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For his next trick he’ll prove that water is wet

This is what a birther looks like

I thought they were already extinct:

For Hawaii governor, discrediting anti-Obama ‘birthers’ is a top priority

Reporting from Honolulu —
Neil Abercrombie knew Barack Obama’s parents when the future president was born here in 1961, and he has been aggravated by the so-called birther movement, which alleges Obama was not born in the United States and thus should be expelled from office.

Now Abercrombie has an office of his own — he became governor of Hawaii on Dec. 6. — and he intends to do something about it.

What, exactly, is unclear. But in an interview this week at the state Capitol, he left little doubt that torpedoing the conspiracy theorists was a priority.

“What bothers me is that some people who should know better are trying to use this for political reasons,” said Abercrombie, 72. “Maybe I’m the only one in the country that could look you right in the eye right now and tell you, ‘I was here when that baby was born.’ ”

One of Abercrombie’s aides said the governor is voicing the frustration of many Hawaiians who continue to be troubled by the rumors, which they see as emblematic of the view that Hawaiians are not Americans in the same way as those who live in the continental United States.

Abercrombie’s Hawaiian pride may be trumping practical politics. Ample evidence has been produced to discredit the “birther” movement, so in the view of the White House, the Democratic governor’s comments are reviving an issue that most people see as resolved.

Although Abercrombie’s goal may be to support Obama, experts who study political extremism say the release of additional evidence would only perpetuate the conspiracy theory. They say people who embrace such theories are guided by suspicion and, therefore, view any contrary evidence as part of the conspiracy.

We banned birthers from TC a long time ago and told Spammy to ixnay any comments suggesting that Obama was not eligible to be POTUS. I looked into the topic and concluded there were only two things wrong with the birthers’ arguments: the facts and the law.

But there are two varieties of birther. There are the Kenyanisians who think for inexplicable reasons that 18 year old Stanley Ann Dunham traveled to Africa to give birth back in 1961.

The other birther sect concedes that Obama was born in Hawaii but argues for an interpretation of the term “natural born citizen” that means born in the United States to two U.S. citizens. Unfortunately for them there isn’t a single statute or case holding that supports that proposition.

Obots like to blame PUMA for the birthers. They also blame PUMA for global warming, Ryan Seacrest and the designated hitter.

To any birthers who are reading this I’ll warn you now – don’t even try it. I don’t care if it’s Christmas, I’ll still ban your ass.

This is an open thread

44 Responses

  1. I thought they were gone too.

  2. I kind of wish Anthony Hopkins hadn’t made the two sequels to Silence of the Lambs.

  3. It’s completely normal to want detailed info about a president’s birth. You could even say it was an American tradition. Carter was our first president ever to be born in a hospital. Reagan was born before birth certificates were required and had to apply for one later. Bill Clinton published his in a book back when he was governor. Nancy Reagan took out a half page add in the newspaper to print hers and dispel rumors. McCain isn’t even president and yet he’s been to court several times to answer inquiries into his birth.

    Along comes Obama and suddenly the rules change.

    • Which hospital was it, again?

      • Heck if I know, but I forgot about Barry Goldwater, he was born before Arizona was a state and caused a big controversy. Even Dick Cheney faced a fuss and had to prove he was born in Wyoming after moving to Texas.

        My point being, birth status is such a big part of the American psyche and then along comes Obama and we change the rules and start labeling people conspiracy theorists for even trying to ask questions.

        • Birthers do a heckuva lot more than just ask questions.

        • Cheney had to prove he was a resident of Wyoming, not that he was born there. Presidential and VP candidates aren’t supposed to be from the same state. Different issue entirely.

          As for the “birthers” just being ordinariy curious folks–sorry, that pig don’t fly. Some of the same wingnuts who challenged McCain’s citizenship because he was born in the Canal Zone are peddling the Kenya crap.

          Plain fact: Obama’s mother was an American citizen. Her son is therefore an American citizen, even if his father was a Klingon and he was born on Vulcan.

          End. Of. Story.

          • Fun fact of the day: my grandmother was born in the Canal Zone, and HAAAATES McCain because, she says, she and her classmates were repeatedly told by their teachers that if they were born in the Canal Zone, they were not eligible to be POTUS. Of course, grandma is about 15 years older than McCain….

      • There wasn’t room at the hospital, so he was born in a manger.

    • Honk honk. I don’t like myiq2xu’s tone at all. I thought this community was more skeptical than that.

      Don’t trust, verify!!!!!!!11

      Just because it isn’t PC doesn’t mean it isn’t true. Don’t be so naive. Maybe instead of a picture of hannible lector he could have published a picture of the long form certificate? Oh wait, he can’t!

  4. I wish he wasn’t American. Alas, …

  5. I’d like to see the school records and grade transcripts.

  6. Who cares? He’s as legitimate as Bush in 2000 or 2004. Whoever grabs the nomination and has the most electoral votes on record is it. The 2008 winner got a booby prize (two wars and the worst recession since the Great Depression).

  7. Heck–my first child was born in an AF hospital in Weisbaden, Germany (W. Germany then). Her birth certificate is from the state dept.

  8. I’m watching the Wizard of Oz and it’s at the part with the flying Obots.


  10. It gives people something to do–making tinfoil hats is a skill.

  11. Better than stealing hubcaps–God, I’m aging myself.

  12. OT….

    I need to find a way to get my son a lap top pr notebook with wifi that he can use for college classes. He finally decided to go at the age of 30 and he is struggling so hard, It’s a long story…..
    I can not afford to buy him a new one and he can’t afford to do it either.
    does anyone know of a good way to find a used lap top? Where do I even begin to look?

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