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Let’s have a swinger party!


(No, this isn’t that kind of post. Get your mind out of the gutter.)

From Hugh at Corrente:

Michael Kwiatkowski’s recent post on dumping Obama appeared here and at FDL’s Seminal. In it, he took shots at Jane Hamsher and the Seminal for being openly hostile to organizing a progressive alternative to the Democrats. As someone who was long at FDL, I can say those shots are accurate. When I tried to push the formation of such organizing there a couple of years ago, I was told “Can’t do that now. It’s more important to elect Obama.” Later I got hit with the line, “Go out, organize a third party, start winning elections, and then and only then, we will think about coming on board, and helping you, errr, organize.” Yes, that is completely contradictory. If I and others were successful in organizing a progressive party, why would we need FDL later? But the intention was clear, to fob off those who wanted to organize a third party and make it clear that FDL’s resources would not used to those ends. (emphasis added)

Mandos the Troll was saying something over at Ian Welsh’s place recently about “You have no power until you can win an election” or some such horseshit. He was wrong, as usual.

Requiring a third party to win elections to be considered relevant is an unfairly high threshold. It’s also a virtually impossible task, beyond a few local races.

Here in my little piece of paradise (CA-18) the last contested general election was in 2006 and there were 108,713 votes cast. That means in order to win a candidate would need at least 54,357 votes. That’s asking a lot for a start-up party.

On the other hand, back in 2008 Al Franken was elected to the U.S. Senate by a measly margin of 225 votes. Are you starting to catch my drift?

In the whole state of Minnesota a group of only 226 people could have swung the election to Norm Coleman. Now imagine you’re a group of lefties in Minneapolis with a membership of 1000 people.

Do you think the Honorable Mr. Franken will take you for granted? Not if you don’t let him he sure won’t.

All we need is a group large enough to swing elections. A group that is vocal and adamant that they will not vote for the lesser of two evils.

A Tea Party, only with liberals.

Think about it.