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Presidential Debate, the Third: Furn Policy- Live blog

Posted on October 22, 2012 by riverdaughter

Ok, sportsfans, this is the last debate.  Can I get a “Darwin!”?  Tonight’s topic is Foreign Policy.  I hope we don’t get some tedious version of the kerning controversy when it comes to what happened in Benghazi.  That would be death by boredom.  Benghazi was a  terrorist attack brought on by raging maniacal Islamic fundies having a hissy fit over some stupid movie.  Here in the US, we just change the channel or push the back button or leave the theater but apparently that is too much to ask of *some* people in the middle east.  What Muslim nations need to implement is a V-chip that will protect viewers from blasphemy like we can protect kiddies from naughty words and naughtier bits.   It’s a bit regrettable that grown up nations insist on treating their citizens like children who are emotionally incapable of handling a little disrespect but there ya’ go. We’ve got Christian crazies over here too.  Fundamentalist extremists come in all flavors of religion.

On the other hand, if a prophet is dissed somewhere in the world and you don’t hear it, is it still blasphemy?

But anyway, I’m getting a little burned out on debates and foreign policy ranks right up there with Keynesianism vs MMT for me.  I might need some help liveblogging this one.

As I said last time, our “watch with the sound off” patented liveblogging technique has been shamelessly pirated by some cable news channels.  So, it’s your choice, sound off or on.  I’m a cord cutter (by necessity) so I watch the debates on C-Span.  You can catch it here.

Once again for our conservative friends, we don’t have a dog in this fight.  We don’t like either one of these guys.  Obama is no liberal, not even close.  The socialist party wouldn’t have him either.  You’re just going to have to take our word on this because we’re liberals and you’re not.  And Mitt is a Republican.  That just about sums it up for us.  The Republicans are an irrational mob lead by some manipulative conmen who are masquerading as a party.  Many of us are voting third party.  Please don’t comment party propaganda and focus group tested “memes” here.  For one thing, we can spot a meme from a mile away and for another, they just irritate the s^*& out of us.

Other than that, play ball!

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150 Responses

  1. riverdaughter, on October 22, 2012 at 9:04 pm said:

    Yes, let’s get Benghazi out of the way.

  2. riverdaughter, on October 22, 2012 at 9:05 pm said:

    Oh, yeah, and I want to wish Bob Schieffer good luck.

  3. riverdaughter, on October 22, 2012 at 9:06 pm said:

    Mitt: “I did my homework. Look at how many muslim troublespots I can name!”

  4. riverdaughter, on October 22, 2012 at 9:06 pm said:

    Um, Mitt? I don’t think they want your help to reject extremist Islam.

  5. riverdaughter, on October 22, 2012 at 9:07 pm said:

    Obama: “I killed Osama bin Laden {{hint, hint}}”

  6. deja_vu, on October 22, 2012 at 9:07 pm said:

    “we can’t kill our way out of this mess”, Romney’s advisors are good. Lots of “kill” talk, Obama, “Al Queida killed us” Ugh.

  7. riverdaughter, on October 22, 2012 at 9:08 pm said:

    Um, IIRC, Hillary and your National Security team had to talk you into air striking in Libya. And besides, NATO and all that.

  8. riverdaughter, on October 22, 2012 at 9:10 pm said:

    Mitt: “We’re going to track them and Kill them”
    Obama: “I’m going to drone them to death. With drones.”
    Mitt: “We gotta learn’em muslims because Republicans did such a bang up job in Iraq and Afghanistan”

  9. deja_vu, on October 22, 2012 at 9:10 pm said:

    Romney is a strategist, Obama is, well, not. At least everyone I talk to in real life is not liking either candidate, I’m not alone. Oh, and yay, TC!!

  10. riverdaughter, on October 22, 2012 at 9:10 pm said:

    Jeez, the Egyptian civilization is fricking 6000 years old. I think they’ll figure it out, Mitt.

  11. deja_vu, on October 22, 2012 at 9:12 pm said:

    Obama to Romney “you haven’t been a positionist” What’s a positionist?

  12. katiebird, on October 22, 2012 at 9:12 pm said:

    At the trailmix chat room they’re think Obama has his first debate face on… looking irritated.

  13. riverdaughter, on October 22, 2012 at 9:12 pm said:

    Oooo, low blow, “You haven’t been in a position to execute foreign policy, er, like I wasn’t four years ago. That’s why I dissed Hillary before I let her be SOS”

  14. riverdaughter, on October 22, 2012 at 9:13 pm said:

    Mitt admits he made a mistake! Whoa! Was that in the debate prep?

  15. deja_vu, on October 22, 2012 at 9:13 pm said:

    OMG, it’s all about the Putin.

  16. riverdaughter, on October 22, 2012 at 9:14 pm said:

    I think Pakistan is a bigger threat but Iran is more important if you’re thinking about pipelines under the Caspian Sea. Then you gotta worry about Russia as well.
    Wait, where did that come from?

  17. deja_vu, on October 22, 2012 at 9:14 pm said:

    Romney is all ready to try to stand him down.

  18. riverdaughter, on October 22, 2012 at 9:15 pm said:

    Obama is lecturing the Republicans about taking a stand and telling other nations know out beliefs?
    It’s an implanted chip.

  19. riverdaughter, on October 22, 2012 at 9:16 pm said:

    Obama can count to Four!
    Four! bwhahaha! Four foreign policy points!

  20. deja_vu, on October 22, 2012 at 9:16 pm said:

    Obama says we can’t continue to “nation building” in the Middle East. We’re building? Really?

  21. riverdaughter, on October 22, 2012 at 9:18 pm said:

    Oh, come on, Barack, you have no problem watching people undergoing heartbreaking circumstances. Sometimes, you drone them to put them out of their misery.

  22. riverdaughter, on October 22, 2012 at 9:18 pm said:

    Syria is where those pipelines under the caspian sea terminate on the mediterranean!

  23. riverdaughter, on October 22, 2012 at 9:19 pm said:

    Arms shouldn’t get into the wrong hands.
    Something about that seems awkward

  24. deja_vu, on October 22, 2012 at 9:20 pm said:

    Work through our partners to figure out how to dominate Syria, because It’s an “opportunity”, business plan 101. Oh, Mitt.

  25. riverdaughter, on October 22, 2012 at 9:21 pm said:

    Obama : When we went into Libya
    Interpretation: When I was dragged kicking and screaming into Libya…

  26. riverdaughter, on October 22, 2012 at 9:21 pm said:

    We killed him in a careful and thoughtful way.

  27. deja_vu, on October 22, 2012 at 9:22 pm said:

    How does one replace Assad and not involve the military? Phone calls, blogs?

  28. riverdaughter, on October 22, 2012 at 9:23 pm said:

    Mitt: You’re not being a leader in Syria and you haven’t toppled Assad but no troops in Syria. It will all be magical.

  29. riverdaughter, on October 22, 2012 at 9:24 pm said:

    Obama: Running over people with tanks? Barbaric! We should just drone them.

  30. deja_vu, on October 22, 2012 at 9:24 pm said:

    What a surprise, Obama references Kennedy, oops, needs the boomers now, apparently.

  31. riverdaughter, on October 22, 2012 at 9:24 pm said:

    Oh, please, he doesn’t give a shit about women in *this* country.

  32. riverdaughter, on October 22, 2012 at 9:25 pm said:

    Yeah, WE want good schools, roofs and economic opportunities.
    BUT YOU GAVE US GEITHNER

  33. deja_vu, on October 22, 2012 at 9:27 pm said:

    Uh, Mitt has wishes that it was recognized that oppressed people wanted freedom.

  34. riverdaughter, on October 22, 2012 at 9:27 pm said:

    How the candidates plan to change the regime in Syria:

  35. deja_vu, on October 22, 2012 at 9:29 pm said:

    America’s role in the world question. Should be good.

  36. riverdaughter, on October 22, 2012 at 9:29 pm said:

    Yes, let’s reduce our deficit by screwing anyone under the age of 55! and let’s beef up our military!
    No, there’s no conflict here with the idea of reducing the deficit, why do you ask?

  37. riverdaughter, on October 22, 2012 at 9:29 pm said:

    Well, we didn’t vote for war until Dubya was president.

  38. riverdaughter, on October 22, 2012 at 9:30 pm said:

    Mitt is once again pounding on Obama’s poor record on the economy.

  39. katiebird, on October 22, 2012 at 9:30 pm said:

    How many times has Romney said the word, “peace” …. What is he responding to. It can’t be me! And since he also wants a strong military, I’m not sure he actually understands what “peace” is.

  40. riverdaughter, on October 22, 2012 at 9:31 pm said:

    Ah yes, American exceptionalism.
    We’re number, um, what number are we now?

  41. riverdaughter, on October 22, 2012 at 9:31 pm said:

    Because Hillary’s been flying her ass off.

  42. riverdaughter, on October 22, 2012 at 9:32 pm said:

    Obama sent Jon Huntsman to China, not to get our jobs back.

  43. deja_vu, on October 22, 2012 at 9:32 pm said:

    We’re an “indispensable” nation? As a middle manager, I can say, no one is Indispenable. Just saying, Pres Obama.

  44. riverdaughter, on October 22, 2012 at 9:32 pm said:

    My ears are bleeding. Is it all over yet??

    • deja_vu, on October 22, 2012 at 9:36 pm said:

      Most people in my real life world are watching these debates saying, “WTF?” Sadly, they are only just now paying attention, due to the pain of subsequent Bush/Obama regimes.

  45. riverdaughter, on October 22, 2012 at 9:33 pm said:

    Obama knows nothing about science and tech research here

  46. riverdaughter, on October 22, 2012 at 9:34 pm said:

    Hey, look! Mitt can count too. Can he count to four like Obama?

  47. riverdaughter, on October 22, 2012 at 9:34 pm said:

    Mitt goes to FIVE!

  48. riverdaughter, on October 22, 2012 at 9:35 pm said:

    Um, some of us don’t want to work for ourselves.

  49. riverdaughter, on October 22, 2012 at 9:35 pm said:

    Really, we don’t want to work for ourselves.

    Hey! I’m talking to you two! We don’t want to work for ourselves!

  50. riverdaughter, on October 22, 2012 at 9:36 pm said:

    It doesn’t matter how much math and science we teach.
    Scientists ain’t got no damn jobs.

  51. riverdaughter, on October 22, 2012 at 9:37 pm said:

    WE ALREADY HAVE THE MOST HIGHLY SKILLED WORKFORCE. WE’RE ALL OUT OF WORK!
    FUCKITY, FUCK, FUCK, FUCK.

    • deja_vu, on October 22, 2012 at 9:42 pm said:

      American workers, the “secret sauce”. We bring the “big bang” and we are on the auction block. Yet, we have the constitution as a foundation, a blocking move by the founding fathers (and Abigail Adams, et. al.) These two have no clue.

  52. deja_vu, on October 22, 2012 at 9:37 pm said:

    Hey, his fourth graders rocked, go Mitt!

  53. katiebird, on October 22, 2012 at 9:37 pm said:

    Yes. Romney can count…. oh, never mind!

  54. riverdaughter, on October 22, 2012 at 9:38 pm said:

    Didja notice that we’re not talking about foreign policy anymore?

  55. riverdaughter, on October 22, 2012 at 9:39 pm said:

    BTW, MA and NJ are the top states in the nation as far as the number of best high school students. The kid has to get a ridiculously high PSAT score just to make “commended”. So, you know, Mitt probably had something to do with that. he probably doesn’t want his conservative supporters to look too closely.

  56. riverdaughter, on October 22, 2012 at 9:40 pm said:

    Obama wants to get back to the military. I think he was losing the plot there.

  57. riverdaughter, on October 22, 2012 at 9:41 pm said:

    “I’ve spent more on the military in the past five years… and screwed poor homeowners with HAMP but who’s counting?”

  58. riverdaughter, on October 22, 2012 at 9:41 pm said:

    Are these two candidates talking to voters or their donors?

  59. riverdaughter, on October 22, 2012 at 9:43 pm said:

    Oh, Ok, Mitt is definitely talking down to, er, talking to his voters. Balancing the country’s budget is not the same as balancing a company’s budget but he’s counting on you to not realize what a facile comparison that is. He’s also counting on you not to understand the meaning of the word “facile”.

  60. riverdaughter, on October 22, 2012 at 9:44 pm said:

    Obama has been on the defensive throughout the debate.

  61. riverdaughter, on October 22, 2012 at 9:44 pm said:

    We don’t have bayonets.
    We have ships that go underwater!
    And drones!

  62. riverdaughter, on October 22, 2012 at 9:46 pm said:

    Israel knows we will stand by them. We will let them run our foreign policy. Oh wait.

  63. riverdaughter, on October 22, 2012 at 9:47 pm said:

    Yes, but if we turn Iran into a glass parking lot NOW, we can start the underwater Caspian Sea pipeline. Why wait??

  64. riverdaughter, on October 22, 2012 at 9:49 pm said:

    Being a land-locked oil rich country that used to be part of the USSR sucks.

  65. deja_vu, on October 22, 2012 at 9:49 pm said:

    I’m playing music and watching body language. A consolation, third parties are poised.

  66. riverdaughter, on October 22, 2012 at 9:49 pm said:

    How about we fix gender apartheid in this country?

  67. riverdaughter, on October 22, 2012 at 9:51 pm said:

    I need more wine. Someone take the wheel

    • deja_vu, on October 22, 2012 at 9:56 pm said:

      I need more wine, too, Entertainment Tonight offers more substance than this debate. “where have you gone Joe Biden, a nation turns it lonely eyes to you” :-/

  68. Teresa, on October 22, 2012 at 9:53 pm said:

    I wonder if Mitts debate buddies ever thought to tell him to slow down so he doesn’t stutter? Good God people, can’t you coach the guy?

  69. gardenereric2012, on October 22, 2012 at 9:53 pm said:

    The military budget cut was proposed by congress and mainly a Democrate-Republican special committee stratagy to get bi-partisan action on the debt

  70. riverdaughter, on October 22, 2012 at 9:53 pm said:

    Ooo, Obama pulled a Hanoi Jane, like trying to make nice to the rest of the world after Bush is a *bad* thing.

  71. riverdaughter, on October 22, 2012 at 9:54 pm said:

    Nuclear. Centrifuges. Oooo, scary.
    Jeez, you’d think this was 1954.

  72. riverdaughter, on October 22, 2012 at 9:55 pm said:

    Oh, that’s right. To Mitt’s voters it is 1954.

  73. riverdaughter, on October 22, 2012 at 9:55 pm said:

    Mitt: Iranian Oil good, Nuclear Iran, baaaaad

  74. katiebird, on October 22, 2012 at 9:56 pm said:

    Is “most crippling sanctions ever” really THAT good a thing? Seriously. At some point don’t they become barbaric?

    • riverdaughter, on October 22, 2012 at 10:00 pm said:

      Yes, but whatcha going to do? Getting aggressive is also not acceptable. And sanctions worked with South Africa and other places so you know…

      • katiebird, on October 22, 2012 at 10:02 pm said:

        I don’t know. It is a question. There are people suffering due to those sanctions. And it doesn’t seem to affect their leaders at all.

  75. riverdaughter, on October 22, 2012 at 9:57 pm said:

    Oh, who the fuck cares about a nuclear Iran? They’re never going to be able to use any nuclear weapons. We’d turn them into a cinder. It’s called assured destruction, there is nothing mutual about it.

  76. riverdaughter, on October 22, 2012 at 9:58 pm said:

    My drones are nothing like the missiles from Hamas.

  77. deja_vu, on October 22, 2012 at 9:58 pm said:

    Oh, Obama “travels”, to Israel and so forth. Like a cruise.

  78. riverdaughter, on October 22, 2012 at 9:59 pm said:

    Well, Hillary is the one supporting women’s rights.
    As a matter of fact, she’s responsible for most of the fence mending.

  79. riverdaughter, on October 22, 2012 at 10:02 pm said:

    Obama could be scoring points but he’s doing that dweebish Dukakis thing again. “Frankly, I’m, uhhhh, outraged”

  80. riverdaughter, on October 22, 2012 at 10:03 pm said:

    His speaking style isn’t punchy and tight enough. I’ve already lost the point of this story.
    Oh, ok, he’s strutting his bin Laden kill- ineffectively. Very ineffectively.
    Is he done yet?

  81. deja_vu, on October 22, 2012 at 10:03 pm said:

    Really, “moving heaven and earth to kill Osama ” AND not ask for permission from Pakistan to do it? I am all WTF???

  82. riverdaughter, on October 22, 2012 at 10:04 pm said:

    I can’t stand it anymore!

  83. riverdaughter, on October 22, 2012 at 10:05 pm said:

    We’re going to pull troops out of Iraq and Afghanistan annnnnd put them in Pakistan! They have more nuclear warheads!

  84. riverdaughter, on October 22, 2012 at 10:06 pm said:

    See? New war. You guys at Halliburton can relax.

  85. riverdaughter, on October 22, 2012 at 10:07 pm said:

    Oh, god, Obama tells another story.
    Please make it stop.
    Story. “I killed bin Laden!” Non-sequiter “Did I mention I killed bin laden who killed 3000 of us?”

  86. riverdaughter, on October 22, 2012 at 10:08 pm said:

    Look I have nothing against veterans but the scientists need jobs. Seriously.
    Oh, great, veterans are better employed. Well, that makes me feel good.

  87. gardenereric2012, on October 22, 2012 at 10:09 pm said:

    Like you know who said ,…Bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran, come on Mittster even if we did , atlest I havent heard from anyone in the upper military ranks specifically say we would be able to destroy the enrichment facillities in Iran

  88. katiebird, on October 22, 2012 at 10:10 pm said:

    I am so bored, if it wasn’t for the live blogging, I’d be snoring by now.

  89. riverdaughter, on October 22, 2012 at 10:11 pm said:

    Romney likes drones. Obama likes drones.
    I’m voting third party.

  90. deja_vu, on October 22, 2012 at 10:13 pm said:

    Both of the candidates are unispiring and not connecting with the electorate. Bob Schieffer is working to bring out substance and there’s nothing but rhetoric. Those who tune into the streamed debate between the Green, Libertarian, Justice and Constutional parties tomorrow will see a debate of substance. Because of, or in spite of, Larry King moderating.

  91. riverdaughter, on October 22, 2012 at 10:17 pm said:

    Wait, now you want to up research in this country AFTER you insult those of us who are the best trained scientific workforce the world has ever seen.
    uh-huh

  92. gardenereric2012, on October 22, 2012 at 10:19 pm said:

    Very interesting that Mittster has suddenly found so much in common with how he would do so many similar things like drone usage with the POTUS

    • riverdaughter, on October 22, 2012 at 10:20 pm said:

      Drones are like land mines. No one should be able to use them. War needs to be personally expensive so that no one abuses power.

  93. riverdaughter, on October 22, 2012 at 10:20 pm said:

    And do you know why China can steal our intellectual property?? It’s because the corporate IT departments refuse to replace IE 4.
    Just sayin’

  94. riverdaughter, on October 22, 2012 at 10:21 pm said:

    Wait a minute. Didn’t Obama appoint chemical company scion Jon Huntsman as ambassador to China so he could negotiate our jobs away seamlessly?

  95. riverdaughter, on October 22, 2012 at 10:22 pm said:

    Clean energy technology is only the tip of the iceberg. Just wait until there’s a drug resistant superbug and no antibiotic.

  96. riverdaughter, on October 22, 2012 at 10:23 pm said:

    It’s my little deuce coupe!

  97. riverdaughter, on October 22, 2012 at 10:24 pm said:

    Only 6 minutes more of this torment.

  98. riverdaughter, on October 22, 2012 at 10:24 pm said:

    Mitt on the defensive.
    Not that it matters. Obama failed to inspire.

  99. riverdaughter, on October 22, 2012 at 10:26 pm said:

    Oh, hurry…hurry!

  100. gardenereric2012, on October 22, 2012 at 10:26 pm said:

    Bring jobs back from China, I have seen so much manufacturing go out N. Carolina its unreal

  101. riverdaughter, on October 22, 2012 at 10:27 pm said:

    Hey, maybe you should have thought about rescuing the research industry before you stiffed us for four years and we lost over 100,000 jobs and decimated NJ.

  102. riverdaughter, on October 22, 2012 at 10:28 pm said:

    Did OBAMA champion American research and industry?? No, he did not. Over and over again he has told us how badly educated we are.
    Insults do not happy researchers make.

  103. riverdaughter, on October 22, 2012 at 10:30 pm said:

    [SOMKEY]
    We’re out of gas three miles from Philly,

    [ROCKY]
    The night is warm, the sky’s a dilly,

    [ALL]
    Yeah? Yeah?

    So I suggest we sleep beneath a tree

    [ROCKY]
    Four minds with a single thought

    [SMOKEY]
    I look at my girl,

    [ROCKY]
    I look at mine

    [SMOKEY]
    Then with one fell swoop-

    [ALL]
    But then they thought about the game!
    The game, the game!

  104. riverdaughter, on October 22, 2012 at 10:30 pm said:

    Four years of inaction doesn’t cut it with me. This debate did not change my mind at all.

  105. kitchens, on October 22, 2012 at 10:31 pm said:

    is this overtime??

  106. gardenereric2012, on October 22, 2012 at 10:33 pm said:

    Actually yes Im not sure what stges theyre working on but a few are Santa rosa, Phizer of coarse, Summit Corp. they are out there. The tricky part is being able to head off a major outbreak before it becomes resistant like you mentioned prior in your blog.

  107. gardenereric2012, on October 22, 2012 at 10:36 pm said:

    Mitt says please believe …really I can do this , I can make it work , Ill pay you to believe me I just wanna be President man

  108. gardenereric2012, on October 22, 2012 at 10:37 pm said:

    My Lord Theyre both killin me

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