
Mountain Meadows Massacre Monument*
When I said that we need to watch out for Christian religious extremists and anti-guvmit types with guns, I’m pretty sure I lost readers. Oh, ho-ho, there goes RD again, gettin’ all paranoid. She’s been eating too much tin-foil.
Turns out, not so much. The DHS was concerned about that possibility too but decided to defund the office that was looking into it anyway:
Daryl Johnson once worked in the branch of the Department of Homeland Security that studied the threats posed by antigovernment groups. His former office was shut down more than five years ago.
But when members of an armed group took over a federal wildlife refuge in Oregon last week, Mr. Johnson was not surprised.
In 2009, the former analyst wrote a report that warned of a growing antigovernment movement and the possible recruitment of returning military veterans that could “lead to the potential emergence of terrorist groups or lone-wolf extremists.”
His words drew fierce criticism from Republican lawmakers and conservative news media, labeling the report an unfair assessment of legitimate criticisms of the government. The document was retracted after Janet Napolitano, who was then the Homeland Security secretary, apologized to veterans, and the Extremism and Radicalization Branch was quietly dismantled.
Ah-fa-la-la! Isn’t that funny?
Know what’s even funnier? It was the openly Muslim Congressman, Keith Ellison, who thought that shutting down this office was a bad idea.
Oh wait, totally forgot to remind everyone that the first act of religious extremist terrorism on September 11 was by a bunch of Mormons who thought the government was going to come to Utah to…
…wait for it…
… take away their guns.
Or some such nonsense. Yep, turns out they were waiting for the US of A to send soldiers into Utah and make them start behaving or not polygamating or something. If you want a complete breakdown of how the whole ugly religious extremism-anti-government Mountain Meadows Massacre happened, check out this collaborative podcast effort between Lindsay Hanson Park and Mormon Expressions. You won’t be sorry. It’s an amazing story and cautionary tale for all of us.
Granted, the Mormons had had a checkered past with the authorities in several states with massacre-ing happening on both sides. But with the Mountain Meadows Massacre, Mormons took it to a new level and butchered over 100 men, women and children who were just passing through. Maybe they wanted the cattle. Maybe they suspected them of collaborating with the people who killed one of their apostles. Maybe they just wanted to set an example for anyone else who thought they could traipse through the west without even a “by your leave”.
Who knows?
One thing for sure though. Those crazy Mormons had been fed a steady diet of anti-government propaganda, were chased from place to place because they were trying to rig the voting system in their favor and followed some new messianic religion, and they were waiting for the end of days.
So, you know, we have all been here before.
The violent, anti-government rhetoric in the west has been around for more than a century. We probably shouldn’t be surprised that Glenn Beck has been using the survivalist shtick to sell everything from gold to desert bunkers.
There is a cost to all of this. The religious extremism and anti-government paranoia has gone mainstream now. These people have their own “political correctness”. That is, in order to be a good American, you’ve got to believe in the most reactionary forms of patriarchal Christianity and the second amendment is THE most important amendment in the Constitution. It trumps the first, fourth and fifth amendment. Oh and the 14th amendment is optional.
Challenge them on any of this and see what happens.
*You may wonder why there’s a wall and fencing around the massacre monument. Turns out that the monument kept getting torn down. If I’m not mistaken, it was Brigham Young himself who ordered it torn down the first time. Then the relatives of the slain would rebuild it annnnnd the Mormons would tear it down again. So, who knows how long this one will be around. I think it’s a government historic landmark now.
Even more reason to tear it down.
For more on the most recent Malheur occupation by the YeeHawdist, Ammon Bundy and pals, see these background articles from The Conversation.
Filed under: General | Tagged: anti-government, department of homeland security, Keith Ellison, Mormons, Mountain Meadows Massacre, religious extremism, Second Amendment, They all laughed |
This is the day that I have decided to try poutine.
I’m off to the grocery store in search of cheese curds. Thought I spotted them in one of the stores off the beaten track.
Will update later…
I think Trader Joes has them?
Yeah, I thought I saw them there too but cheese curds around here are a bit like Ivory Billed Woodpeckers.
You think you spot them but when you go back to look, they’re gone.
Doesn’t gravy soaked cheesy french fries sound good??
Yes. There used to be a restaurant in Topeka that routinely asked if we wanted gravey with our fries. Loved it. Gained 5 pounds ….
I think Super Target has them.
This to me is a perfect example of the foibles of Obama. The right wing screams and calls him names and he drops a program.
This is the best sentence I have read in a while:
“The fundamental difference between the Trump and Sanders crowd was that the Sanders crowd has more money, the natural consequence of the American contradiction machinery: rich white people can afford to think about socialism, the poor can only afford their anger. ”
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jan/10/white-man-pathology-bernie-sanders-donald-trump?CMP=twt_gu
How much more money do the White people for Sanders have? How rich are they? What is the Guardian calling rich? How many of the younger people attending Sanders rallies are rich in Guardian terms? And how rich is that?
Also, who has more money-per-donor, the Clinton donors or the Sanders donors?
This article looks like part of an Information Operation (as Colonel Lang would call it) to paint Sanders as the candidate of Limousine Liberals. I wonder if the author of this article has secret connections to the Clinton Dynasty?
Sanders is the candidate of limousine liberals. He has mostly upper income whites as his base. Basically he has the same support as Obama had back in 2008 minus African Americans. Polling in IA shows him losing the voters who make 50K or less and winning the ones that make over 50K. The thing is he’s offering nothing for people struggling. The people who have been left behind in this economy Bernie seems to ignore. And college students mostly are not struggling. They are still supported by their parents.
“Limousine Liberals”? Like me? Like Lambert Strether?
It’s what the polling shows. Your information is anecdotal.
Actually, this looks like more Clintonite Information Operations. We’ll see how well it works for the Wall Street Clintonite forces and their multimillionaire champion (thanks to her money-laundry foundation) Hillary .Clinton.
You can’t address my points?
The best description I saw is Sanders is the candidate for people who can afford socialism.
Well, the actual data on campaign contributions would tell you that Hillary is the candidate of the 0.1%, not Sanders. It’s not even close.
The NYT link shows that 88% of Sanders donations were less than $200 and that Hillary raised much more than Sanders from PACs.
Going to the data from the non partisan site Open Secrets we find that Hillary has vacuumed up rather large donations from Wall Street: the Saban Cpaital private equity group ($2mm) Soros Fund Management ($1.5MM), the Evercore investment bank $260k), the DE Shaw hedge fund ($800k), Golden West Financial founders Herbert and Marion Sandler ($1 mm) and another $1mm from hedge fund Paloma Partners. Hillary also topped Hollywood’s Dreamworks studio for a cool $2 million.
The big Sanders donations are almost all from labor unions and the biggest donation is $205k. Bernie’s top 20 contrbutors COMBINE for less than $ 2million.
Hillary had at least two individual contributors who gave her that much, APIECE.
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/us/elections/election-2016-campaign-money-race.html?_r=0
https://www.opensecrets.org/pres16/contrib.php?cycle=2016&id=N00000019
https://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/contrib.php?cycle=Career&cid=n00000528
From the same source:
“Sanders’s exasperation was the principal fact to be communicated, more than any political content. Trump was about winning again. Sanders was about having lost. The vagueness of American politics is what astonished the outsider. It’s all about feelings and God and bullshit. Sanders actually uttered the following sentence out loud: “What we’re saying is when millions of people come together to restore their government we can do extraordinary things.” Nobody asked what he meant. Nobody asked for numbers. They applauded. Better to take it in the spirit in which it’s given, like a Catskills resort comedian. “
Good to run into you again Ghost. Long time no see and great link!
Same here.
Speaking of things worthy of mocking laughter: 😈
http://driftglass.blogspot.com/2016/01/hes-told-us-not-to-blow-it.html
Driftglass will, once in a while, venture some tepid criticism of Teh Lightworkering Dudebro, but he always reverts to Obot form sooner or later, blaming all of Obummer’s shortcomings on the obstructions of Teh Evil Republicans. Driftglass used to be cool, before Obummer came along. 😛