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Turn back time open thread

This is an open thread for insomniacs and people who work nights.

Don’t forget to turn your clocks back one hour.

39 Responses

  1. This song is like a fungus – it grows on you:

    • Well, why didn’t the remaining 200,000 people comprising their viewing audience sign? And exactly what happens when those particular “progressives” get angry? Oh wait, nothing.

  2. Open(door, horse)Left:

    Simply incredible. In 24 hours over 200,000 people have signed our Progressive Change Campaign Committee (PCCC) petition to MSNBC demanding they put Keith Olbermann back up on the air.

    If you haven’t heard the news, MSNBC suspended Keith without pay for gasp, donating to three Democratic candidates this cycle. As @TheShannonFiles tweeted:

    I think they picked a bad time to fuck with the Progressive movement. We’re a little pissed off.


    • I’m guessing 100K of those petition signers are wingnuts freeping the petition.

      • That was my theory too! Right after they signed the Keep-Pelosi petition. Laughing their butts off, I’m sure.

        And “a ba time to f*ck with the Progressive movement”? That had me lmao.

    • Idiots. Maybe Olbermann decided to break the rules to challenge them in the court and get money from MSNBC at the same time.

      • Nah, from all accounts Olbermann doesn’t have a legal leg to stand on. It’s much more likely that NBC is using this as a renegotiation tactic. His show’s ratings are dropping and they probably just want to him to take a pay cut. Which is pretty funny, if true — welcome to the world, Keith!

    • This is really about Comcast needing the support of the new Congress for the merger. MSNBC was always Zucker’s baby, and Zucker is now gone. He’s probably applying for a job at the White House.

      • Nah, as exciting as that tabloid story sounds, it’s about oldhamaman and his ratings sucking big time, comcast probably didn’t want to deal with that mess

    • The Progressive movement really showed what they were made of this past election getting all those Dems elected……


      Hillary 2012

    • I will make a point of not signing it, because of Olbermann’s history of misogyny, especially that remark about someone taking Hillary into a room and her not coming out.

      Twist in the wind, Olbermann. 😈

  3. Krugman has a convoluted piece in today’s Times basically saying that the rich are hoarding their money and there isn’t much trickling down going on, the Federal government is kind of just standing around, and he hasn’t decided whether the Federal Reserve continuing to print more money is helping or hurting the situation. So not much new.

    • Oh, didn’t see his follow ups. He also thinks people (presumably the rich ones, and also the ones on the right) are fear mongering on deficits and inflation…he’s been consistent about that. Also seems he is leaning toward supporting the Federal Reserve’s new money printing after all, since it looks like the Federal government won’t be spending more on stimulus…except for those tax cut extensions. Lot depends on where the Fed’s new money ends up and who is helped most by the easier borrowing.

      • Does he mention the inflation for the middle class that this Fed monetizing will cause?

        I’m reading that China is pissed at their causing the value of the dollar to go down, thus devaluing China’s investments in America.

        And so it goes…..

    • “As later events seemed to prove, money poured in at the top of the economic system tended to stay there, whereas money poured in at the bottom tended to rise through all levels of business and to strengthen the economy as a whole.” – J.D. Hicks

      Hicks wrote that when he was analyzing Republican economic policies during the Hoover administration.

      (That’s Herbert Hoover, not Barack Hoover.)

  4. Tom in Paine has a nice post from yesterday that is worth a read…..


  5. Every time I think I’ve seen the dumbest statement ever, somebody tops it. Mark Shields:

    But on the subject of Sarah Palin in 2012, one of the unspoken problems that she does have is her quitting as governor midway through her first term. It is like Ted Kennedy’s Chappaquiddick.

    • Quitting your job = Dead woman at the bottom of a creek. Mark Shields is one of those old fashioned misogynists.

    • Yeah, same thing exactly. Drunken rich guy with lots of government connections drives a woman into the bay, leaves her in the car to drown, returns the next day and basically gets away with, well let’s see what that would be called in real life.

    • “Unspoken”? Did she not tell anyone she’s no longer governor?

  6. I can’t believe I’m still up…. Just getting my head out of my work. My brain is all wobbly.

  7. Weird but funny Terry Bisson (very short) story:

  8. http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/11/att-pushes-supreme-court-demolish-join-class-action-lawsuits/

    This could change a lot of things in this country. People would have very little recourse against companies who manufacture or sell bad products



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