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Tuesday News: Voices Crying in the Wilderness

Good Morning Conflucians!!!!! Is anyone else getting the feeling that all hell is breaking loose in the U.S. political sphere? Maybe it’s just my usual apocalyptic viewpoint on events, but I’m getting a sense of time speeding up as we approach the midterm elections and a feeling that just about anything can happen.

Back in early 2008, Riverdaughter was banned from the orange place for calling out the mindless bands of Obots who were trying to shut down supporters of any other candidate than their messiah. Yes, she used the word “Jihad.” Here’s a sample of the diary that got her thrown out of the giant blog that had been taken over by Obama astroturfers:

They are zealous, our Movement Obamaphiles. We’re not quite sure what the Movement is all about except it has something to do with Unity. I thought we already had a Unity movement with Mike Bloomberg whose goal it is to “teach the world to sing in perfect harmony” and let uber rich middle aged white guys tell us how to sit nicely and lower our voices when we talk to Republicans.

Maybe the Movement is about getting people to sit around the table and come to some consensus, complete with trained negotiator and meeting facilitator. Wow! That sounds cool….

Obamaphiles have it made. They can pour their whole heart into their Movement. And they can look down on we poor Kossacks who don’t have anything to believe in. If only we would accept the Movement, our troubles would “melt like lemon drops a-way above the chimney tops”. We could stop worrying about people who have lost their jobs and their health insurance and their houses. We could give them hope! And states that are deep in debt and can’t cough up the money for SCHIP can use the power of their words to make it happen. And soldiers in Iraq who are on their third rotation can focus on the Change! that will come, just as soon as the embodiment of our Movement learns to do his job!

Bad, bad Goldberry was cast out of the Cheeto into the internet wilderness. Instead of just feeling sorry for herself, she established The Confluence. Other former orange place denizens found her new blog and joined her, and as more of the “progressive” blogs were taken over by the Koolaid drinkers, so did refugees from places like Firedoglake, Democratic Underground, and Talk Left.

In those days we were truly voice crying in the wilderness, trying all through the 2008 primaries to warn other liberals of the bad ending we saw coming for the Democratic Party if they nominated a guy with almost no experience and who thought Ronald Reagan was a “transformational” figure and that New Deal programs like Social Security should be cut and/or privatized.

Now, more than two years later, most of the “progressive” blogosphere is in an uproar, running around with their hair on fire, trying to stop the Obama Party (formerly the Democratic Party) from handing over the reins of government to the far right wing of the Republican Party. Sorry folks, when you nominate and elect a Republican in Democratic clothing that’s what happens.

So with that as background, let’s take a look at the latest political news from around the ‘net. Who knows how much longer we’ll be able to do that now that the Obama administration and Congress plan to start wiretapping every single form of electronic communication we have? See Wonk the Vote’s latest post for more on that.

Peter Daou, who was an adviser to Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign wrote snarkily yesterday about “How a handful of liberal bloggers are bringing down the Obama presidency.”

With each passing day, I’m beginning to realize that the crux of the problem for Obama is a handful of prominent progressive bloggers, among them Glenn Greenwald, John Aravosis, Digby, Marcy Wheeler and Jane Hamsher*.

Virtually all the liberal bloggers who have taken a critical stance toward the administration have one thing in common: they place principle above party. Their complaints are exactly the same complaints they lodged against the Bush administration. Contrary to the straw man posed by Obama supporters, they aren’t complaining about pie in the sky wishes but about tangible acts and omissions, from Gitmo to Afghanistan to the environment to gay rights to secrecy and executive power.

The essence of their critique is that the White House lacks a moral compass. The instances where Obama displays a flash of moral authority – the mosque speech comes to mind – these bloggers cheer him with the same fervor as his most ardent fans.

Of course *we* aren’t included in the list of liberal bloggers who “put principle before party” (even though that has been our battle cry since May 31, 2008). But that’s OK, we’re used to being dismissed at this point. Most of us are Independents now, we’ve given up on the Democratic Party. Perhaps the progbloggers that Daou praises will eventually follow us, but we don’t expect them to ever acknowledge that we were right.

As Daou argues, the Obama administration is frustrated by the pushback they are getting from the progbloggers. They apparently believed they could pull the wool over the eyes of every “progressive” and that none of them would ever notice the lies, the broken promises, the fact that the Democratic Party had duped them into working their asses off to elect a Republican President. Well some of them have waked up, and they sound just like we Conflucians did back in the spring of 2008. Unfortunately, it’s a bit late now to prevent the deluge.

It looks like Rahm Emanual is leaving the sinking ship this Friday and heading back to Chicago in hopes of becoming king mayor of the windy city.

Although no final decision has been made because of family considerations, ABC News has learned that White House officials are preparing for Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel to announce on Friday — as Congress adjourns for recess — that he is leaving his post to explore a run for mayor of Chicago.

White House officials expect that President Obama will also name an interim chief of staff, perhaps senior adviser Pete Rouse, at the announcement.

Sources close to Emanuel cautioned that he has yet to pull that last trigger on the decision.

Two of Obama top economic advisers, Christine Romer and Larry Summers are leaving, and David Axelrod and David Plouffe will be leaving to work on President Obama’s doomed endangered 2012 reelection campaign.

Vice President Joe Biden has emerged from obscurity to tell uppity liberals to quit “whining.”

Campaigning for Democratic candidates in New Hampshire, Vice President Joe Biden said Monday the party’s base should “stop whining.”

Biden attended a fundraiser for Rep. Paul Hodes, who is running for the Senate; Rep. Carol Shea-Porter, who is seeking re-election to a third term; and the state Democratic Party.

Biden said Democrats can win both races if they draw clear distinctions between themselves and their Republican opponents, and he urged Democrats to “remind our base constituency to stop whining and get out there and look at the alternatives. This president has done an incredible job. He’s kept his promises.”

[….]

Biden said Democrats will lose if the November election is a referendum on how people feel about the economy, but they’ll win if they emphasize the progress they’ve made and plans to build on it. He said he understands that someone looking for a job doesn’t have time to track the details of the new health care law or stimulus program, but he said Democrats should remind those voters that many of the benefits haven’t kicked in yet.

“We’ve made great progress, but to the guy or the woman sitting at their kitchen table without a job it doesn’t matter – they’re in trouble. We owe them an answer as to how we’re going to … now that the economy’s been stabilized, build it again,” Biden said.

Yeah, yeah, we know. More tax cuts for business and nothing that creates jobs or consumers. If all you’re offering is Republican solutions, why on earth do you expect liberals to support you?

President Obama himself has joined the chorus of administration figures chiding liberals:

Admonishing his own party, President Barack Obama says it would be “inexcusable” and “irresponsible” for unenthusiastic Democratic voters to sit out the midterm elections, warning that the consequences could be a squandered agenda for years.

“People need to shake off this lethargy. People need to buck up,” Obama told Rolling Stone in an interview to be published Friday. The president told Democrats that making change happen is hard and “if people now want to take their ball and go home, that tells me folks weren’t serious in the first place.”

The midterm elections are in five weeks and polling shows that Republicans, out of power at the White House and on Capitol Hill, have a much more excited base of supporters than Democrats. Obama, campaigning this week in four states, is in a sprint to restore the voter passion that helped him win office.

Bwaaaaahahahahahahah! He wants us to “buck up?” Good luck with that, Mr. President.

What are you seeing out there in the internet wilderness today fellow Conflucians? Please share your links in the comments, and remember “buck up” and “quit whining,” or you might have to be “drug tested.”

Have a terrific Tuesday!!!!

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  1. Americans don’t know much about religion:

    A new survey of Americans’ knowledge of religion found that atheists, agnostics, Jews and Mormons outperformed Protestants and Roman Catholics in answering questions about major religions, while many respondents could not correctly give the most basic tenets of their own faiths.

    Forty-five percent of Roman Catholics who participated in the study didn’t know that, according to church teaching, the bread and wine used in Holy Communion is not just a symbol, but becomes the body and blood of Christ.

    More than half of Protestants could not identify Martin Luther as the person who inspired the Protestant Reformation. And about four in 10 Jews did not know that Maimonides, one of the greatest rabbis and intellectuals in history, was Jewish.

  2. I saw an Obot still whining and complaining about Goldberry’s “jihad” comment just a week or so ago.

    The poor baby had his fee-fees hurted.

    • OMG, that’s a riot. I can’t believe any of them can remember anything after all that Koolaid.

  3. Is anyone else getting the feeling that all hell is breaking loose in the U.S. political sphere?

    Yes, BB. It’s like watching a bad movie, with nothing but bad guys and a predictable bad ending. One can walk out of a bad movie, but not the one playing in Washington.

  4. From bb’s roundup:

    “People need to shake off this lethargy. People need to buck up,” Obama told Rolling Stone in an interview to be published Friday.

    LMAO. He is copying Sarah P’s “buck up” to Turd Blossom. Only as usual, his copycatting is ass backwards. Sarah was telling it to the GOP establishment (that’s an FU from the bottom-up) . O’s telling it to the Dem grassroots (that’s an FU from the top-down.) I still wouldn’t vote for Palin, but this is just Politics 101 here.

    • Yup. And remember when Obama was preaching that government should be run from the bottom up instead of top down?

    • We live in backassward times when our Philisopher King is not only borrowing, but misusing lines from the dumbest person in America! This road leads to madness.

      • hmm. dumbest person in America. So Is Sarah Palin the philosopher king now? misusing the hopeychangey thing? 😉 /snark tag for the snark-impaired

        • Lol You’re going to have a very difficult time navagating your way through society if you don’t get up to speed on The Magic Penis concept, and pretty darn quick, too. 😉

  5. Great post and links–thanks, BB. It feels like so long ago, but it really wasn’t. And it really ticks me off that Obama is saying that ‘folks weren’t serious in the first place.’

    That’s a tin ear–more wagging finger at people. He has no idea how off putting that is, especially if you’re broke and watching him party.

    • The total inability to empathize with normal people is just beyond the pale. Maybe he’ll go to the grocery store and discover the joy of electronic checkout devices.

    • He certainly has my ire up. I think it just shows how out of touch he really is with the American people. He thinks they’re just having a “temper tantrum”. It sounds mighty close to the old Republican garbage about “pulling yourself up by your bootstraps”. When you have a heavy foot on your back, it’s hard to get up! It certainly hard to vote for your abuser!

  6. Maybe empathy is the word I’m looking for. If you’re already hurting having someone who isn’t tell you that you’re not serious is insulting. Obama has no capacity for empathy.

  7. “People need to buck up”???

    • Lol, now he’s talking down to everyone! I wonder what Jesse thinks of that….And his son has a baby problem I hear. I wonder why that came out? Did he want to run for mayor of Chicago or something?

  8. Speaking of hell breaking loose. This scumbag sets a personal record for being an offensive politician,

    Rep. Grayson Lowers the Bar

    http://factcheck.org/2010/09/rep-grayson-lowers-the-bar/

    • That’s awful.

    • NEVER liked Grayson.

      NEVER understood Digby’s cheerleading for him. (Well I do, cuz she’s a hack, but still)

      • Makes me miss the guy who lost the GOP primary who kept saying Grayson was the illegitimate child of Fred Flintstone.

      • Well, he is one person trying to help with the foreclosure problem in Fl. He’s not in my district but if he was, I would vote for him.

        • Scum is still scum, even with a smile.

          • If he helped me save my house, I’d vote for the devil.

          • And if you read that law proposal of Dan Burton’s it is not “woman friendly” by any stretch. Do you think he’s changed his mind. But as i said, if you live in Fl. and you are losing your house thru kangaroo retired judge courts. You’d be real happy to see Grayson fighting in your corner.

    • If he wanted real audio to save himself the trouble of editing, he should have stayed on Capitol Hill and brought the subject up at a meeting of the Dem Caucus. Well, I guess he’d still have to edit out all those words the FCC won’t allow.

  9. Where, oh where did the youth vote go?

    Obama team Still Looking to Fill Crowd for University of Wisconsin Rally

    President Obama[‘s] campaign found plenty of enthusiasm among students in the 2008 presidential race, but 2010 is another year — and with seats to fill at a Tuesday rally at the University of Wisconsin-Madison, the Obama team took the step of sending an e-mail message to supporters in search of an audience.

    The president is headed to Madison as part of a series of rallies in swing states leading up to the election. But where he drew a crowd of 17,000 at the University of Wisconsin in 2008 during the presidential race, crowds are expected to be significantly smaller this time around — so much so that the president’s campaign team, Organizing for America, sent out RSVP requests for Tuesday’s rally, featuring musician Ben Harper.

    “We’ve got a lot of work to do between now and November 2nd to keep moving America forward. But this movement has never backed down from a tough fight. I hope you can join me. If you haven’t already, please RSVP here. Hope to see you there, President Barack Obama,” reads the e-mail distributed Monday by Organizing for America.

    • Lol. How ever will Obama say “I love you back” to those empty seats 😉

    • I think that many are not attending because they are too afraid that their homes will wash away now that a 120 year old (yes, that is correct) “sand levee” in Wisconsin has failed and 100+ homes are in danger and massive flooding expected in other areas of the state.

      He wants us to come out and pay tribute when many people facing economic ruin could have been put to work on infrastructure projects all over this country, and resumed their middle class existences instead of relying on 120 year old sand levees to keep them safe until the bank forecloses on them!

    • When that demographic voted in 08, they voted for a product.
      It was packaged and marketed with great skill.
      Now that the product of new and improved turned out to be hope and change “lite” instead, that crowd has moved to other products.

      Obama is so last year.

  10. Gaaawwd! That man telling me to “buck up” rankles. Does he even get that he is supposed to have tried to do any of the things he promised?
    Nah. Classic narcissist. It’s up to everyone else to make it all better for him.

    Tom in Paine had a good post in which he says that the Dems’ only hope is to distance themselves from O. (http://bit.ly/9PAVvZ) The brand is definitely in trouble.

    Memory Lane: I didn’t like the guy back in early ’08 but it was when Geraldine Ferraro was reamed for calling it like it was that told me a fix was in.

    “If Obama was a white man, he would not be in this position. And if he was a woman (of any color), he would not be in this position. He happens to be very lucky to be who he is. And the country is caught up in the concept.” (http://www.dailybreeze.com/ci_8533832)

  11. I thought that in that Rolling Stones interview Obama’s arrogance just took a cosmic step up
    http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2010/09/28/you-didnt-really-deserve-me-quote-of-the-day/

  12. He’s already in major defensive mode. What’s next??

    • Lol! I misread your comment as “He’s already a major in defensive mode” and thought nah, it’s more like he majored in offensive mode. 😉

    • I agree it’s pathetic, he invokes Jim Crow in the second answer as the excuse for his failure to influence Republicans in the Senate and his excuse for the BP spill and not firing, your doing a good job Kenny, because we rubes need to realize ” this is a big government with a lot of people, and changing bureaucracies and agencies is a time-consuming”

  13. As usual, Glenn Greenwald hits the nail on the head. From his post on “Dem whining” accusations:

    Obama officials aren’t stupid: they must know that insulting disaffected Democrats and deriding their concerns as “whining” is not an effective get-out-the-vote strategy.

    What’s going on here seems clear. Each time there is a Democratic loss on the horizon, White House officials find someone to blame other than Obama; that happened with Martha Coakley, Creigh Deeds, and a whole slew of other Democratic defeats. By incessantly complaining now about the “irresponsible” “whiners” who aren’t sufficiently grateful to the Obama White House, they seem to be setting up in advance a nice excuse for Democratic defeat in November: it wasn’t anything we did to cause this; it was the fault of those whiny, unrealistic irresponsible liberals who didn’t cheerlead loudly enough. What seems to matter most is that Obama be exonerated for the Democrats’ electoral woes, even though he clearly bears substantial responsibility for much of it.

    Yup. It’s all about trying to protect Obama. But when even Jane Hamsher no longer blames Rahm Emmanuel, you’d better believe that ship has already sailed.

    • “The major bills touted by Obama supporters were the by-product of the very corporatist/lobbyist dominance which Obama the candidate repeatedly railed against.”

      This is what pisses me off about Glenn…

      because early on, HE, would trot out a handy list of bills to defend Obama.

      Saying Obama was on par with Bush would send Glenn into fits.

      NOW, he sees the light. Better late than never, but I must question the judgment and motives of someone who months ago was towing the same centrist line every other Obama defender was.

      C’MON SON!

  14. He and Biden need to STFU, if this is the GOTV strategy, dems are in bigger trouble than I thought.

    Gawd forbid they take a page from Big Dawg, don’t insult the voters, especially your “base” and especially 4 weeks till election day. Morans.

  15. Looks like BTD has a post up about this too. Am gonna check it out.

    • It’s still the t sandwich against the giant talking d (per Southpark)

      While I agree that voters should vote Dem (yes, they are largely the lesser of two evils, but here we are)

      I don’t want lesser of two evils, I want a NEW DEAL and a fair deal.

      • ugh. did Armando say that? Not surprising if he did, just wanted to know who said it without having to go to talkleft right now.

        Oh and I don’t want to vote for the evil of two lessers, I want to vote for a candidate who actually knows how to govern or legislate and how to champion government that works for the people.

      • Arrrrg!!! *bangs head on the wall* I understand the fear of giving an election to the R’s, I truly do. But do NONE of these people consider long-term consequences? There is more at stake here than one election.

        I want them all to answer one very simple question for me: “What, exactly, is going to make the Democratic Party start listening to you, fearing your displeasure, and acting to placate you?” WHAT??? What is going to make them? Where the hell is your leverage, and when do you start using it?

        What consequences are imposed on the Dem party for time after time kicking you to the curb? None at all, because YOU have MADE them secure in the knowledge that you will bitch and moan and yell and scream and blog and threaten and be outraged and……. go pull that D lever every fucking time.

        I am honestly beginning to think the progbloggers are just flat stupid. As in remarkably unintelligent. Because they have over 2 years watched the far right give a real-time object lesson in “How To Make A Political Party Jump When You Say Jump”, but they ignore it, and continue to wring their hands. The GOP isn’t pissing itself to move right because all those GOP politicians are really all that right. It is because they KNOW that the conservatives will flat not vote for them if they don’t. They proved that with McCain, and in multiple primaries.

        The Democratic Party is NEVER going to move left out of sheer gratefulness for all the hard work of the progbloggers. If you believe that, you are not merely naive and hopeful, you are a CERTIFIABLE IDIOT WITHOUT A FIRING BRAIN CELL IN YOUR HEAD. Politicians don’t know from grateful. They know POWER, and that is what they respond to. And power is the one thing that the left continually refuses to exercise.

        I’m just sick of it. I’m completely uninterested in any of their criticisms of the Dems or Obama until they get a clue and start talking about withholding their votes from these jerkwads. Until then, all they are doing is same as they have ever done: whine and moan then line up like sheep to reward the Dems for ignoring them. And when you reward behavior in a political party, you get more of it, not less.

        • Back in April I wrote a two part essay called “Hold out vs. Sold out: Connecting the dots between 2008 and 2010”. I know at TC I’m preaching to a choir when I write on the Hold Out/Sold Out connection, but the progs DO read what we say, and like Helen Thomas, I “want their conscience to bother them.” Unfortunately the progs are so clueless they can’t even see the connection even if you literally connect each dot in slow-motion for them.

        • Honk!

  16. We’re like Oliver in the Dickens classic begging for more gruel. That or we’re not all masochist.

  17. Hey BB!! Great round up! Thx for doing this for me! I was on a roll yesterday but sputtered out by the time thinking about this morning’s post came into play!

  18. CNN just sent out a breaking news email and tweet that Jimmy Carter was taken to hospital with some unknown problem.

  19. Carville’s hitting me up for money for Coons.

  20. Yes and here we go again and I truly believe this is the only Political strategy the Obama Political Machine has the imagination the use…..

    Saint Obama under attack, again, irrationally of course, and again by That section of the formerly not needed Base now newly named “unenthusiastic Democratic voters”. The sins this time, or so the Obama-Biden tale goes, is the groups rejection of Obama as irrational, “inexcusable”, apathetic, not serious, “irresponsible”, and so asleep as to be incapable of grasping Obama’s hard working wonderfulness as real. And as proof of his (Obama) righteous indignation and rant against the Unenthusiastic Democratic voters rejection of his accomplishments as myth, he offers his own checklist which he says he keeps of his campaign promises and by his reality his determination that he has meet about 70 percent of them.

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100928/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_obama_interview_2

    • The Ds keep on bullying the electorate and then wondering why they “vote against their interests.” People aren’t voting against their interests, Dems. They’re voting against YOU.

      • Ohio started voting today and I’m just hoping the polls are wrong, if not this State is going Scarlet.

    • Miss Donna told me she didn’t need me any more to win elections, so I’m just taking her word for it.

      • Me too. I’m just assuming the Obots can do it without me. Oh, the Obot ranks are thinning?

        Too bad, so sad.

      • Remember when Donna B. said she would leave the Party if the nomination of the ‘ 08 candidate was decided in a smoke filled back room by party insiders instead of the voters?

        ( That’s when Hillary was ahead in Super Ds.)

        ( Notice how he was chosen and how she didn’t leave the Party ?)

        That is so transparent.
        Looks like the Party may just leave her.

        And I agree with WMCB. The Dems need a big wake up call. They need to lose and it needs to be bad. Let Obama have a Rep house and a torn Senate. Investigations into a few things might not be bad.
        If the Dems grow a spine and do something, they can come back in 2 years.

    • peeps–I love that ‘the formerly not needed base’. We need that on a tee shirt.

  21. The president told Democrats that making change happen is hard and “if people now want to take their ball and go home, that tells me folks weren’t serious in the first place.”
    *********
    Is this a the method of psychological self-preservation for a pathological narcissist, when millions of people now call him a fraud?? His Capt. Ahab behavior toward FOX “News” is also getting weird.

    The pressure on this man is going to increase exponentially after Jan 2011. I predict that he will be crazier than Nixon by 2012; a very unsettling thought, IMO.

    • I swear, if I hear about MY non-seriousness one more time, instead of voting socialist or green, I’m voting R. And I am dead serious. Then the whining brat in chief and his team can take their ball and go home. Please!

    • SHV:

      Is this a the method of psychological self-preservation for a pathological narcissist, when millions of people now call him a fraud??

      Yes, it is. Pathological narcissists are extremely manipulative. They will do anything to keep their sources of adoration and appreciation from going away.

  22. voting socialist or green, I’m voting R.
    ***********
    I voted straight Green in 2008 but I am about at the same point that you are. I am caught in the guilt trip of if I vote Green then it’s basically abstaining from a decision but if I vote R then I am endorsing their wacko fascist theocratic agenda. Unfortunately the R agenda isn’t that much different then the D agenda. Maybe another abstention this time around is best, but it still bothers me.

    • An additional thought….If, in a remote chance that I vote R, it would be with the “Cancer” ie Obot invasion of the Dems and potential cure, radiation/chemotherapy analogy. Unfortunately the Dem party may be so damaged that there is no possibility of a cure, even with the most drastic treatment.

      • One could use a termite analogy also. It is so damaged it has to be torn down so a new structure can go up. Obots as termites.

      • That’s so funny. I was thinking of writing the cancer analogy. But, no, the sooner we’re rid of this party the better. Kill it off, I say. Then O can wander off someplace and pretend he can play basketball (yeah, I’d love to see him doing wind sprints). Ha! I’ve been turned off by this fraud ever since he lectured black men about their obligations – he was who raised in the white middle class and knows nothing of the ghetto. What arrogance. Now he thinks he can lecture me? Hey, O, watch this – me, a lifelong liberal, voting R!

      • tried the chemo/radiation route in 2008, but it was one time only, it didn’t work, and the one downticket D I was rooting for and voted for lost.

        I think instead of trying to treat this terminal inoperable cancer at all anymore I’m getting closer to where I’d find it more productive to go to the beach on voting day instead. The conservatives sat out 2008 so that felt different and felt like we would have been able to extract some things from McPalin if our protest votes had worked. 2010 is different. The conservatives are energized this time. They can unwittingly do the chemo/radiation for us. I don’t want to help either cancerous parties.

        • I’m splitting my vote this time and basically making my vote based on what my community needs. I’m voting D for Senator (Charlie Melancon) just because Vitter is the worst and also for a democratic woman for LT Governor because some one has to try to offset Jindal. I’m voting for a republican for congress because the dem in the race is a sleazy crook and that’s the last thing New Orleans needs. I have no doubt that the federal attorney is looking into his slush fund from the state senate right now.

          Like I said, it’s purely based on local politics for me.

          • that totally makes sense. Local politics is the most important level to vote at. If I vote, I’ll be voting D for governor because Goodhair should lose even though he won’t. I don’t really have much feeling to vote D for anything else though. They don’t deserve it and I’m sick of them asking for my $$$$

    • I won’t be voting for many people. The only thing that prevents me from voting Republican as a protest is that I don’t want them to think they have any mandate either.

      • I’ve heard a few people say they will base it on polls. I.e. if their strategy is punishing the Dem for being a corporate toady wanker, they will sit it out or vote Green if he’s losing to the R anyway, so as not to give the R a landslide. But they might do a strategic R vote if it’s really close.

        Most non-Obot liberals I know are taking it case by case and playing it by ear as far as voting strategy goes. Me, I’m not going to dump on whatever course anyone takes.

        • Well, it makes sense for them to hippie bash. They’re trying to get the independents back in the fold. They think liberals have no place else to go.

          • That’s also why the obot apologist troll army is back to saying marginally better is still better

          • The Independents are GONE. O has lost them for this election cycle.

          • I have news for them. The Left and the youth turning out in big numbers is their only hope, and that’s who they are bashing, the idiots.

            Independents are gone already. Gone. Independents know damn well that the progressive left got Obama elected. And Independents with no particular ideology were willing to come along for the ride, and give the left a chance, to see if the left did better than Bush. There was an opportunity to keep independents on board, and allay their skepticism, but the Dems blew it. The only way to move Independents left for more than one election is to give them liberal policies that WORK. Obama failed to do that. Sorry, Obama, but that ship has sailed.

            That’s what these morons don’t get. In betraying the left, you lost the independents also. Not because they are naturally left-leaning, but because they will go along with the tide so long as the tide is working. If it’s crap, then they drift back to the other side.

            Chasing the Independents at this point is chasing ephemera, and ignoring your base of power.

          • Heh, Wonk, we posted at the same time! Yes, it is obvious that the Independents are gone for this cycle.

  23. So Obama is implying that it is the voters’ fault that the Democrats are going to loose? Isn’t that the point? Voters get to vote in general elections rather than rigging caucuses and Rules committees like in a nomination. Did he just figure this out? Do they understand just how ridiculous they are? I guess not or they would not keep doing it. He sounds like he is loosing his marbles.

    • It’s easy if you understand how he’s won elections in the past. He’s always had to use dirty tricks to come through primaries but once he’s gotten through the primary he’s been in a series of basically safe elections where they outcomes were virtually guaranteed. But, if you read his books, he feels he scored great victories and got huge mandates. This is a different situation for him and his entire identity as a winner is threatened. This is really bad news for some one who who is so obviously narcissistic … it can’t be his fault. He’s a ‘proven’ winner … some one must be doing this to him.

  24. I am wondering who will report on this?
    March for Medicare for All on October 2nd
    http://www.healthcare-now.org/march-for-medicare-for-all-on-october-2nd/

    A part of this:
    One Nation Working Together Rally
    http://www.onenationforpeace.org/

    I remember going to INDY media online to watch the coverage of the protests of Bush during his inaugural in 2001. I was able to purchase a video of it. The protesters were immensely clever and committed.

  25. Well, in Ari Berman’s just released book “Herding Donkeys”:

    Howard Dean basically says that “Obama’s style of governance” just stiffed-armed the progressive base and didn’t give a damn about what policy changes they wanted (no surprise around here!):

    (“The majority of the book looks at the efforts by former DNC Chairman Howard Dean to build a national network that could immunize the party from becoming either marginalized or regionalized. But the epilogue charts out how the style of Obama’s governance drained the type of voter enthusiasm that, Dean acknowledges, was critical in those efforts.”)

    According to Dean:

    “The White House began to believe that they could mobilize their supporters without hearing what their supporters really wanted in terms of specific change,” Dean is quoted as saying. “The principal problem with OFA is the same one the president’s having. You can’t dictate to your base what’s going to happen. It’s got to be a two-way deal, and it hasn’t been.”

    and…

    “I’m not looking to pick another fight with Rahm Emanuel, but the contempt with which he held the progressive wing of the party was devastating and incredibly demoralizing,” Dean said. “That’s basically saying to your own people — you got us here, now FU.”

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/09/28/dean-called-rahms-contemp_1_n_741942.html:

  26. I really wonder if that “Progressive Base” cringes as much as I do at the reality of what Obama and Biden are really saying:

    “Stop your whining”… you insignificant, “inexcusable, apathetic” dumb a$$e$ and just give me your money and votes and crawl back in your insignificant little holes and STFU!’

    • This reminds me of masters that beat their dogs for fighting because the poor dogs have to fight for scraps under the table.

      • Ooooh, that is so, so tragically true, Dak, it hurts!

        And, I can’t stand finding myself feeling sorry for them, especially knowing two years ago that these days would come!

  27. OT but Air Force One’s just about to take off from Kirtland AFB (forgot O had arrived yesterday and spent the night).

    From my vantage point on Abq’s West Mesa I used to love to watch AF1 take off when the Big Dawg was aboard; this time I’m going to watch just to make sure that duplicitous fake Dem aboard actually leaves my town.

    Okay–taxiing even as we speak. So far so good…

    • It seems like the English Labour Party has succeeded in electing the real deal by choosing Ed Miliband.

      • Oops, wasn’t ment as a reply to you Land’O, but … good luck. 😉

        • Oops, wasn’t ment as a reply to you Land’O, but … good luck.

          Thanks Pips. I’m sure the One has actually cleared NM airspace by now, at least the stench of mendacity has faded to a faint tang…

          Interestingly, there didn’t seem to be any bigwigs there to see him off, at least there were none within camera range.* Of course he’d come into town to “help” our current Lt. Gov. in her uphill battle for governor against the loathesome Susana Martinez, and I’m sure there was at least a little ceremony attending his arrival yesty, but there didn’t seem to be anyone waving bye-bye today.

          * by the time I turned on the noon news he was already on the plane, and as soon as it began to taxi I ran outside to watch the takeoff&etc. live, but I don’t ever remember the Dawg or even Dubya boarding that plane with no one but news crews to see them off.

  28. Is anyone going to read the Rolling Stone Interview with Obama? I’m not sure I can stomach it.

    http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/17390/209395?RS_show_page=0

    • it’s not that hard to read, it’s the same old talking points

      —he whines a lot that Repubs are opposing him (um again Ogenius, it’s called politics).
      –he keeps up his war with Fox News but even that is mealymouthed and just gives Fox unnecessary ammo
      –peep already got this one above, but he says he’s accomplished 70% of what he promised and it’s still early yet! (he repeats this meme again toward the end)
      –this one is a hoot: he thinks he’s more focused on governance than politics
      –says his financial reform significantly improved oversight of the derivatives market
      –compares himself to FDR to defend himself against the charge that he’s filled his Admin with Goldman Sachs and friends: “There is no doubt that I brought in a bunch of folks who understand the financial markets, the same way, by the way, that FDR brought in a lot of folks who understood the financial markets after the crash”
      –says he decides everything, from financial reform to Afghanistan, by looking to a North Star/core principles ( to which I thought: if these decisions are a reflection of his core principles, his core principles are atrocious)
      –says he’s surprised business is calling him anti-business… then tries to act like the populist hero: “The average American out there who is my primary concern and is making 60 grand a year and paying taxes on all that income and trying to send their kids through school, and partly as a consequence of bad decisions on Wall Street, feels that their job is insecure and has seen their 401(k) decline by 30 percent, and has seen the value of their home decline — I don’t think they’re that sympathetic to these guys, and neither am I.”
      –gave a diplomatic answer re: McChrystal
      –completely bullshits on Afghanistan, Gulf oil spill, and climate change
      –he repeats this type of line: “Am I satisfied with what we’ve gotten done? Absolutely not.”
      –there’s a weird exchange on DADT where he’s actually patting himself on the back for his Admins efforts and the interviewer responds “You get credit for that.”
      –totally Orwellian and bs-ing on torture: “When people start being concerned about, ‘You haven’t closed Guantánamo yet,’ I say, listen, that’s something I wanted to get done by now, and I haven’t gotten done because of recalcitrance from the other side. Frankly, it’s an easy issue to demagogue. But what I have been able to do is to ban torture.”
      –Keeps pushing the meme that he’s a very moral president: “What I’m very proud of is that we have, as an administration, kept our moral compass, even as we’ve worked through these very difficult issues. Doesn’t mean we haven’t made mistakes, but I think we’ve moved the country in a profoundly better direction just in the past two years.” (Again, pretty dense of him to keep pushing the decisions he’s been making as indicative of his moral compass. All it does is indicate he doesn’t have much of one if that’s what’s at the basis of junk insurance mandate, bailing out Wall Street and wringing your hands when it comes to Main Street, state secrets, torture, failing war, etc.)
      –talks about what’s on his ipod, which includes not only Jay Z now but Lil Wayne and Nas
      –talks about Dylan and McCartney
      –says this about MO and kids: “Whenever I think about my wife, she can choke me up. My wife and my kids, they’ll get to me.”
      –Suddenly after his comment about his family, this note from the interviewer: “Signaled by his aides, the president brings the interview to a close and leaves the Oval Office. A moment later, however, he returns to the office and says that he has one more thing to add. He speaks with intensity and passion, repeatedly stabbing the air with his finger.”
      –He gives the “Buck Up” lecture. The End.

  29. Horrible landslide in Mexico with as many as 1,000 feared dead.

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/09/29/3024472.htm?section=justin

  30. Tornado watches in the Northeast again–this time even in Mass.

    Ack!

  31. Not even the state that sent him likes him.

    Public Policy Polling.

    Obama in Illinois

    The Illinois poll we’ll release this week won’t do much to change the conventional wisdom on either the Senate or Gubernatorial race in the state but it does have one pretty surprising finding: Barack Obama’s approval numbers have dropped into negative territory even with likely voters in his home state. 44% approve of the job he’s doing while 49% say they disapprove.

  32. h/t Political Wire.


    More Americans Blame Obama for the Economy

  33. Here’s a good one from FDL:

    Dear President Obama: I’m just not that into you any more.

    • Also, Emptywheel has a good post to the “Obama can’t fix the economy” crowd. On how he made the foreclosure problem worse. By the way the Grayson attempt to stop foreclosures in Fl Supreme Court has been denied. The Judge Charles Canady was part of the impeachment against Clinton.

  34. The way I see it, a GOP win this November means that there will be changes in the Democratic Party. It’s their chance to renew a party that’s unresponsive to the voters.

  35. Great post, bb. Thanks.

  36. You know your just a little bit sick when you put up links like this. lol http://www.huliq.com/10061/ny-post-john-boehner-affair-smear-coming-ny-times

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