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Loves to smell his own farts


Colbert I. King says if we allow a primary challenge to our post-racial POTUS then black people will walk out on the Democratic party.

Seriously, I’m not making this stuff up:

Warning: If the Democratic left does to Obama in 2012 what it did to incumbent President Carter in 1980 via Ted Kennedy’s damaging Democratic presidential primary challenge – or what the Republican right did to incumbent President George H.W. Bush in 1992 with Pat Buchanan’s entry into the GOP primary – the Democratic party as a whole will find itself paying a steep price for years to come.

That’s a promise, not a threat.

It’s a pretty safe bet that Obama could beat back a contender or contenders for the 2012 Democratic Party nomination. But, as with the experiences of Carter and Bush in their damaging primary struggles, Obama would be forced to devote organization, energy and money to winning renomination, three precious resources best reserved for a general election.

It’s unlikely Obama could emerge from a time-consuming and costly primary fight strong enough to run a competitive race against a Republican Party that is expected to be energized, united and determined to take back the White House in 2012.

Republicans would have the Democratic left to thank for that.

Make no mistake, however: If the left costs Obama his presidency in 2012, the Democratic Party as a whole will lose out.

Sabotage the nation’s first black president and the Democratic Party might as well bid farewell to its most loyal base of supporters: African Americans.

In 2008, the turnout for young black eligible voters was higher than that of young eligible voters of any other racial or ethnic group, according to the Pew Research Center. Consider them gone in future congressional and presidential elections if the left dooms Obama in 2012.

The 2 million more blacks who voted in 2008 than in 2004 because of Barack Obama? Say bye-bye to them, too. As for African American women, the group with the highest voter turnout rate in the 2008 presidential election? Don’t even ask.

And why should they stay with a Democratic Party that turns tail on a president who’s trying to lead a fractious country through one of roughest patches in its history?


Remember when two years ago there were predictions of riots in the streets if Obama wasn’t the nominee? SSDD

King tries to cover himself from accusations of racism by claiming that “Obama’s racially and ethnically diverse supporters” know he’s doing a much better job than John McCain would be doing. (He doesn’t mention how good Hillary would be doing right now)

But the point of a primary challenge would not be to weaken Obama so that a Republican could win the White House.

The point of a primary challenge would be to replace Obama as the nominee so that the Republicans DON’T win the White House.

So what does King predict black Americans will do if Obama loses a primary challenge? Will they sit out the general election if a different Democrat is nominated?

He doesn’t say.

But I’ll bet if Obama runs unopposed in the primaries he’ll lose in the general anyway, and somehow that will be our fault too.

Welcome to post-racial America, where the only thing that really matters is race.


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96 Responses

  1. Welcome to post-racial America, where the only thing that really matters is race.

    You should trademark that.

  2. I want to start a war with the so called “super” delegates…they re the real assholes that got us into this mess. Every single one of them needs to be loudly and frequently point ed out to their constituents ESPECIALLY the ones that overturned their constituents votes.

    Can I say once again how much I HATE this crap and all the I told ya so’s in the world will not make me feel better.

    • The Super D’s!

      Winning with superdelegates is potentially party-splitting because it could mean throwing out the choice of the elected delegates and substituting the choice of 795 party big shots.

      House Speaker Nancy Pelosi has warned against it. “I think there is a concern when the public speaks and there is a counter-decision made to that,” she said. “It would be a problem for the party if the verdict would be something different than the public has decided.”

      Donna Brazile, who was Al Gore’s campaign manager in 2000 and is a member of the DNC, said recently: “If 795 of my colleagues decide this election, I will quit [the DNC]. I feel very strongly about this.”

      On Sunday, Doug Wilder, the mayor of Richmond and a former governor of Virginia, went even further, predicting riots in the streets if the Clinton campaign were to overturn an Obama lead through the use of superdelegates.

      “There will be chaos at the convention,” Wilder told Bob Schieffer on “Face the Nation.”

      Except Hillary got more votes.

  3. “Sabotage the nation’s first black president and the Democratic Party might as well bid farewell to its most loyal base of supporters: African Americans. ”

    Funny how the DNC never acknowledges women voters and their allegiance to the party. Sorry, past allegiance to the party. I guess the PUMA thing was a promise not a threat—

    ” But their preferences had a big impact on the GOP win. Whereas the gender gap played a major role in 2008 with women voting for Democrats 56 percent of the time compared to Republicans 42 percent of the time, in 2010 the split was 49-48 percent for Democrats to Republicans. ”

    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/11/03/women-independent-voters-biggest-swing/#ixzz17uB8XyLM

    I’m surprised that he used the work “sabotage” , ‘lynch’ would have been in better keeping with the spirit of his argument. However, I think he is right in this point, Obama would play any primary challenge and the AA base of the DNC would rally around him. It would be like 2008 on koolaid steroids.

    • Honk, honk

    • I think there are lots of outspoken blacks who are seeing the light, particularly after this tax bill. Take the Black Caucus………they are not happy either.

      Obama has been given pass after pass, and they are about sick of it too. Colbert is full of kool-aid.
      And let me be the first to tell them when the time comes, get over it.

      • Would King describe AAs disappointed with Obama’s performance self-loathing like the people in this news report? I remember a black woman write

        And for another horrible flashback from the 2008 primaries, a black Obama blogger calls black Hillary Clinton supporters “house slaves”: http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/06/obama-deals-the-slave-card/
        These Obama supporters who continue to use the race card to guilt/shame/threaten white people and insult black people who do not support Obama are disgusting.

        • Sorry, didn’t finish my sentence. I remembered a black woman who called black Hillary Clinton supporters “house slaves”. That blog entry has since been deleted from Obama’s website, but luckily I found it on NoQuarter, which I linked to above. I don’t understand how Obama supporters could justify using racism against black Clinton supporters but without any basis call any white who did not support Obama a racist. The cognitive dissonance is astounding.

      • Carol Moseley Braun.
        She needs to primary O.
        That solves the “R” issue and it brings along the womens’ vote

        First woman president, here we come?

        Please, godess, let it be a dem woman who breaks the ceiling, not a Republican.
        Please.

    • How well I remember Obama intimidating Clinton delegates ………………

      Obama will be pegged as Geo. W. Bush III, and it he will have to answer that 3 am phone call.

  4. BTW – it was almost THREE years ago when Obama started playing the race card.

    I said at the time that the strategy was not only morally repugnant but would backfire eventually.

  5. I am not sure Obama will run again. He has already called on Bill Clinton too many times, first in the field, and now front and center.
    Obama has tried and failed to re-write history by disparaging FDR with lies. The first one was that FDR waited to make the depression more serious to use it for political gain. The historical fact that FDR was sworn in March of 1933, the crash happened in 1929, and FDR refused to agree to continue Hoover’s policies that benefited the status- quo. The most recent lies was that Obama claimed that social security was originally intended to pay benefits only to widows and orphans i n his dec 6 press conference.
    Obama is clearly lying or received his prestigious degrees from a cracker jack box. Or maybe he is just infested at this point with some right wing alien becoming the manchurian candidate for the republican/corporatist party.
    I doubt if the AA community will come out and vote as they did in 2008 even if Obama is running again. Unless the economy improves dramatically, which it won’t , they will stay home wondering like everyone else “what in the hell happened”.
    The dem machine might just convince Obama to not run even if he wants to but they really have no one strong enough to run other than Hillary Clinton. I somehow don’t think that is going to happen. I can just see the spin if Hillary Clinton runs. She is a black widow totally responsible for undermining Obama from the beginning . The media will blame Hillary Clinton for the mess that Obama and company caused. Hell they will blame Hillary Clinton for everything including floods, the War of 1812, and the fact that someone’s baby has colic.

    • Right on all accounts, but I don’t agree that the AA vote is not there for him. He still stands at 89% approval rating, and as heinous as this guy’s argument is, it would be difficult to primary him under these circumstances. Reports have cited HRC as making this case to her close friends and supporters. That doesn’t mean a primary opponent should not be encouraged and promoted. Maybe, by some miracle, he will step aside if things continue to deteriorate.

      • Approval rates and voting rates aren’t the same. The percent of the AA vote for midterms was back down to the same as for previous elections, so this is something of an empty threat. Of course, I wouldn’t be surprised if the AA vote is higher for Obama specifically than generic Democrat running in 2012, but I seriously doubt we’ll see the high of 2008 — he’s utterly failed AAs as much as everyone else.

      • The stark truth is, and I hate to say it because it was said about *us* — but a Dem can win without the AA vote. If the AA votes stays home (as I seriously doubt the AAs will protest vote for the GOP in strong enough numbers to make a difference) a Dem can still win if it has high turnout in the other demographics.

  6. Walk on out of the party you helped destroy! And, don’t let the door hit you in the ass as you leave. After 2008, how much worse could the Dem Party get?

  7. So we’re forever hostage to Colbert King’s sensitivities. Gimme a break. What a tool.

  8. I still don’t think Obama will run again… he’s bored and being president is a pain in the ass.

  9. “Sabotage the nation’s first black president and the Democratic Party might as well bid farewell to its most loyal base of supporters: African Americans.”

    He’s actually America’s second black president. We did sabotage the first one, Democrats and Republicans alike, tried to impeach him even, but he came out of it still walking upright.

    “That’s a promise, not a threat.”

    Uh, yeah, that’s the whole problem. Threatening people with the loss of Obama in 2012 pretty much triggers a lot of yawns. Promising them no more Obama actually stirs some excitement. What can I say? The reality is that Obama’s performance has been so poor, it’s hard for enough people to cough up much fear about a Republican presidency.

  10. i am so not ready to vote for a democrat in the next presidential election because he or she is the lesser of two evils. don’t count on my vote automatically. wouldn’t it be wonderful to actually vote for someone? i would love to see a primary challenge.

  11. Thursday December 9, 2010
    Daily Show: Cenac – National Displeasure
    Barack Obama used to find the American people’s inconsistent irrationality charming, but he’s losing his patience.
    http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/thu-december-9-2010/national-displeasure

  12. There are several things wrong with this argument. 1: African americans largely voted Democrat way before Obama ever came along, and they do not make up a majority of the base.

    2: Democratic Presidents often have opposition from the left.

    3: Colbert King is an imbecile. Obama is all ready too weakened to win in the 2012 general and he is no longer invested in governing- if he ever was. Not primarying him because we will lose AAs is the most idiotic thing I have ever heard. Poll after poll was conducted during the 2008 primary and it was Hillary’s supporters who said they would not vote for Obama in the general. Obamas sane voters (not Obots) all said they would vote for Hillary.

    Like myiq said, welcome to post racial America, where everything is about race.

  13. King’s piece is truly an embarrassment to all African Americans. But then these are the same mindless idiots who decided that “Affrican American” was the “in” thing to be after fighting a revolution in the streets (literally) to go from Negro to Black. I personally still refer to myself as Black. But that’s another argument and not really relevant to this.

    Anyway’s KIng’s argument is that race trumps everything even inexperience, ineptitude, incompetence, naivete, etc., etc. His promise sounded a lot like a threat to me.

    Note to all African Americans: There’s another minority in this country that’s gainin on ya. They be the Hispanics. Be careful you don’t promise/threaten/marginalize yourselves into irrelevance, obscurity and oblivion.

  14. So, essentially Colbert is saying that to the African American community, it’s all about identity politics. The fact that African Americans have high unemployment rates and are suffering in this economy does not factor at all. Wow, what an insult to the African American community.
    And to women as well. Women make up half the population, African Americans something like 12%. But it is more important that we cater to African Americans than women *even though* half of the African American population is women.
    Did Colbert skip elementary logic in college? This is the stupidest piece of reasoning I have ever read but Democratic operatives and activists spew it all the time.

    • We are proud that we put 18 million cracks in the glass ceiling.

      Colbert might explain how Obama’s hope has strengthen our economic situation.

    • Yes. Ishmeal Reed said the same thing. Substitute white for progressive in in opinion and you get an idea…
      http://community.nytimes.com/comments/www.nytimes.com/2010/12/12/opinion/12reed.html

      The trouble is that to get beyond affirmative action and into post racial there has to be equal opportunity to fail with equal consequences. As much as I hate the path he has taken, it’s not clear to me that based on his own agenda he has failed, except maybe for Guantanamo and any efforts to appeal the Supreme Court ruling on corporate campaign contributions. The oligarchs that got him into office must be satisfied as well. The Dems as a group would have to get much more liberal quickly to offer a coherent and different platform. HRC’s theoretically would be somewhat more so but not distinctly more so. Plus, I think she wants to go do something else where she can help people unhobbled.

      The 12% of the African American comminity tend to be clustered in specific voting districts, which adds weight to their vote. In addition, AA women tend to still vote black first and female second. Women do not have districts where they cluster. Therefore, they must outvote men in each district, and vote the same in order to have a uniform voice.

      • Although, I will say there are some cities where there tend to be more women then men, like SF for example. I don’t think that’s a good example however, because there is a strong LGBT voting block there which can add to the women’s vote or not.

      • Look, I get what you’re saying about clusters but the Democrats could be hemorrhaging women left and right in all districts. If you run a woman, in fact the woman who won all of those huge primary states last time and whose voters were left out in the cold, you could pull a lOt of women back in.
        I still think it’s insulting to African Americans to think it’s all about identity. What difference does a black president make if you can’t feed your kids?
        Obama’s failure has nothing to do with his ethnicity. It has to do with his inexperience and lack of political acumen. Trust me, when the next qualified African American runs for president, I will be happy to vote for her.

        • As you may know, I’ve always been 2L4O. Plus, there are other things I perceive in his personality that I distrust and dislike. I’m just trying to play devil’s advocate and imagine how it might go. I don’t think it would be an easy thing to have voted for the first AA ever, significant throughout the world, and now make the decision that he is so bad, worse than Bushco and company or what Reagan did, that he should go. The specter of someone like Gingrich out there waiting in the wings would be horrifying. To whom in the Dem party would you turn that could inspire you and make you believe? Whom do we believe right now?

          Yes I agree there are a lot folks who are angry right now, especially the group to which you refer, RD. However, as you mentioned elsewhere, a plan is needed, money is needed, a candidate is needed that can capture the diffuse vote in each district, and a whole lot of mojo to overcome the frenetics of the DNC voting system.

          • I don’t think we should allow fear of what *might* happen paralyze us to the point where we accept a subpar performance. Especially when we have amqualified alternative that would be way more popular than tricking Newt Gingrich.
            What is needed right this minute, even more than a plan and a committee, is for people to stop talking themselves out of primarying Obama. If you want someone else in the WH and you know that you can get a good replacement, you should not listen to the multiple Hakas out there trying to psych you out. Instead of doing the “Woe is us, the odds against us are insurmountable”, it would be much better if you kept accentuating the positive. Otherwise, what you fear will be a self fulfilling prophecy and you will be stuck with Obama or worse.

          • He is no different from Bush except maybe he speaks better and is more self centered, and as the Black Agenda Report says a more useful proxy for Republican policy than Bush could have dreamed of.

          • I’m not trying to talk myself out of this, I’m trying to expose the arguments so I have better tools to work with. You said TW, that he is no different from Shrub. I agree. Lol, I had more to say but realized I was ranting.

      • Obama has failed the first test of any President…putting the interest of the country ahead of himself. That is not a small thing or a vague thing. Not for me it isn’t.

  15. We settle the “Is Obama a sellout?” debate

    Editor: Steve Kornacki
    Updated: Today
    Topic:
    Barack Obama
    Saturday, Dec 11, 2010 14:01 ET
    War Room
    We settle the “Is Obama a sellout?” debate
    By Andrew Leonard and Steve Kornacki

    We settle the
    AP/Salon
    President Barack Obama and Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky

    As a candidate for president in 2008 (and on many occasions since), Barack Obama assured Americans that he was committed to letting George W. Bush’s tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans expire as scheduled at the end of 2010. And yet, there he was this past Tuesday announcing that he’d cut a deal with Republican leaders to extend the rates for another two years — and telling outraged liberals that they were being unrealistic in their demand that he fight on instead of compromising.

    Classic case of a president turning his back the people who elected him (not to mention a central campaign pledge), right? Well, it depends how you look at it. Senior writer Andrew Leonard, who believes Obama folded far too soon, and politics editor Steve Kornacki, who thinks the deal is actually pretty reasonable, discuss their conflicting interpretations in an instant messenger conversation:
    http://www.salon.com/news/politics/barack_obama/index.html?story=/politics/war_room/2010/12/11/leonard_kornacki_tax_deal

    Funny, but I laugh at ‘war_room’ tags, because if there is something the press doesn’t cover it’s the WARS.

    • Cindy Sheehan is starting to rumble against Obama’s wars again. More folks needs to raise their voices against all the bombing and killing. Send Cindy some support.

      Ralph Nader called Obama a con man and a liar.
      Gee , so blunt and so right.

  16. I think Obunko will run again, if only to show Bill he can be a two term president.
    It’s the same motive as ramming the crappy HCR bill down our throats, do something that Bill couldn’t.
    I think the Obamas despise the Clintons because Bill earned the title of America’s first black President. He should take comfort in the fact that he is a first too, the first republican black President.
    Barring some miracle, Obama will run and lose the White House in 2012.

    • I think he is bored with this gig already – but the decision is not is. It is in the hands of those raking in the cash these days, the ones NYT calls today “A Secretive banking Elite”.
      If they find Obama’s credibility with his based is totally squeezed out, they’ll support the other side and Obama will be allowed to go free to get some no show position at Goldman Sachs or a health insurance company.

  17. Get Obama to bow out and run Hillary already. Let the African American chips fall where they may. Obama isn’t going to win in 2012 no matter what. Better to get the ONE person who can.

    It sounds to me like the threat of a primary challenge is getting to be a real possibility. Colbert is trying a haka but I’m not threatened even a tiny bit. Weak, very weak.

    • A diarist at Kos wrote something similar to Kings. Link at Hillary is 44. Sad, sad, sad

    • I think having a Very Liberal stalking horse make the initial challenge will work… then have the convention draft Hillary…

      • Bingo!
        Franken would be an ideal stalking horse. Hillary could resign as SoS and stump for Franken without being such a big bull’s eye for the misogynists/media/blogstalkers. I believe, Franken might be happy to turn the top spot over to HRC at the convention and fill VP slot himself. I also think it would be a dynamite ticket that could re-energize a broad spectrum of FDR dems and independents. (Just MHO)

    • Too little too late.
      We have the perfect storm, a Reagan Democrat in the White House and a cowardly bunch in congress. Obama could have shamed the Dems in congress into taking action and vice-versa but neither are real Democrats so we got bail outs and tax cut extensions.
      Unless the economy turns around (doubtful) look for a real republican in the White House come 2013 working with a republican controlled congress.

    • No way Obama wins in 2012. Just wait til the GOP adds Rubio to the ticket and the Dems lose the Hispanic vote. Only Hillary, mobilizing the Reagan Democrats and women, will be able to keep the WH for the Dems.

    • why is every one assuming they even want to retain the White House? If they lose the WH they can get back to their faux outrage and finger pointing.

  18. OT but Swedes aren’t nice enough?

    STOCKHOLM — One man was killed and two other people were injured when two explosions hit the heart of Stockholm’s city-center shopping district on Saturday evening, the police in the Swedish capital said. The country’s foreign minister called the blasts a terrorist attack, and an e-mail to news organizations minutes before the blasts seemed to link them to anger over anti-Islamic cartoons and the war in Afghanistan.

  19. NYT provides some measure of schadenfreude while still lying to cover Obama’s ass (he ushered sweeping progressive legislation)
    If Bill Clinton Were President

    Still, it’s a measure of Mr. Obama’s uncertainty in this moment of peril that he would summon not only the spirit but also the person of Mr. Clinton, whom he disparaged during the 2008 campaign for small-ball politics that made him less of a transformational president than Ronald Reagan. Lately, Mr. Obama has been reading accounts of Mr. Clinton’s presidency.

    • Oh goody! Obama has been reading accounts of Bill’s presidency — maybe he can learn what Bill actually did instead of the lies he told in 2008.

  20. Here’s a graphic of Obama’s unprecedented, bestest deal ever
    http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2010/12/12/obamas-deal-in-a-graphic/

  21. Take King at his word. He writes:

    Warning: If the Democratic left does to Obama in 2012 what it did to incumbent President Carter in 1980 via Ted Kennedy’s damaging Democratic presidential primary challenge – or what the Republican right did to incumbent President George H.W. Bush in 1992 with Pat Buchanan’s entry into the GOP primary – the Democratic party as a whole will find itself paying a steep price for years to come.

    Well, that makes us power brokers, then, doesn’t it?

    I’m with Ian Welsh: The left must take down Obama AND BE SEEN TO. Otherwise, there is no left. It’s existential.

    • I like that he says that Obama

      trying to lead a fractious country through one of roughest patches in its history?

      as opposed to actually leading

      • I have no sympathy for what “Obama inherited” nor the Obots who spout that bullsh!t. Obama lied, bribed & stole the primary to get the job. If he didn’t know what it entailed, F*CK HIM!

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  23. Obama has already damaged the Democratic brand for the foreseeable future. What have we got to lose in primarying him?

    • Nothing really but don’t forget that Nancy Pelosi is House Minority Leader instead of Out On Her Ass same with Harry Reid. So, expect the Epic Fail Trifecta to be back for 2012.

  24. Support Obama or else!

    I’ll take the *or else,* thank you.

  25. Of course, more African Americans voted for Hillary in early 2008 primaries before the man of destiny stuff started. One theory has it that the Obama campaign let it be known to the Clinton camp that if she were to protest the floor vote his surrogates would spend the rest of the election depressing the black vote so Democrats would lose.

  26. Pigment Power!

  27. Psychological explanations are usually dangerous, but sometimes the evidence is too obvious to ignore:

    I think both “centrist” and “conservative” are the wrong labels for the Big O. That would imply principles of some sort, and I see no evidence Obama is motivated by principle. I think the right term is “anti-liberal” because he is motivated by a festering resentment of those to his left, a resentment that ties into the fact his entire career has been about advancing by playing on the willingness of those to his left (white or black) to read “black” as “liberal.” He has been expert at using identity politics for self-promotion, but at the same time doing so has undermined any sense that the victories were deserved, leaving him with a contempt towards the same sort of people who continue to defend him.

  28. This might be the most racist commercial of the decade:

    • wow-
      that is f*cked up.
      I might have even bought that product if I hadn’t seen that.

    • I’d eat one of those and I missed any racei$m.
      It looked like sugar festival . The harmonies were good Especially when she fixed that last cupcake.
      s/
      I hate PC.
      Why is it OK to lump all black people together?
      Why do we continue to segregate ourselves… Can’t we see that that isn’t the way its going.
      Homogeneous is the future.

    • those cupcakes are biracial 🙂 (and white cupcakes can’t sing) … and chocolate makes everything taste good.

  29. Do these Kool-Aid sipping, Brain Dead, Zombie mofo’s ever listen to themselves?

    My God!!!!! I am so sick of hearing how the masses will rebel if we do not fall in line and support “Teh Precious!”

    I say….If the Obot’s want to rebel…LET THEM!

    and….Once they are done throwing their juvenile tantrums, we ( The adults ) can send these booger eating, immature, cootie infested little brats to their room for a time out!

  30. Just wishing I had an image editor so I could turn that Obama O into a toilet seat. It would go nicely with the caption.

  31. I don’t think it is meaningless that for both Obama and W. the default expression is the smirk. W’s contempt for the left was based on the feeling they underestimated his intelligence but I suspect Obama’s is based on the anxiety they have over-estimated his.

  32. Support Obami? No way. It’s like ignoring a virulent cancer. If he had any honor, which he doesn’t, he would tell us NOW that he does not plan to run again. He has turned out to be the polar opposite of what he ran as and can’t be trusted to do any of the “right” things. Time has proven that. I don’t care if he’s black, white, or polka dots; he’s a lousy excuse for a president, and it appears people are finally beginning to understand that. NO leadership skills and no firm principles that anyone can see. Besides any person whose hero is Ronald Reagan should not be considered a democrat,

  33. Colbert King is an Asshat. As myiq highlighted in his post, Mr. King assumes that over 75% of black people will vote the same way as they did last time. This is simply impossible. I waiting to see what the poll says about likely AA voters after this tax package is passed. Also, like myiq said, there was no mention of WHERE those votes will go. Isn’t it so sad to see black writers and leaders not imploring black support for dems no matter who the nominee is? Sour grapes is a mutha….

    Asshat.

    Hillary 2012

    • And Oh-noes anyway about losing all those black people if Obama is primaried and the other candidate wins.

      How many voters has Obama lost by his behavior this term? I don’t think he’s re-electable unless Gingrich is the R and I find that possibility highly doubtful.

  34. I think that, by the time of the next Primary, the Incredible Shrinking Man will be a toddler.

  35. This is the logical consequence of all the “you’re a r@cist” attacks flung around with such ease during the 2008 primary. When you support a person not based on the content of his character, but on the basis of his skin color, what else can you expect?

  36. The manipulation inherent in the Colbert King article leaves me seething. However, I think there might be bit of a valid point. Polls still show overwhelming approval numbers for Obama among African Americans (though there are an increasing number of dissenting voices among prominent politically-engaged African Americans – e.g. Cornell West). If Obama were primaried from the left by a typical white Stevensonian, and they ended up being nominated, the level of alienation would likely be high among African Americans. On the other hand, African Americans are among the groups hardest hit by the current recession (and Colbert King is not among those suffering). I think alienation would be substantially avoided if the candidate were a non-Stevensonian, heavily focused on improving circumstances for average people (including African Americans) and speaking truth (ala Bernie Sanders).

  37. Yawn. The politics of extortion is so 2008.

  38. To paraphrase Donna Brazile: “Go ahead and leave the party. We can lose without you.”

  39. Well we could always run a genuine African American instead of guy who grew up white.

    Rep. Kendrick Meek

    http://www.kendrickmeek.com/pages/12/

  40. Well, it’s just more hostage taking and threats but what happens if Obama loses? Why wouldn’t AA’s abandon the party then? Wouldn’t the same case exist? The fact that the party didn’t “support” Obama therefore causing him to lose the presidential election in ’12?

  41. Pure extortion. I find the best way to deal with blackmailers is to call their bluff. A counter argument is how many independents we would win with Hillary as the Dem nominee.

    It’s almost never mentioned that the exit polls of the 2008 General election showed that had Hillary been our nominee 16% of McCain voters would have voted Democrat.

    • I think Obama was run in order to stop Hillary, not so much to stop the Republicans. I think it was Hillary that the powers-that-be were afraid of.

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