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Just so you know

No matter what they tell you, I was not singing in a bar tonight to a Fleetwood Mac song. I did not take the microphone and try to warble like Stevie Nicks. They did not capture the moment on their cell phones. It’s all lies..

Fake news.

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16 Responses

  1. A link to any video would be appreciated. 😉

  2. So you’re saying you’re not at all like Joan Cusack in School if Rock…

  3. Riverdaughter,

    Since we don’t know what you look like, you could claim it was your evil twin or someone who looked like you. Just employ the principle of plausible deniability.

    If it was you, I hope you had fun!

  4. 😈

  5. Thought for tomorrow: 😛

  6. Did somebody say Stevie Nicks? :mrgreen:

  7. On the BBC today:

    What did Obama know and when?

    In August 2016, an envelope arrived at the White House marked for the eyes of President Barack Obama and three senior aides.

    According to the Washington Post, the envelope had come by courier from the CIA, and contained a bombshell revelation – Mr Putin was directing a state-sponsored effort to interfere with the US election.

    The FBI was already looking at ties between the Trump campaign and Russia, but the CIA memo seemed to confirm Russian efforts to throw the election Mr Trump’s way.

    According to reporting in the Post and elsewhere, the Obama administration agonised over whether to divulge the alleged operations. Reportedly fearful of appearing to attempt to interfere politically, they stayed relatively quiet.

    Other intelligence agencies were slow in reaching the same conclusion as the CIA, and congressional Republicans were reluctant to offer support to a public condemnation of Moscow.

    Warnings were issued to Russian officials, but it wasn’t until the main US intelligence agencies agreed, in late September, that President Obama directed them to make a public statement. To avoid appearing partisan, the statement would not carry his name.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-42493918

    • Well, I have said this before; but the end result was that the most partisan administration in U.S. history is now trying to destroy every semblance of our democracy. Apparently there is a new story that Trump was urged by some of his aides to take away Obama’s intelligence briefings. So much for the benefits of the supposed high road.. Obama was concerned from the outset of his first Presidential run, about appearing partisan. The end result of this concern was this nightmare. We hold the White House, and we are determined to do everything not to show the slightest hint of being partisan. They hold the the White House, and they bludgeon over everything, with not an inch of compromise. Obviously,, everything should have been done during the election campaign to have alerted everyone to this attack on our democracy, and that Trump was being investigated. But it wasn’t. But at least no one could accuse Obama of partisanship–well, except that they do, anyway. So what was achieved to the good?

  8. Where is Obama?

  9. If Hillary were a man, Obama would have done everything possible to stop the Russians from interfering with the election and the American people would have supported such an action. Don’t give him a pass about not wanting appear partisan. Partisan does not exist when announcing to the American people that a foreign adversary is interfering with an American election to install their very own puppet. The evidence is there. Hell, they convicted Hillary over those e-mails with NO evidence of her compromising the security of the United States.

    Why can’t we all wake up and realize that trump has committed treason against the American people yet, no action has been taken to stop this maniac..

    Mueller should do everything he can to stop trump from destroying our country complete. Surely, he knows that the damage is close to irreparable. Why is he tiptoeing around submitting a subpoena for trump to testify?

    • I certainly agree with the essence of what you wrote. With regard to the subpoena, he knows that Trump will fight it, and it will drag along until the case goes to the Supreme Court, where it is very iffy if he would prevail, given that there would be four Justices who will vote for Trump, leaving Roberts, who is no sure thing to buck his Far Right patrons. Mueller may try to write a report without Trump’s testimony, since Trump will never testify unless he is forced to by the Supreme Court, and may not even do it then.

      What is really infuriating to me is that now there is this narrative, even picked up by some in the media, that the investigation is dragging on. Giuliani keeps pretending that Trump wants to testify, but they have no intention of doing so. Kenneth Starr spent five years and $90 million investigating Bill Clinton, and I do not remember anyone in the media or anywhere else saying that it was taking too long. Five years. He originally started investigating Whitewater, the biggest red herring ever, up until Hillary’s emails; and then went on investigating anything and everything; finally learning that Clinton had a consensual affair with another woman, for lying about which, he was impeached by a Republican Congress that hated him. I think that Mueller will ultimately have s devastating report, with or without Trump’s testimony. But after that, I have no idea what the Congress will do with it, if anything. The Republicans will shrug their shoulders, and say that it proves nothing, let it go. They are anxious to go back to investigating Hillary’s emails some more. The only possible way to get rid of Trump and his lackeys is to vote them out, even with the obstacles of Russian hacking, gerrymandering, voter suppression, and all the other things which this utterly immoral party does to keep power.

      • Yes, I wouldn’t doubt that even if the Supreme Court would determine that a subpoena of a sitting president would be enforceable, Trump would still ignore it. Such reaches of lawlessness and absurdity seem to have no bounds. Regarding the push to rush the Mueller investigation- there are forces on both sides wishing to quicken the pace, for very different reasons. Many of us worry that any continued delay would compound the ongoing harms that are invected on the country. The other side just wants to deligitimize it and have it vaporize. The Starr investigation, the Benghazi investigation took longer and were essentially fruitless. The current one is crucial. I usually feel patient and respectful of the way it is playing out, but lately have become less confident that even if everything is completed with the utmost precision and care and the results show blatant illegalities, the longer the outcome takes, the less of a framework for justice will remain.

        • Lililam, it is nice to see you, and I hope you continue to write your opinions here. As we know, impeachment and conviction depends on whatever the Congress says it is, which should not be the case. I was thinking that maybe Mueller should indict Trump for crimes. There are a bunch of pundits who want to say that a sitting president cannot be indicted, but that was never decided, it is based on some kind of non-legal opinion from the DOJ in the past. Of course, the stacked Supreme Court will not agree that you can, but it would certainly make for some devastating headlines, as Trump’s lawyers would have to bring the case.

          Ultimately, this may all be about public opinion. Even if somehow Trump were to get impeached by the House, we would need 67 Senate votes. And as it is unlikely that Pence will be sufficiently implicated (though of course he should be), all we will get out of this is someone perhaps even more evil than Trump, without the tarnish. There is really no good way out of this. Win the House, and we will be able to investigate all of them, plus there will be no more awful bills, even if no good ones can pass. Then we must win the Senate and the Presidency in 2020. It is a long time to wait and suffer, but I do not see any way to just make this vanish. This is not something to hope for, but I am pretty certain that the economy will collapse at some point; the accentuated trickle down economics is worse than under Bush or Coolidge, and eventually the middle class will drown in debt and inflation. Of course, the middle class is what supports the Democratic Party, which is part of the Republicans’ goal, to create a society in which a few billionaires can self-perpetuate. Before too long, people will realize that they are financially worse off under this regime, and that all the reality show pyrotechnics are not worth it.

  10. I agree with you William, that the republicans will do nothing no matter what Mueller’s report says about trump. Ultimately, it will be up to the American people to put pressure on their representatives to not let him get away with treason. The worst thing that could happen in all this is if the American people determine that there is NOTHING they can do to rid us of this cancer on not just the presidency but on the entire country. After, they and that includes the orange stain all work for us and not the other way around. Sadly. far too many of our fellow Americans have forgotten this important fact.

    I for one have absolutely no faith in the government we presently have. the Dems appear not to have the passion or the desire to fight the republicans the same way the republicans have gone after clinton and obama. They want to “go high” while they “go low”. Well, if we had taken that same attitude during Hitler’s reign, we would all be speaking German now.

    The big question is can we truly have faith in the election process, since russia is still working diligently to hack the results (and I am certain that’s what they did in 2016 with the electoral votes). Perhaps the republicans know that russia will help them win their respective elections and is why they are cowtowing to trump. whatever the reason for this insanity on the part of congress, the ONLY way elections can free us of these criminals is to vote in such extraordinarily large numbers that even russia cannot change the results without exposing themselves as complicit in controling the outcome of the American election process.

    • Exactly; the turnout must be historic. People have to learn that if they do not vote, it will be far worse than it used to be, where not too much changes for them even if they don’t get around to voting. This whole electoral system ultimately turns out to be antiquated and ludicrous. I saw Dave Wasserman, who works with the Cook Report, and seems to be a very decent guy; he said that 16% of the population controls 50% of the Senate seats; 24% of the population controls 60% of the Senate seats. A small white conservative rural populace have obscene power over the majority, due to the anti-democratic electoral college and “every state gets two Senators” rules. We always say it, but do we really think about the awful fact that Hillary got virtually 3 million more votes than Trump, and yet did not gain the presidency? A person in California or New York has less of a vote than someone in Iowa or Wyoming? This is not some kind of board game. We have the worst electoral system in the world. In every other country, the person who gets the most votes, wins.

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