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MAGA “Take her out” response instantly neutered.

In case you, like me, have been in meetings all day, here’s the deal:

Parnas and Furman of Fraud Guarantee were having din-din with Trump sometime in the spring of 2018 when they told him, over a beautiful chocolate cake, no doubt, that Marie Yovanovich was bad mouthing Trump, saying he was going to be impeached. (Somebody has a palantir apparently)

Unbeknownst to Trump, there was a recording device at this soirée, which suggests that there may be a LOT of incriminating recordings out there. It gives “Lordy, I hope there are tapes!” a whole new life.

The recording picked up a voice that appeared to be Trump’s saying:

“Get rid of her!” is what the voice that appears to be Trump’s is heard saying. “Get her out tomorrow. I don’t care. Get her out tomorrow. Take her out. OK? Do it.”

https://www.google.com/amp/s/abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/recording-appears-capture-trump-private-dinner-ukraine-ambassador/story%3fid=68506437

So here’s what’s going on in MAGA land. They are claiming that Trump can fire an ambassador at any time he wants. So, there’s nothing wrong with this.

And this is true. Trump can fire ambassadors for reasons or no reasons at all. All he had to do was call Pompeo and give the order.

Instead, he gave the order to Parnas and Furman. THEY have zero authority to fire anyone at the state department.

Yep, they are incapable of firing Yovanovich. “Take her out”? Well, that’s different.

That’s possible. But it ain’t pretty.

And the MAGA heads say… ?

Can’t wait to hear the recording and have the voice authenticated.

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A little more.

So, 66% of Americans want to see more witnesses and evidence.

But Americans in general give Trump credit for a booming economy. (The economy strives in spite of Trump, not because of him, but that is for another post)

The question is, if the economy is going so well, why is Trump seriously considering cutting social security and Medicare to pay for the ballooning budget deficit brought about by his lopsided tax cut?

Either the economy is great and there’s no reason to cut deferred benefits or it’s about to go pear shaped and the Republicans will finally achieve the goal they’ve had since Eisenhower to kill the social safety net that all living Americans have paid into for their entire lives.

Both things can’t be true.

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13 Responses

  1. I saw that. It would not be reasonable to assume the “take her out” remark was a direct threat on her life. Who does he think he is? Henry II?

    • “unreasonable”. Sorry for the typo.

    • Who will rid me of this meddlesome diplomat??

      • Exactly. I suppose we should be grateful that some overeager sycophant didn’t put a bullet in her.

        • Yet.

          Indeed some of the Treason Party senators may be afraid of that happening, if they put country over party and vote to remove Benedict Donald. The Treason Party is also the Gun Nut Party, after all

  2. Among other things, we are seeing that the average person is not very good at logic. Of course it makes no sense to tell the populace that the economy is booming, so we have to take away your health care and also your safety nets. But they seem to get away with most of this, maybe because most people don’t seem to understand these things, or just get deluded by the endless propaganda..The Republicans yelled about deficits every time a Democrat was in office, and then smiled and said that deficits don’t matter, when Republicans were in power. A whole bunch of Republicans voted for conviction of President Clinton, and none of them will vote for Trump’s conviction. If they admitted that they all hypocrites and con men, it would at least be something, but they aren’t even embarrassed by any of this.

    Democrats do not do well enough at combating this. It should be said over and over again. “If the economy is so good, why are they cutting Social Security and Medicare?” Of course, Trump and the downticket Republicans will say,that they won’t do it, but they will be lying.

    The truth is that the economy is not doing that well, since “real wages” (wage increases minus the rate of inflation)have gone up only about 1% in each year with Trump as President. And how can unemployment apparently be so low, and yet there is no upward pressure for employers to increase wages? This is very unusual, and makes one question the numbers, or whether many people might be holding multiple jobs to stay barely ahead. Also, increases in health care costs will destroy even that meager 1% gain. And cuts in entitlements will destroy the savings of the working class and we will be back to the Gilded Age, but with ten times as many people dying on the streets, while the few ultra-wealthy people enjoy the 21st century equivalent of palatial mansions and Faberge eggs. That’s their goal, and unless people somehow wise up to this, it will come to pass. The ability to explain all this to the average voter, is a gift that only a few people have. FDR did, and so did Bill Clinton, who explained trickle down economics to the 2012 Democratic Convention viewers much better than Obama was, doing during his bid for a second term, and thus saved his presidency for him. We desperately need more such people.

    • Yes, Obama was never very good at explaining policy and it’s one of the reasons why we’re in the mess we’re in right now. I agree we need someone who can break down complicated issues and explain them to voters. I’m not sure who it is but I am sure of who it is not. It is not Biden who thinks he can just rattle off talking points and it is not Bernie who is only capable of giving his stump speech over and over.

    • Plus, at the end of the day many of our non-affluent reactionaries really don’t give a rat’s arse about their economic status.

      They are THAT stucking fupid. 👿

    • I know for absolutely sure that SS and Medicare is the third rail. I hope he touches it. Nothing would be more satisfying.

  3. This pretty much sums up their tactics: CBS News had reported that some Republican official had warned Senate Republicans that if they vote against Trump, he will have their head on a pike.

    Now for anyone with any intelligence and knowledge of history , it would be immediately clear that this wasn’t meant literally. This is something that was done in the Middle Ages. No one was literally going to have anyone’s head on a pike, and the Republican who presumably told CBS News that, meant it about as literally as if he had said , “Trump is going to have them for breakfast,”, or “Trump is going to cut ___.” This would be beyond obvious to any of us.

    So Schiff briefly comments about this report, says he hopes it is not true, and notes that it is language from monarchial times. So the Republicans immediately take out after Schiff for this. For what? He wasn’t threatening anyone. He didn’t believe that anyone could possibly mean this literally. He didn’t even say that Trump said that, he just thought it was interesting that the the Republican who warned senators had used those terms, a term which Trump would never use because he is functionally illiterate. But the Republicans, seeing an opportunity to act outraged, which is their favorite rhetorical position, are trying to pretend that this is why they are going to vote against witnesses, and to acquit. Because if Schiff had not quoted that story, they would have been with him all the way. What spineless liars they are.

    • What freaking snowflakes. These people absolutely can never be trusted to run anything more than a small town doll shop or something. These are the people that are trying to tell us they are great at foreign policy? They are going to save us from caravans and Iran but they can’t stand being told what Trump said about them? They are totally pathetic.

      • It’s worse than that.
        First, if he said it and they took it seriously, it means they are fucking cowards.
        Second, If he said it and they didn’t take it seriously, it means they are using it as cover and they are actually complicit.
        Third, it actually proves schiff’s case that Donald Trump is actively interfering in the election with the intent to deprive voters of their choice.
        Senators either hew to his line, in which case they become Trumpers or their primary opponents are funded generously in which case they get an even more hard ass dependent Trumper.
        What they DON’T get is a senator who is committed to do what is in the best interest of the constituents of their states.
        And that might be fine with them. They should be called out on their hypocrisy when someone points it out.

        • What they DON’T get is a senator who is committed to do what is in the best interest of the constituents of their states.

          Or who takes his or her oath to preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution more seriously than Trump takes his.

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