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Compromising with Killers

UPDATE: See CannonFire and Corrente

[Grover] Norquist favors dramatically reducing the size of the government. He has been noted for his widely quoted quip: “I don’t want to abolish government. I simply want to reduce it to the size where I can drag it into the bathroom and drown it in the bathtub.”

I’ve always wondered what the voters who put guys like Norquist in power thought would happen.  But, now that they’re playing their games (largely) out in the open we’re all going to find out.

As Blue Lyon noted (quoting Digby):

Watching out for the humans in the equation

Let’s not forget who created the  Catfood Commission in the first place. Digby notes:

I’m guessing that the president likes having Ryan out there as someone he can “work with” on a Grand Bargain with everyone’s “skin in the game” (especially the tissue thin skin of millions of sick and impoverished elderly people who can’t work, apparently.) If it works out as well as the current budget negotiations have up to now, Ryan will only get 65% of what he wants and liberals will be required to call that a big victorybecause, golly gosh, we fought back the Ryan juggernaut.

Oh, yes,  “It Could Be So Much Worse!” will be the mantra of the 2012 Obama campaign.

Obama’s sweating out the “compromise” issue – like it makes any sense to compromise with killers.

And please don’t accuse me of exaggeration.  What is left out of the very serious conversations about the budget (and this is just one example) is that cutbacks to government services will result in people dying unnecessarily.

As Marc Rubin at Tom In Paine says,

Republicans do what Obama and Democrats had no guts to do — refuse to compromise

Contrast that with the capitulating and spine caving sell out by Barrack Obama to the small Republican minority on the country’s most important legislation even though Obama had the biggest congressional majority of any president in 60 years. Contrast that with Obama’s scrounging for one Republican vote on the public option when the Democrats didn’t need Republican votes at all, and then, not getting it, throwing the policy under the bus along with hundreds of millions of Americans who wanted real healthcare reform. Contrast Boehner refusal to compromise on principles with Obama caving in to Republicans on extending the Bush tax cuts for the wealthiest 5% of Americans, something Obama publicly stated since 2007 he would never do.

Republicans say they will not compromise or accept any options they don’t endorse as a matter of policy. Obama caved in on extending the Bush tax cuts for the wealthy then had the gall to accuse those Democrats who didn’t want to go along of being  “sanctimonious purists”. And this is who the Democrats are going to support for four more years?

(snip)

NOTE:  I just love when something happens that proves my point only hours after making it . On the floor of the U.S. senate at 6:32 p.m. in addressing the budget impasse Harry Reid said, ” On the budget cuts we agreed to meet the Republicans part of the way and they said no. Then we agreed to meet the Republicans half way and they said no. They we agreed to meet the Republicans more than half way and they said no. They we agreed to meet the Republicans all the way and they still said no.”

That’s giving ’em hell Harry.

It’s all a game to these guys.

4 Responses

  1. that says it all..good post kb. 🙂

  2. Self serving but 2 clips on Clinton 2012 are at my site. The speaker is a teacher in no. cal and union activist.

    http://johnwsmart.wordpress.com/2011/04/06/morning-viewing/

    http://johnwsmart.wordpress.com/2011/04/07/brian-crowells-2nd-video/

    his name is Brian Crowell. He’s an unreconstructed PUMA. And smart. and committed. We have hope.

  3. Tom was right to make it a contrast between Boehner, supported and even pushed by an ideologically unified and committed party, and Obama, forced to rely on a bunch of squishes and half-traitors who need to be reassured by him, once in a while, that he’s not really a liberal.

    This difference between the two sets of congress-people reflects a like difference between the two sets of self-identified party members.

    Recent polls have confirmed what has been true for a long time, that the Republicans are more ideologically uniform and committed than the Democrats.

    The former mostly oppose compromise and support conservative positions.

    The latter mostly want compromise and consensus and are more centrist than liberal.

    The independents, of course, are just stupid and more worried about whether Obama has a birth certificate than whether Granny will be able to pay for her groceries or her meds.

    Obama is a corporate ass-kissing skunk?

    Sure.

    What else would his party support or his country elect?

  4. Btw, you are right to insist people will actually die because of this.

    But America doesn’t know or doesn’t care.

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