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Net neutrality, Google, and Verizon

You’ve all heard by now that Google and Verizon will take care of it. They will come to an agreement between them that will ensure the best use of bandwidth for everyone.

And what we’re arguing about is whether their agreement preserves enough net neutrality.

Green horrified face. By Jeremy Brooks.

Net neutrality is a question of rights. Who determines the content of the public airwaves? Who determines the extent of your right to see or hear what you choose? Who determines what you can choose to see and hear?

Since when do businesses decide questions of rights? That is a function of government.

Does the government fit into such a tiny tub by now that we no longer have any idea what it’s for?

(Crossposted at Acid Test.)

22 Responses

  1. This is why I think government (or a government-owned utility) should own the internet infrastructure.

    • Even if they don’t own it, they should regulate it as a public utility. It should be a public service and trust.

      • Yup, but if they owned it could they also insert the KillSwitch with more authority? Wouldn’t Senator Joseph Lieberman just jump with excitement if he could legislate or even CHAIR the Kill Switch Committee???

        • Do you worry about the government throwing a kill switch on the Post Office?

          If it’s publicly regulated (BTW, honk, honk! re it should be a public utility comments!), then in a democracy there’s some accountability for decisions.

          (I know we don’t have a democracy now, but that’s a separate issue.)

          It’s better to have a kill switch in the hands of government than in the hands of self-serving and unaccountable private megacorporations.

          • Well, there’s the kill switch on mail delivery. They’re going to lose another day of the week.

            There is still only one governemnt. When this administration claims the “supremacy clause” for everything these days, it scares the crap out of me. There are usually at least a few competing private companies for everything and the only reason they can get so cozy with each other is because government isn’t doing their job.

          • China controls theirs…I frankly don’t think the government or the companies should have a KillSwitch.

    • Honk honk.

  2. Since when do businesses decide questions of rights? That is a function of government.

    Since they can pass it while saying we have a ‘CONSTITUTIONAL Professor as President’…so everyone falls dead asleep while our RIGHTS disappear.

  3. This is all rather amazing when you think about the fact that we the people own all the airwaves, we own the internet, we own it all. It was our tax dollars that build the infrastructure to begin with. It was our tax dollars that built the initial infrastructure. Now there are certainly some private dollars going into building infrastructure on top of what we built. But them’s the breaks. Tough. Eminent domain can be used for that because it’s for the bigger public good. It’s ours, it’s for us to communicate over. It’s for us to do commerce over. It’s like the highways.

    Imagine if all the roads were private. And each road had different requirements, taxes, fees, etc. so that some cars and trucks were favored and some where not. Not by weight or anything, but by brand. And imagine that difference was both for just visiting (non commercial) and for commerce. Imagine going to visit the folks and being stopped at a border (town, state, whatever) and told you can’t go through this week because you have the wrong brand car.

    That’s what we’re talking about if we don’t have net neutrality. And to really protect us, the government should either enact really strict laws maintaining it, or they should just take it all over as a public utility.

  4. Wikileaks…. ‘DrinkingWithBob (Notice how he doesn’t stop to breathe)

  5. Blago verdicts just coming out, BB:

    Hung jury on 23 counts.

    Guilty on only one: making false statements to the FBI (same as Martha Stewart).

    More to come.

    • Well, no one will probably agree with me but I’m glad. The people who called the king maker “blago” are the crooks to me, Jarrett, jessie jackson,Jr, etc. I personally find it funny.

    • I think it bothers me, that a person can be found innocent, but some how the contact the person has with the FBI null and voids their innocence verdict. Seems a bit odd, almost a bit like the old saying; You can’t fight City Hall or the Government.

      • From what I have read about the case, I don’t know if he lied to the FBI. That was years before the case was brought. It’s more complicated than what the government is charging.

    • I followed the trial. As far as I’m concerned the government showed that Blago is a little crazy. Lots of talk and no follow through. I’m with the jurors.

    • I just posted a new thread so every one can discuss it up there and we can stay OT here.

  6. what bothers me is scrubbing?

    who scrubs what and when and why?

    Larry was on that at NQ majorly hugely….

    I guess working for a paper and seeing how fab the library was?

    I dig all that reality.

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