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Monday: Bubba and Baruch

A recent Esquire interview with Bill Clinton didn’t get as much attention in the blogosphere as I might have expected, or maybe I missed it.  But it’s a fascinating article in many respects.  For one thing, Bill Clinton still has it, that damnable facility with language that drives his enemies and detractors to distraction.  Nevertheless, for all of his political skills, which are formidable, there seems to be a blind spot where Republicans are concerned or maybe he sees the lengths that others are willing to go but he’s made up his mind not to go there.  The conversation he had with one of his impeachment foes, former Representative Bob Inglis, is an example of this:

So he came to me and he said, “I just want you to know, when you got elected, I hated you. And I asked to be on the Judiciary Committee in 1993, because a bunch of us had already made up our minds that no matter what you did or didn’t do, we were going to find some way to impeach you. We hated you. You had no right to be president.” And he said, “That’s wrong.” And he said, “I’m sorry.” And he now meets with a group in South Carolina with a woman he once defeated, Liz Patterson. Very commendable thing.

In one sense, he was blindsided by this irrational hatred from the Republicans when he first came into office.  Maybe that’s the problem.  Bill, the politician, can handle rational behavior, the pulls of different ideologies.  He gets that kind of hardball politics.  It’s the meaningless, destructive, selfish kind of politics that elude him, the tearing down just because you can.  Call me naive but I kinda like that in my politician.

There’s a lot to still like about Bill.  Some of his ideas about work shows that he’s still learning and there is still an openness about where the future can take us in the area of workplace flexibility.  I am in complete agreement that we should adopt the military’s method of teaching people new skills every couple of years.  I know this helped me quite a bit when I went back into the lab for my last year of work.  I relearned how to do experiments hands on, learned an entirely new but related area of study and best of all, was able to add my previous experience to my new experience.  The result was greater than the sum of the parts, especially because I had the added advantage of working on the same protein in a different capacity.  It was a revelation to me, renewed my interest in science, and triggered something in my brain that we think we lose when we get older.  I can tell you with absolute certainty that this is not true.  So, my advice to employers is not to write off people who have been in the same job for years.  Change it up, if they are willing.  You’ll be encouraging flexibility and building a knowledge pool of expertise.  In fact, I would predict that your chances of hitting on something truly innovative will be increased.  Of course, this should be encouraged and not forced.

Bill has something to say about the Occupy movement as well.  He’s for it.  But he also says that the occupiers should come up with 3-4 statements or demands.  Now, I know that other people have made this kind of suggestion before and I agree that it’s somewhat premature to be asking this of Occupy.  But let’s consider this suggestions from Bill’s point of view.

In my humble opinion, Bill and Hillary Clinton have a very well developed worldview.  You may not *like* that worldview or find that it doesn’t gel with your concept of what a politician is or should be or whatever.  But this worldview is internally consistent.  That is, the Clinton’s have a philosophy about how the world operates and what it takes to meet your goals.  Their approach to politics and policy is based on this worldview.  A glimpse of this can be seen in Hillary’s book “It Takes a Village”.  If you believe that the community you construct has the biggest impact on a child’s life, your policies will reflect that as well as the approach you take to dealing with members of that community.  That worldview was also evident in their approach to healthcare in the early 90s.  Back then, health insurance was a problem but we saw it from a personal point of view.  Cost and access were the problems.  I think the Clintons saw it differently.  If you have a well developed worldview of how people, business and politics work, it isn’t difficult to project into the future and see that the costs of health care were unsustainable and would eventually have a severe impact on business.

It was a glimpse of this worldview at Hillary’s breakout session at YearlyKos2 in 2007 that I found so appealing.  This internal consistency and study allowed Hillary to define the problem and develop policies to address this problem and stay within this worldview.  This is their biggest strength. I think this is also the Clintons’ weakness because it relies on rationality and clearly defined goals and the Republicans introduced a measure of senselessness into that worldview.

I’m not sure how to derail the Republicans and make them see reason but if you have a worldview, you must find a way to put that senselessness and selfishness in its proper place and learn how to incorporate it.  Capitulating to it in the hopes that you will be able to reason with it clearly didn’t work in 2008.  I think the Clintons keep learning.  They aren’t perfect but they’ve been working on this stuff for a long time.

Now, what does this have to do with Occupy?  Occupy has a great starting point.  How do you address income and social inequality and make life more rewarding for the 99%?  Without a consistent worldview your demands may end up looking like a laundry list of various complaints that don’t relate to one another.  They will be easy to shoot down.  Your spokespeople won’t know how to defend them.  I looked at Occupy Science’s facebook page a couple of weeks ago and despaired.  The participants were in full react mode without bothering to find out how modern science research and business work.  Without that knowledge base, you can not make sensible demands or craft good policy.  It’s not enough to be angry and act like an injured party.  You need to understand the nature of the problem.  This does not mean all of the complexity.  It simply means, how do the components relate to each other so that you know which buttons to push to get the desired endpoint.  That goes for all of the other important issues as well.

What is your worldview?  In your world, what are the things that relate to one another?  How do you account for human nature?  What are the things that make people do good?  How do you encourage people to do those things?  What is valuable?  What is democratic?  Is democracy even a desired endpoint?  I hope it is but have we thought about this problem thoroughly to convince ourselves that this is true? What are our premises?  What do we have to work with? What is the role of business, government, religion, ethics, nature?  It’s a very philosophical problem and it takes most people a lifetime to figure this out.  The problem is, we don’t have a lifetime.  We have only a few months.  Therefore, we may have to borrow someone else’s starting point.

Who might we call on?  One possibility is Baruch Spinoza, the 17th century Dutch Jewish philosopher who had a very well developed worldview.  Unlike other philosophers who tackled one weighty question at a time, Spinoza had a comprehensive worldview that melded human nature, ethics, psychology, politics and theology and he did it at a time in history when all of these things were in conflict with each other.  There are some parallels between Spinoza’s Europe and our modern day that make him a pretty good starting point.  In fact, the other philosophers of the enlightenment drew heavily from Spinoza’s works.  Was he perfect?  No.  Some of his ideas are limited by the examples he had on hand.  There was no American revolution and the ideas of Adams, Jefferson and Franklin.  And yet, our founding fathers incorporated Spinoza’s ideas into our country’s working documents.

When I was taking philosophy courses decades ago, we read Decartes and Hume and Kant but skipped over Spinoza.  There’s really no satisfactory answer for why this is except that Spinoza was a radical enlightenment thinker whose unconventional view of god might have scared conventional philosophers away.   But if you’re looking for a starting place to base your demands, you could do worse than adopt Spinoza’s method of constructing an internally consistent worldview that incorporates nature, politics and man.

For more information about Spinoza, there are a couple of youtube videos that might be useful. For a lite overview of Spinoza, try this In Our Time podcast. I like this kind of thing but it might not be your cup of tea.  This two hour discussion of Spinoza is particularly juicy:

Don’t be put off by the moderator.  He’s the only one who talks in this hesitant style.  The other panelists are more fluid.

16 Responses

  1. It’s sad that the irrational hatred the Republicans were brainwashed into having for Clinton was so easily transferred over to the “hope and change” crowd of phony “progressives” who became the Obamabots.

    Mindless sheep exist on both the left and the right. They are exploited over and over again by our MOTU.

  2. spot on RD. :thumbsup:

  3. You’ve really hit a nerve for me with this post. First, Spinoza is one of my favorite philosophers. And second, this

    Without a consistent worldview your demands may end up looking like a laundry list of various complaints that don’t relate to one another. They will be easy to shoot down.

    has been something that’s bothered me right from the start. I’ve been Re-imagining Democracy since forever and even think I could help on that score. Or maybe not. But the disturbing thing about Occupy is that I don’t get the sense from the movement that there’s any widespread recognition that without a compass in new territory, you’re lost.

    • I get the feeling that there *is* some recognition of the problem from the first statement they put out but I don’t know how much they have been working on this during the winter. But if they want to turn this movement into something with teeth, they’ve got to present a worldview that people can latch onto. This is the biggest problem for Democrats because they seem to have abandoned the idea. And this is where the Republicans are beating our ass. They have a worldview. It’s got a biblical component. It’s an authoritarian structure and it works for them even if it leaves the vast majority of people out in the cold. That’s what people respond to when they vote for Republicand. That’s why David brooks writes stupid essays about the number of children being born out of wedlock. That’s why Komen ruined its brand. It’s because the world they exist in depends on this strict moral code. We need to fix this ASAP. Because the Republicans will go into November with a whole package and the only thing Democrats have is “we’re not Republicans” and voters will say, “ok, then what are you?”.
      I don’t know, maybe clearing the Democrats from the political scene will make room for the formation of a new worldview but Republicans are bastards and you can be sure that they have already anticipated this outcome. They will make it very hard to get rid of them if they are in charge again.
      Therefore, the one demand that I think OWS needs to make right not is a verifiable paper ballot. It’s an immediate need and will speak volumes if it is opposed. I don’t feel comfortable voting on an electronic voting machine anymore. So, do we have the power to make our own election rules or don’t we? Shouldn’t we find out?

      • Yes, yes, yes, and yes. It’s absolutely the central issue. It’s not even had to find a slogan for it. “Freedom and Fairness” would just about sum it up, wouldn’t it?

        And the regressives, with their “Sex is Icky” platform, alternating with “Money to the Millionaires,” would just stand there with a mouth full of teeth.

        Right now, as you say, their attraction is in having a message, any message. But if there were a better message out there, it’s all over for them.

      • Truth In Voting.

        Legal Paper Ballot.

  4. Re Spinoza: anyone who gets excommunicated (for advocating freedom of thought) by the Protestants, Catholics, and Jews is bound to be a worthy thinker.

    • I think he was excommunicated from the synagogue because he kept saying that the bibe was just literature and not divinely inspired. The rabbis asked him politely to stop saying that but he wouldn’t. So they made him an apostate and kicked him out.
      He was right, of course.

      • I think of the Scriptures as divinely inspired in sections, but not divinely spoken or written. Hence, there is room for human error to creep in, with sometimes horrific results.

  5. That the republicans hated Bill gutz is a given what was really wrong is the way the print and broadcast media savaged him and Hillary. They transferred that hatred to Al Gore in 2000.

    Now Tweety Matthews is as much to blame for the republican resurgence as the pathetic performance of Obama. Pelosi, and Reid.

  6. me too. 🙂

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