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Oh, Brother

The bro comes home.  (yeah, yeah, I know it’s Fox but in this rare case, it happens to be accurate. The footage has not been digitally retouched):

Check it out here.



Some of the comments I’m reading are encouraging readers to jump on the “Let’s pin the Benghazi disaster on Obama right before the election!” bandwagon.  Nah gunna do it.  Here’s why:

1.) It has been our policy here at The Confluence since 2008 to not propagate either party’s memes or propaganda.

2.) In this case, it would be disrespectful of the four embassy staff who died there to cynically use their deaths as a way to score political points.  I’d rather keep the investigation free of electoral politics.  There *is* a story there and people should be held accountable if they neglectfully or knowingly ignored warnings that put these people in danger but we must weigh this against the diplomatic mission and the current events and developing situation in Libya.  That will require a thoughtful investigation so that the State department and the CIA benefit from learning what went wrong and who spilled the beans, etc.  It will NOT benefit from a cynical election year ploy to undermine the State department and foreign policy in order to disgrace Obama.  Let him take himself down, he seems to be doing a pretty good job of it without any assistance.

3.) Hillary Clinton is a big girl.  Yes, she is.  This is her job.  Let her do it.  If she gets called to Capital Hill to testify, she can handle it.  The Republicans have inadvertently screwed themselves here.  She’s a seasoned veteran of cynical, hypocritical, politically motivated investigations.  I hope they won’t call her up before the investigation is complete but even if the House Republicans rush her, I feel confident that she will do her homework and do the best that she can.  Let’s not undermine her mojo by trying to protect her.  We overcome sexism and misogynism by taking on challenges and rising to the occasion.

4.) We let Bush get away with a lot of really nasty s%^&.  He started an unnecessary war in Iraq based on lies, he and his party drained the Treasury to reward their contractor cronies, they increased the deficit, refused to “cut and run” (it doesn’t get more cynical than THAT phrase) and the whole fiasco has destabilized part of asia and cost thousands of military servicepeople their lives and limbs.  If you weren’t upset by all that by demanding accountability from Cheney and Bush but you’re getting your knickers in a twist over Benghazi, then you have your priorities seriously messed up.  You need to do some soul searching.

The foreign policy debate is coming up between Romney and Obama and I suspect that much will be made of Benghazi.  Or not.  I think this could backfire on the Republicans because there is a way for Obama and the Democrats to go on the offensive here that might win them back a bunch of Clintonistas.  It would require Obama to fake passion about something.  And that’s the problem.  He’s not a passionate guy and he doesn’t appear to believe in much of anything so any attempt at passion will look forced.  I dunno, maybe one of the debate prep team members will slap him around and knock some sense into him.  We’ll see.  But if they’ve been paying attention, they will know what to do.  This could be the Republicans third rail if they’re not careful.

25 Responses

  1. Riverdaughter, that’s great.
    So, did your great, great grandfather cultivate the avacado?
    That sounds dirty.

    • No idea. He might have started a chemical company. Or created the 501 buttonfly jean. Or founded a business school at Stanford.
      Supposedly, our family has some connection to Pennsylvania oil money. My grandfather’s uncle wanted to assume guardianship over my grandfather when he was about 12 when his mother died and his father abandoned him. The uncle came from money but my grandfather chose to stay with his poor Irish grandparents instead. All very mysterious.
      Anyway, never leave it to a traumatized 12 year old to make decisions that will affect his descendants. He was a good guy but he probably should have gone with uncle Walter for a variety of reasons.

      • Interesting stuff; have you been tempted to do the Ancestors.com thing?
        Big congrats on your brother’s safe return.

        • I’ve looked into it but there’s very, very little in the public records. Many of my older relatives were born at home. The best off among them were barbers, hotel owners (in England) and grocers. (Very hobbitish) The others were working class steelworkers or had some other working class job. Like a lot of poor people throughout the millennia, they didn’t leave much of a footprint on history.

        • Amen on the safe return (my son made it back [again] last week ).

  2. OMG!!! My cold must have been much worse than I thought! It took me to now to figure out that the video is of YOUR Brother! I know, idiotic.

    Riverdaughter — this is so cool! Thank you for sharing it with us. xxoo

    PS, I have to wonder if there is really a relationship between FOX News and the local FOX stations. Our local Fox station has the best coverage of local news (more & better reporters for one thing) Also. Fringe.

    (Still really excited for you and your family!)

    • Your niece — so cool watching her expression change!!!

    • I will offer the pure guess that local Fox stations are affiliated with Mothership Fox in the same way that local ABC/NBC/CBS stations are affiliated with Motherships ABC/NBC/CBS . . . . part of the Network.

  3. Since you bring up Benghazi here, I’ll just make a few remarks: (1) Far from supposing we can all rest assured that there’s an investigation, it should be noted that there might not even have been any investigation. The Senate voted down the idea, so it was clearly not a given. It cannot be assumed the existing investigation will be free of obstruction. (2) Most importantly: It may seem opportunistic, being close to an election, but it must be remembered that the event happened at a time close to the election, and further, perhaps Obama would not have acted as he did had it not been close to the election (e.g.,allowing the video story, not meeting with journalists to answer questions on it ). So it’s not obviously correct to interpret Benghazigate as political opportunism by Republicans because of the proximity to the election. The troubling handling of the event by the WH very likely would not have even occurred, were it not close to an election. (3) Finally, the state dept. put out the following before the first hearing: http://www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/ps/2012/10/198791.htm#.UHmUMQQjpX0.twitter

    • How long did it take before 9/11 was investigated? How long did it take before the results of that investigation were published?
      If the Republicans want to investigate Benghazi, let them wait until after the election. They didn’t sacrifice one of their own after the worst terrorist attack on US soil in history. They didn’t speed up the timetable.
      There ARE other things to discuss this year. Unemployment is the number one issue on my list and so far, I’ve heard almost nothing. So, if I were the Republicans I would think long and hard about pushing for some Paula Jones type special prosecutor and years of hearings over Benghazi.
      I don’t like Obama any more than you do but I want things to play out without any time wasting shenanigans.

      • I think you’re missing the scale on this one, RD. It’s not only a major security screw-up, but there was also a clumsy coverup on the international stage. Also, it points directly to a president who skipped more than half his intelligence briefings – including the one on the morning following the disaster, when he was en route to Las Vegas for fundraising.

        The dereliction of duty is egregious. This is a much, much bigger thing than Watergate.

        • No, Watergate was at least an order of magnitude bigger. A Constitutional crisis, really, altho since then the Constitution has been so badly beaten it’s hardly recognizable. You have to have been there to understand the scope. It was a third rate burglary elevated to a national debacle by a vindictive madman in the presidency and a whole lot of creepy looking worms spilled out of the can the hearings opened.

          I look at the latest mess, that we know of, as inevitable. This is just more of Chalmer Johnson’s sorrows of empire, blowback. Every empire has the same trajectory. Only the timeline changes. We’re late stage empire, shit happens. It’s all huzzahs and God’s Chosen Nation on the way up and all shit happens on the way down. Johnson made the comment: “a nation can be one or the other, a democracy or an imperialist, but it can’t be both.”

        • I don’t see it that way, Maria. The assault was not just a bunch of rioters. It was more like a pitched battle. The attackers knew that the CIA was there. There’s something about this that’s very suspicious. I would like to know how it happened too but it doesn’t rise to the level of 9/11 or Watergate as CB says or even the drones. I think the drones are much more evil. Why aren’t you upset about them??
          In any case, the purpose of this blog is not to carry water for the Republicans and whatever hysterical overblown distraction they intend to cook up. It’s also not a place where Democratic operatives are welcome. We don’t allow this blog to be used by either party to carry on their election year shenanigans. We don’t let them propagate lies or gin up mob mentality.
          There are a lot of things Obama is guilty of and a lot of areas of the government that he has neglected. But I want to keep my mind open about this incident and I will not be pressured to jump on the bandwagon just because I don’t like Obama. It’s time for cooler heads to prevail and get to the bottom of it in a rigorous and analytical way. Then, let the chips fall where they may.

  4. I’m watching the big jump.

  5. Jeez, I can’t believe that Chief Warrant Officer once used to ride on the handlebars of my bike. He’d warp the frame now.

  6. RD,

    Glad to read of your brother safely coming back.

  7. Congratulations on your brother’s safe return. Hopefully the Afghan war effort gets wound down to zero before he or anyone else is (re)deployed there all over again.

  8. About an hour ago, from CNN: ‘Secretary of State Hillary Clinton told CNN Monday evening after landing in Peru for a visit that “I take responsibility” for the security situation ahead of last month’s attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi, Libya, according to CNN. The attack left four Americans dead, including the U.S. ambassador to Libya, Chris Stevens. In the interview, she insisted that neither President Obama nor Vice President Biden had been involved in security decisions related to the consulate, according to CNN. She told the network that her focus “now is to make sure such an attack will never happens again – but also the diplomacy, even in dangerous areas like Benghazi, is not stopped,” CNN reports.’ Huh.

  9. Hillary to the Supreme Court? There’s something more going on here, but we won’t know until the other shoe drops–which may not happen in public view. (I still wonder what Ruth Ann Minner got for appointing Ted Kaufman to Biden’s unexpired Senate seat. Rumor was she had other druthers.)

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