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Thursday: Pete and RePete

I’m stealing this comment from reader tle.  This is for all of the people who are, once again, shoving Obama down our throats without asking him to make ANY adjustments to his method of governance (if it can even be called that):

I don’t really perceive the repug leadership as weaker than the Chitown dems. I see two possible scenarios:
1) Mitt Romney is going to be their candidate, but they are allowing the TP folks to blow off some steam and pretend they have a say in the eventual outcome. The leadership wins here because Romney has a shot at winning, and the TP will vote as they are told, just as their “revolutionary” congress critters have done.
2) The repug leadership is intent on keeping their lap dog in the WH for another four years, in which case they will allow one of the morons to run an under-funded campaign. The moron loses, the TP folks STFU and fall back in line, bowing once again to their “betters.” If their use for the Tea Party is done, this is the smarter option.

I don’t think Hillary Clinton is interested in running this time around (and probably never again). If she was, I’d support her in a heartbeat. Since she’s not, I’ll just be voting third party again — ANY third party that appears on our ballots. I don’t even care which one, since 99% of my fellow citizens will once again be choosing between two crappy candidates and telling themselves they are making an informed decision of great import. At least I know my vote won’t make any difference.

You know who you are.  We know you read us.  You’re either leading the narrative of “OMG! If Obama loses, the Republicans will ruin us all!”, or you’re fine tuned to respond to that message.  What you are asking us to accept is a repeat of the last four years where Obama will pretend to defend the middle class and then, just go along with the Republicans anyway.  You’re asking us to accept more long term unemployment, more erosion of our infrastructure, and the mentality that is becoming fixed that Americans should stop resisting globalization.  Just give into the corporate overlords, give up your pensions and get with the program of neofeudalism.  That’s what you’re asking.

If that’s NOT what you’re asking, then you have an obligation to the rest of us to demonstrate *now* how four more years of Obama is going to make our situation better.  Here are things you are no longer allowed to do to make your argument: 1.) you are no longer allowed to smear the Clintons.  Bill Clinton did not ruin the Democratic party.  I was a Democrat until 2008.  It was Obama that ruined the party.  Stop doing this.  You are making yourselves less credible every time you open your mouths to say it.  It is becoming ineffective and tiresome and those of us who were there in the 1990’s think you’re full of shit.  Every time you blame Clinton for the failure of the Democratic party to get its act together, you make another independent.  2.) Stop acting like this is a binary choice.  The 2012 election is between the Republican nominee and Obama only in the minds of the party operatives.  This shows a lack of imagination and a heavy dose of malevolence.  If you can’t think of a better Democrat than Obama, you’re not trying hard enough.  In fact, if you can’t even suggest an alternate Democrat, I consider you the enemy as much as any Republican.  3.) Stop using fear.  Just stop.

If you can’t think of a way that Obama is going to make our lives substantially better by, oh, I don’t know, proposing policies that actually work or using his veto pen or talking in sentences without a dozen propositional phrases, then drop him.  If you can’t drop him, I am tuning you out.  I’ve noticed that the “Clinton was an evil president who triangulated” crap is cropping up everywhere with increasing desperation.  And what does triangulated mean?  It means whatever the speaker wants it to mean.  It is a catchall word that has nefarious undertones when the original meaning was just a fancy word for political jujitsu against your opponents.  That’s all it means.  It doesn’t mean you agree with your enemies and are planning to roll out soft fascism and a road to perdition.  THAT is an Obama specialty.

So, to recap: if you are proposing to ram Obama into the White House against our objections again, you are actually asking for 4 more years of ineffectual leadership from a guy who is nothing better than a moderate Republican disguising himself as a Democrat and you condemn the rest of the country to four years of a moderate Republican negotiating with what might be a Republican Congress.

I’m not sure who is making the Hillary in 2012 robocalls but the fact that so many party operatives are freaked out by them says a lot about the mood of the electorate right now.  We don’t want Pete OR RePete.  We’re sick of it, we’re sick of you and we’re sick of the unity pony you road to town on.


Other things:

Joe Cannon thinks I don’t like him.  This is not true.

I don’t know what’s going on in Myiq’s head but I don’t like what I see.  Is he a Republican troll?  Don’t know.  Is he catering to the Tea Party crowd for a bigger audience?  Sure looks like it.  You can draw your own conclusions from that.

I do happen to agree with Joe Cannon that the Tea Party people need to be taken down a notch.  They’re very misguided and confused.  I don’t want to say they’re stupid because I don’t believe that.  But I will say that they are more prone than geeky types to respond to emotional  manipulation and appeals to the worms that lurk in their mental mud.  It especially pisses me off that many Tea Party folks have no idea what it’s like to work a full time job and yet have the audacity to cast aspersions on those of us who are unemployed for the first time in our lives after decades of hard work in challenging professions.  The first one that pops off that shit in my presence is going to be choking back teeth.  I’m generally in favor of non-violence but I won’t put up with that crap from anyone.

Fortunately, myiq has taken most of those clueless and insensitive assholes with him to the Crawdad Hole.  For that, I will be forever grateful.


Newt Gingrich sees mortal threat in Sharia law??  What about crazy American fundamentalists?  Didja ever think of that?  American Christians fundamentalists are notoriously unhinged.  Take this paragraph from Gingrich’s “Oooo!  Muslim Boogeymen Speech” and rewrite it:

“Stealth jihadis use political, cultural, societal, religious, intellectual tools; violent jihadis use violence,” Mr. Gingrich said in the speech. “But in fact they’re both engaged in jihad, and they’re both seeking to impose the same end state, which is to replace Western civilization with a radical imposition of Shariah.”

to read:

“Stealth fundamentalist Christians use political, cultural, societal, religious, intellectual tools; violent fundamentalist Christians use violence,” Mr. Gingrich said in the speech. “But in fact they’re both engaged in fundamentalist religious warfare, and they’re both seeking to impose the same end state, which is to replace Western civilization with a radical imposition of fundamentalist interpretation of Old Testament law.”

Yeah, that sounds about right.  The whole world knows our country is at the mercy of these nutjobs that Gingrich, Perry and Bachmann cater to.  Why doesn’t anyone ask them why they are pandering to a bunch of people whose vision is so firmly fixed on the next life they are certain they are going to and you’re not?  They’re so convinced that the next world is better than this one and that it is imminent, that they are willing to do absolutely nothing about addressing the evils of the world and everything they can to make those evils worse.  The logic, if you can call it that, is that if the world goes completely haywire and dangerous, Jesus is *certain* to come.  How is that substantially different from an Al Qaeda suicide bomber?  In fact, in some respects, it’s worse.  The suicide bomber can only take out people within his or her immediate radius.  Suicide bombers kill dozens of people but American Christian fundamentalists are willing to subject millions, even billions of people to lives of abject misery, poverty and pain all for the love of Jesus.

Note that I am not calling all Christians fundamentalists because that would be inaccurate and unfair.  But there’s nothing unfair about treating Christian fundamentalists as a much bigger threat to civilization than someone who presumably wants to institute Sharia law in this country.

What really irritates me about Gingrich’s screed against Sharia law is that his target audience doesn’t seem to be able to estimate the likelihood that a bunch of Muslims would have the numbers and wherewithal to actually impose it on the United States.  They’re launching a pre-emptive strike against Muslims in a war that doesn’t need to be fought.  American Muslims have better things to do with their time than go all Jihad on the rest of us.  They’ve got work in the morning, kids they have to chauffeur to soccer games, they have to go grocery shopping on weekends.  Who has time for co-erced religious conversions anymore?

Am I worried about Sharia law from Muslim Americans?  Nah, I’m more worried about the gullibility and fanaticism of the homegrown Christian fundamentalist nuts.  The people most likely to listen to Gingrich don’t know any Muslims, have never had to live near them or work for or with them.  They’re clueless.  But they do know plenty of fundamentalist Christians who think exactly like they do, which is that they are in siege mode against a world full of evil unbelievers.  Since I’ve known both varieties, I’d feel MUCH safer around a bunch of American Muslims any day.  American fundamentalist Christians are dangerous.


And now for something completely different.  Chriselle Lim is a stylist based in California.  Just last year, she started making styling videos for youtube.  I *love* her.  She has a wicked gift for taking one clothing item and styling it different ways so that you don’t even recognize it as the same thing.  You can literally wear the same item seven days in a row and no one will notice.  For those of us on teensy clothing budgets, her styling tips are a very welcome.  I’ll never look at my wardrobe the same way again.

Here’s one of her most current videos on how to wear a cowl neck sweater:

24 Responses

  1. Last night at my Solstice party I heard an “at least (Obama) is better than Gingrich”. When asked to specify “How exactly?” all I got was an emotional “Oh, come on! You are not going to vote for Gingrich?” “No”, I said. The very same way I am not voting for Obama. For absolutely the same reasons.

    • There may be just enough of us this time to sink Obama. Democrats should be asking themselves if this is a risk they are willing to take. Because I can’t be shamed, persuaded or forced to vote for either party candidate. As long as there is another choice on the ballot whose positions I can live with, I’m voting for that choice.
      What happened to Corzine in NJ can happen to Obama in 2012.

    • I am not going to vote for some third party candidate I do not feel should be president either. I will write in Hillary.
      These third party candidates are usually not ready for prime time in any way shape or form. Ralph Nader, puh-leeze…sigh

      • Believe it or not, there was a really good 3rd party candidate here in NJ in 2009 running for governor. His name was Chris Daggett. I have no problem voting for him over Corzine. Sometimes, good people do run.

        • yes, and I think it is more likely to happen for congress and the senate. It is just that president is a big job. It takes an extraordinary person to fill that job and they have to have the connections and the associates to fill the posts and jobs. Who would have been Nader’s allies in congress for instance and who would he hire for his staff? I just can not imagine it on a presidential level.

          • I didn’t vote for Nader and don’t really like him. I thought his run was very stupid.
            But these are different times. Who knows who is going to run for president. If we apply your high standards for the job, did Obama qualify? IMHO, he was about as qualified as any other joe who runs as obscure ballot filler. It was only because he managed to snag the D nomination that he had to be taken seriously.

      • Right now my inclination is to follow feresainpa’s path.

  2. I have a fantesy that Dean, Reid, Pelosi and Brazille would stand up and apologise to the public for their imposition of Obama on us in the 2008 election.

    I have a fantesy that they would at least admit it to themselves and open the Democratic primaries to opposition candidates. Of course like most fantasies, this is not going to happen. Instead, the electoral approach is that we must vote for him because the Republican choice will be so much worse. In other words vote for the lesser of two evils.

    In view of this I find myself in total agreement that all that is left to us uneducated, racist former Democrats is to vote for a third party candidate. I wonder if the Democratic party realizes that it is imploding.

    • We shouldn’t see the 2008 primary season as an aberration. It’s part of a series of thwarted elections. First there was Gore, then Kerry and then Hillary. Each time, the public was told they couldn’t have who they really wanted. I think the Republicans knew that they couldn’t directly get the White House in 2008 so they managed to help get Obama nominated knowing full well that he couldn’t withstand an onslaught. He’s everything they ever wished for. Why the heck would they want to get rid of him now? He’s going to ruin the Democratic brand for generations to come. He’s a gift that keeps on giving.

      • Kerry and Hillary sure but who would have replaced Gore, Dollar Bill Bradley? Please. Gore won the nomination fairly, over big money opposition I imagine. Hence he was taken down by the media.

        On 2012, you and myiq seem to agree about Obama being defeated. The difference being myiq is advocating for Republicans while you are advocating some 3rd party. Not that big a difference really with the current people running.

        There are an awful lot of former Democrats who don’t want to vote for Obama but are not about to vote for any of the current Republicans running. That includes me and I would like to see a 3rd party candidate run who has a chance to win.

        Buddy Roemer is apparently going to try for the Americans Elect slot. I hope he gets it because, if you look at where he stands, he would be a decent candidate with good positions on most issues.

        • Huh?? I voted for Gore. I never even considered another candidate. I thought he was pretty damn good.

          • Sorry I misunderstood. I thought you meant Gore had been chosen by TPTB over the voters. I think he was the last candidate the voters actually picked for themselves. Cool.

        • BTW, I wasn’t referring to you in my post. I’m thinking of people like Mary and Elliesmom.

      • Remember that the print and broadcast media had a huge influence on who made it into the White House in 2000, 2004, and 2008. Faux Spews isn’t the only enemy. Perhaps we should be spreading the advertisers boycott and canceling subscriptions to the major newspapers. This would include not clicking on their websites.

        As to congressional Democrats it’s stupid, cowardly, or on-the-take since before Bill Clinton and it hasn’t changed. It’s a tribute to his powers of persuasion and charisma that he accomplished as much as he did with republican and Back-stab-o-crats.

        I don’t know what I’m going to do next November as far as my vote and the only candidate that is getting any money is Elizabeth Warren.

    • I have a fantesy that Dean, Reid, Pelosi and Brazille would stand up and apologise to the public for their imposition of Obama on us in the 2008 election. 🙂

  3. I am afraid the Republicans really want Obama to be re-elected. That gives them the Congress and House where the real legislation is created and we are destroyed.

  4. 3.) Stop using fear. Just stop.

    Amen to that. I got into a stupid Twitter slap-fest with someone who basically said, “vote Obama, else the repubs will put two more right-wingers on the Supreme Court.” I’m still sore from 2008 and the last time I checked, in the metric of being 5-4 screwed versus 7-2 screwed, you’re still screwed. I refuse to be forced back into the duopoly. If the election were held today, I’d write in “None of the Above.”

    • I just listened to Virtually Speaking Susie and her guest whose name escapes me and they kept repeating, “The Democrats have to make their voters enthusiastic. All they need is enthusiasm.”
      Well, count me out. I saw the enthusiasm of the 2008 Obama campaign and look at what happened. Making people *feel* enthusiasm is not the same as protecting their livelihoods from predators foreign and domestic.
      What we need is not enthusiasm but some sobriety, not enabling but rehab.

  5. I used to be, “I’ll vote Democrat no matter who.” Not any more. Not since Al Gore, the last Democrat (not the closet Republicans we now have in Washington D.C.) who ran for president. I am a Democrat and believe in the old time values that the old Democrats fought for.
    I will write in Hillary Clinton or only vote down ticket. I am tired of Republicans whether they claim to be Democrats or Republicans.

  6. Ha! I thought to myself . . . I KNOW those toucans. Those are toco toucans. Was I right? Yes. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toco_Toucan
    Shame on me for showing off . . . I couldn’t help myself.

  7. It helps to weigh 110 pounds. She doesn’t mention that.

  8. I found a Lambert Strether comment over at NaCap which seems at least partway relevant here:

    Lambert Strether says:
    December 21, 2011 at 8:08 pm
    FWIW, my theory today on “What, they actually WANT President Obama for the next four years?” is a qualified Yes, for some definition of “they.” The Rs don’t, but the owners of both legacy parties are quite happy with Obama, despite some grouchiness for public consumption. Why wouldn’t they be?

    Plan B on the right, should opportunity present itself, would then be not the gang of second-raters and motor-mouthed retreads running as Rs — who knew the R bench was this weak? –but the new gaggle various of 1% front organizations like Americans Select (now on the ballot in CA), No Labels (yeah, right) and Ruck.us. (Plan C on the left would be Warren and plants like Van Jones.)

    It would be irresponsible not to speculate….

    NOTE This was true in 2008 as well. If you compare the McCain 2008 campaign with the vicious onslaught of the 2004 Bush campaign, you’ll see immediately that McCain was hardly trying, despite the fact (if facts mattered) that Obama was far more vulnerable to swiftboating than Kerry ever was, having virtually no resume, and, young though Obama is, a long trail of people he’d already thrown under the bus, who were all perfectly willing to talk…”

    • Strether’s last paragraph raises something I never thought of, namely that McCain deliberately threw the election to Obama, perhaps under orders from the High Masters? And that nominating Saraa Paylinn was part of the process of McCain’s throwing of the election?

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