lion King. They danced and sang with amazing energy, skill and passion. Then, an absolutely phenomenal gospel group sang several pieces that were so inspiring, they almost convinced me to convert. (Oy!) In the middle of all of this was a celebration of Nelson Mandela’s 90th birthday, complete with a gorgeous cake.

Finally, the gospel choir closed with a knockout performance of “We Shall Overcome,” with the first verse sung in Hebrew to honor the Temple’s participation. The entire room stood up and held hands spontaneously. It was incredibly moving to touch strangers and colleagues in such a comfortable way, and sing along with that ultimate anthem of faith and resolve.

That was the sweet, and how sweet it was.

And now, for the bitter.

The performance took place at a large, prominent, mostly African-American church. Barack Obama’s name was mentioned twice by various speakers, both times in the context of how inspiring it was as an example to children and adults that an African-American could be nominated as a Presidential candidate. (He hasn’t clinched the nomination yet, but I knew where they were coming from.) The folks in the room seemed to agree (I saw a few nods and heard a quiet “Yes!” or two), but there was no applause or loud affirmation of these statements. (And believe me, this crowd was not shy – if you’ve ever been to a service in a black church, you know what I’m talking about.)

In fact, both of these statements were made by men, and I saw some female faces around the room freeze a little, as mine did. I wondered if the two thoughts that went through my head were running through theirs:

1) Women of color could have been inspired by Hillary as well as Obama; and

2) Why isn’t he better?

Let’s address #1 first.

Reverend Jeremiah Wright mentioned Hillary Clinton in his controversial “God Damn America” sermon, and his remarks were instructive. He asserted that Hillary hadn’t had to work twice as hard as a white man to get the same job. It was a laughable and hugely ironic statement in the context of this primary, considering that Hillary has now all but lost the nomination to a man, although she was the winner of the popular vote and has a resume that, by any objective measure, dwarfs Obama’s.

Clearly, gender equality is not a part of Reverend Wright’s awareness. As every woman in his congregation could have told him, women do have to work twice as hard as a man in order to get the same job. Of course, even if they are fortunate enough to get such a job, they are paid, on average, 77 cents to the man’s dollar.

Is there any reason to assume that Hillary Clinton would not continue her work to gain gender equality as President? No. The only way to beat Hillary was to smear her with false accusations of racism and race-baiting, and that is exactly what his campaign did. Out of an understandable sense of community, only a brave few African-Americans stood up for her or Bill Clinton in the face of Obama’s divisive tactics, and those who did were intimidated with primary challenges or, in some cases, death threats from the Obama camp.

As frustrating as #1 is to me, #2 is what really hurt. Why is he The One, as Oprah famously dubbed him? What has he ever done for the black community? What has he promised to do for the black community? Why does he talk down to the NAACP and perpetuate white stereotypes about his own people?

Why doesn’t he appreciate how much his community needs a figure of great stature, a person who aspires to be a fighter for social justice for all Americans, a person who strives for peace and an end to institutionalized racism and bigotry of all kinds – yes, even unto sexism and homophobia? Why isn’t he humbled a bit by what the unqualified support of the black community means?

It breaks my heart that Senator Obama was not asked these questions by the Party Leaders before they decided to elevate him to national status. Fair or not, an African-American candidate will bear the burdens of his long-suffering community on his shoulders, just as Hillary would be expected to bear the burdens of long-suffering women on hers. And as I looked at all the faces around me last night, holding hands with a beautiful stranger and pledging to overcome, I could only think: African-Americans deserve better. They deserve so much better than vague platitudes about hope and change. They deserve a deep understanding of their plight and a lifelong commitment of time and resources, of heart and soul, towards mitigating that plight.

For all of our sakes, I hope they get what they deserve from America and, should he prevail, Barack Obama. As we all know, it’s been a long time coming.

Cross-posted at Oooh, nuance!

88 Responses

  1. Beautiful post Madamab….

    However, we all truly do not know where Obama’s allegiances lie. He himself is not ‘black’ so to speak; he is half African and half white. I’ve seem him take ‘black’ people to task more often than any politician in my lifetime. Obama would have made Jesse Helms proud. They both have said similar things, but Obama is just more eloquent and less demonstrative.

    I don’t believe in racial politics, as a black man I know race is still an issue, however any good man (or woman!!!) can be a champion of civil rights and the benefits of diversity of race, sex, religion, etc. What really amazes me is the quick and nearly absolute, whole hearted embrace of Obama among the black community. Now ‘our’ dreams are in many ways ‘connected by a noose’ to the fortunes of Barack Obama; if he goes down ‘we’ go down. I wonder if he realizes this…

  2. DRII –

    Now ‘our’ dreams are in many ways ‘connected by a noose’ to the fortunes of Barack Obama; if he goes down ‘we’ go down. I wonder if he realizes this…

    This is exactly my question. He seems to be promoting himself as a symbol of hope to all African-Americans, yet does not say what he will do for AA’s if elected. Does he get how devastating it would be for AA’s if he lost? Does he even care? If he follows true to form, he will blame the voters for not recognizing His Greatness. It will never be his fault for not being good enough.

    I have never bought his line that he transcends race. It seems like a cop-out. If he transcends it, he can avoid talking about it and dealing with it.

  3. I wish you could post this at MyDD or Daily Kos without getting torpedoed. You raise valid, unbiased questions that would be nice to have answers to.

    Thank you for your post.

  4. Today, there’s a column on the editorial page of my local paper that asks: Is Obama Proof That We No Longer Need Affirmative Action?

    I haven’t yet read the piece, but I do believe the rise of Obama, and his complete acceptance by the AA community may raise questions and issues that will take that community by surprise. There is always a flip side to mindless euphoria. Pride in identity politics is completely understandable, but POTUS is too important, especially now, to be simply handed over to anyone simply because of race or gender.

  5. Shainzona – Thank you!

    It was not easy to write this, but the concert affected me so much I felt I had to do so.

    I am tired of guilt and intimidation determining the debate. Can’t we finally begin to speak honestly about race in this country? I think that’s what we all hoped the candidacy of Barack Obama would mean.

  6. DRII, I think he does realize at some level that if he goes down, so will the AAs who voted for him – and the rest of us by default; he simply thinks he is invincible at this stage. I believe that in O’s mind, everyone is expendable – we are “things” that can be used and disposed of after being fully exploited. His tendencies and his nature seem narcissistic – he is all about himself and whoever in the moment can be on his side, he tolerates. When that moment is over, under the bus with them. I don’t think that he has much of a conscience.

    That said – madamab, that was a gorgeous post. We’d love to hear you sing – can you get anyone to video and You Tube it for us?? And I love your one act plays!

  7. Thanks, Delphyne!

    I do have a website that has some old recordings of my singing. I need to make new ones and update my site! D’oh!

  8. As I read your post, I kept thinking, the king is wearing no closes. The media is trying to keep the spell going. What has he done.

  9. This is a great post madamab. The way that the AAs have been played has broken my heart too, and I have tried to explain it to any AAs that I know. I gave up because I could see that they were set on believing in him, but it seems that some of them too are starting to be disillusioned now.

    The people at the very back of the visible political action who put Obama up to beat Hillary had NO interest in strengthening the AA minority. They are using him and them to clear the way for themselves to continue robbing the people and the country for their own gain.

    Don’t even say that Obama might prevail. It can’t happen. Period.

  10. Madamab, this is such a beautiful post! It’s it truly bittersweet.

    I’ve been saying this all along – and I’m a WOC: WHAT ABOUT MY DREAM TO SEE A WOMAN AS PRESIDENT?????????

    Madamab, the women that winced at his name either found it offensive to be mixing politics and religion and/or were Hillary Clinton supporters.

    And this is the question I’ve asked through the primaries: WHAT HAS BARACK OBAMA DONE for Black people?

    ANSWER: Take them for a ride. Talk all you want, but Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton have done a HELL OF A LOT more for Black People than Barack has every done and will do for them.

    He couldn’t even be bothered to visit the NAACP, the Tavis Smiley convention in New Orleans, among so many important Black events.

    Has he visited a Black neighborhood after the race-baiting in South Carolina? NO! Why? Well because he already go their votes in his pocket, now they too go under the bus.

    Look at the South Side of Chicago whre he was a “community organizer” – the only pseudo-full time job he ever had. IT’S STILL FALLING APART – and the people living in his convicted pal Rezko-rama projects are freezing with no hot water & heat..

  11. Thanks for sharing your experience. Thru your writing I can “feel” how moving the event was.
    As a woman I paid “closer attention” because Hillary shared my gender; BUT IT WAS HER GRIT THAT GOT
    MY UN-WAVERING SUPPORT!!
    I HOPE “AA’s” who vote for Obama “feel” the same for themselves about their choice??
    If the answer’s “YES” God’s speed:
    If NOT I hope the chose someone else!

  12. great post. I was at an mlk celebration event at a school in a mostly african american neighborhood in march shortly after the wright story broke and there was a white mae speaker who kept talking about how much obamas nomination meant (he quoted “the math”)to black children and he was met with lots of enthusiastic cheers. what I found interesting, though, is that the black speakers did not only mention obama. the keynote speaker was a prominent reverend who endorsed hillary and the mc of the event, a black woman, also talked about rice and powell. the one white guy who spoke was the only one who kept talking about what a powerful symbol obama is for children everywhere…

  13. Madamab, thank you for your beautifully written post.
    I applaud your courage while I sense the trepidation you must have felt writing it.
    (Which in my mind is the very definition of courage.)
    I wrote in a comment on another blog that the way Obama interacts with black people is like watching someone give a starving man a poisoned apple and calling it compassion.
    If you were the starving man you would be grateful and unquestioning.
    If you were an observer aware of the duplicity, you would be puzzled and sad.
    If you were both starving and aware, you might likely be angry at both the starving man and the man with the apple.
    I am starving, aware and furious.

  14. Does Obama realize the weight, responsibility,and aspirations of the AA community on his shoulders.? Absolutely not.

    He was never part of that community. He has never lived their experiences or realized that burden of legacy .

  15. Thank you, josgirl. That was also beautifully said, and I appreciate your sharing it.

  16. Sorry for the spelling errors
    “they choose” someone else.

  17. Please call both Howard Dean and Nancy Pelosi (phone numbers below) and tell them:

    Please use your power as a Democratic Party leader to ensure an open convention in Denver. This means allowing Hillary Clinton’s name to be placed in nomination and encouraging delegates to support the candidate who is most likely to win in November.

    If you do not do this, you are betraying the intended democratic process of the convention, and you will harm the party tremendously.

    Thanks!

    Howard Dean’s Office – (202) 863-8000, you’ll get connected to the comment line

    Nancy Pelosi – 202 225 4965 – you will get her voice mail and her personal greeting.

  18. Perhaps Bernie Mac “hoes” comment referring to the wives and Obama ‘just messin with you”, wink-wink, nod-nod respose, finally woke up some more African American women to what we mean by the misogyny that is rearing its ugly head in our culture and how Obama is a full fledged sexist pig.

    Some AA women get it, perhaps more will.

  19. I think we have already seen the best of Obama!

    Hillary will triumph and prove what an incredible person she really is. I truly believe that she will do everything she has promised and more or die trying!

    PRESIDENT HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON 2008

  20. Wonderful post, Madamab. Obama doesn’t care about the black community because are not *his* community. Obama’s “community” is the huge investment banks, oil companies, the nuclear and coal industries, and so on. Obama’s base is the same as Bush’s base, the rich and the superrich.

  21. OH – how nice to see and hear you!!! Thanks for your website.

    (Our son attended Oberlin for a dual degree…has a great bass voice (at the age of 17!!) – but alas, he didn’t want to do it professionally and didn’t like the politics he found…so now he just does it for his own enjoyment….like last month at his wedding. I was thrilled to hear him!)

    Music tames the savage beast!!!

  22. EMJ…keep posting your comment in every thread…it transcends topics and keeps us focussed on the prize.

  23. Carol –

    I truly believe that she will do everything she has promised and more or die trying!

    The President of BET agrees with you. He was incredibly offended at the Obama camp’s race-baiting of Hillary and Bill Clinton because of their deep and lifelong commitment to the black community.

    It’s a tragedy that so many were too blinded by the rock star aura of Obama to look below the surface of his accusations.

  24. bostonboomer – “Some call you the elite. I call you my base.”

    Can’t you just hear Obama saying that?

  25. Thank you for your lovely piece. There is nothing more uplifting than serious music to bring people together.
    I am sure that AA women must be wondering, as too are men of the Jesse Jackson generation.

    I found an interesting survey of the youth vote, including AA statistics, from early this year. AA youth were excited about this election because: 34% poss to change bad direction country: 22%a woman has a serious chance: 29% an AA has a serious chance to become POTUS.
    http://www.democracycorps.com/strategy/2008/05/myspace-election/?section=Analysis

    What I mean is the AA community is not monolithic. And Axelrod’s propoganda machine has a lot to answer for.

  26. this is it — this is exactly what I have been thinking and have not been able to communicate —
    BRAVO !!

  27. Laurie – That is truly fascinating. It’s amazing how that information was not allowed to come to the surface during this campaign. But then, that would have interfered with that famous Obama narrative. And here I thought Republicans were the ones who tried to create their own reality!

    SimoFish – Thank you! 🙂 And thanks for your recent Brazile intervention. You and your fellow PUMAs were great!

  28. NH — I hope you’re right and the AA women are waking up. I was so incensed on Monday when the MSM didn’t go after Bernie Mac.

    Hillary has a track record and would do so much more for all communities.

  29. madamab – you’re welcome. We’re bringing our signs (shipping them) to Denver. We had so much fun. Tomorrow 30 PUMA’s are coming over for a BBQ at my house.

  30. You rock, SimoFish! 🙂

  31. Hi Madamab, This is a beautiful post. I wonder what your thoughts are about the way Obama’s campaign so totally turned up there nose at the blue collar white voters in the heartland. I have thought it ironic that he could be a great leader for all Americans, and a good thing for the AA community at the same time his supporters were referring to another group of citizens that haven’t always had the best breaks either in such demeaning ways…you know, the whole inbred, toothless, yada yada yada, stuff. Can you imagine any other group behaving that way, as we all saw on kos and other places. The same people would never talk about AA’s like that, and to be so seemingly unaware of the absurdity of that….just blew me away. How so called progressives would tolerate that level of discourse about ANT group…but we saw it about women, poor whites, you name it…all those of us under the bus I guess. It has always seemed to me that it revealed a deep prejudice that they probably also have towards poor blacks, and maybe they don’t even realize it.

    I have many reasons for not supporting Obama, but his derision towards all of us “lessor” beings was what finished it for me.

  32. err….ANY group, not groups of ANTs.

  33. this is off topic, but PUMAs are being scolded.
    http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/07/top_democratic_official_sends.php

    Dear Democratic Friends:
    2008 is a Democratic year-at all levels in all the states. The opportunity is ours. We just have to seize it.
    We experienced an exciting, intense, sometimes difficult, campaign to nominate our presidential candidate. Now it’s over. Barack Obama won.
    I supported Hillary Clinton and am proud and pleased that I did. But she lost. Barack Obama won. It’s over.
    It is time for all Democrats, supporters of Senator Clinton and all other contenders for the nomination, to stand with him to secure his election and the election of Democrats at all levels of competition.
    I must confess a bit of fatigue and irritation with people who continue to carp, complain, and criticize the results of the primary and lay down conditions for their support. The Los Angeles Lakers didn’t establish conditions to recognize the Boston Celtics as NBA Champions; Roger Federer did not demand concessions before recognizing that Rafael Nadal defeated him at Wimbledon.

    It is time to act in a mature and resourceful fashion. It’s time to put the primaries behind us. It’s time to support Barack Obama without conditions or demands.
    It’s time to WIN for Barack Obama, the Democratic Party, America, and our future. We have an unparalleled opportunity. I hope we will all do everything we can to seize the moment.
    See you at the Inauguration.

    Sincerely,

    Don Fowler
    DNC Member At-Large, South Carolina
    Former Chair of the Democratic National Committee
    Alice Germond
    Secretary, Democratic National Committee

  34. josgirl – that is one disturbing letter.

    The primaries are not sporting events.

    It is never time to support a politician without demanding anything from him or her.

    God Damn, Obama is interviewing for a job here. If we don’t hire him, it is his fucking fault.

    Don Fowler deserves to lose his job. What a poor excuse for a public servant.

    Carolyn in PA – Hatred is NOT a liberal value. That’s where the “progressive” blogosphere lost me, personally.

  35. wow, don fowler’s letter is simply offensive. do these people not understand that we have the right to vote however the hell we want to? they act so offended and disturbed that any of us might come to a different conclusion than them and I just cannot understand it. i proudly supported Hillary on her own merits, she earned my vote. barack obama cannot earn my vote because he is unqualified. what part of that do they not understand? obama is not entitled to my vote just because i supported hillary.

    these people can go to hell. each and every day they find a way to make unity seem LESS appealing.

  36. madamab
    As I lurk in the shadows I am impressed over and over by the thoughtfulness, relevance and excellently written posts and comments that I have seen on this site. This one touched me to the heart. One of the things that concerned me greatly when making my decision as to whom to vote for, was whether Senator Obama was really good enough to represent the African Americans who have strived so mightily to overcome. It’s a complicated issue to address and you did it well.
    I hope you all know there are many people out here who may not show up much but greatly appreciate what is going on here on this blog. Thanks.

  37. Obama’s entire life has been one of a spoiled white kid. He was trained to think of himself as superior. One doesn’t have to read too much about the attitude of his mother that led her to make the choices she did to figure out that she felt she was above others. There is a huge difference between genuine acceptance of all people and selective acceptance to show society you transcend them.

  38. josgirl –
    wow more of that get over it you sore losers shit!! cool – I’m now cured!
    Sorry PUMAs gotta go help ole Barky.

    on a brighter note – today I was thinking about the reports of Backtrack O-Dino burning through money like a hot knife thru butter….and how he did that in the primaries only to lose and lose again…. I felt hope and pride that at least most voters cannot be bought.

    Now if only the votes of voters actually get counted.

  39. JJ – Word!

    FYI to Don Fowler and his ilk: Yelling at PUMAs “Just give up and do what we want!” is exactly the kind of arrogant, bullying thuggery we would expect from an Obama supporter.

    Thanks for further verifying our stance that the DNC does not give a rat’s patootie about democracy. They are just interested in winning at all costs and backing their beloved Barack.

    Pathetic.

  40. josgirl…any e-mail addresses for Fowler and Friend?

    I am definitely going to “speak” with him.

  41. Thank you, blognovice. That was lovely and much appreciated. 🙂

  42. “josgirl”
    Thanks for the link. Why is it up to “us” the Hillary supporters to make this WRONG / RIGHT !!!
    Should’nt Obama & crew be the ones responible to “GET US” !

  43. Shainzona, no I don’t have emails yet.
    I just followed a link posted on NQ to the TPM site, didn’t even read the comments.
    If I run across the info, though I’ll be sure to post it.
    These guys should hear from us about this.

  44. Just checked your site, madamab – now I think I understand your email name! Your voice is very clear, very confident and just gorgeous.

    That letter from Fowler is offensive and ridiculous – we haven’t even had the convention yet! Why do they continue to ignore that inconvenient truth? They’re desperate and figure if they keep yelling at us, we’ll cave – that what the Dems in the House have done. We’re of a different ilk, though – vertebrates with real spines who can actually say, mean and follow through on “no deal.”

  45. J. Citizen – I deleted your post. You have nothing constructive to say. Buh-bye!

  46. Thanks, Delphyne! 🙂 You are right, I took it from Madama Butterfly. I hope someday to sing that role.

    Donnie Fowler and other Obama supporters refuse to admit that we have legitimate grievances and concerns. They act as though we are a bunch of spoiled children, like them.

    It’s just sad.

  47. As if the Fowler letter weren’t offensive enough, it comes from a SC delegate. Wonder how Fowler would feel if they had waived penalties in FL & MI, then shafted his state?

    BTW, the letter uses ridicule, but is definitely angry. Good.

  48. Blowing off the Travis Smiley / NAACP Convention should have been a solid confirmation that Aftrican Americans were the next to be thown under the bus along with the millions in Michigan and Florida, with the of the rest of the 18 million majority core membership of the Democratic Party that supported the much better proven candidate. Racial politics alone with his thin, legislatively lazy record will not carry Obama in the General. Ironically, over the decades, African Americans have known no greater friends in high office than the Clintons by virtue of planning, policy, and actions; not just words.

  49. josgirl…I posted your comment over at Alegre’s Corner…and one of the TPM comments was added…apparently we’re being compared to French women who slept with Germans during WWII – branded whores and tarred and feathered.

    As I noted, it’s amazing that at the age of 62, I’m even considered as a possible whore…my husband will probably be delighted (and surprised)

  50. I’m being compared to a French whore? Jeez, where is my husband; he’s going to love this!

    And, hey, Marshall-whom-I-formerly-read-daily: We’ve been called a hell of a lot worse this primary, so the insults really don’t phase me anymore.

  51. typo: er, faze me anymore.

  52. Shainzona – They don’t realize we don’t care about “just words.” Obama and the DNC will have to, you know, DO SOMETHING in order to earn our votes.

    Giving Hillary a fighting chance at the Convention would be a really great start.

    Of course, they can win without us, so I don’t know why they’re so concerned about our petty little revolt. Tra-la!

  53. The truth is Obama plays both sides of the race card whenever he feels it will work best for him. In all my life, I have never seen a bigger racist.

    So, for that “post-racial” candidate – I don’t think that word means what you think it means.

    I felt sad for the AA soldiers today that were so proud as they clapped and smiled so big for Obama when he entered the room in Kuwait. I felt how I would feel when they find out who he really is – the same as if they had slipped Nancy in on us as the first female candidate – Disappointed, Disgusted, and Diminished in Pride.

    SD’s wake up and save this country!

    President Hillary Rodham Clinton 2008

  54. Good lord, I haven’t read much on TPM in ages, when did the majority of the commentators turn so vicious & respond to dissent with perosnal insults?? The level of discussion over there is just as low as the Cheeto site.

    I must confess a bit of fatigue and irritation with people who continue to carp, complain, and criticize the results of the primary and lay down conditions for their support.

    Dear Don Fowler -> Nobody cares if you are fatigued and irritated. It’s utterly irrelevant. People probably only care that you’re laying claim to greater maturity insofar as they don’t appreciate being insulted. We are free to ignore sternly worded letters, and we will. Isn’t democracy grand?

  55. The truth is Obama plays both sides of the race card whenever he feels it will work best for him. In all my life, I have never seen a bigger r*cist.

    So, for that “post-racial” candidate – I don’t think that word means what you think it means.

    I felt sad for the AA soldiers today that were so proud as they clapped and smiled so big for Obama when he entered the room in Kuwait. I felt how I would feel when they find out who he really is – the same as if they had slipped Nancy in on us as the first female candidate – Disappointed, Disgusted, and Diminished in Pride.

    SD’s wake up and save this country!

    President Hillary Rodham Clinton 2008

  56. I got Don Fowler’s “nice” letter too…He sent it to everyone who emailed him I guess (someone at the HRC forum got it too…we discussed it there a few days ago or so)…whatever…

  57. I think it’s much more dangerous if he won than if he lost the GE. I don’t see how he is remotely qualified to be president. And we’re in a world of hurt right now as a nation and a global leader. Right when we need herculean levels of competence we get this guy.

  58. How about a sternly worded email back?
    Here’s a start:
    To Whom It May Concern:
    Get over this!
    How about you stop trying to force your lousy candidates down people’s throats, huh?
    Then maybe you wouldn’t have to write nasty notes to people who would rather not ever hear from you.
    What part of Party Unity My Ass don’t you understand?
    Fatigue and irritation?
    Have a cup of hot chocolate and take a nap.
    When you wake up, we’ll still be p*ssed off and you’ll still be clueless.

  59. For all the money and hype, Barky is not so far ahead in the polls. Pelosi’s popularity is less than the President’s and she’s being called irresponsible and told to step down! So much for the Democratic Party this year!

  60. Barack Obama refused to attend the State of the Black Union conference the past two years because it was politically expedient to do so. The first year, he announced his candidacy for President; the second year, he was too busy campaigning. He couldn’t allow himself to be associated with the black community–politically it would have been dangerous. But, what then for his Presidency, when it will then become all about his re-election? Do black voters want a president? Or do black voters want a “black president”? Once in the oval office, will black voters rue his nomination, because he will reflect badly on them? Or will they rue his nomination and election because he tosses them too under the bus?

  61. wow this lovely comments at TPM are almost sound like a parody xD…example:

    It is time for Democrats to support the nominee of the party.

    It is time for PUMAs to SIT DOWN and SHUT UP.

    But they can take out their checkbooks and make a contribution to Obama first.

    Our Democratic Party is a big tent, where many types work together on our common interest. It is time for the Hillary Idiots to decide: Are they Democrats or not? If they are not, get the fuck out of here, traitors. If they are, support Obama.

    No conditions.

    Posted by dataguy
    July 19, 2008 12:56 PM | Reply | Permalink

  62. Insightful post. This election has shown the dangers of expecting too little rather than too much. Blind allegiance to a supposed savior has guaranteed disappointment. But Obama’s adulation, as you say, is unearned.

    As he runs around the world trying to learn foreign policy, HIllary sits quietly on her committees back home, doing the hard work of mastery.

    Did Obama really have to be trailed around the world by the U.S. media sycophants who completely illustrate the lack of due diligence applied to our election? I don’t know who is really more embarrassing – amateur pretenders to the Presidency, or slavish “reporters” desperate for face time with the Anointed One.

  63. sorry…I tried a quote and it didn’t work…I try again..

    It is time for Democrats to support the nominee of the party.

    It is time for PUMAs to SIT DOWN and SHUT UP.

    But they can take out their checkbooks and make a contribution to Obama first.

    Our Democratic Party is a big tent, where many types work together on our common interest. It is time for the Hillary Idiots to decide: Are they Democrats or not? If they are not, get the fuck out of here, traitors. If they are, support Obama.

    No conditions.

    Posted by dataguy
    July 19, 2008 12:56 PM | Reply | Permalink

  64. bmc – I was floored when I saw that Obama refused to attend the State of the Black Union, and that he was not present at the MLK event along with HRC. He gave an interview from Indiana that night.

    It was a huge red flag to me.

  65. Hi all . .. did you see this ? ? ..

    Hillary Will Be on the Ballot at the Convention (PUMA Video)

    http://guerillawomentn.blogspot.com/2008/07/howard-dean-hillary-will-be-on-ballot.html

  66. Briana –

    We cannot trust Howard Dean and the promises of the DNC. That letter written by Don Fowler shows that they have no intentions of playing fair and allowing Hillary to have a fair shot at the nomination.

    Hillary or McCain – it’s their choice.

  67. Just last week Donna Brazile was on a talk show saying she didn’t think it was going to happen that Hillary’s name would be on the ballot. I’ll believe it when I see it.

  68. This is from Alegre’s corner:

    Women over 65 are supporing McCain by 42% to Obama’s 35%, a Pew Research poll finds. Compared to past contests, this is a drop for the Democratic nominee. In June 2000, Gore enjoyed a 53%-to-36% lead among women over 65, while in June 2004, Kerry held a more modest 48%-to-43% lead.
    A full quarter of the women over 65% remain undecided or pledge to vote for a third-party candidate.

  69. Hi madamab .. thanks for your great beautiful and informative post today ..

    I will still enjoy hearing the audio of hd stating That Hillary will be on the ballot ..from chris bowers at open left ..
    http://www.openleft.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=7006

    I have no illusions – I do appreciate all data that can be accumulated to play back to the dnc or whoever – to defeat them .

  70. Thanks Briana – I agree! It’s a great tactic to use their own words against them. Sorry if I came off as critical – I didn’t mean to. 🙂

  71. Comment made at Openleft (Briana’s link):

    There is no “ballot” at a national convention – rather names are placed in nomination and delegates vote as they choose.
    In order for a name to be placed in nomination, a candidate must submit nominating petitions signed by at least 300 convention delegates AND a signed statement from the candidate consenting to have their name placed in nomination.

    Delegates cast their vote by registering it with the state delegation chair (these days done with an electronic vote on the convention floor). Delegates can vote for whoever they want – a candidate who has been placed in nomination, their mother-in-law, and anything in between.

    Senator Clinton will only have her name placed in nomination in Denver if she wants to. This is her decision, not the decision of some marginal group of bitter supporters who are ignoring Clinton’s clear statement of support for Obama as the party nominee.

  72. Jmac – Guess they haven’t noticed at OpenLeft that Hillary hasn’t conceded or released her delegates.

    But then, they are rather factually-challenged over there.

  73. MadamaB – oh Great Conflucian Madama of Creativity, I want to know if you have a contact email. I want to give you a preview of something I’m writing which I’ll eventually share with the community here.

  74. Madamab .. no way critical . Just like a lot of us around here … perhaps the word is cynical ..? or these that show up in the Thesaurus ..

    disenchanted, disillusioned, doubtful, ironic, sarcastic, sardonic, scornful, snarling, suspicious, wry…

    I love the ‘snarling’ one .. lol

    then, .. the definitions .. 🙂

    1. like or characteristic of a cynic; distrusting or disparaging the motives of others.

    2. showing contempt for accepted standards of honesty or morality by one’s actions, esp. by actions that exploit the scruples of others.

    3. bitterly or sneeringly distrustful, contemptuous, or pessimistic.

    hey … I can relate .

  75. Jmac, then somebody’s lying.
    Maybe that’s why HRC has not released her delegates and has a group of lawyers in negotiations with BHO.

  76. sm77 – madamab at gmail dot com

    [blush]

    Coming from you, what a great compliment. 🙂

  77. josgirl at 3:32. — that letter is from two of the turncoats on the RBC who did some sneaky dealings behind closed doors. Fowler was set to side with Hillary but something made him change his mind during “lunch”. He’s the very cause of all this and he has the nerve to send that letter? Fuck them!!!

  78. Madamab – I found your email on you Ooooh, nuance profile – is it ok if I send it?

  79. Madamab – look out for it soon!

  80. Yup! Go for it SM!

  81. Barack Obama cannot ask those questions because he simply doesn’t care. He never has and he never will. It must have happened at the 2003 convention that he discovered how great an orator he is/was, and yet, it was in the first fifteen seconds of his speech that I was turned off. All I could think was that he was just another politician speaking words that meant nothing, and yet I never would have thought that his skill would take him this far. For me, a Black/African American woman, this is a nightmare come true. I am not against Obama as an African American man. I have no question as to whether he’s black enough and never have. What I question is what I would about any candidate, things such as his political record, his background, his integrity. Already he’s gotten it wrong on FISA. He’s basically getting it wrong on women’s reproductive rights. NAFTA. What happened to Maytag should also be brought into question, very much so. Not only is his voting record highly suspect, so is his experience, along with several other aspects of his political career. I have not delved that deeply into his doings and machinations, but enough to know that a man who would disenfranchise Black voters and a fellow Black politician, stating that he didn’t want to but did it anyway is not someone worthy of my vote. This is one of the most disturbing things about this man, I find. It’s bad enough that we know an attempt is going to be made to disenfranchise us, but when one of our own does so for his own ends, that is someone I could never vote for. Sadly, I now have no political home whatsoever with no Hillary to vote for. I now consider myself an independent, and while John McCain is offering himself up to Black voters, I will not be one of them. I don’t hold with republican values as the old folks used to say, besides the fact that I consider them racists. I am not saying not to vote for the man as I would never do that, just that as a Black American I could never do so. I miss my party and what I once thought it stood for, but those who own it now have told me that I am not wanted if I cannot support the chosen one. As a Hillary supporter all I ever wanted was a fair and well run primary. I expected Howard Dean to preside over this race to the end, and to remind people that the race needed to run to it’s end, no matter who the winner. I never expected them to chose the winner for us. I believe that Hillary Clinton has the experience that is needed to lead this country back in the right direction, and that with her presidency change simply would have come. With Obama that change is never going to come. His presidency will be more of the same, in fact bush lite. What worries me most is the outcome for race relations, no matter what happens, win or lose. Obama’s candidacy has meant that America is clearly ready for the great things that an African American can bring to the highest office in the land. But what will a failed race mean? A failed presidency? How will whites, the majority, view us then? Believe me, it will be different. And while Obama is being rammed up or down our orifices(lol), how will the other side feel if a change is managed and Hillary becomes the nominee, something not out of the realm of things? I have not decided what to do about my vote, but there is still time to go before then. Obama has a wonderful penchant for self destruction, which I love because he can’t pin it on Hillary! If anything, in the end I think that characteristic will be his downfall, though I am still hoping that he doesn’t become preznit.

  82. Madamab,

    You are sooo good at articulating what so many of us feel and believe both in your plays and posts such as this. I felt like I was right there with you as I read your experience. It truly is sad that the AA community has hitched its wagon to this “star.” He is not worthy.

    Keep up the great work!

  83. MadamaB, I sent it & THANK YOU!

  84. garychapelhill, Alice Germond idsSecretary of the DNC.
    She calls the roll at the convention, I think.
    I suppose we could e-mail her there, but frankly even going to the DNC website gives me the heebie-jeebies nowadays.

  85. What has he done on behalf of the black community? Nothing. Why do they continue to support him? Because he is black. That’s it. Identity politics pure and simple.

  86. Thank you for your heartfelt and insightful post. My best friend who is AA and lives in Atlanta, told me at the beginning of the primaries that she did not want Obama to become the nominee of for the Dems. or the Pres., because there is just too much to do to turn our country around. She didn’t think any one person could do it, and that the next president will probably not get everything done that we would like them to (unless, of course, it was Hillary—smile). She said that was going to reflect poorly on the AA community and would set race relations back years. Also, by extension, if Obama, as the Dem. nominee, does win and fails at everything, the Dems. are set back for another couple of generations!!!

    Your feelings have not been alone on this one—-Tavis Smiley had mentioned on Bill Maher’s show (which I have stopped watching, but when I saw Tavis was going to be on quite a few programs ago, I tuned in) that he has become so cynical now about the political process. He did not mention (on that show) that he was threatened and had so much hate mail sent to him because of his support for Hillary, but he was implying that and my heart bled for him. The look on his face was very disheartening. I’ve always admired Tavis and have loved his show on PBS.

    Once again, thanks so much for sharing your experiences and your clear insights!

  87. My problem with Obama is NOT because he’s “black,” but because he’s too “green.”

  88. delurking to type my appreciation of your posting….Also, I went to visit your website. You have a beautiful voice…reminded me of my daughters back in the good old days when she sang. Yet yours is stronger, more focused….beautiful. Thank you. And please do update you site. I’ve listened to all the clips and am ready for more.

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