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Hillary and Bill

I almost never watch the late night comedy/talk shows, but I heard that Jimmy Kimmel was going to have Bill Clinton and James Patterson to talk about their new book collaboration, “The President’s Daughter,” so I watched that part.

Bill was as sharp as ever. The questions were about the writing, not about politics, but there were a couple of occasions where he talked a bit about various foreign policy aspects of his Presidency. I miss him as President, he was my favorite whom I actually witnessed. And I thought about what an amazing presidency Hillary would have had, with Bill helping in various aspects.

Bill and Hillary were perhaps the most gifted and intelligent and generally compassionate political couple in American history, with Franklin and Eleanor Roosevelt of course being right there. And once again, it is impossible not to be upset at how Hillary and Bill were the unceasing targets of attacks and slanders and lies from the Republicans. And even with that, they could have surmounted all of it, except for the almost unaccountable help the Republicans were given by the major media in their dual war against the Clintons.

We remember it all too well. Why was it that the vast majority of the media were engaged in a decades long effort to attack, disparage, mock, sneer at Hillary? Misogyny is of course a major factor, but it is certainly more than that. She seemed to crystallize everything the male media hated: she is smarter than they are, she doesn’t fall to her knees and abjectly apologize to them for whatever the new topic was that they wanted her to apologize for. Some of them compared her to their mother-in-law, or their ex-wife, any woman who could make them feel inadequate or wrong.

But of course there were plenty of female media people who attacked Hillary, some perhaps with even more ferocity than the men. She was not to the manner born, though she did manage to go to Wellesley, and Yale Law School. She didn’t dress elegantly. She went farther then they did in their careers. They didn’t like that she didn’t divorce Bill, as if it were any of their business what she chose to do in her private life. She grasped policy like no one else, except Bill, while the media people had some basic knowledge of issues, but not very deep or nuanced.

And it was all a fun game, for the people who unfortunately seem to predominate in the media, particularly the broadcast media. As if the fact that they have a microphone and can get on TV and shake their heads, and mock and sneer, means that they win, they are more powerful than their targets. It was both unseemly and embarrassing, and of course immensely detrimental to the fate of the country. Imagine that they managed to get Trump, a psychopath with no intelligence, ability, or decency, elected over Hillary, and then actually seemed to be gratified by it.

Jason Johnson, who somehow has garnered a regular spot on the MSNBC cable shows, said a few months ago that “Hillary Clinton was the most loathed Presidential candidate in American history.” When someone says something as stupid and sneeringly arrogant as that, you can bet it is because he is the one who loathes her. Hillary got 66 million votes for President, and that was with Russia putting all its power behind Trump; Facebook going along with it by running millions of lies and slanders about Hillary; people like Johnson and Eddie Glaude actually saying (in Glaude’s case) that they would not vote in the election., or that Hillary was loathed.

Hillary was always hated by the Right, because they feared her, she was not someone they could roll over. The Left learned to hate her, because Sanders goaded them into it, and also because the Left always hates mainstream Democrats. So in that sense, she was loathed by the two extremes, and very popular in the reasonable middle, and she got an immense amount of votes, more than her opponents, even Obama when she ran against him. But Johnson is sure that she was the most loathed candidate in history. It is this kind of thing, gratuitous and stupid insults from hack pretend journalists, which Hillary has had to deal with for her entire political career. And if she had stayed home and baked cookies, they would have hated her for that.

So we lost out on potentially the greatest president of the last 80 years or so, because of Right wing fear and hatred of her, and a bunch of immature wannabe media types who derived their sense of importance from trying to get the people they liked and partied with, elected.

James Patterson mentioned that he and the Clintons were having dinner somewhere, and Bill and Hillary were holding hands under the table. I found that touching. They always loved each other, even despite Bill’s self-indulgence and foolishness. Much of the media could not stand that, they think that getting some TV or newspaper gig means that you are qualified to judge everyone else’s choices and morals.

I am sure that the Clintons are happy enough; they have many friends, they stay engaged with national and foreign matters. But the entire saga is a tragedy for America, for tens of millions of people who have issues and concerns, and want someone in charge who will care about them, and try to help them. Biden is that, but he does not have the immense grasp of issues and policies that Hillary and BIll have; and he also has this aspect where he believes that he can work with Republicans, that they are mostly decent people who have been led astray, rather than power hungry fascists who will take away the rights and liberties of anyone who is not exactly like them.

Bill and Hillary, while generous people, have no such illusions, and would have found ways to keep the Democratic Party in power, just as Bill set it up perfectly for Gore, only to have Donna Brazile and Gore himself blow it, by not letting Bill campaign for him. And yet we know that whomever the Republicans nominate, the media will be kinder to him or her than they ever were to Hillary. All she ever really wanted to do was to serve, to make America better. I am very glad that Bill and Hillary are still out there, still doing what they can, heads held high, in the face of the Far Right and the Far Left and the frat boys and mean girls of the media, who have not matured a day since junior high school.

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  1. While that was painful to read, William (my wounds have not healed), I am glad you wrote it. Johnson and Glaude were at the top of my list of talking asses that would make me apoplectic when it came to Hillary. And what really made my blood pressure go nuclear was that I NEVER heard anyone, either moderator or panel member, challenge/counter their baseless remarks or ask them to justify their obviously vindictive personal opinions. It was like it was etched in stone, a given that everyone knew to be true. Couldn’t anyone at least ask WHO hates her exactly and WHY? None of my friends who hate her could ever give me a well reasoned answer, just quickly changed the subject. I saw these two men on Nicolle’s show and Joy’s show (not sure I ever saw them with Rachel) numerous times. So why no pushback, not even the gentlest of queries? I believe all three women admired charismatic Obama and clearly favored him over our constrained Hillary, but why not at least give Hillary her due out of simple fairness and a modicum of fact checking?

    Each day I find more and more things about this country abhorrent, shameful and self-destructive, but for decades this CDS has rumbled through the political discourse openly and relentlessly much to the detriment of we the people as a nation. So few of the Clinton supporters ever got a chance to be heard, so few of the discussions addressed the voters who saw and were inspired by this dying breed of public servants. IDK, maybe it all makes sense in the context of the GOP long game to secure one party rule for them and their donors until democracy was truly dead and all that remains is a two class society of the haves and the have nots.

    Thank you William also for mentioning the Kimmel interview, I am going to try to find it.

    • Thank you, Cats. Sometimes I feel a bit like Coleridge’s Ancient Mariner, compelled by the forces of nature to tell his story, so that his listeners might learn something important from it. This is not my story, of course, but I just cannot accept the people who want to gloss it over, “move on,” or rationalize their own behavior by continuing in their comfortable viewpoint that Hillary was “flawed,” “not popular,” “a bad candidate.”

      People may be starting to realize that Obama was not the savior they thought he was, and that there is a need to actually fight the Republicans who indeed want to make this a one-party dictatorship. But there is something in the psyche of many of them which makes them not only dislike Hillary, but argue strenuously that they were right, and that her not being President was her fault, not theirs. So I think that we are right in not just throwing up our hands in frustration or despair, although the media has essentially controlled the discussion.

      You will enjoy the interview, if only for the fact that it is apparent that Bill’s mind and recollections are as sharp as ever. The Clintons were the biggest threat to Republican dominance, which is why they hated them so much. I don’t know what threats they were to Democratic self-appointed philosophers, but they must have been. We mentioned Johnson and Glaude, and I am glad I am not the only one who dislikes them. Every time I see them or anyone else who did not strongly support Hillary, yell or wail about the fact that Republicans control the Supreme Court, I would like to directly say to them, “Then why did you spend all your time disparaging Hillary, or is it that your ego and your perpetual outrage were more important than the America that act like you so much care about?” How foolish do you have to be to not understand that the Supreme Court, and all the issues which it decides, were completely imperiled unless Hilary won the election?

    • Bc they’re a bunch of sexist frat boy fuckwads and a bunch of dumbass stepford women who won’t speak up … the kind who’s entire goal was to pledge to their sororities at Georgetown University & get married by 30 and sit on their asses leading comfy lives as CNN talking heads… how DARE women such as Hillary want more, how dare she give us all something more to aspire to… I remember some idiot Obama supporter told Hillary to drop out and f*ck Bill… this is how these people think. Pathetic minds.

  2. Well, I still can’t post any links on William’s posts. Thanks a heap, WordPress. 😡

    Oh well, by now, anyone who cares about the Arkansas Rocks programs knows the links I’ve been posting, anyway.

    • I”m glad to know you’re all right, IBW. I had missed your weekly reminder, so I am glad it is up there. On Saturdays on radio station 88.5 (that is their name now), they have a two hour Beatles show with rarities, on Saturday morning. At least they did before the pandemic, but I think it is still there. Les Perry is the host., around 10-12 in the morning.

  3. Cheri Jacobus explained the women reporters going after women candidates one time. She said that the people who do the hiring are the misogynist bosses and they hire women who will perpetuate misogyny on other women.

    • Ga6th, that makes sense, esp for the malicious ones like Andrea Mitchell, but does it explain those who say nothing, those I consider women warriors like Nicolle and Joy? Something is keeping them from challenging the misogynistic remarks at least where Hillary is concerned….. is it job security, envy, jealousy? Even if they don’t care for the person, you would think they would point out and criticize the tactic.

      Hey, IBW, how is the diet going? Are you feeling better?

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