Some go where angels fear to tread:
Ok, from now on, everyone needs to take elementary logic and learn how to do a simple truth table.
Let’s start with the argument that mail in ballots are “unconstitutional”. Not sure you’re going to be able to pull that off. The last part of the argument is “therefore the mail in ballots are unconstitutional”. What are the premises on which this conclusion depends? You got to think this through.
Do you say, mail in ballot voting is not in the constitution? If that’s the case, votes cast by electronic voting machines are also not in the constitution.
But the postal service is in the constitution.
I mean, how deep in the weeds do you have to go? How convoluted does this need to get?
As someone pointed out today, this is how Republicans argue. Find your desired conclusion first and work your way back. You’d get an F for confirmation bias in class.
Why not just say the mail in ballots are unconstitutional because “there are no bones in ice cream”? It will make about as much sense. The underlying argument probably is something to the effect that Donald Trump was a duly elected president in 2016 (prove that without a paper trail. You can’t. But you can absolutely prove that he is NOT a duly elected president in 2020 precisely because there is a paper trail now. That’s gotta hurt.) And because he was a first term incumbent, he is therefore entitled to a second term. That’s not a constitutional guarantee. If that were the case, then he wouldn’t have to stand for re-election after 4 years. We’d just let him roll over to the next four years. This is getting closer, isn’t it?
It’s still non-sensical but if Trump has his stubby little tentacles in your brain and is terrifying you about the big mean Democrats who are going to throw you into a communist re-educationu camp and take away all your guns, then maybe “there are no bones in ice cream therefore mail in ballots are unconstitutional” is enough for you.
But getting out of the Land of Make Believe on the planet of Wishful Thinking and back into the real world, you can’t even argue that it’s the state legislature, not the state Supreme Court, that makes the rules that we vote with because in Pennsylvania, the state legislature *did* make the rule that allowed us to vote by mail in ballots. Not only that but in spite of the slow down of the postal service, in spite of the limitations on drop boxes, in spite of the prohibition against early tabulation or pre-canvassing of the mail in ballots, in spite of segregation of all late ballots postmarked in time but received after 11/3, TRUMP. STILL. LOST. PENNSYLVANIA.
Yes, we played by Republican Calvin Ball rules, jumped over hoops, beat the the racing clock.
TRUMP. STILL. LOST.
HE. LOST.
ON 1/20/21 HE WILL BE A DULY UN-RE-ELECTED EX-PRESIDENT AND NOT PINING FOR THE FJORDS.
{{insert gif of John Cleese banging befeathered Trump doll on counter}}
Not that this will sway even one single Trump nugget. This part of their brain has been high jacked by anger and rage.
It’s not a solvable problem. It takes some sophisticated tactics to get Trump nuggets to let down their guard.
But we don’t negotiate with hostage takers.
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This is really dangerous.
Do MAGA voters really want to take this so far that someone gets hurt just because Donald Trump can’t act like a man and accept that he has lost?
Because if that shit hits the fan, they will be forever dirtied with Trump. No one will ever let them get over it. It will be a divide so wide and an act so unamerican that there will be no redemption for anyone who harms a person who is tasked with counting votes in a democracy.
And none of us will be interested or receptive to any argument you have on the matter because there isn’t one that justifies it. So save your breath.
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Which is why i continue to say that there is no way to work with Republicans in office. Oh, maybe on a small matter or two, maybe even on a stimulus package, which is important. But when Clinton tried a small one when he took office, the Republicans filibustered it. Then they came within two or three votes in the House, plus one in the Senate, of voting down his entire budget, which they loudly cried would destroy the American economy. With Obama, they kept saying that they would not raise the debt ceiling, unless he gave in on all sorts of things, which he did, saying that they were holding him hostage. So Boehner got 98% of what he wanted, according to his comments.
And Republicans are likely worse now. And those are the ones in office. The citizens are even worse, they eschew school and books, so how would they understand logic? Their logic is, Trump is great, the Democrats are evil, so how could they ever win unless they cheat? Plus strange ethnic and intellectual types inhabit the party, so they can never vote for any of them. Apparently the fake who poses as Q has disappeared for now,, so many are bereft, as they depend on his dangerous fabrications for sustenance. Someone made a tape of all the Fox station people who savagely attacked any Democrat who dared to question any result in 2016 or 2018. Logic is something they do not deal in. Michael Palin’s pet shop and cheese shop owner made more sense than they do. You have it exactly right; they have a result they want,and then they make up illogical reasons for it. Imagine a series of mazes where the end is, “We win!,” and just work backwards from there. Who was the person who said, “My side, right or wrong?” Well they don’t even have to go that for, they see themselves as always right, which I guess is why Trump resonated so powerfully with them, since he does, too.
I couldn’t agree more William. The Republicans have had a plan to dumb down the American population for 40+ years. They have succeeded to such an extent, that it will be very difficult to walk it back. When they started, they obviously did not anticipate the advent of smart phones and social media, but they have taken advantage of both. The fact that both of these are unlikely to go away will make undoing their damage very difficult. One example that I saw yesterday (sorry, don’t remember where) was some talking head wondering why the ‘latest app to catch their fancy’ is spelled wrong. Why did they spell it Parler and not Parlor… well one reason would be there is already an Apple app called Parlor, but the fact that this is about talking and ‘Parlez vous’ goes right over their heads. After a 40+ year career in IT, it’s sad to see that the way I made a living for myself and family for all those years is now being used to make people more ignorant, because that is where the 1% likes to see people.
ah, somehow, the post fell into moderation, where maybe it can be heroically rescued.
BRB
Ok, refresh your screen. It’s there now.
Thanks! 🙂 “This IS a cheese shop, isn’t it?” “Best in the district,sir!”
That is incredibly scary. And those 70 million who voted for Trump, and as you put it so well, have his grubby tentacles in their brains, will still be with us, even when he goes away.