Think Virtually Speaking is the only game in town? Not so fast. We started Conflucians Say a couple of years ago. It’s kind of like The View except we’re unpaid, political junkies who no one has ever heard of. One thing is for sure: we are the other side of the lefty blogosphere. You know, the ones who got it right? Not that we’re keeping score or anything.
Join us tonight to find out whether RD can remember how to work the damn switchboard. We’ll go over current events from the bitter knitters’ POV.
It’s tonight at 9:00pm EST on blogtalkradio.
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The Confluence 
The chat is up!
I don’t find it on the page!
I wait for it to load and my browser keeps crashing
Yeah, I was told I need to upgrade flash.
I seem to have to upload an update to I tunes to get it. It goes very slow.
I can hear DT but not RD very well
bb, I think I just heard you say you’re not enthused about Patrick. You might want to check out jillstein.org
Grace Ross didn’t even get enough sigs to get on the primary ballot. Typical!
OK, thanks! I haven’t been paying much attention to the governor’s race.
My father was talking to a pollster, I left and came back more than an hour later, he’s still talking to the pollster. Lol
LOL! I know this experience.
I think it was push polling, because he was telling them it wasn’t true and he wouldn’t vote for anyone who lied so brazenly. I considered hollering “You voted for Obama!” but refrained. 😉
Seriously and Wonk, it was so lonely in the chat room without you. I tried to call in at one point, but I think I got a busy signal. Great show, though! You guys are fabulous!
I’m sorry you didn’t get through. It would have been great to hear your voice again.
I was happy to hear yours 🙂
Yea, sorry too. Next time!!!
Sorry, Littleisis, I forgot all about you. And the switchboard vanished! Can I give you a raincheck?
It’s all right. I’ll call in next time when you’re not having problems with your switchboard. The chat room was fun anyway, I got to talk to DandyTiger
Vanished? As in Poof!? That’s strange.
Great show!
Literally. Two tabs in Firefox, GONE! It’s unnatural.
I gotta fix Chrome.
Sorry, it took ages to get the player working, then my friend’s uncharged phone kept shutting down. 🙂
Great show guys, yay! Who else was there besides bb, rd, and DT?
BB, KB, Kat. I lost the switchboard. ;-(
I had the same problem except my laptop battery kept going out
I’m glad there was a fifth person, because it seemed like there were 4, then I got booted and when I returned, it really seemed like there were 5. I was a little concerned about my mental state. 🙂
I’m always concerned about my mental state.
if you weren’t concerned about your mental state, you’d be an Obot
Me too, but the extra disembodied voice part would be new.
I’m not allowed to talk about the voices in my head.
It’s hard to imagine the voices in your head being anything less than delightful. 🙂
I didn’t get a chance to mention this story, but another middle school child has committed suicide after being tormented and harrassed by bullies.
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/metropolitan/7220896.html
Oh, that’s so sad.
oh no. 😦
He went to Cy Fair ISD. Sigh.
Ugh. The school’s response is just disgusting.
It’s a nation-wide epidemic. Schools need to have anti-bullying programs, even if it takes {gasp!} government regulation.
What’s a nationwide epidemic, bullying or suicide because of it?
Bullying is a constant. Suicides triggered by bullying are becoming epidemic.
They do. But sometimes, schools can go too far in the opposite direction. Remind me to tell you sometime about Brook’s Facebook page.
Ri-ght, because he threw himself down the stairs and then killed himself for the hell of it.
I knew a girl who was hazed in gym and kicked in the stomach by another kid. She told her parents, they told the school, and all that happened was the nurse asked her, “That didn’t really happen, did it?”
An article about my friend Eric, who was also bullied to death.
http://www.zimbio.com/Eric+Mohat
I still miss him and Meredith 😦
LI, so sorry to hear about your friend.
God, that’s so horrifying. I’m so sorry.
I’m so sorry, Littleisis.
I got slammed over the head in German class with a textbook and the teacher wouldn’t do anything about it.
LI, I’m so sorry about your friend.
Stories like the one Seriously mentioned above are so common. Schools really do need to do more, especially my High School. They’ve had five suicides in the past two years, four of which were bully related. The last one was a Croatian and she was a relative of a friend of mine. It just has to stop and every time I hear these stories it just makes it worse.
Let’s hope there will be action now that Mass. has passed the anti-bullying law. What happened to that boy was assault.
Bullying like that is a crime and should be treated as such.
Also, kids are scared. Whenever there’s a bullying suicide, people talk about the psychological pain, which of course is very real, but a lot of kids are also terrified of being physically hurt or killed and I’m sure that plays a part in many suicides too. The person who kicked this girl was really scary and loved knives and blood and everyone was waiting for him to snap. Just because we’re dealing with kids doesn’t make those fears invalid.
That’s a good point. In seventh grade I was bullied by a girl who liked violence, ect, I remember she had dead, empty eyes and she literally terrified me. It wasn’t until years later I realized she must have been emotionally disturbed, because a friend of mine told me that she had been molested by one of her foster parents. I didn’t know that at the time, I just remember feeling very scared.
(((Littleisis)))
IMO schools don’t need anti-bullying programs so much as adults have to start behaving like mature grown-ups and stop bullying each other.
Bush Republicans were bullies (remember how the Dixie Chicks were treated and the rallies where CDs were smashed?). Obama Democrats were bullies all through the campaign, and they still are. And it’s by no means only in political discussion, bullying behavior among adults is where the epidemic is being fueled.
We can’t program-out or regulate-out behavior that adults are teaching to children.
😦 That brings back bad memories.
Book recommendations:
The Lonely Polygamist by Brady Udall
Faithful Place by Tana French
My Life as a Night Elf Priest by Bonnie Nardi
I could swear I heard somebody say House of Cards right when everything went dark.
That was me
Yay, score two for non-hallucinations! Big day for me!
Well, it seems like old times!!!
Yeah, that was fun. Does someone else want to host next time?
One more recommendation wrt the religion thing. Check out The Brick Testament. Takes the gravitas right out of the Bible. And it’s all straight from scripture.
And related, check out Julia Sweeney’s blog:
http://juliasweeney.blogspot.com/
And a short version of her “letting go of god” bit:
OMG, Sweeney’s piece is so funny. Like her advice to the Mormons who came knocking at her door, “Next time you do this sort of thing, you might not want to start with this story”
Yea, just finished listening myself (after recommending it, snort). That was great.
Listening now and giggling.
I love the Brick Testament. You put it on a thread a few weeks ago. I tumblred lego Jacob going through Leah’s back door, like, twenty times.
Isn’t it hilarious? But it’s just exactly what is written in the Bible translated into little pieces of colored plastic. It couldn’t be simpler.
Not to be missed. I was just going through the Diseases of the Head. What did the early Hebrews have against bald guys?
IDK what their deal was. Leviticus is one of the most hilarious books, IMO. I used to read it out loud at my mom’s Bible study. “Though shalt not lay with thy mother in law. i am your God. Thou shalt not lay with thy sister in law. I am your God. Though shalt not lay with a goat as he would a woman. I am your God.” It still makes me laugh.
Here’s my book recommendation–to help you understand the Obama administration:
Without Conscience: The Disturbing World of the Psychopaths Among Us,
by Michael Hare
Sounds like a good christmas present for my mom. She loves this sort of stuff.
What sort of stuff? It’s not pop psychology or anything. It’s a fairly scholarly book.
She’s fairly well read. She can handle scholarly if it’ interesting enough.
Yep, that’s him in a nutshell.
I think I just made a pun.
Good book!
Who’s still talking on the show? Are you guys still talking? Or is that re-running the show?
Or maybe that’s the next show, and I’m just listening live…
Oh cool, it was an older episode of Conflucians Say. Never mind. 🙂
That happened to me in the beginning. I heard RD talking about Nancy Pelosi and the convention.
Same thing happened to me too.
Was I schnockered? I was drinking pear cider tonight but I didn’t even get a buzz.
No, you sounded cogent. It was before the orchestrated financial collapse so it was when Obama was heading down hill fast.
I still think he would have lost then without that, regardless of Bush. Which of course means, 2012 might be a problem for him.
Oh no! Mike Dukakis says he “popped in” to the White House recently to share his strategy for the upcoming midterm elections.
Gee, how original!
ROTFLMAO
Did it involve a very big tank and an even bigger helmet?
lol
Think he took Susan Estridge with him?
Next Gore and Donna will be stopping by with some advice.
Walter Mondale’s still alive, right? Barney Frank should do 5 minutes of comedy on this get-together.
He could tell a few jokes about Carter’s airsickness at the same time!
Hey, George McGovern is still alive too…
He is? :O
I know, I thought of him when I heard about the airsickness thing. 🙂 I didn’t want to be mean to McGovern, but they can hold an election night gala at the Kennedy Center, “Cavalcade of Losers: No Clintons Allowed!!!”
Littleisis,
George McGovern endorsed Obama. The kiss of death.
How did he escape? I hope someone came and picked him up.
Lol “Did you give your advice to the President, Mike?”
“No, better! I went into great depth with the guys who came to escort me from the premises!”
Poor guy, he doesn’t even get one of Biden’s self-aggrandizing big fish stories where he pretends he told off Bush.
Oh, isn’t this just duckie?
let me repeat Markos Moulitsas, one of OBAMA’S MOST POINTED CRITICS ON THE LEFT!!!
Hell musta froze over for certain!
WTF?! If he is considered a “pointed critic,” the professional left is in deep sh*t.
it’s Glen Thrush at Politico … go read it … I wish myiq2xu were around to give it a send off… it’s unbelievable!
LOL
They don’t make pointy critics like they used to. Why is he surprised, 2 years ago insulting voters was the height of political genius. What changed?
I thought you wrote, “they don’t make pointy headed critics like they used to.”
What’s changed? Marcos is now among the whining base that needs to “buck up”. Everyone’s a critic these days!
Lol And he seems to be taking it rather personally.
I don’t know what the frickin hell Kos is complaining about. He’s being called a whiner not a racist. Asshat.
Not that long ago he was claiming Hillary darkened Obama’s skin in an ad!
If only Joseph Cannon were still blogging.
Oh, god. I almost forgot about that. And remember that idiot’s diary that detailed “caucus fraud” because Latinas don’t marry Caucasians and people in Nevada don’t have Noo Yawk accents? The stupid, it burns.
That cracks me up. How is any of this different than what Obama said about PA voters? What is exactly new here? Jeebus.
Things didn’t pan out like kos wanted, jobwise. He now understands that he’s just another bitter gun-totin’ Bible clinger.
He reminds me of the democratic version of Phyliss Schafly and Concerned Women of America. The Reagan Bush folks sure used her but wouldn’t even appoint her as a crossing guard.
I think Kal Penn got his job 😉
Lol It came down to a hot-off and kos was scraped off the cosmic shoe and sent packing….
Who is this “they” of whom you speak, you tiny little overcompensating wannabe? That would be you. And your nasty juvenile Obot army. Same tactics.
Maybe next Obama will give you the sly finger and brush you off his shoulders. Because we all know that’s so freaking hilarious when he does that. Isn’t it. Isn’t it? Maybe he’ll play “I got 99 problems and a Prog Ain’t One” at his next rally. That would be knee-slapping good.
STFU complaining, Markos. He has ALWAYS been arrogant and dismissive. This is not new. He is not behaving any differently than he has always behaved, behavior that you and yours cheered and defended. You just figured you had sucked up hard enough that you’d never be on the receiving end. Cry me a fucking river.
I hope that it is very clearly revealed to the entire American public what PISS POOR judges of character the progressive blogosphere are. I hope that any political opinions you offer in the future will be viewed with the laughter, distrust, and contempt that you deserve. I hope that a big fat “O” brand stays burned into your hides as a mark of shame in the public eye.
How’s that NewsWeek gig going? Welcome to irrelevancy, asshat. Welcome to being the joke and laughingstock of the whole country. Welcome to marginalization. I hope you choke on it.
yup, I like that … the scarlet “O” festooned with Greek columns right on their foreheads like ash marks
I think all these former Obots who now act like this need a permanent mark after they take off the uniform, kind of like as seen in the movie Inglorious Bastards.
They sold their souls – no, they sold OUR COUNTRY – for “access”. It wasn’t about good policy, it was about who (they thought) was young and hip enough to surely give them a prominent seat at the table and make them
I don;t believe for one minute that half of these idiots actually thought Obama would make better decisions than Hilary. They just figured he’d be more likely to suck up to them and let them share in his newfound power. He was their ticket to the big leagues, baby.
He’s been screwing up the country for 2 years and barely a peep from them. No, they are suddenly critical and affronted because he is disrespecting THEM. So long as he was just screwing over the country, they were pretty much cool with that.
I have nothing but contempt for Markos and his cowardly, craven, self-important ilk. There’s not a principle they wouldn’t sell out for their own political celebrity. Color me unimpressed that they stuck their finger in the wind and figured they’d better go anti-Obama to save their own dwindling clout.
I doubt Kos or any of them have really gone anti-Obama. Kos’ idea of pointy asshat criticism during the HCR debate was to put up that progressive banner of “Let’s get reform done right” or whatever the hell it was AFTER the writing had long since been on the wall that the public option was a bait and switch and the only “reform” that would be “done” would be a junk insurance mandate.
Progressives are less intelligent than people in organized crime. A lot of whom try to get out of it because they know it’ll catch up to them eventually. They clap their little hands with glee and have to arrange 24 hour shifts because they’re so busily occupied throwing people under the bus, then when they feel this weird sensation and find themselves flying through the air and landing choking on exhaust fumes, they’re completely gobsmacked as to what’s happening to them and they never saw it coming. Because they’re such special, special snowflakes that they’d never share the same fate as–every other person Obama’s ever come in contact with in his political career. Of course!
Honk, honk, honk!
I think the world just turned upside down. :O
Markos isn’t even an actual Obama critic, let alone one of the most pointed ones.
Oh and Markos 2010 is reaping what Markos 2008 sowed:
Where’s my baseball bat? I need to hit something.
evidently when he as talking about Biden waging war on the enemy he was talking about the Democratic Base
Apparently the base is and was the enemy.
Well, Miss Donna says she can win elections without us, so fine by me … I’ll just spend the day in the quarter eating beignets.
I’d vote for them, but I’ll be busy then. I haven’t decided how yet, but I have a feeling I will be.
The base is staying home. Now what?
All the years of chasing Indy and Repub votes will finally pay off? This year the youth vote will manage to get up on Tues instead of sleeping till Wed and wondering if the polls are still open?
yup, Obama even told them this wasn’t an ‘academic exercise’ so they should know now!!!
Indys are G-O-N-E, Republicans were only Democrats for a Day or two in 2008, and the youth vote has been through at least 20 new shiny objects and counting since Obama. Now what?
LAMEDUCK
these “now whats” are questions for Donna Dearest of course. I am sure the answers will dawn on her two years later.
on the bright side, he’ll have plenty of time for basketball season
Call the makers of Being There to see if they ever discussed ideas for a sequel?
During the days right before the Inauguration reporters were talking about how they were working on their BB skills so they could play with O.
I sensed something creepy about him on that video, not just the boyish face and voice but something else. Then I noticed he doesn’t blink–at all. Weird.
Dakinikat,
You left out the coupe de grace of Markos’ remarks:
OMG!!!!!!
Has there ever been such a hypocrite?
Got your pain right here kossacks, come and git.
Lol No lesser pan can ever be compared to the psychic wounds of an arugala-deprived Whole Foods Nation scorned.
Next time that guy Obama wants to assassinate begs for his life, Biden should tell him to “stop whining.”
Lol Or, “Buck up! You can totally come back from this–in certain religions.”
yeah psychic wounds, WFN, wee weed up… say no more.
We should start a collection plate for all
their painthe Depends they’ll need to watch the returns in Nov.At Firedoglake, David Dayan asks: Has the White House lost their minds?
It’s exactly what the Obot hoards did during the entire primary and general election!!!
What in the world? Did these people take an extended nap that lasted for the whole of 2008? Maybe they were too busy running around like chickens with their heads cut off shrieking “Sarah Palin!!!!!!” to notice.
because it’s so insane to think that open berating would inspire a voter to action
And it’s not like it just started with Obots, either. It’s the time-tested way Dems handled Nader voters and probably goes back even longer than that.
Reading the comments sections at FDL is unbelieveable these days. These people have gone from mocking pumas to hysterical, hair-on-fire, anti-Obama crazies in no time at all. There is even a diary over there about violent revolution. Did you know Ted Rall wrote a book advocating it?
http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/73767
Sample FDL comment:
*snorts* Yeah, installing Mr. Harry and Louise was about all anyone could really do, there. Heck of a job.
Jeebus, they’re losing their $&@) over there. It’s like the progressive chapter of the 101st Fighting Keyboarders just discovered there’s no Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny doesn’t love them. Thank goodness they’ve come to the important realization that not the least little bit of this is their fault.
These people have gone from mocking pumas to hysterical, hair-on-fire, anti-Obama crazies in no time at all
They know only two positions…at one’s feet or at one’s throat…..they finally realized Barry is not that in to them…FISA they take , but not that…NEVER that .
It’s hilarious because they’re playing right into the WH’s WATB narrative. They weren’t bothered by anything until Obama announced they’ve never really been his number one, like it wasn’t painfully obvious. It must be swell to be so overprivileged all one’s problems are so petty.
I’m speechless. Really.
McClatchy:
*whistles* He keeps topping himself, doesn’t he? Hi-yahhhh.
It was good hanging last night with the ol’ bitter knitterz!
Tabloids have caught on Obama’s attacking his own
http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2010/09/29/tabloids-torturing-the-donkey/