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Friday Morning News from a Hoosier Perspective

Photo taken near Muncie, IN

Photo taken near Muncie, IN

Good Friday Morning!! Riverdaughter goes to Hawaii for her vacay, but here I am, “back home again in Indiana.” Except for occasional trees dotting the landscape, you can see the whole horizon. It’s not quite as flat and treeless as my birthplace, North Dakota; but it’s close. It’s where I grew up. There’s not a lot happening here, and I like it that way. Unfortunately, I have to devote some of my vacation time to getting organized for the fall semester. Nevertheless, I’m enjoying looking at head-high corn, eating big juicy Indiana tomatoes and marvelous Indiana cantaloupes (muskmelons), and spending some quality time with my family.

So what’s happening out there in the citified world?

The health care reform battle is still dominating the news.

Really though, this debate has become pretty ridiculous. It’s a serious, life and death issue to us real people, but to the elites in Washington, DC, it’s just another opportunity to line their own pockets while ensuring that health insurance execs and lobbyists continue to lived their lives in the lap of luxury. These people don’t give a damn about the millions of Americans suffering and dying because they have either no health insurance or incredibly expensive health insurance that doesn’t cover their urgent needs, or people who can’t pay for the incredibly expensive meds their doctors have prescribed.

Here’s a great article on the health care debate from The Onion:

WASHINGTON—After months of committee meetings and hundreds of hours of heated debate, the United States Congress remained deadlocked this week over the best possible way to deny Americans health care.

“Both parties understand that the current system is broken,” House Speaker Nancy Pelosi told reporters Monday. “But what we can’t seem to agree upon is how to best keep it broken, while still ensuring that no elected official takes any political risk whatsoever. It’s a very complicated issue.”

“Ultimately, though, it’s our responsibility as lawmakers to put these differences aside and focus on refusing Americans the health care they deserve,” Pelosi added.

The legislative stalemate largely stems from competing ideologies deeply rooted along party lines. Democrats want to create a government-run system for not providing health care, while Republicans say coverage is best denied by allowing private insurers to make it unaffordable for as many citizens as possible.

“We have over 40 million people without insurance in this country today, and that is unacceptable,” Sen. Orrin Hatch (R-UT) said. “If we would just quit squabbling so much, we could get that number up to 50 or even 100 million. Why, there’s no reason we can’t work together to deny health care to everyone but the richest 1 percent of the population.”

“That’s what America is all about,” he added.

And so on… Sadly, that story is a little too close to reality to elicit any more than nervous laughter from me.

In the wake of polls showing the American people are really really angry that President Obama and the Senate aren’t going to allow us to have the choice of a Medicare-like government health care plan, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi says she can’t pass a health care bill if a public option isn’t included.

“There’s no way I can pass a bill in the House of Representatives without a public option,” Pelosi, a California Democrat, said at a press conference in San Francisco today.

Obama reads the polls too, and he’s now back to saying he wants a public option after all. This guy is a master flip flopper. He makes John Kerry look like Mr. Consistency.

“If we have a public option in there it will help keep insurance companies honest,” he told a group of community volunteers in Washington.

Yeah, right. Even Obama can’t really think anyone believes he really wants a public option at this point–or that he cares about keeping big corporations honest. But he noticed that a lot of us regular people do want a public option–actually we’d rather just have single-payer, thank you very much.

Obama’s poll ratings are tanking over this issue. The Washington Post reports that “faith in Obama is dropping rapidly.

Among all Americans, 49 percent now express confidence that Obama will make the right decisions for the country, down from 60 percent at the 100-day mark in his presidency. Forty-nine percent now say they think he will be able to spearhead significant improvements in the system, down nearly 20 percentage points from before he took office.

As challenges to Obama’s initiatives have mounted over the summer, pessimism in the nation’s direction has risen: Fifty-five percent see things as pretty seriously on the wrong track, up from 48 percent in April.

Anger is rising at the formerly Obama worshipping lefty blogs. Writers at Firedoglake have been particularly outspoken, e.g.,

Scarecrow excoriates Obama for his patronizing references to the 70+ percent of us who favor a public option as “left of the left.” Know Your Enemy and It Ain’t the SEIU

Jane Hamsher warns: If Progressive Members of the House Think We’ll Accept Co-Ops as Public Plan, Think Again.

At Salon, Mike Madden tells liberals Obama’s just not that into you

Arianna Huffington told Charlie Rose that Obama is no FDR

Here’s Matt Taibbi’s take on the health care battle: Health Care Rats Come Out Of The Woodwork

At Salon, the always sensible Gene Lyons has a reminder for liberals that populism is the way to go You won’t win the healthcare debate by calling people stupid racists

Finally, Paul Krugman may be almost back to his old shrill self. It looks like whatever mind control techniques Obama used on him at that WH dinner awhile back are wearing off.

Other News

The rich are losing ground. Could this story explain our politicians’ deep concern for the extremely wealthy? The New York Times says the rich are no longer getting richer! They have been getting poorer since 2007. No wonder they are so in need of government handouts.

Last year, the number of Americans with a net worth of at least $30 million dropped 24 percent, according to CapGemini and Merrill Lynch Wealth Management. Monthly income from stock dividends, which is concentrated among the affluent, has fallen more than 20 percent since last summer, the biggest such decline since the government began keeping records in 1959

Awwww…gee, that’s so tragic. But don’t worry, the income disparity between the superrich and the rest of us will still continue.

Few economists expect the country to return to the relatively flat income distribution of the 1950s and 1960s. Indeed, they say that inequality is likely to remain significantly greater than it was for most of the 20th century. The Obama administration has not proposed completely rewriting the rules for Wall Street or raising the top income-tax rate to anywhere near 70 percent, its level as recently as 1980. Market forces that have increased inequality, like globalization, are also not going away.

But economists say that the rich will probably not recover their losses immediately, as they did in the wake of the dot-com crash earlier this decade. That quick recovery came courtesy of a new bubble in stocks, which in 2007 were more expensive by some measures than they had been at any other point save the bull markets of the 1920s or 1990s. This time, analysts say, Wall Street seems unlikely to return soon to the extreme levels of borrowing that made such a bubble possible.

This is really rich. Rep. Michelle Bachmann (R-Minnesota) is worried about the government interfering with her control over her own body. The last I heard, she opposed choice on abortion as well as stem cell research.

Some reality TV star is the object of a manhunt for the murder of his model girlfriend. The suspect, Ryan Jenkins, is Canadian and may have sneaked across the border to escape police.

‘Clunkers’ to Close Aug. 24 After Fueling Sales, Dealer Anger

Karzai, Abdullah Campaigns Each Claim Victory in Afghanistan

WHO Warns of ‘Second or Third’ Wave of Swine Flu Cases, AFP Says

Offbeat News

Glowing Bomber Worms Discovered

Battle of the Nostrils Our two nostrils compete for attention from our brains.

A new survey shows that single women find married men more attractive than single men. One such “scarlet woman” explains why she did it.

Octomom doesn’t deliver Another reality TV show failure.

Are you a boy or are you a girl?

Have a terrific Friday!

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  1. What does he mean by “wee weed up” ?

    That DC is pissing on the American electorate? What’s so new about that?

    No wonder he is whaaa-whaaaing:

    Released: August 20, 2009

    Developing—Obama hits record low in Zogby Interactive—45% approve…

    Story developing, check back for a full release tomorrow.

  2. Oh, yeah, that Onion article is another classic….
    And in the same vein of stating the obvious here’s Obama discovering that the opposition oppose

    No s@#$, Sherlock! Obama: “GOP plays politics????”

    • The Onion is actually becoming a real news source! As good as any and better than most! lol!

  3. How to create chaos and failure? Sit on the sidelines and allow 535 people with opposing views and lobbyists in their pockets to resolve a MAJOR issue.

  4. Hey BB. I’m still here on the NW side of Indie. Just sent an e-mail to a friend about how f—–ng creeped out I am that, last week, I saw a high brick fence being built around the luxury condos where lots of old people here in Crown Point live, and then yesterday around the old folks home/community village down a high chain-link fence w/ barbed wire on top. Are they protecting them or containing them? Either way it’s pretty scary, and I am now actually glad that I have come out here to help my aging parent get a secure life again.

    But the corn and fat tomatoes make lovely salads…

    • Hi Karolina! It’s great to see you here again. You have to admit, there is just nothing like an Indiana tomato!

    • I don’t know how the word “down” got into my note there. Those chain link fences were going up, not being removed.

  5. Maybe the spending on my credit card wasn’t all the Spousal Unit and MABlue Princess:

    Accused credit card hacker lived large in Miami

    Authorities link man to 170 million accounts in past decade

    Wow!

  6. Arianna Huffington told Charlie Rose that Obama is no FDR

    And, Arianna is no Cronkite

    • I don’t care about ANYTHING Arianna Huffington has to say about ANYTHING.

    • Arianna is awful, but at least with her upbringing she knows what European Health Care is like.

    • I agree with Arianna but we all knew he wasn’t FDR a year ago when she had her head up Obama’s ass. I can’t take what Arianna says seriously because she’s not a real journalist. She’s just a gold digger, opportunist, and former Republican who was in the right place at the right time when she created the Huffington Post.

      • I have always believed that she created Huff – well in a Huff over the fact that she was not considered to be the “ultimate whatever” by the powers that be at the time (well any time). In her last flip she set her sights on Bush and gang to “get back” for some imagined slight. She would have supported anyone who could help her bash those for who she had such hatred and in her mind take away their power. Now she will just find a new target as she finds out that she is still not considered all that she thinks by O and company.

  7. “Both parties understand that the current system is broken,” House Speaker Nancy Pelosi told reporters Monday. “But what we can’t seem to agree upon is how to best keep it broken, while still ensuring that no elected official takes any political risk whatsoever. It’s a very complicated issue.”

    I thought the Onion only did satire?

  8. This certainly looks interesting. James Cameron’s new mega-film “Avatar” set for release in December. It certainly looks like a whole lot of CGI.

    He’s touting it as the next “Titanic.” I hardly think so.

    http://avatar.substance001.info/

    • Well, to you nothing could top Titanic, right?

    • Titanic-one of the best movies I have ever seen!
      Titanic was fantastic. I watched it in the front row of a theater full of teenage girls who knew every line by heart! (and cried/sighed in the right places) Sat thru it TWICE.

    • Anyone who has children of a certain age (8-10) KNOWS and LOVES Avatar. It was a great series and we miss it terribly!!

      The movie looks AWESOME!!!!

    • He probably means in terms of ticket sales? It’s in 3-D. I would think it would be very popular just for the novelty factor.

  9. March for the Public Option – Sept. 13
    http://www.marchforhealthcare.com/

  10. I’m not usually a big David Ignatius fan but I think this column/post/whatever on the health care debate is great. Sorry, didn’t mean to sound like Tony the Tiger. 🙂

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2009/08/20/call_for_a_doctor_mr_president_97956.html

  11. BTW…Top ‘o’ the Morning to ya BB!!

  12. Shazaam! My idol Terry McAuliffe throws down the gauntlett on the Public Option.

    Yep…he’d be on my fantasy Gov’t team

    http://notlarrysabato.typepad.com/doh/2009/08/terry-mcauliffe-now-is-the-time-to-insist-on-the-public-option.html

    • Ya know I did not get the greatest impression of Terry McAuliffe during ’04 because he always seemed not very excited about Kerry… and while I wasn’t either, I did not want Bush to win! Then I saw McAuliffe light up during Hillary’s run and I thought it was funny compared to how depressed he looked during Kerry’s run.

      • How can you not fall in love with this!?

        • He was a lot of fun to watch during Hill’s run. Total 180 from how frustrated he looked with Kerry. I was frustrated too, but I wasn’t the head of the DNC. (when McAuliffe explained the behind-the-scenes of ’04 in his book, it all made sense though.)

    • Hillary probably asked him to speak up about it.

    • I can’t bring myself to take his campaign photo off my fridge. I am so sad that he didn’t get the gov nom here. Stupid VA Dems! I would have loved to have had him as my gov.

  13. bostonboomer,
    remember when you wrote: “The Kitty Genovese Case: A Fascinating Intersection of True Crime, Psychology, and Media Misinformation” ?

    I came across a local NYC story that reminded me of that story you posted. It doesn’t have the same facts, but I thought it might interest you:

    “Subway rape victim comes forward after suit tossed against MTA workers who ignored her cry for help”

    http://tinyurl.com/n7u9kq

    (In this case, the two NY men did ignore the crime they witnessed. They pushed the MTA button but never tried to stop the crime, yell anything, or even call the police.)

    • Hi SOD!
      I’ve only lived through two administrations prior to this one, and I was too young to remember the specifics, but if he’s only eight months into his presidency and his approval ratings are that low, isn’t that pretty terrible? Especially considering his press?

      • And Hi LittleIsis! Missed ya!

      • Bill’s was fairly low in his first term on average because if you remember, he was not elected by a majority — Perot was the third candidate. The Dems gave him fits and so did the republicans. however, by his 2nd term, where he was elected by a large majority, people were realizing his potential and his approval ratings soared, averaging in the 60s and ending around 65-68%, the highest in history.

        http://www.gallup.com/poll/116677/presidential-approval-ratings-gallup-historical-statistics-trends.aspx

        • Bill approval ratings early on were also low because the press hounded him from day one…okay, day 2 .
          Obama has had nothing but hosannas and ass kissing from the lap dogs for years now and this is the best he can do in ratings?

          • Remember when Obama partisans used to dismiss complaints about Obama’s media lapdogs, because to their minds the fact that the media loved Obama was a good thing? But, it’s not, because the media will eventually sour on someone or even if they don’t sour they can only provide a booster seat, at some point the booster seat was not going to be enough to overcome the gap between the messianic image and the human behind that image.

            I want a candidate/president who can run against the media and come out stronger for it.

          • …. because to their minds the fact that the media loved Obama was a good thing?

            Indeed and I never understood that because to me the media loving him so much meant he was wrong for the nation. They loved Bush and sold the war too! Media wants = bad ….And as you say, that media booster seat gets snatched away and where are you then?

        • Bill started low, then gradually crept up. Obama started very high, and is tanking. It’s the trajectory, not the percentage.

          • Bill and Hill survived and even thrived in spite of an extremely hostile DC / media atmosphere because they worked 24/7…they out worked the bastards…she still does. If you go their path, you must work non stop and I think that’s what Hill told that Gillibrand, when she took Hill’s seat . That’s the key. Out work the sob’s

          • It’s the trajectory, not the percentage.

            Indeed as the old Cole Porter song goes

            “it was too hot, not to cool down”

            trajectory, is the tough part to over come

          • It’s like dog poop. Hot for about 5 minutes, then all that’s left is the stink.

          • Obama’s trajectory is like Carter’s so far, only lower.

        • and Bill hit an approval rating above 70% in his second term without some manufactured crisis like Bush and Obama. His was all performance.

          Gawd I miss the Big Dawg!

      • Hi Littleisis! How is your grandma?

    • Yeah, I posted the link to this zogby announcement upthread…

      I don’t trust Zogby much, but it fits in with the overall trending downward.

    • ” wee wee’d up?” Is that the opposite of trickle down?

  14. Speaking of Indiana tomatoes, this from a H is 44 poster cracked me up:

    The funniest story this year is Michelle Obama photographed planting her garden and then four weeks later photographed harvesting full grown vegetables that some WH staffer had stuck in the ground. It’s all about the photo op.

    That made me laugh out loud. If any other first lady had done that, she’d have been mercilessly mocked in the press. A small thing, I know, but very telling as to where the priorities lie – with IMAGE, not reality.

  15. Boston Boomer, have you ever been to Turkey Run State Park?
    It’s a ways from Muncie, in West-Central Indiana. The sandstone gorges are beautiful and you can hike right up the creek bed. If you ever go I recommend trail 3 because you even hike up a small waterfall. Here is a site about the park.
    http://www.turkeyrunstatepark.com/

    • I remember camping there as a kid. We went to all the national and state parks in Indiana and some in Ohio.

      Are you from Indiana?

      • I’ve lived in Indiana the for last 10 years. The state parks are one of my favorite things in Indiana. We live less than an hour from 6 different parks.

  16. Great photo, BB!

    • I wish I could say I took it, but I found it on the ‘net. But it looks like this part of Indiana to me. This is what North Dakota looks like.

      See–even fewer trees and really really flat. I love it for some reason.

      • I’m from Montana where I lived in the mountains and on the plains. Loved both.

        • Montana is breathtaking. We’ve been to Big Sky twice.

        • I like seeing the whole horizon. I love New England, but I’ve always felt a little bit claustrophobic there.

          • So pleased to see you got a job BB 🙂

          • Nothing beats the sight of the hills and ridges on fire with the leaves of Autumn here in PA. The vegetables at the Amish roadside stands are as good as anywhere, the corn just as sweet. One of the best jobs I had though it didn’t pay squat was working at a corn cannery and the chance to eat Silver Queen fresh off the steaming conveyor.

          • MrMike, on August 21st, 2009 at 10:55 am

            What Mr.Mike said.

            ……the chance to eat Silver Queen fresh off the steaming conveyor…

            okay, now I’m jealous

    • ditto is it ok if i have it for my desktop PLEASE..

  17. It’s corn season here, too, BB. Best corn in the country, and we had an excellent growing season this year despite the recent drought. A fresh tomato, corn on the cob, and whatever chicken, chop or steak you want to throw on the grill is one of the great joys of summer.

  18. Hi Puma Pals

    Afrocity finally Speaks

    For the first time I go on camera and discuss my background and political views and the attacks on conservatism.

    http://afrocityblog.wordpress.com/

    • A great pleasure to see your videos, afrocity. What a beautiful, articulate woman you are. I didn’t realize you had grown up on the west side with a welfare mom. Perhaps only those of us from Chicago can appreciate what a hell-hole of despair has to exist in that area. Your achievements are nothing short of remarkable. There was so much working against you. I know.

      Interestingly, I would say that I am exactly where you are politically. Yes, the Dems dangled the carrot–and continue to do so–in front of women and blacks that they are our only hope. I think that was probably true 40 years ago, but today I see only a few exceptional Dem politicians who are likely to help us. I’ve mentioned more than once, for example, that when Hillary was a U.S. Senator, hers was the only website in the entire Senate to have a Women’s Issues section. That told me a lot.

      Here’s the thing, though. You consider yourself a Republican now, perhaps because our system leaves most of us no choice, although, from your videos, you strike me more as a Libertarian. I no longer consider myself a member of any party, so I am truly an Independent. Like you, I look at the individual now, not the party that person represents, because I know that with our restrictive political system, an individual has to run as either D or R in order to even get on the ballot.

      Here’s something to think about: My next door neighbor and his wife both used to be aides to Republican U.S. Senators–oh, many, many years ago. Today, neither of them consider themselves R’s. They don’t even recognize what they thought was their party. The same is true for many of us who used to be D’s. So you’re not alone in feeling, perhaps, politically adrift.

      • I’ve mentioned more than once, for example, that when Hillary was a U.S. Senator, hers was the only website in the entire Senate to have a Women’s Issues section. That told me a lot.

        That is amazing….

  19. Fresh tomato, corn on the cob …. and don’t forget the fresh basil. LORD, that’s good eating . Back in the day when I grew ’em, we lived off the tomatoes for the last two weeks of Aug. You understand why it’s considered a fruit…it’s like wine!

  20. Remember how Hillary Clinton angered Ted Kennedy and the black community with her true statement that it took LBJ to bring MLK’s dream to fruition?
    Apparently Obama is no LBJ either.

    • Forgot to add:
      Instead of twisting arms in behind the scene deals to get things done, Obama would rather preen in front of his infomercial audience.

      • Even if he was trying,( lol!) you can’t please the insurance companies AND have even a poor bill, you get t the mess they have. Because the compaines greed has gotten to the bailout level . They don’t want a sweetheart deal bill…they want everything without giving an inch.

  21. “Fresh tomato, corn on the cob …. and don’t forget the fresh basil.”

    Oh my paper doll, so right. This year I did my first vegetable garden and I can’t believe I never did it before. Every night I feast on fresh-out-of-the-ground lettuce, tomatoes, basil, leeks, rosemary, and oregano. It’s amazing!!! (Next year I want to add fruits…I have this insane idea that I can grow a lemon tree in Maryland!)

    This morning I watched a gardening show where they talked about re-seeding your vegetable garden in late summer so that you can enjoy your fresh veggies well into the fall. They said it works great for all leafy vegs plus root vegetables, and in milder climates even tomatoes…I am going to try this, definitely. (The trick is to keep the seeds cool until planting, plant in your nicely fertilized soil, and keep watered of course, and time it so they start sprouting before the first hard frost.)

    • lol! I tell people, be careful : Once you eat from the garden , you’re hooked ! Definitely lettuce, can be re-seeding and enjoyed because it likes the cold. Go for it! Checking out the garden blog now!

      • one of the best things is life is picking a ripe tomato, running it under the hose put salt on it and eat it.

        WOMEN WITH INTELLIGENCE AND EXPERIENCE,MEN WHO SUPPORT THEM AND COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY ALWAYS

        PUMAS,BUBBAS,EQUALISTS AND THOSE PEOPLE RULE

  22. Here’s one of my favorite gardening blogs:

    http://www.potsoffruit.com/

  23. http://pajamasmedia.com/instapundit/83796/

    Does anyone believe the Eric Holder will do anything about this?

    Thank God my newcred site is back. It has been down for a couple of days.

    Living in California , I miss the Jersey tomatoes and corn .
    For a farming state California produce is not that great..

    WOMEN WITH INTELLIGENCE AND EXPERIENCE,MEN WHO SUPPORT THEM AND COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY ALWAYS

    PUMAS,BUBBAS,EQUALISTS, AND THOSE PEOPLE RULE

  24. http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/sns-ap-us-shopping-cart-abandonment,0,898452.story?track=rss

    A sign of the times?
    In one way it is a good thing that people are thinking before buying. In another it is not a good sign for the economy.

    WOMEN WITH INTELLIGENCE AND EXPERIENCE,MEN WHO SUPPORT THEM AND COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY ALWAYS

    PUMAS,BUBBAS,EQUALISTS AND THOSE PEOPLE RULE

  25. OMG. I saw this on Hillbuzz and had to look. Talk about a serious kool-aid hangover. Good for sh**s and giggles if you’re a PUMA.

    http://www.iamsorryivotedforobama.com/

    These fools are actually set up a site to apologize for voting for That One. I of course just had to drop kick them in the jaw when they were down in the comments.

  26. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204884404574362971349563340.html

    OUCH !!!!!!!!!
    Well he wanted to look like Kennedy

    WOMEN WITH INTELLIGENCE AND EXPERIENCE,MEN WHO SUPPORT THEM AND COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY ALWAYS

    PUMAS,BUBBAS,EQUALISTS AND THOSE PEOPLE RULE

  27. http://newsblogs.chicagotribune.com/marksjarvis_on_money/2009/08/just-what-you-feared-the-credit-card-slashers-who-just-took-away-some-of-your-crediton-your-credit-cardsmight-have-left-yo.html

    It is an upside down world. If you are responsible with your credit cards you now lower your credit rating.

    WOMEN WITH INTELLIGENCE AND EXPERIENCE,MEN WHO SUPPORT THEM AND COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY ALWAYS

    PUMAS,BUBBAS,EQUALISTS AND THOSE PEOPLE RULE

  28. Hey thanks for the picture of Muncie…lotsa relatives are Hoosiers…so much so that the rest of us refer to the “Hoosier Mind” in something less than flattering terms.

    But the real reason to thank you is for seeing you write “muskmelons” ! OMG…I have lived out west for so long I had forgotten that is what we called them when I was growing up in Ohio.

  29. http://www.gallup.com/poll/122411/Americans-Expect-Income-Tax-Hike-Obama.aspx

    Kool aid wearing off?

    Look at the independent vote in the poll.

    WOMEN WITH INTELLIGENCE AND EXPERIENCE,MEN WHO SUPPORT THEM AND COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY ALWAYS

    PUMAS,BUBBAS,EQUALISTS AND THOSE PEOPLE RULE

  30. FYI: huffington post is just TABLOID JOURNALISM

    LoL

    • Sadly, this is not news. I check there every now and then to see just how impartial they are-Translation: How many stories do they run about That One’s failures. None, nada, zip. Just like the amount of respect I have for them.

  31. The coming-out stories of anonymous bloggers

    “My friends and family call me Ginny,” she wrote on her blog. “But you can continue to call me Your Majesty, because I’ve grown accustomed.”

    On Thursday morning, Montanez was fired from her job because of her online persona, she said.
    http://www.cnn.com/2009/TECH/08/21/outing.anonymous.bloggers/index.html

  32. If they want to pass the health care bill in two parts, and the public option isn’t in part one, then it’s a bait and switch ploy. I can just see these bastards saying it will be in part two and oops, it’s not . They are all about bait and switch

    Actually they most likely will have to drop the public option because the death care industry is writing the bill and refuses to include it . It’s not like Congress can write bills itself or anything.

  33. Maybe this has been posted already.

    The explantion couldn’t be more gross.

    http://www.politicsdaily.com/2009/08/21/robert-gibbs-defines-obama-phrase-wee-weed-up/

  34. Healthcare’s Public Option? fugghettaboutit….The House Dems are now sending out their leadership to “let us down easy.”

    Hoyer: Public option may have to go
    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0809/26335.html

    • Didn’t Pelosi just declare unequivocally that “I cannot pass a bill without a public option?” Her second in command didn’t get the message or are they playing good cop-bad cop?

  35. Is the public option in the freaking bill or not?? Seems like a simple question. I’m real tired of them pulling everything out of their ass because they are consintrating on the back room deals so much, they can’t get their stories straight .

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