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Never Surrender

Seth Andrews of The Thinking Atheist gave a presentation in Australia during the Unholy Trinity Tour about violence, the end of the world and not giving in to fear, uncertainty and dread. You don’t have to be an atheist to appreciate his point of view.

Disclaimer: I am not an atheist though my concept of God is pretty abstract and I don’t believe in 3000 year old texts. If you do, knock your socks off. It’s none of my business. However, I do consider myself an enemy of any form of fundamentalism and I’m not afraid to say it.

I hope someday Seth will give a presentation on what various religions think the after life is going to be like. If there was one thing I looked forward to less than Armageddon when I was growing up it was the prospect of spending eternity with a bunch of  Jehovah’s Witnesses. In that New World, there would be no war, no competition, the lambs would lie down with the lions, blah, blah, blah. And people who survived Armageddon as unmarried would remain sexless and unmarried forever and ever and ever.

I was surprised to find recently that Mormons also have a similar teaching. If you’re unmarried when you die, you become like an angel and servant to the married in the one of the heavens you get to go to.

And this is supposed to be some kind of feature. So, let me get this straight. Married sex is so good that only married people are supposed to get it- even in heaven. Or is it so bad and sinful that even after you die, you have to remain virginal? Which is it? I’m confused.

But what really turned me off to the New World type after life was not so much that it was going to resemble a young adult fiction dystopia but that it was going to be so borrrrrring.

“So, what do you want to do today?”

“I don’t know, what do you want to do today?”

“Wanna go pick some perfectly ripe fruit again?”

“We did that yesterday. And the day before that. And the day before that.”

“How about some kickball?”

“Not allowed. Too competitive.”

“Badminton?”

{{rolling eyes}}

“Hey, maybe we could go listen to Sister Edith play that hymn again on the piano.”

“You know, she’s had 3000 years to practice. How come she never gets any better?”

{{sigh}}

“Are we eating grass??”

And so on.

Here’s Seth from the Thinking Atheist talking about The Goodness.  Take it away Seth:

I don’t

4 Responses

  1. I like the idea of an afterlife but have never had a clear idea for how it would work. When I first heard about reincarnation, in the third grade, my first thought was that I must have been a pretty horrible person in a previous life to be where I was then. Which makes me think that my childhood had to be pretty stressful.

    • Tina Turner is a Buddhist.

      I wonder what she thinks she did in a previous life to deserve Ike?

    • I just can’t see how one and done works in “the grand scheme” of life.
      How can we reconcile Donald Trump on the one hand and a starving beggar in Calcutta on the other?
      Fundamentalism is an evil in every discipline or faith; probably including in atheism

  2. I like Supernatural’s take: everyone gets their own Blue Heaven, which in some people’s case is “more of the same.”

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