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So, if we don’t like him and we vote against him, we’re cheaters?

So saith Creamsicle:

Trump also revisited his refusal to say whether he would support a peaceful transfer of power if he loses. The president claimed that the “only way” he loses is if the Democrats cheat and said he’s not going to support a transition if there was cheating.

Trump has actively sought to delegitimize the results of the election, falsely claiming universal mail-in voting intended to protect people amid the coronavirus pandemic is ripe for corruption although there is no evidence this is true. In the five states that already allowed universal mail-in voting, Colorado, Hawaii, Oregon, Utah and Washington, there have been no issues with widespread fraud. 

“The only way we’re going to lose is if there’s mischief, and it’ll have to be on a big scale, so be careful,” Trump said. “We do want a very friendly transition, but we don’t want to be cheated and be stupid and say, ‘Oh, let’s, we’ll go and we’ll do a transition,’ and we know that there were thousands and thousands of ballots that made the difference through cheating. We’re not going to stand for it.”

He’s going to have to put millions and millions of us in prison because I’m pretty sure we intend to cheat, I mean, vote him out on Election Day. Think of the logistics.

Why can’t he lose like a man?

Dan Balz at WaPo writes:

The president’s Republican allies in Congress, however, were not necessarily the principal audience for what he said about challenging the vote, nor are they the people whose views he cares about most. Instead, his attempt to discredit mail-in ballots as a way to challenge a possible Biden victory is aimed at rallying his own army of supporters, prepping them to respond, if necessary, with protests or perhaps worse if he challenges vote tabulations — and therefore the results — in the days after the election.

It’s standard MO for Republicans. Find a policy or regulation they don’t like, find one or two instances of that policy or regulation failing or falling short of perfection, then disqualify the whole damn thing.

And the right falls for it every time. That’s why we can’t have nice things. Oh, sure, unemployment bennies are good to have but a couple people might use that time to take a much needed break and we can’t have that so no one gets bennies. Or yes it’s wonderful that we give food stamps to families with children but one or two adults we know who can work are also getting food stamps and that’s just not right. So no one gets them. Or there’s a clean water regulation that makes it easy to drink from the spigot but the snake tailed flarnjarn protection piece is getting in the way of this poor put upon developer so out goes the clean water act.

Lather, rinse, repeat.

So here we are. Mail in ballots never used to be a problem before. Washington and Oregon have been voting almost exclusively by mail for forever. Mail in makes it difficult to suppress the vote in inner city neighborhoods, makes it easier for your 82 year old aunt to vote from the comfort of her special living room chair, makes it safer for high risk people to vote in general. But there’s one sketchy report of a clerk somewhere in Luzerne county, PA who threw away absentee ballots for Trump (were they general election or primary ballots? We need all the facts.) and now, EVERYBODY in PA who is voting by mail will be accused of fraud. Actually, how does that work? We, the voters, are not throwing out ballots.

But as we saw with Hillary Clinton, if you can generate enough smoke, people will think there’s a fire.

There is no fire.

Just let us vote like we normally do without election interference from the guy who looks like he’s scared he’s going to lose.

Because he is.

This is why Gov. Wolf won’t approve school sports in PA this year.

It’s because of incidents like this. Alicia Kitts goes to watch a game on school property. She has a mask, presumably so she could get in. Then she refuses to wear it in violation of Ohio’s state rules about spectators at a school sporting event.

Let’s make it clear about what is happening in the video below. She’s not being arrested and tazed because she refused to wear a mask. She’s being arrested and tazed for not leaving when the school safety officer gave her options. In other words, she broke the rules. You know, law and order and all that.

I don’t think the right is getting it. The governor of Ohio and the state legislature could just put a moratorium on any spectators at a school sports game. Is that what they want? Because if I were governor, that’s what I’d do. If even one person can’t comply with a request to put on a mask or leave, then no one can go to a sports activity as a spectator. Students only.

This is why Governor Wolf in PA keeps vetoing the bills the GOP legislature sends him for local control of school sports games. Funny how the legislature keeps complaining about it. Why don’t they just get a veto proof majority to override him? Is it because they don’t have enough flat earthers in Harrisburg to join the happy throng of Republicans gleefully breathing on each other?

And you know, I’m going to bet that if Kitts has been drunk and disorderly, guys would be playing that clip on a loop like it was porn.

Bottom line, she’s no Rosa Parks, she set a very poor example for her kids and she’s going to ruin it for everybody in Ohio. She got arrested and tazed for struggling.

At least she wasn’t at home in bed and asleep.

Trump disgusts the Republican governor of Massachusetts.

What he said.

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New poll. Not sure how reliable this is but it looks similar to other polls I’ve seen except in magnitude. The trend is going against Trump. The race is pulling away.

I’m going to guess that every move Trump and the Republicans have made in the week since RBG died has been working against them. They are so out of step with voters in every conceivable way that it’s hard to understand what they think they’re going to gain from this. Sure, they might set back women’s rights, they may finally get rid of the ACA and leave cancer patients without any protections, they may get the court to strip working people of any abilities to make their lives better. But an awful lot of them are going to lose their seats and I’m pretty sure that it’s going to be painful.

That’s where we are. With every week, every day, every hour, almost minute to minute, the Republican power grab and obstructions to voting are enraging suburbanites, women, working people who have been sidelined by Covid, old people, young people (a lot of millennials are going to work the polls this year).

No one with any lick of sense wants to relive 2020 and it’s catastrophic response to Covid. That’s what we get with Trump. Only a fool would repeat this disaster expecting a different outcome.

So keep at it, Republicans. The more you throw at us, the more alternate plans we make to get our votes in waaaaaay ahead of time. We are going to vote so hard.

Every time a Republican enrages, a new Biden voter engages.

Remember the Wisconsin primary this year? That’s what’s going to happen.

And how did that turn out?

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Charlie Baker in that video above says that mail in balloting has been with us forever. That might be true. We’ve called it absentee balloting but the ability to vote that way has been extended to include anyone who is high risk who doesn’t want to risk exposure to Covid in the basement of the Methodist church.

But ok, some people insist on not evolving and want to be originalists. They want to go back to the way people used to vote in 1787.

Back then, many states required that white males who owned property were the only ones eligible to vote. Not only did you need to own property, your property size had to meet minimum requirements. That had the effect of excluding most white men in Connecticut.

In Pennsylvania, the property restriction was relaxed so more white men were eligible but they had to be up to date on their taxes. That’s because this good Quaker state and home of the City of Brotherly Love did not want poor people or unemployed people or lazy people to vote. Their inability or antipathy to paying taxes was thought to make them bad citizens. (That would exclude most white republican and libertarian men these days. Hmmm…) Remember, this was before we had an intentionally created African American inner city underclass.

Yep, back then, white guys who lost their jobs or just didn’t make enough money were excluded from voting. They lost their franchise.

The effect of all these laws was that something like 6% of the population was eligible to vote at the beginning. The laws favored rich, white guys with lots of land and the poorly paid white guys working in new industries and as indentured servants or apprentices were excluded.

Plus, you had to vote with a paper ballot. None of that voting machine stuff. Find a polling place, if you can prove you paid enough in taxes, and submit your paper ballot.

Then, at some point in December, your electors would saddle up their horses and travel for days and weeks to the electoral college to cast their votes for you but only the rich guys among you. It had to be done in person because we had no way of transmitting the results by electronically. No telegraphs, telephones, internet, TV, radio. Oh, I guess they could have sent the results by mail since we deliberately added the postal service to the Constitution. (That’s US Postal SERVICE, not US Postal Company INC)

If you think Trump can’t abide by waiting three days after Election Day to get the definitive vote count in Pennsylvania in 2020, imagine the shrieking and kicking and empurplling of his face that would go on if he had to wait more than a month for all the electors to mosey into town.

Yeah, let’s go back to that. I mean, if we really think that the old way of doing things 244 ago was so great and should never be changed.