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How is Hillary doing?  

She gave a commencement speech at Wellesley today. Let’s listen in, shall we?


15 Responses

  1. But was she right that she couldn’t have expressed her anger in that debate? There are plenty of people who yearned for Clinton to get mad; during the campaign, an imagined litany of Clinton’s fury titled “Let Me Remind You Fuckers Who I Am” went viral. “Oh, I am [pissed],” she says. But as a woman in public life, “you can’t be angry for yourself. You just can’t. You can be indignant, you can be annoyed, you can be frustrated, but you can’t be angry … I don’t think anger’s a strategy.”

    You mean it’s not a strategy for you, I clarify. “For me, yeah.” She pauses. “But I don’t think it’s a good strategy for most people.”

    But this was an election that was, in many ways, about anger. And Trump and Sanders capitalized on that.

    “Yes.” Clinton nods. “And I beat both of them.”

    From Traister’s article in the NYMAG

    Yes, she most definitely did!
    GOP has figured out how to steal and it will never be the same again.

    • I cried reading about this bit. Fuck the mfers.

      To hear Clinton tell it, focusing on the immediate tasks was what saved her. “This was a crushing, devastating blow,” she says now. “I just thought we had to get through this with a level of dignity and integrity, and there’d be plenty of time to try to figure out what went wrong and what we could have done differently, but for that moment we just had to stick to the ritualistic process: Okay, when I was sure, I have to call Trump. I want to call Obama. And then I have to figure out what I’m gonna do the next day … I had to get through that before I could go, ‘What the hell just happened?’ and be angry and upset. And be disappointed and feel I let people down and feel everything that I felt.”

      What an extraordinarily mature response, especially this: “I just thought we had to get through this with a level of dignity and integrity…”

      Fuck the media motherfuckers and everyone else for perpetrating this motherfucking disaster. {Anybody listening to Lawrence tonight?}

  2. From a fellow nushlover. Hilary’s campaign made mistakes. I admired Hilary more in 2008 than in 2016. She wasn’t the most creative person going. The Democratic party has too long ignored the WWC.

    • Message received. I don’t completely agree with you. I was there in 2006-7 when the D’s decided to chuck Appalachia and the South. It was a big mistake. Will try to retrieve some DailyKos diaries on it but it will have to wait.
      Gotta get out of the house by noon and BiFF has requested something from TJ’s. So, need to get my ass in gear.

    • I liked her better in 2008 too and 2016 got muddled because of Obama. But the extreme contrast between the two candidates in 2016 was there from the get go unless you listened to Bernie and the Buffoon, both aided by the Russians. At this point, all that WWC thing is a media manufactured cliche (because she got their votes) and if you think Republicans are better at it, you deserve the fruits of your vote like their budget and healthcare. Perspective! No where in this universe, whatever mistakes she made needed to be repaid with this outcome. This is the equivalent of cutting off your nose to spite your face. Trump could be seen as unfit and corrupt from day one and he said so and his rallies said so. For God’s sake, they were chanting ‘lock her up’ and if that didn’t disturb people what else would! If you could not make the distinction and imagine the consequences of your spite, it is on you.

      It is amazing to me that everyone wants to hold Hillary accountable for something but no one is/was looking at what a catastrophic mistake Trump would be and has been. Voters not getting the help they needed from the media lacked imagination to see good from evil.

      • Lol!! It’s ok, pm. He’s a friend of mine who lives a bit of a sheltered life right now. 😉

        He’s not a troll.

        • Sorry, RD. The comment was not necessarily all aimed at him and I certainly don’t want to piss off your friends. Just took the opportunity to unload. Thanks.

  3. The country is in humongous trouble. This is not the time to analyze what Democrats did or didn’t do. You need to come together to get your country back. There is a foreign adversary who has infiltrated the GOP and infected it at various levels and the Republicans have gone along with it. They have used disinformation and adopted norms counter to democratic traditions not just at the presidential level but also at various local and state campaigns. The voting systems are corrupted and laws are weakened. The adversary would not have been successful but for the willing participation of the only other major political party in this country and gutless and corrupt media. America as the sophisticated democracy that it should be is in danger. Talk about that for God’s sake and leave Hillary alone and remember, she did warn you all! {IMO, as a true INTJ, she gave too much credit to the voters that they will see the distinction but no such luck.}

  4. This country from my immigrant POV is built on trust and respect and most of all, honor code (UVA grad here) — that is, you do things with honesty and integrity of your own accord because it is the right thing to do. That has quickly eroded as we speak and it certainly did not hold when we had a corrupt candidate who didn’t hold himself to any honor code and neither did his handlers and his party nor the media power brokers who needed to do their job. All those motherfuckers who voted for Trump need a civic lesson and the core principles on which this country was built. Separate this out from policies because if you lose this thing, there is no room for any honest politicking let alone policy.

    Here is Sally Yates at Harvard Law: we need Sally Yates’ at the table not that fucker from Montana who got elected in the last couple of days.

  5. Betty Cracker hits it out of the park. :mrgreen:

    Peak Dude Bro

  6. Remind me to strangle Spammy if the opportunity ever arises. 😡

  7. Why aren’t Journolists and reporters writing about this? This was the first thing I noticed in the campaign that how skillfully and with strength, Hillary handled the buffoon and neutered him. Now if the media had focused on this and how unfit the buffoon was, which are actually the truth of 2016 campaign, would people have elected this buffoon, {I would say yes because of the shenanigans at the polls but at least the picture painted would have been fair and just}?

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