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About Cisneros, a rebuttal to doom and gloom

I’m motivated to gently disagree with my friend William on Henry Cuellar winning his primary against Jessica Cisneros so I’m moving my comment up to this post.

I haven’t been following this race very carefully but from what I gather, Cisneros was promoted by Bernie Sanders, who William may have a voodoo doll with a striking resemblance to Sanders that he regularly sticks pins into.

Anyway, number one child is a Sanders fan and as a frustrated millennial who probably has voodoo dolls bearing a striking resemblance to members of older generations of Democrats that she not only sticks pins into but likely sets fire to on occasion, I feel that I have to defend the potential Cisneros fans.

Sanders isn’t completely wrong about who the party tends to support. It plays it too safe in many instances. I’m not a lefty lefty but we’ve taken in way too many conservative refugees since the Trump era began that we’re in danger of spinning our wheels. Here in PA, the party backed my congressman, Conor Lamb, who’s a little bit of a cross between a Boy Scout and a high school student body president. He kisses up to the old white dudes at the VFW and completely ignores his eastern suburbs where the voters are bluer than blue and diverse. Lamb went on a scorched earth campaign against Fetterman and lost badly. He isn’t feeling the zeitgeist.

What I think is happening here is Democrats have been told to sit and wait and keep their powder dry for a very long time. But it’s not in our nature to not push forward and try new things and try to get ahead of changes we see coming that might affect the working class and we keep getting stuck with the cautious, clean cut guys who cannot relate.
Sanders doesn’t speak for me. He’s good in some areas and not others and his f#%^ing ego probably cost Hillary the election more than putin, trump or Comey. But we definitely do need to get more in touch with our liberal roots and Four Freedoms.

We need new blood. That may make more conservative Democrats uncomfortable. But think what it has been like for moderate or liberal Democrats who look way lefter than they actually are but are actually lefter than the rightward creep of the party after Obama. People like Cuellar don’t represent us and it’s time to pass the torch to others with newer, younger, fresher ideas even if they are supported by Bernie sanders. That’s why it’s kind of a tragedy that Cisneros lost. I get it that Nancy is trying to hold on to her majority and Cuellar was the safer bet. But the fact that Cisneros came this close to beating him indicates a impatience by the younger progressives in her party to just get on with it. You never know who they’re going to pull along with them and voting for a socially conservative, cautious, plodding, slightly patriarchical male Democrat just isn’t cutting it anymore.

If you are a Gen X, Millenial or Gen Z Democrat, seemingly carrying the weight of all your responsibilities AND 401Ks AND healthcare AND student loans AND social security AND high housing costs AND climate change AND constantly fighting for your reproductive rights and freedom from religion, if you’re in that cohort and you’ve been to other countries in Europe where people have a real work-life balance and aren’t on the verge of being broken by the stress of overwhelming debt and not being able to fullfill basic needs when other countries have figured it out and the US considers you as little more than a crop in its relentless exploitative profit mining of your life and talents, then it must be maddening to see that you have to postpone much of your own hopes, desires, simple regular human expectations in the service of the people who routinely vote for people like Henry Cuellar, Joe Manchin and Conor Lamb.

They represent the weight on your shoulders and not the spring in your step.

One more thing: After the USSC posts its decision on Roe any day now stripping women of a constitutional right they have had for 50 years, Nancy may find she has a real problem on her hands in this district. What incentive is there for Democratic women, and particularly progressive women, to turn out to vote for Henry Cuellar? I’m not sure I would. The idea of voting for a anti-choice man, even if he is in my party, would make me throw up a little in my mouth. I sure as f]}# wouldn’t campaign for him. I’d be sick with so much anger I might swear off the party altogether. I think Democrats seriously underestimate the fury women are going to feel about the upcoming decision. Cuellar will have to rely on his incumbency to get him re-elected. There is zero incentive for young women to vote for Cuellar. And it would be beyond stupid to expect any Texas Republican to cross over and vote for him in the general. We know where their heads are at. So, Henry Cuellar may be the weaker candidate in the general. Who knows, maybe the GOP helped set it up this way.

If that’s the case, this may have been one of the party’s dumbest moves.

Seriously stupid.


14 Responses

  1. Agree completely, posted my comment in the last thread while you were posting this I guess, so I won’t repeat it here. My bottom line is the Leadership of the Democratic party is out of touch with the bulk of their younger (not me) and left leaning (me) voters, they need to bring in some young blood.

    I would include Sanders in there too, he needs to step aside in favor of someone younger who supports his views.

  2. Sowwies, RD, I can’t agree on this one. I don’t think enough of us antique flatulences have died off yet for your strategy to work. (I have “only” completed 59 solar orbits, so some people would say I am not an antique flatulence, but I am slowly realizing that I am one.)

    Yeah, I hope Lurch beats The Quack, and right now it looks like he probably will beat The Quack, but I suspect that the chasing-the-homeboy incident will come back to haunt Lurch (and you PA Dems) sonewhere down the road, even if Lurch wins this election.

    • Most aging is mental. Seriously. You can keep your mind young. Anyway, it’s likely that those of us who are not chronologically young are going to be working a lot longer than we planned. So, better start thinking like you’re 30.
      As for chasing the guy with the shotgun, I don’t think that’s going to work against Fetterman. It was a bad decision at the time but if you lived around here, you’d understand why it happened. From my perspective, there is no effing way that guy was recreationally jogging in the winter at dusk in Braddock and just happened to be in the same location where gunshots were heard. Fetterman had lived there for years at that point and I’m sure he knew what he was hearing. Not the same thing as shooting an actual jogger in a Georgia neighborhood just because.
      That gun incident is baked in.

  3. RD i appreciate your comment. I can understand the support of Sanders and others for Cisneros. What infuriates me is that after the results are counted, Sanders not only attacks Democratic leadership, but the says that this is why the grassroots are not enthused, and essentially says that this is why Democrats will lose in November.

    This is not what we need in such dangerous times. We need Democrats to come out and vote in record numbers, not have Sanders give them an excuse not to vote. I would just as soon have had Cisneros win, particularly as you suggest, she might have run better in the general election. Of course we each have our favorites, but practically, it is mostly a matter of counting up votes on bills in the House; and of course needing control. So i almost always would support the person who has the better chance to win the general election, because we unfortunately do not have the luxury of nibbling at the margins of what kind of Democrats are in the House.

    Sanders and AOC and some others keep supporting people who run against incumbent Democrats. That is a lot of energy and money used. i will just say that if the Republicans take over the House, it won’t matter one bit whether Cisneros or Cuellar held a seat, nor whether AOC’s backed challenger to Sean Patrick Maloney, who is heading the DCCC now, upsets him in the primary. i think that Sanders and AOC are focusing on making the House more Progressive, but this is the time that we desperately need to hold seats. Sanders validating people’s disenchantment and lack of energy to vote, gratifies him, but damages the greater goal, in my view, at least. They had a vote, his candidate lost, but he cannot stop himself from blaming it on “Democratic leadership,” and essentially saying that this is why we will lose the House. I’ve virtually never seen him be on the winning side in races, but he will not stop trying to unseat Democrats whom he disagrees with. It may not be fair, but I am wondering who would be governor of Florida had Gwen Graham beaten his favorite Gillum in the primary, he spent so much energy on that.

    • Well, we can always hope that the Trump Treason scandal will so devastate the GOP and American conservatism Fascism that what Dear Leader Bernie says,and even what consumer prices do, won’t matter.

  4. In case anyone does not get the “Lurch” reference: 🙃

  5. Just to reinforce something jmac said – we cannot continue as a party of octogenarians. One of the biggest failures of party leadership has been its lackadaisical approach to succession planning and development of new leadership. I think Pelosi’s grasp of procedure and her skill at political infighting are second to none, but how long will she be able to continue and who are we going to turn to when she’s gone? Hoyer? He’s a year older than she is. She should be grooming younger House members to take up the fight and I just don’t see that happening.

    • AMEN. We need to think about letting younger leadership take control, IF the DNC has not seen fit to ensure that younger members were being groomed, then maybe it’s the DNC that needs to go.

  6. And another thing: the Democratic Party has been in full-blown ideological retreat since Ronald Reagan beat us up and stole our lunch money back in 1980. Say what you will about Bernie, at least he sticks to his guns.

    • I had read speculation that Hakeem Jeffries was Pelosi’s pick to replae her as Speaker, if we still controlled the House, He is not my favorite in terms of forcefulness on media but he might be fine. Of course that was just speculation.

      You are likely right that the Democrats do not plan well in organizational strategy. Republicans are obsessed with it witness the Heritage Foundation and the Federalist Society planning for decades the takeover of the Supreme Court, while the Democrats mostly just react. More forward-thinking approaches are very much needed, but of course Democrats are much more fragmented than are Republican, perhaps like Athens vs. Sparta.

      • Conservative Republicans have been plotting to take over the country at least since the Powell Memorandum in 1971 (if not since the Goldwater campaign in ’64). They’ve been strategic and methodical in their actions and never wavered from their vision. They’ve systematically weakened unions, used wedge issues to divide the Left and encouraged intergenerational conflict to weaken support for Social Security by the young and abortion rights by the old, and hollowed out both voting rights and antidiscrimination legislation.

        Much as their political positions disgust me, I confess a certain grudging admiration for their tenacity and discipline.

        Not only are Democrats more fragmented than Republicans, we’re also incapable of looking more than one election cycle in to the future. We’re tactical and they’re strategic. And, as Sun Tzu put it many years ago, “tactics without strategy is the noise before defeat.”

  7. I am all for younger people taking over the reigns but they apparently have a lot to learn like Bernie is toxic and needs to stay far away and don’t slap toxic labels on yourself. You may think calling yourself a socialist is cute but to far too many voters it is a message to not vote for you.

    • My view only: I am not talking about replacing Democratic Leadership with 30 year olds, although AOC may one day be ready she is no where near ready now; what I am talking about is getting rid of the geriatrics, and replacing them with folks in their late 40’s, 50’s and early 60’s. This of course can be done, and then the Dems will be moaning about how they have no experience. I will lay this directly at the feet of Pelosi, Hoyer, Clyburn, Schumer, et al..

      • I would be fine with that. I have long said we need a changing of the guard.

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