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Walking Backwards: Health Care

As the House moves closer to “repealing” last year’s health-insurance bill, President Obama is deeply concerned about moving backwards on health care (confusing a pretty serious issue) :

With the Republican-controlled House of Representatives slated to pass a bill Wednesday night repealing the sweeping health care overhaul, President Barack Obama fired a warning shot to his adversaries.

“Today, the American people have greater health security than they did a year ago,” Obama said in a prepared statement. “Because of the Affordable Care Act, Americans no longer have to live in fear that insurance companies will drop or cap their coverage if they get sick, or that they’ll face double-digit premium increases with no accountability or recourse.”

The president touted its other benefits, such as the small-business tax credits and the ability to stay on a parent’s insurance plan until 26, and invoked a report by the nonpartisan Congressional Budget that said it will reduce the deficit by more than a trillion dollars over the next twenty years.

Americans no longer have to live in fear that insurance companies will drop or cap their coverage if they get sick, or that they’ll face double-digit premium increases with no accountability or recourse.

Of course we know that accountability and recourse don’t pay the bills or do the surgery.  But, it’s nice if the President thinks so.

Depending on how I’m thinking, this is either a silly or a tragic issue.  Silly because no one thinks the piece of shit health-insurance bill will be repealed.  Serious?  Because we’ve got a piece of shit bill that isn’t going to be replaced with something good any time soon.


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  1. Didn’t a bunch of insurers increase premiums in response to the bill? I suppose this move will bring about more increases to cover the additional lobbying expenses this *fight* would generate.

    • My premiums went up by double digits after Obamacare passed. My insurance company sent me a letter explaining the increase was directly a result of the new health care law. The new premium goes into effect next month.

      • my partner and I pay more for health insurance for us and our 2 kids than we do for our mortgage

        wouldn’t I love to be saving some of that money for retirement

        • We’re spending 1/4 of our take-home pay on health insurance premiums. I really hoped we’d do something serious about it but, nooooo.

          As Carolyn says below, it’s pretty obvious that Democrats don’t believe in anything we need.

      • Our costs didn’t go up in premiums but our coverage was changed so that we pay more in deductibles and co-pays.

      • I got the letter raising my health ins costs by double digits too. They explained that recent changes have caused increase in costs. This is after an automatic raise every year for increase in age.
        I never even use the insurance, luckily, but still rates only go UP.

        • Yeah, I only my insurance (thank God) for my annual gyno exam & mammogram. Of course, with Stupak, all that is “extra” anyway. Still the rates go up.

      • I have a “cadillac plan”, meaning I have the level of coverage that everyone should have. So of course my costs are going up, my care is being scaled back, and there’s that whole tax thing. Yay!

    • We pay more ($900/month) for Medicare and our Supplemental insurance than we paid as young people with 2 kids on our company “Cadillac” plan.

      You know what else has changed? Care….we see Physician Assistants now and get all shoots through our local Walgreen’s.

      Premiums go up. Care goes down. What a system!!!

  2. One would think that if the Dems really wanted to keep it they’d pull all the cr@p out of it and keep the good stuff

  3. Not so silly.

    If only Democrats had proposed and proposed and proposed legislation they knew had no chance of passing, but that showed what they believe in.

    We can only assume they don’t believe in anything. Republicans do, misguided as they may be, and they show it.

    Carolyn Kay

    • Carolyn, yes,
      The right always has better PR. They can frame a thing so well. They can condense an idea into 3 or 4 words.
      Encapsulate an emotion.

      Once they get that, they spread it like Vaseline.

  4. No matter what happens with Obama-care, the Health Industry got what they wanted; the Federal Government has been totally discredited as a “solution” for the delivery of health care. Unfortunately, unless you are a Republican Social Darwinist, the only solution is Fed. single payer.

    I predict that this bogus “health” plan will transfer several trillion dollars of new revenue to the health industry over the next nine years, massively “under-deliver” and have a financial implosion in 2020-21.

    • And didn’t the whole health care negotiations start out with big Insurance promising to hold down costs and even lower costs to save us all money? Seems I remember the One telling us all how he got that concession from the Health Industry upfront.

      \What ever happened to that?

      busted like every other promise he has ever made.

      • Remember: Obama compromises before the discussion even begins….he got big insurance to “promise” to swear that they would hold down costs, etc., and then, after the “fight”- when he gave them their plan on a silver platter – they changed their minds. Quelle surprise!

    • Damn, that’s when I’ll probably really need healthcare.

  5. Try as I might, I can’t see repeal of Obamacare as a bad thing. It was a POS which should have never been proposed, let alone passed, in the first place.

    It’s major function seems to be a huge transfer of money from people to Insurance companies, all while insuring that real reform won’t be attempted. Kill this damn thing now.

    • Honk!

    • I agree that I want it repealed. But for the truth as you stated and not for the reasons they are saying. It is the biggest lie when they continue to shout that damned bill is universal health care. Makes my blood boil.

      • That is galling isn;t it? Yuck!

      • What are the chances that they’ll decrease the premiums if the bill is repealed?

        *shakes magic 8 ball* “Don’t count on it.”

        Blood sucking ticks.

        • That’s what I was thinking!

          I haven’t looked at the fine print (maybe somebody smart has) but would the Stupak hoop-de-doo be gone too if they repeal or did that executive order apply more generally to healthcare where gov’t spending was involved and would be something that stays even after the healthcare bill was repealed?

    • Like everything with Zero, the whole friggen governmet is screwed up.

      Everything that has passed has a massively flawed element that makes me wonder what the F planet I’m on. Repeal DADT, but don’t replace it with anything…health care bill that doesn’t really give anything….fairness bill that doesn’t give fairness in hiring…. WTF?????

  6. Gallup: Obama needs to do better, especially about the country’s interest vs Obama’s interest

    I’m not surprised by the results, but Gallup asks the questions that serve the GOP.

    If Gallup had asked the same about the GOP, I think Americans would have given Gallup an earful.

  7. I don’t think repeal is going to happen. This is showboat time. Big Pharma and the insurance companies got the deal of a lifetime. The American public? Not so much. People who pay for their own insurance have been screaming about the obscene increases leveled to their premiums [which if you pay into by yourself were already high].

    When people are choosing between health insurance and mortgage payments, we haven’t progressed very far from the days of people choosing between their prescribed drugs and food.

    Most Americans were appalled by that latter choice. I sense we’re going to remain appalled for quite sometime. Which is indeed tragic because the moment for true reform was there but deliberately tossed away.

  8. If this pos insurance company bailout bill gets repealed is it still ” frigging historic” ?

  9. Apparently they’re Walking Back health care in England too ::

    The NHS will undergo a radical pro-market shakeup with hospitals, private healthcare providers and family doctors competing for patients who will be able to choose treatment and care in plans laid out by the government today.

    The dramatic shift aims to cull more than 24,000 management staff to reduce bureaucracy and also allow NHS hospitals to chase private patients as long as the money is “demonstrably” ploughed back into the health service. The cap on such income put in place by the previous government will be removed.

    The health and social care bill will abolish all of England’s 152 primary care trusts, which currently plan services and decide how money should be spent. Andrew Lansley, the health secretary, said the radical proposals would save the taxpayer more than £10bn over the next decade.

  10. Did the number of uninsured go UP after the HCR bill passed?

  11. A 2000 page bill with enough nooks and crannies to hide the Boston symphony within its legalese? A 2000 page bill admittedly unread by almost every Congressman/woman and Senator who voted for it? A law passed but already enough waivers given to special interests (unions) and large companies to make one’s head spin? What’s not to like?

  12. A 2000 page bill admittedly unread by almost every Congressman/woman and Senator who voted for it?
    Congressional legislation can only be understood by the lobbyists and revolving door congressional staffers who write the law. I downloaded a version of the health bill last year and could get no sense of what it was really about.

    • I tried to read it too, and it was a monstrosity.

      But I don’t get to vote on it. Congress does, and they have staffs to help them digest it. When Pelosi said “pass it to find out what’s in it,” I swear my blood pressure shot through the roof. <>

      I really think the whole lot up there needs to get off their duffs or get out of MY/OUR Congress.

      They have truly been irresponsible and reprehensible.

  13. How about TRIPLE digits, like a 100% increase in deductible from $1000 to $2000 a year? After this new increase (insurance guy said was due to new government health insurance act — rather sheepishly IMO — I think the insurance companies are just using this as an excuse)***, anyhow after this latest increase, doc says I should probably have another colonoscopy this year (cuz I have problems). I had to tell him, no can do, don’t have the deductible. I think this indicates that I have LESS health security than a year ago, Mr. Prez.

    ***The reason I think they just use the law as an excuse because last year the deductible went up from $500 to $1000, and the year before from $250 to $500. So the deductible has increase 100% each year for the past 3 years. And this is an employer group policy, supposedly better than if you have to buy an individual policy.

    I won’t bother anyone with how much the premiums or the co-pays have gone up, just think 25-66%.


    • I have mostly been self-employed with junk insurance –extremely high deductible–with premiums that kept rising as I aged. The past several years I have been employed at a company and on their plan. The deductible has stayed the same, and the company puts that amount in an account after one works part of the year. I did have a colonoscopy, which could not be completed– upper third twist prevented it. Nothing found. The cost was absurd. In my case, no family history, none of most of the risk factors, I’m passing on having another unless absolutely necessary and playing the odds–5% chance. The simple test for occult has become even simpler to complete and many find it more than adequate for detection at 1/100th the cost, but it can’t remove polyps. If there is a significant reason for having the colonoscopy, definitely find a way to have it done. It can save lives.

      • Thanks for the reply and info. But I don’t know what you mean by “occult.” ??

        My doc’s recommend for second/future test seems to depend on future problems — since most issues seem to have been controlled w/meds so far.

        Also, I was kind of surprised that he LISTENED to my financial concerns, saying that it can wait til later in the year.

        • Occult (blood) in this case means hidden–as in mixed in the, er, solid matter and detectable only via tests, as opposed to bright red fresh blood from a bleeding hemorrhoid, for example.

    • I also agree that the insurance cos are using the bill as an excuse to raise the premiums because my letter about my premiums going up this year (on 02/11) came within 2 weeks of the Obama-care bill being passed. It seemed to me they were already pre-printed & ready to go.

      Nonetheless, it is the exact opposite of what Obama promised.

  14. My rule of pessimism is that the more quiet and small-scale their changes are, the worse they’ll be.

  15. A recent study finds a decline in empathy among young people in the U.S.

    Humans are unlikely to win the animal kingdom’s prize for fastest, strongest or largest, but we are world champions at understanding one another. This interpersonal prowess is fueled, at least in part, by empathy: our tendency to care about and share other people’s emotional experiences. Empathy is a cornerstone of human behavior and has long been considered innate. A forthcoming study, however, challenges this assumption by demonstrating that empathy levels have been declining over the past 30 years.

    The research, led by Sara H. Konrath of the University of Michigan at Ann Arbor and published online in August in Personality and Social Psychology Review, found that college students’ self-reported empathy has declined since 1980, with an especially steep drop in the past 10 years. To make matters worse, during this same period students’ self-reported narcissism has reached new heights, according to research by Jean M. Twenge, a psychologist at San Diego State University.

  16. And after the symbolic repeal, they’ll cut the subsidies, leaving us with the mandates.
    Today’s tabloids: a lesson about propaganda

  17. Ouch.

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