So Obama fanboy Andrew Sullivan had this headline out yesterday — it’s a hoot — “Obama’s Lost Narrative” (h/t to memeorandum) :
Nyhan goes after the Democrats for baseless attacks against the US Chamber of Commerce. It is very depressing to see them descend to this kind of stuff. What they need are not tactics and resentment, which is what we’re seeing. What we need is a narrative of recovery and reform from Obama. He has the record, and he has made a couple of great speeches. But this distracts.
My view, and I’ll say it again. Campaign on ending the long-term debt. Campaign on being the man who can bring America together to solve its long-term fiscal crisis. Call the GOP out on its fiscal record and its current refusal to specify what they’ll cut. Remind people of the debt commission. Remind people we need to cut spending and raise taxes. Be the adult in the room. With a megaphone.
I’ve been reading some pundit reactions, and they tend to be puzzled as to why Obama and the Ds are doing this. But, it’s really quite simple. This “Stolen election” meme isn’t about getting out the vote during the 2010 election cycle. It’s really more about the next election cycle. The Obama permanent campaign is pre-emptively shaping the narrative of Democratic losses in 2010 and pitching an argument to independents that it’s not Obama’s fault — everybody else is obstructing poor O, you gotta stick with O and show all the evil people fighting him wrong… in 2012!
It’s the same thing with all the hippie-punching coming out of the Obama camp. Combined with the strategy of a “War on Fox News,” the message that the WH has been quite consistently and doggedly (although misguidedly) telegraphing to Independents is that O has the partisans on both sides trying to thwart him. This of course will not bring Independents back in 2010, but this isn’t about 2010. Once Obama won in 2008, it was always about 2012 for the Obama permanent campaign. They do not care about 2010 other than minimizing any spillover to Obama’s 2012 re-election chances. They are banking on the electorate tiring of the partisan noise by 2012 and coming back home to Obama. This doesn’t look like enough right now, but 2012 largely depends on the economy and who the GOP picks as their nominee. The GOP slate is pretty awful on the whole in my opinion, so Obama may slide by on his weak posturing.
Furthermore, the Obama camp doesn’t care about looking like the grownups in the room. They are more interested in how they can make themselves look like the underdogs (“They talk about me like a dog”). Obama has lost the “I’m the outsider” canard he used in 2008 as Candidate Obama. President Obama IS Washington. He is desperately trying to make himself NOT Washingtion. So when you see “stolen election” memes, understand–this is the same as the ACORN meme was for the GOP. A consolation prize and red meat to start feeding the base for the NEXT election cycle, preparing their own grassroots to see themselves as being thwarted by the party that wins in the current election cycle.
I’ve also heard the activist left lament that Obama should be committing to protecting Social Security instead of this nonsense about the CoC. Indeed. But, a) O and friends have already moved on from 2010, they’ve signaled that it’s already a stolen election and lost, they’re not trying to win, and b) Obama is a Flim Flam Nowhere Man who BS’es on SS. Since O and the Dems have not shown any shyness about promising things which they were never going to deliver on, you really have to wonder about the things they won’t promise on.
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Will, has a new FACEBOOK page to discuss all the possibilities…hemmm…. 😉
oh dear.
Will is OK, just don’t sleep in the room next to one of his political parties…but that is youth…they can chat until dawn.
Will Bower can go pound sound up his ass.
He’s a Republican Ratfucker
Honk honk.
That isn’t my experience. Some were asked to go public and those that did took some major hits, Will being one of them. I have had private chit chats and didn’t detect any GOP platform issues there.
I did do some items and some here from some other States got them, and when I went into peek (I did it cause I just couldn’t help myself, being an op, this chance may never come again)…had to go look and it was most revealing.
Firstly, I didn’t realize how the HEART OF THE GOP loves BUSH II…that was shocking…more so when you consider what I prepared…I could have been tarred and feathered. I did get a hug from Jon Voight because he said ‘You’re from blank’ (I thought of telling ’em NOT SO LOUD) and I said ‘HOW COULD YA TELL’! I stuck out like a sore thumb but I gained great insight as to how they keep their loyal base…their worker bees.
Any hoo, that is my story and I am sticking to it!
You didn’t have a problem with “Hillary should be McCain’s VP?”
WV,
I don’t think Will was or is a Republican.
I do think he did the Hillary holdouts a disservice when he got carried away and used inaccurate figures to discuss how many of us there were and how much had been raised to pay off Hillary’s debt.
Nope. He is not.
myiq2xu,
Where did ya get the McCain VP thingie? That wasn’t in any e-mails I got. (((ya mean I was not in the IN, IN group…whaH!)))
WTV,
I shouldn’t say this, but I think Will knows that too well. He really put his heart into it though and I give him credit for trying real hard.
Will Bower interview published 6/23/08:
Full Bower quote:
I get what he was saying. He was talking about divided gov’t.
I think Bower just got carried away with the attention and let it go to his head.
Also, iirc, Bower didn’t ask sm77 or riverdaughter for permission to act like the spokesman of the “PUMA” banner.
There is also this from the same article:
That was in the MIDDLE OF JUNE 2008!
If Will Bower wasn’t a Republican Ratfucker he might as well have been. He single-handedly did more to discredit PUMA than anyone else.
I disagree.
Bower took off and did his own thing. He was not elected nor did he consult with the rest of PUMA before declaring himself spokesman.
Meeting with McCain in June 2008? I can see that as a way to put pressure on the Dems. I don’t have much a problem with that part. I had more a problem with the way the PUMA banner was usurped by figureheads and their egos became the story rather than the disenfranchisement of millions of voters. Will’s biggest mistake was that he made it about Will and became the news himself instead of actually spreading the message of Hillary’s holdouts.
Dario, what do you disagree with? Sorry, couldn’t tell where you were replying in the nest.
People went in different directions after June 1 2008 in their attempt to be politically relevant, and the PUMA label served him. Lady Rothschild supported McCain. I don’t believe Bowers is GOP.
Bower, not Bowers.
The MEETING was for VOTER REFORM and to hear our concerns and it was NOT to join the GOP. I wasn’t in the DC area and so I didn’t attend and if recollection serves me well ‘Carly I want to be Senator’ was there too.
As to the ‘spokesman’ bit, I think we simply were dealing with too much information and between New York, D.C., Florida, PA, and the LA/West Coast Groups it was amazing that we managed to get as much press as we did.
Will, like him or not, did the best he could and we had to create items from scratch and we didn’t have a centralized hub…it was all a work of the hearts really.
So, NO I won’t go after Will, because he did the best he could (gave up a lot) given what he had to work with and often calling on folks to send things to other folks clear across the country. Had we had a listA we could have done more, but live and learn.
Oh, the conference calls were a hoot though and worthy of a mention if there is ever a book. 😉
WTV,
What do you think about 2016? I would prefere 2012, but I don’t think that is going to happen…
2016 is too late imho, I don’t see 2012 happening, and I think the idea of her replacing Biden is a weird rumor that’s been going on since Obama announced Biden as his running mate.
You know what’s weird? Remember that very iffy “white house insider” stuff that was published on that blog – the one we weren’t sure was just made-up R stuff?
Well, that guy is supposedly still talking. And he broke the Axelrod leaving first, before the media picked it up. And he also broke the Hillary offered VP position first as well, and said wait and watch and the story will hit the news in a day or two. It did.
It still may be bunk, but he’s been right on several stories that broke later. Actual insider? Maybe?
I’m guessing he’s a double agent.
He was given permission to leak a couple things to build his credibility.
(Yes, I’m paranoid)
Oh, they also broke the news that Summers was leaving 72 hours before it was announced.
I am with WMCB on this one…there maybe some there there!
I don’t think it’s weird.
It rang true to me at the time, I said so and I still think so.
Well, his latest is that Gibbs is next out the door. And that the WH is totally paranoid that staff is leaking stuff to the Clintons and also to Rahm.
Okay, I’m not paranoid, THEY’RE paranoid.
I will volunteer to get Gibbs out the door…that creepy Hippie puncher!
Word is, Gibbs IS leaving, but it’s to help Plouffe with The One’s 2012 campaign.
But who knows, with this crew?
Hillary 2016? That should be Hillary 2012.
Great post. I agree, with the WH it’s all about them. Should not come as a surprise to all the candidates out there that risked everything to support his policies. They should have known better.
Thanks DT. They should have known better. Like Pelosi, they all hitched their wagons to the Obama star and couldn’t shut up about how he’d redraw the map.
Great post … after a WTV post, I’m often left with nothing to say for whole minutes…! Imagine!
The pundits are hilarious… Never has there been so many and never so wrong….always a year or two late and several trillions short…But it’s their job to push the lie de jor and be perplexed when their lie is not working . The only time I see them complain about policies that are pulling us down the drain is when fluffing BO’s pillow becomes very hard work…Sully says the Dems have a record they can run on? Can he be more specific? Clearly the Mod Dems disagree with him or perhaps they would run on their ‘great” record?
Campaign on being the man who can bring America together to solve its long-term fiscal crisis.
LOLOLOL
Stop it! My laugh lines are hurting me!!!
Thanks paperdoll. Told ya Sully’s spin was a hoot! I couldn’t even bother to address the nonsense about O just needing to make everyone understand how wonderful he has been. Sully’s reading too much Ezra, Lol.
Evidently when Sully crawled up inside Palin’s womb and disappeared for several months, he reverted to a fetal state.
But..they work so hard on these narratives to shove down our throats! And we “ungovernable” wretches just keep puking it back up all over their Ferragamos.
What is the matter with the voters?! I mean, really.
we’re just too declasse to appreciate the sophistry of the creative class
AOHell news:
Those D voters need to be drug tested, or something.
he’s hemorrhaging people who still bother calling themselves Dems? ruh roh
I have absolutely no interest in watching this slow motion train wreck for another two years. Unfortunately, we all have a front row seat. Gawd, this can’t be over soon enough!
BTW, perfect post, Wonk!
Daou tweet (and article)
His first paragraph confirms this entry
This is exactly what I’m talking about. I’m a fan of Daou’s, but all this confusion over why the WH would do this *before* the midterms? It’s just like I covered in my post. The WH is doing it because it’s not about the midterms, it’s about 2012.
Daou:
Then WTF were all those townhall speeches he flew around the country giving?
Obama is all marketing, no product development. Or in the words of Walter Mondale, “he’s all sizzle, no steak.”
all asshat, no cattle
FTW!!
I meant:
Honk, honk!
🙂
See, he still doesn’t get it. He thinks that “neglecting public opinion” is a failure to talk enough, rather than a failure to listen enough.
The pubic has spent 2 years screaming at the top of their lungs: ” It’s not that we don’t UNDERSTAND what you are doing, it’s that we DON’T LIKE what you are doing!”
His response? “So what you’re saying is that I need to explain this better…”
NO!
NO! NO, that is not what we are fucking saying!
Arrogance that monumental deserves to be driven to the most ignominious defeat in American political history. And I am not joking about that. I have a feeling that this election is going to be the biggest, most resounding slap in the face to these dickwads that the public can muster. Not because they love republicans, but because they are sick of being talked at, and want to be HEARD.
Honk, honk, honk, honk, honk, honk!
(six honks is a new record)
Imagine if the public loved republicans, we’d be looking at a >100 seat flip easily. As it is, I wouldn’t be too surprised to see 70 go.
But, that’s the only way he knows how to connect with them people … up on high looking down at them.
Once again, all I can do is remind myself that throughout Obama’s brilliant political career, the only person whoever benefited from his election to any office was Obama.
Bingo! but that’s the part of the equation the chattering classes will keep avoiding and instead scratch their heads and wonder why oh why would the guy who wooed them in 2008 behave such and such way.
They’re too smart to be fooled so something must have prevented Obama from keeping his promises.
/snark
That’s it in a nutshell, myiq. In their analysis of “what went wrong?”, they start by preemptively excluding the evidence that he was a bad choice from the beginning.
When you start your thesis with a false presupposition, you can never arrive at the truth. So the poor dears will never figure out “what went wrong?”
Perfect.
If Obama and the Dems were truly looking to get on the voters’ good side, they’d run on this developing foreclosure disaster. It would pit them against the megabanks, whom everyone hates, and would put the GOP on the defensive.
But nooooo. We have to listen to this stuff about oppo ad financing, which just rationalizes defeat to the choir and tells everyone else that they think people are too stupid to evaluate bullshit ads. Of course, a lot of people are ignorant enough to fall for them–look at the size of Beck and Limbaugh’s audiences–but you’re not going to win any support by telling them that.
Obama doesn’t want to anger his base.
lol! Wall St.
Ayup
So many opportunities! The foreclosures, social security, DADT – any one right response on these would galvanize GOTV. If they wanted to, that is.
I seem to remember earlier on, in the spring or summer, WH predicting Ds would lose congress and Pelosi & gang getting very miffed at being dismissed beforehand.
Obama was just inadvertently showing his hand /instructions from handlers written on it
Also, remember when he graded himself B+? he still thinks that. From the NYT article
and we’ve probably accomplished 70 percent of the things that we talked about during the campaign. And I hope as long as I’m president, I’ve got a chance to work on the other 30 percent.”
70% of 0 = 0
he did that 70% bs in the “buck up” Rolling Stone interview too.
Where I went to school 70% was a C-
Me too!!
You must have gone to a public school like me.
In them fancy private schools they send all the poor kids in Hawaii to they grade differently.
ROTFLMBAO!!!!!!!!!!
In case anybody’s interested …
Don’t know why I was ever on Obama’s mailing list, I certainly never gave a dime to him and stopped giving to the DNC a couple of years ago when I had a different email addy. Possible they got me from Hillary’s campaign. Anyway, they’re still sending me pitches. This one arrived today. The subject heading is “I want to meet [Zaladonis]”
Vomit.
Explains why they’re disappointed.
Uh huh.
And instead they got unprecedented disappointment.
Vomit.
My bookkeeper is Helen Waite
If Obama wants a donation from me he should go to Helen Waite.
HOORAY!!! I JUST GOT THE SAME EMAIL! BARACK WANTS TO MEET ME!! I’M GOING TO FAINT!!!
Asshat.
Hillary 2012
The subject line has my name in it, but the intro is ‘Friend.’ I really want the stats on how many people donate based on this email….
I got one too, how exciting!
I deleted it and paid myself the 3 dollars for the effort.
I sent them a wordy reply. It went something like this…..
Asshat.
Hillary 2012
I hope you like in Gitmo
You have a delicious way with words, Rock. Thank you for the best laugh of the day.
LOVE it. I get these emails too; probably cause I used to be a member of MoveOn.
“health reform’ — yeah, he still doesn’t care or get it that it was about HEALTHCARE … or maybe he just didn’t listen to what they said exactly.
fooken sweepstakes? What is this Publisher’s Clearing House? …if only
Bwahaha, they don’t have my address. I told the Hillary campaign to not give it to them and they didn’t. Suck it DNC.
Me in the comments at TM:
He shoots, he scores.
Nice post Wonk! You couldn’t be more correct about Obumbles looking past this election. In fact, he hasn’t paid attention to ANYONE that helped him steal the election in Congress. But I do disagree with one thing. The electorate is proving that it will stand for a crazy person over a liar and a cheat, circa Angle, Pallidino etc. While not completely, I’m still holding out hope that the DNC will come to Hillary and beg her to run. I actually think that she and a prominent close all (eg Bayh)will mount a primary challenge in late ’11. And her machine that is in stasis will simply reactivate, and we will overrun any remaining obots.
Game, set, match.
Hillary 2012
It just gets better and better and better….
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101013/ap_on_re_us/us_ap_poll_students_cooling_on_obama
“Barack is so 15 minutes ago.”
The Rock, we don’t disagree here. I’ve blogged about that before. I just think 2 years a long way to go and it is *the Obama WH* who is thinking the anger will either boil over by 2012 or move back against the GOP by 2012. I was speaking of their calculations. And, that it shouldn’t be enough but if the GOP picks a crappy candidate (which there is a good chance of since they mostly have crappy candidates), O *may* slide by on his crap posturing.
Now this is different:
After watching that anime, I almost thought that you did it, myiq. Its hilarious and its true. Sounds like something you would do. Kudos!!
WTF?:
If I was advising Coons I would tell him NFW should he debate her.
She has nowhere to go but up.
CNN’s desperation becomes evident as they look to a crazy race to enhance their ratings. Why didn’t CNN do the same for the gov. race here in TX? Or the race in NY? or any of the other senate races in the country? May their ratings fall to 1,000,000 viewers worldwide, and only that high because CNN is on in airports…
Asshats.
I’m gonna tune in for a little bit.
If O’Donnell doesn’t come off like an airhead who knows what could happen.
Report back. I don’t want my ears to bleed.
I would rather watch the little capsule come up the shaft carrying a miner in slow motion, or even on pause, than watch that debate.
Great politician there. If she gets her name right she’ll come out ahead of the game.
In fact since it is all about 2012, Obama Inc NEEDS the GOP to take over at least the house this time ….so he can run against them two years down the road.
O will have two choices: Blame the GOP for his failed presidency or sign all the GOP bills, and the economy really tanks.
Either way, BOHICA
um, what does BOHICA stand for?
Bend Over Here It Comes Again
I heard Rove & Rushbo on talk radio today saying that it seems like the WH has “kicked Pelosi down the stairs”. Rove saying that the meme that Pelosi is to blame for Congress’ dismal performance probably came from the WH, Rushbo saying that after she went out and got the legislation that the WH wanted passed they are treatung her like Rev White.
Two stopped clocks right at the same time. Interesting
It’s getting really crowded under here.
We need a bigger bus.
See, I tell ya, Pelosi went along with giving up the Public Option and saying to tough luck to those over 45 for the Medicare Buy In and NOW look who is being thrown under the bus.
It is tough, but we have been under the bus sooooo Looooong that we have started doing some repairs and upgrades. 😉
Glenzilla:
The ad:
note the progressivevalues.com splayed at the end
Shorter Gibbs: “That was supposed to be OUR ad money!!! Waah!!!”
More GG:
Anyone remember Obama’s “Harry and Louise” ads against Hillary?
Rove is right when he accused Obama of hypocrisy. Obama was not transparent in disclosing his donors during the 2008 campaign.
He still isn’t.
You mean all those millions of small donor american citizens… Bwahahaha. God those Obots will believe anything.
and Kenya, Nigeria, and Gaza were bragging about those donations.
To quote TheRock “Asshats.”
Another karmic headline
http://www.npr.org/blogs/itsallpolitics/2010/10/13/130544364/nancy-pelosi-demonized-by-gop-democrats-alike?ft=1&f=1001&sc=tw&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
Speaker Nancy Pelosi Thrown Under Bus By Her Own
We tried to warn Nancy in 2008, but she called us “less than gracious.“
You know, us independent liberals are the DNC’s fucking nightmare:
DT sez crank it.
That’s chickenshit:
I believe this episode will be the new illustration of “being screwed” in the dictionary.
Heh:
Oh dear.
It begs the question:
How many other “off the record” meetings have there been, and who attended them?
On the bright side, they’re no longer willing to be pimped! What does that say about how these black bloggers/journalists feel about Obama these days!
LMFAO!
Ok – I accidentally left the tv on CNN. The debate has started.
It looks like a cat has been sucking on her hair.
You’re on the wrong thread.
rules, rules, rules
but what about her split ends?
LOL. Typical delusional Obot.
They can’t even start from Occam’s razor. They scratch and scratch their heads why he won’t run on his record because sophists like Ezra have them convinced Obama has an immaculate record of success to run on, he just has to make success popular!
I’ve can’t stop going to idiot right-wing websites like this.
You may want to try writing a more intelligible sentence if you’re going to call someone else an idiot. And, this is a liberal website.
Lol It never fails. When calling others idiots, always proofread. I’ve can’t understand why they won’t proofread. 😉
Great post, Wonk. I’d say “ditto” but I don’t want the guy’s head to explode. 😉
Thanks… I think this person’s head has already suffered enough for one night. I wouldn’t want it to explode, too.
Interesting name for a woman child that goes to art school in NYC and lives in Brooklyn.
Kool-Aid intoxication, evidently.
Kool-aid kills brain cells.
The racists on the right digusing as Democrats. how pathetic. I’ll keep coming back to confront you right-wing nutjobs.
Keep trying on that intelligible sentence thing.
Diguising is disgusting, and that’s why Halloween must be stopped! Good point!
Who will you vote for: the Messiah, the Maverick, or the Mama Grizzly? ooga booga
I don’t know–since you’ve been outed as a rac ist should you be worrying about Oompa Loompas? You have bigger problems. For example, being cogent and knowing standard usage.
Maybe he meant degaussing?
Lol Can’t we all agree that demagnetizing is a bad thing? Or possibly a good thing? A contextual thing?
Let’s enlist the good Ezra. He can make Demoralization popular.
I do know who you are and I do know where you go to school,so If you’d like your teachers to know that your hobby is trolling blogs, I’d be happy to arrange it.
so, you do know that the person who wrote this is a woman of color and there are several people commenting on the thread that are also people of color? I suppose they wake up in the morning and figure out ways to discriminate against themselves…. interesting concept
Obama fans don’t go by facts, they go by their own presumptions. They wouldn’t want to disturb their beautiful minds or divide-and-conquer narratives.
what was it in my frontpage post that even set off this Obot?
he never replied to the content of the post. he just launched off into why won’t all you wacists weave Obama awone!
what? calling people names isn’t an effective way of arguing a view point?
That’s what I don’t understand. If you’re going to troll, shouldn’t you at least have something intelligent to say? Look up some facts, muster a decent argument or two? The point of just making yourself look stupid is what, exactly? Do you think they just get so mad they can’t help themselves?
Sadly, our visitor is probably right now posting on FB how he bested us all in a pie fight.
He really thinks he won.
I’m more and more convinced that comments like yours come from Obots from across the seas.
I’ll let you see my voter registration card to see who I’ve been voting for my whole life, if I can see yours.
I’m not sure Questionman is all together there. Best to just ignore.
Is he like a super hero or something?
it’s a she … I’m getting pretty good at finding the troll behind the name these days. see above, I inkled hints. If you’d like her name and address in Brooklyn, I’d be happy to send it to Captain Spaulding.
I’ll stick with onlinebootycall.com, but thanks.
She’s a first year art student in NYC. Could be into emo kink.
Typical righty. thinking they know everything by making up facts. I’m a dude. and last time i checked, a liberal website DOESN’T support the possiblity of right wing nutjobs screwing over this country by hoping for the democrats to fail.
well, then you have a really weird name for a dude …
See what happens when you feed a troll?
Have you taken a close look at your “democrats”? How can you tell the difference. We’re liberals, so obviously we’re not into either corporatist party. If you like these new Democrats, then you’re a right wing pro monopoly corporatist.
That’s suspicious. You’re a dude and in 3 comments you haven’t Browned us? If you’re a Dem and a dude, prove it. Bring out the slurs!
When was the last time you checked? At the beginning of the last century? Or were you born yesterday?
Paul Douglas in 1932, as quoted by Thomas Frank in the WSJ last year:
shouldn’t you be watching Jersey Shore?
What crap is that! I depise the racist right-wing a-holes. i don’t belong to a corp party. i don’t even have a job yet.
you need to free your mind …. every considered turning off MTV?
How’s that public option working for you? Oh, right we don’t have it.
How’s the ending of the DADT policy working for you? Oh, right we don’t have that.
How’s the ending of the patriot act and online spying by the government working for you? Oh, right we just go more of that?
How’s your bailout working? Oh, right, you’re not an investment banker.
Already noticed on you resume you don’t have a job … better get used to it because they’re more interested in giving tax breaks to the rich and to big corporations than to first year art students.
Keep on rubbin it dearie, maybe something will come out, but it won’t be the good policy genie.
Well you seem well qualified for the POTUS spot.
Nice quote Wonk.
Can you maybe break down that paragraph a little? We don’t want to tax our friend’s amazing intellect.
Obama checklist:
are you bitter?
do you cling to guns and religion?
are you a xenophobe?
No job and in college = Mommy and Daddy can afford to keep him in arugala and sunchokes. He’s clean!
Don’t forget “homophobe.”
And art major in this economy? He’s gonna be unemployed for a long, long time.
Every parent’s dream son-in-law
“Mom, Dad, this is Trevor. He’s an artist“
you need to free your mind …. every considered turning off MTV?
This coming from a bunch a faux news followers. talk about trash TV. you i have a problem with, just like faux news. No facts, just make up bs using the rhetoric method.
sorry, don’t watch fox … but thanks for playing… ready for the ban list now?
Why are artists so obsessed with O? Is the shape of his head really the Platonic ideal? Are artists genetically preconditioned to respond to jug ears? That could explain the CDS, he disrupted their mad passion for Ross Perot?
But you’re doing an amazing job filling the facts deficit! I’ve learned so much from you!
Here’s why he’s unemployed. This is how his online resume starts:
Here’s what your Obama action figure hero had to say about Fox news in his mealymouthed response to Rolling Stone:
Here’s how the Big Dawg we support takes on Fox News. Clinton kicks the crap out of Fox News, Part 1:
Clinton Kicks the Crap out of Fox News, Part 2:
Isn’t the Art Institute of NYC the school that admits you if you trace the little cartoon turtle?
Idiot! No one’s hoping the Dems fail, we are stating the inevitability of it through cogent analysis.
The only one who wants the Dems to fail on Nov 2, aside from republicans, are Obot supporters and the big 0 himself.
Since he actually spelled “question” correctly, we can deduce that he must have a sidekick.
she
I say we out her to her profs and classmates.
We can call mom and dad too. I have that information.
That’s the O demographic, she’d probably get extra academic credit for Trolling, idiotic arguments and poor syntax.
I don’t know, with this person’s conversation skills, I’d guess people have already caught on.
I think we can safely invest our money in betting against this person’s school winning the national debating championship.
Obviously faux news have taught you all well. make up “facts” using the rhetoric method. you make Glenn Beck proud. typical right-wingers.
Glenn who?
and who let you out of spam?
😳
Once again… look at your dear Obama action figure hero’s response to RS above and then compare with Bill Clinton and how he took on Fox News. We support Bill Clinton. You support someone who chuckles about Fox News being like Hearst papers.
Is this your most proudest argument? It is undeniably very impressive.
You’re in spam now and every editor on this blog knows who you are. We’re not going to out publicly, but I may call your mama and tell her about your poor manners and name calling.
Move on to some other place with all that name calling Trollman.
“I think is ultimately destructive for the long-term growth of a country that has a vibrant middle class and is competitive in the world.”
OMG — Obama believes that we have a VIBRANT middle class? We have a DYING middle class. Thanks to HIS bailout of the bankers.