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Paul Rosenberg: The latest access blogger to go racist

Paul wakes up but is it in time??

Paul wakes up but is it in time??

Just kidding, Paul.  We know you’re not a racist, even if you don’t think that Barack Obama derives his (so-called) formidable political skills from the unavoidable fact that he is the first black president evah!  For us, it was never a matter of race, which is why we held our candidates to a higher standard.  No one got a free pass at The Confluence because they could make more melanin.  Neither melanin production nor gender,  are qualities cross linked to political ability, as far as I know.  Integrity, experience and principles probably are.   I will admit to being choked up the night Obama won.  The joy evident in the crowd in Grant Park was something I waited my whole life to see.  But the sentiment was fleeting.  There were more pressing issues on my mind.

Of all of the front pagers at OpenLeft, you and Natasha were the ones I was pulling for, and now you have delivered and how.  I never thought I would see the day that a progressive blog would allow “Barack Obama” and “Political incompetent” to be in the same paragraph together.  That kind of $#@% only happens on the bad liberal blogs like yours truly, Correntewire and Alegre’s Corner.  Your “They Just Don’t Make Recoveries Like They Used To” post to me is like watching someone waking up to the fact that there’s a pillow over his face and that someone really *is* trying to kill him:

One could argue, “Well, he’s a very good politician, you just don’t like what his politics are.”  But a politician who undermines his party and his country cannot seriously be regarded as a competent politician.  Presiding over the ongoing destruction of America’s middle class with Bush-like cluelessness is not competence by any kind of remotely rational standard.  And if the previous chart didn’t quite get through to you, then consider the following one, which includes the 1980 “recovery” that lead directly into a “double dip” recession.  The following chart shows every recession since 1980 (see chart at OpenLeft):

In fact, he’s not even trying to be a competent politician.

In short, Obama’s indifference to the suffering of tens of millions of Americans may or may not result in Democrats’ loss of Congress in 2010 and/or his own loss of re-election in 2012.  Because Republican victories would be utterly catastrophic, I have to hope that these losses don’t come to pass.  But Obama’s governance so far has been disastrous for the middle class. Supporting disaster as opposed to catastrophe is not my idea of a good place to be politically.  And a politician who gives us that choice is not remotely a competent one.

And that’s not saying anything about his utter failure to even fight for a credible response to global warming, or his continued support for the Bush/Cheney “long war” approach to the “war on terror”, the very existence of which is a victory for al Qaeda.

This is incompetence on a breathtaking scale.  This is Nero fiddling while Rome burns.  And the fact that Obama is a superb fiddle player (first black fiddle player evuh!) does not even come close to making any sort of difference at all.

Welcome to the club, Paul!  Myiq will send you your “So you’ve decided to become a racist!?” complimentary white sheet and hormone replacement therapy starter pack.  That is, until you decide to diss us so you don’t become contaminated with “a certain class of woman” as Jane Hamsher would say or a closet Republican as Big Tent Democrat likes to refer to us.

{{sigh}}

It’s one of the burdens we carry for being prematurely right about Barack Obama.  And it really is a burden because the Obama branding committee was so successful at turning the rest of the party against us.  It’s just so hard to believe we saw through him early on we just HAD to have some screws loose, right?  We saw how some of you guys deep down really did know that Obama wasn’t all that but you didn’t want to say it for fear of losing face, or losing access or losing your friends or losing your ad revenue.  That’s OK, we understand.  It’s human nature.  Axelrod and company played that nature for all that it was worth.

The question I have for you now, Paul, is what are you going to do about it?  Are you going to stand out there alone, apart from Chris and tell it like it is?  Are you going to acknowledge that we are your natural allies?  Or are you going to be like BTD and Jane and a dozen other liberals who have turned your backs on us and embraced your cynicism so that you don’t have to be tainted by us, the new demographic independent liberals?

If you go your own way, the incompetents win.  They love it when you act like being seen with us is embarrassing.  With the left divided, no one will be able to hold them accountable for anything they do.  But if you acknowledge us, you take the first steps to reconstituting the left.

United we stand and all that treacly sentimental stuff.  Once upon a time, there was a reason why it was important.

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103 Responses

  1. I wondered why the blogstalkers were trashing Rosenberg. Don’t blame me for looking, I clicked on a link on the dashboard.

    • Yep, I hope he has a thick skin. He’s finally said what we’ve all been thinking.
      It ain’t going to be pretty. Expect the Obama operation to mob him.

      • Rosenberg was always suspicious of Obama. He has probably been wanting to say this stuff for a long time–either Bowers gave him his head or Rosenberg took the bit in his mouth and ran with it.

  2. Prepare to remain in our state of banishment.

    • I never give up hope, SOD. One of them is going to slap his head one day and say, “Doh! I’ve been working with the wrong people.”
      It’ll happen. We might be asphyxiated by then but I won’t give up hope yet.

      • The great thing for me is that I pretty much landed here at TC and have close to zero clue who all these people are.

  3. Why has taken some so long to figure this out? It was so painfully obvious. The hype and corruption surrounding this man was in plain view.
    I saw it and I am not at all some kind of ultra-savvy political type. Not at all.

    double {{sigh}}

    • It’s the emperor’s new clothes syndrome. They all fooled each other into thinking Obama was wearing clothes. I mean, thinking Obama was a liberal.

    • I dunno. I’d call it the triumph of hope over experience but these guys really should have known better. They saw what the Republicans did to their own voters but were completely unprepared when the Democrats did it to them.
      Flattery is very persuasive. The Obama operation made sure to make them feel like they were the smartest, sexiest, coolest people on earth for supporting Obama. And they created the illusion that Obama was winning, that The Math was insurmountable, that Hillary was a LOOOOOSER. No one likes to be associated with a loser.
      And then they associated us with every nasty thing under the sun. We were older women, working class, uneducated, menopausal. It didn’t matter that many of us weren’t any of those things. And so what if some of us were? Should we have just gone away? Pretended we didn’t see the truth? Given our votes away? They expected us to have no self-esteem, like we shouldn’t be seen in public.
      I hate the people who did this to our party and to that certain class of women. We and they deserved respect not belittlement. I intend to make the bastards pay for that. My vote will not go to any Democrat until they get rid of the infection in the party. They are despicable.
      Paul hasn’t gotten to that stage yet because he may still think he is in the privileged class. He’s wrong of course. Give it a little more time though. If he doesn’t crumble under the pressure of suddenly being the least popular person in the blogosphere, we might hear more PUMAesque stuff from him yet.

      • Thank you. The lack of respect is what burns me. They sling this bs about “grassroots,” and then it’s “ewww, menopausal!” It’s a damn election, not a wet t-shirt contest. Those women are citizens and voters, reliable voters in fact. Trying to make people feel bad about themselves for existing and expecting them to slink away in shame because they don’t fit the target demo for Eclipse doesn’t fit any definition of grassroots politics I’m aware of.

      • Yes, so the mixture of the populace’s intense desire for change from the Bush years created a vulnerability to some very expert brand marketing. The Obama/Change sales pitch was blended with good ol’ political propaganda and big money/special interest pressures on those in positions of power.

        That these tactics succeeded indicates a frightening lack of critical thinking by the American public and/or a widespread “la-la land, wish upon a star” mentality and/or extreme corruption. If it’s all three …

        oh you bet I’m not voting for any D who had a hand in this destruction.

        • Seems like all three, and the mass media took advantage of all of them.

  4. Excellent post RD!

    I dunno. I think Obama’s quite competent… for a Republican.

  5. I was just listening to Modern Scholar on the history of the Anglo-Saxons and Drout just mentioned Kipling’s poem about Danegeld. For those of you who don’t know the story, Aethelraed the Unready (it’s a saxon inside joke) was king of the English in 991 or so. The Danes were breathing down his neck so he decided to pay them off to go away. His ancestor, Alfred the Great had done this once to buy time. Alfred used his window of opportunity to create a new army, defense system and navy so that he could crush the next viking invasion. Aethelraed? Ehhhh, not so much. Before you know it, the Danes were back and wanted more. So, Aethelraed paid them more. The Danes came back 3 or 4 more times. Then Aetelraed had the neat idea of ethnic cleansing. That didn’t go over too well. So, it was back to capitulation.
    Long story short- the Danes and the Norwegians took him to the cleaners and invaded England, put some dude named Knut on the throne and set off a power struggle that ended in 1066 with William the Conqueror seizing the day.
    And it made me think about all that Obama has conceded to the Republicans. They will never be satisfied and he will never be rid of them. He can’t kill them off. So he’s screwed.
    Unready indeed.
    Here’s the poem:
    IT IS always a temptation to an armed and agile nation,
    To call upon a neighbour and to say:
    “We invaded you last night – we are quite prepared to fight,
    Unless you pay us cash to go away.”

    And that is called asking for Dane-geld,
    And the people who ask it explain
    That you’ve only to pay ’em the Dane-geld
    And then you’ll get rid of the Dane!

    It is always a temptation to a rich and lazy nation,
    To puff and look important and to say:
    “Though we know we should defeat you, we have not the time to meet you.
    We will therefore pay you cash to go away.”

    And that is called paying the Dane-geld;
    But we’ve proved it again and again,
    That if once you have paid him the Dane-geld
    You never get rid of the Dane.

    It is wrong to put temptation in the path of any nation,
    For fear they should succumb and go astray,
    So when you are requested to pay up or be molested,
    You will find it better policy to say:

    “We never pay any one Dane-geld,
    No matter how trifling the cost,
    For the end of that game is oppression and shame,
    And the nation that plays it is lost!”

  6. Excellent post!

    While I am glad Mr. Rosenberg may finally be waking up. I give him extra credit for noticing that what the administration just got passed was “the REPUBLICAN alternative to HillaryCare from 15 years ago.” But did he really have to say this: “And if the previous chart didn’t quite get through to you, then consider the following one, which includes the 1980 “recovery” that lead directly into a “double dip” recession.”

    It should be “led” for past tense, not “lead.” Do they not teach irregular verbs anymore? Yes, it sounds like the metal “lead” but it is not spelled that way. (It is a pet peeve of mine.)

    djmm

  7. So how long do you think it will be before they meet his price he retracts.

  8. Not familiar with this particular access blogger. Hopefully, not a Kucinich moment. I’ve seen lots of epiphanies in B0botland and lots of rallying back – because you don’t want the terroris.. er Palin to win, do you?
    So, I am cynical.

  9. Awesome. Like the left hook RD. The fauxgressives will become full fledged Republicans alongside BO in no time. Will be easier to keep track of them. They should just rename themselves the Establishment Party.

  10. Hi, guys, I’m typing on an iPad at the apple store. Virtual keyboard is a pain but it’s fast and sleek.

    • Wow. all of your type is upside down. How’d you do that?

    • But I am going to start saving pennies and see how much I can put together by the end of April to get the one I want. (Of course, I’d be delighted if one of our readers would buy it for me.)

      It’s going to be a slow news weekend because of the Easter holiday, so the iPad is as good a topic to write about as any.

      Update: Thank you to the very generous, long time TalkLeft reader and commenter who ordered one for me. What a great surprise to wake up to.

      You need to do a Jeralyn and beg your readers to pony up for a brand new iPad for you…it worked, too. Hard to believe!!

      http://www.talkleft.com/story/2010/4/3/5018/21737

      • OMG. That woman is nothing but a wh***. I’m not going to write it, but I’m thinking it.

        • I couldn’t believe it when I read it too. A blogger has every right to put up paypal and Amazon wishlist on their site and ask readers for donations once in a while. But to actually come out and seriously ask readers in a post to spend $500+ for something so materialistic is crass. It’s not like she’s unemployed and struggling to survive (like Arthur Silber).

          • I thought the bare minimum version was about $700?

          • Gosh, Arthur Silber has been sick forever. Poor guy is always at death’s door. What the heck is wrong with him anyways? Does anyone know?

          • I honestly have no idea what they cost. I thought the cheapest was around $500 but I could be completely wrong. All I know is that I won’t be able to afford one anytime soon.

          • I have no idea what has happened to Silber. If I lived in the LA area I’d check up on him but it seems like he’s all alone and very sick because he doesn’t have the money to obtain proper treatment. Maybe instead of asking for an IPad next time Jeralyn asks her readers to donate that money to Arthur’s medical treatment.

      • I hinted about one months ago. But If someone were to gift one to me, I’d be really surprised. Delighted, but surprised. It’s a perfect size for blogging.
        Jeralyn can be wrong about everything and an Obama toesucker to boot and they’re throwing ipads at her. Sometimes life is vastly unfair.

      • Okay, now I know why some people don’t get banned from that place no matter what crap they pull.

      • Roman Polanski is very generous.

        • LOL. You know what? I wouldn’t be surprised that a lot of the “big donors” at TalkLeft are the access bloggers she befriends from HuffPo and other Obama apologist sites. These are the only people left who seem to agree with her these days.

          • Really? I was thinking they were the other “expert” lawyers who used to appear on Geraldo, etc., with her and consider themselves in an elite group. Not sure why these men have chosen such feminine handles to comment under, but they argue like bad attorneys….and they have been commenting there since well before the primaries started. They bully as though you are just supposed to collapse under the weight of their greatness.

    • No kidding. There was a thorough post at FDL about this. We had net 600,000 new people looking for jobs in the first quarter, and we had at best 100,000 net permanent new jobs created in the same period. Don’t see how you can celebrate that differential. Most of those new job seekers were entering the market for the first time. We may not be losing jobs at the pace we were and that’s a good thing. We may even be adding some new jobs, but still 25 million unemployed or underemployed, 15 million more than three years ago.

  11. Speaking of political incompetents, it’s a good thing Obama is out there ‘selling’ his POS health bill:

    Obama’s 17-minute, 2,500-word response to woman’s claim of being ‘over-taxed’

    Toward the end of a question-and-answer session with workers at an advanced battery technology manufacturer, a woman named Doris stood to ask the president whether it was a “wise decision to add more taxes to us with the health care” package.

    “We are over-taxed as it is,” Doris said bluntly.

    Obama started out feisty. “Well, let’s talk about that, because this is an area where there’s been just a whole lot of misinformation, and I’m going to have to work hard over the next several months to clean up a lot of the misapprehensions that people have,” the president said.

    He then spent the next 17 minutes and 12 seconds lulling the crowd into a daze. His discursive answer – more than 2,500 words long — wandered from topic to topic, including commentary on the deficit, pay-as-you-go rules passed by Congress, Congressional Budget Office reports on Medicare waste, COBRA coverage, the Recovery Act and Federal Medical Assistance Percentages (he referred to this last item by its inside-the-Beltway name, “F-Map”). He talked about the notion of eliminating foreign aid (not worth it, he said). He invoked Warren Buffett, earmarks and the payroll tax that funds Medicare (referring to it, in fluent Washington lingo, as “FICA”).

    http://voices.washingtonpost.com/44/2010/04/obamas-17-minute-2500-word-res.html

    • LOL! I guess the teleprompter didn’t have the answer so he just went into one of those stream of consciousness things.

      • LOL!! That, and he knew he needed to “run out the clock” to limit just how many of these good questions he would be faced with.

    • Great. Sounds like he’d make a good teaching assisant.

      • Only if he was Chinese.

        • He may as well be speaking Mandarin as much real information as he imparts in those answers.

          • He uses prepositional phrases to tie himself into a celtic knot. When you hear a presentation like that, you know it’s all bullshit.

    • I just did my taxes and I paid a whopping amount. I got a return but when I think about how much I paid, not even counting my local property taxes, I felt sick. What’s left is not giving me the lifestyle I thought I would have at my age. My kid is going to have to get scholarship or student loans while I pay enough in taxes to cover a small family and yet neither my kid or the family is making out in this deal.
      It all goes to our neofeudal overlords. I believe revolutions got started this way.

      • I’m around the poverty line, and they still take 30% of it. It’s a good thing I don’t have to pay rent on this ramshackle old house I live in.

      • Let’s see, we pay through the nose and get very little in the way of services back for it. Yep, sounds like how revolutions get started all right,

        I owe money to the IRS this year, like usual, so I’m not filing until the bitter end.

        • I’m going to have to pay the state because I can’t afford health insurance. I just can’t wait to have to pay the Feds too.

          • You should go post over at TalkLeft. Maybe one of the Jeralyn’s generous doners would help you….

          • Nah, they all think we have single payer now. They’ll tell her Obama’s fixed everything and all she has to do is take an ID to any doctor she wants, for guaranteed free, comprehensive care.

          • BB, sorry to hear that but it’s gonna be all our fate sooner or later.

          • Sorry to hear that, BB.

      • Me too. I was ripsh*t two days ago when I got my return. I am definitely not someone who should be in high tax bracket, but since I sold a house–in the worst market in history, and took a huge loss–it was considered a “gain.” So nice to know I am paying for Goldman’s bonuses, and David Axelrod’s next b.s. campaign.

  12. Thanks for the link! But I don’t think that Obama’s incompetent at all; that would assume that his actions have something to do with public policy or the public interest. In fact, Obama is doing an excellent job servicing his owners: The banksters. Same big banks, except bigger? Check. No effective regulation or financial reform? Check. Same privatized losses and socialized risks? Check.

    “You don’t bat zero for the season without a plan.”

    • “You don’t bat zero for the season without a plan.”

      Completely nails it!

    • Obama is incompetent when it comes to compromise. All of the big Dems in some way or another work for monied interest. It’s just that I can’t imagine Hillary or Gore or Clark completely throwing all prog values away and selling the environment and women down the river. Obama has shown that he has no values or morals whatsoever, moreso than the usual Democrat.

    • Never attribute to malice what can easily be explained by stupidity.
      He’s a ruthless, unscrupulous, cheating campaigner but he doesn’t have a clue how to govern. Even if he wanted to do the right thing, I dint believe he can. He hasn’t spent enough time doing it and he doesn’t have the family connections and generations of political aristocracy to do it for him. It doesn’t matter how smart you are. Learning this shit takes time. The worst thing he ever did is agree to run in the first place when he wasn’t ready. Everything follows from that one flawed decision. The banksters backed him for this very reason. He’s weak and vulnerable. Being good is beyond his capabilities because he wouldn’t know where to start.
      I blame the party for letting this happen. It is ultimately responsible for everything he fucks up.

      • I agree with Lambert, but maybe it is also incompentence.

        It seems to me that obama thrives on being “popular” and from where he sits now, being “popular” means trying to please lobbiests and republicans.

        • Sorry, lobbyest…

        • Sure, he may be stupid and inexperienced but even a blind sow will find an acorn every now and again. Never happen with Obama.

          • LOL. I assume your “acorn” pun was intended. It appears they’ve been driven out of business by the tea partiers. I’ll bet they thought they’d be in the driver’s seat with Obama in the WH.

          • Wish I’d been smart enough to think of that pun. 😉

        • Maybe we’ll all find out someday. I wouldn’t be suprised to find that the finance industry hedged their bets and backed Obama to cover their asses. It’s the kind of thing they do. Obama had to be aware of that. But he’s smart enough to know also that there aren’t enough bankers to elect him. Voters do that. I think he’s in more trouble than he knows and if he reaches put to evangelicals to make up for his party losses, he’s going to lose more of his base.
          The party needs to be purged.

          • “I wouldn’t be suprised to find that the finance industry hedged their bets and backed Obama to cover their asses.” Oh, no question: That was his early big money.

            Keep in mind the words of Paul Douglas in 1932 (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204313604574330680712307704.html):

            “Back in 1932, the future Illinois Sen. Paul Douglas advised progressives not to expect too much from the Democratic Party. It was, he wrote, ‘maintained by the business interests’ as a kind of ‘lifeboat.’ Whenever the GOP ship sprung a leak—whenever Republicans were no longer willing or able to do business’s bidding—the interests simply piled into the other party and made their escape.”

          • How true. Thanks for this quote.

          • I remember how angry I was at Nader in 2000 for his “they’re all the same” mantra. Nader is still an idiot, financed by the GOP at the time. He even wrote in WSJ a piece that just Nixon could go to China, maybe W will turn out to be the true reformer of it all.
            But, as it turns out – he was right on the two parties. There’s a reason Clinton was stabbed in the back and now I get it.

      • Never attribute to malice what can easily be explained by stupidity

        A few years back I used to wish that someone would discover that George Bush was really a Lex Luthor type evil genius and was only pretending to be dumber than a bag of hammers.

        • SNL had a memorable skit on super-smart Reagan. Someone said once that in the end it won’t matter if W was a babbling idiot or an evil genius. The effects on others would be the same.
          And I agree, Whether a puppet or an active participant, TPTB are the same, their agenda the same, whatever the party or the skin color of their front men.

  13. happy easter everyone

  14. Parochially Post-American

    It wasn’t the “reset” button President Obama hit; it was the ejector-seat button.

    In that sense, those who argue that, having been born in Hawaii and been at grade school in Indonesia, he lacks the instinctive Atlanticism of his predecessors are missing the point. Yes, he has no instinctive Atlanticism. But that’s not because of a childhood spent in the Pacific but because of an adulthood spent among the campus Left from Bill Ayers to Van Jones, not to mention Jeremiah Wright. That also conveniently explains not just the anti-Atlanticism but the anti-Zionism, at least until the scholars uncover some sinister Jewish banker in Nairobi who seized the family home after the braying Brit-imperialist toff tossed Grampa Obama behind bars. Perhaps a singing Mountie yodeling selections from Rose-Marie beneath his jailhouse window all night explains the president’s revulsion to Canadian Arctic policy. Perhaps the Gujarati fakir sharing his cell and keeping Grampa up all night with his snake charming accounts for Obama’s 18-month cold shoulder to India. And you can hardly blame him postponing his trip to Australia given the lingering resentments after Grampa was bitten by a rabid wombat down by the billabong who then ran off with his didgeridoo.

    OT and I seldom agree with Mark Steyn but always find him wickedly funny.

  15. OT, but West Va is struggling against Duke and their rat-faced coach. I hope Butler doesn’t have to play Duke. Oh well….

  16. From Betty at Third Estate Sunday Review:

    “2008 was all about White ‘liberals’ telling us that race mattered and gender didn’t. They did that and they shamed a lot of White women who wouldn’t stand up for themselves. But as a Black woman, I knew Whitey wasn’t trying to do me any favors. I’ve seen it over and over and I damn well knew that Barack Obama got to where Barita wouldn’t have. A Black woman would not have been cheered on and we’ve seen [that] over and over in this country. We saw it when Anita Hill was subjected to attacks and Clarence Thomas was given a pass. We saw it in 2008 when Cynthia McKinney, a Black woman, was ignored while White ‘liberals’ got on board with bi-racial Barack and called him ‘Black.'”

    http://thirdestatesundayreview.blogspot.com/2009/06/roundtable.html

    • Cynthia McKinney was worse than ignored, she was crucified by the progs. Close to Hill/Palin levels, even though she was only in Congress and had zero chance of becoming Prez. And during the Presidential campaign, when some feminists who hated the sexism of Obama’s supporters were flirting with voting for her, she got jumped all over a second time and the feminists ran away from her, too, lumped her in with eeeeevvvillll Sarah, and jumped on the Obama train.

      • I love that woman. I’ll never forget how she was dissed by the Capital police and driven out of Congress.

        • She didn’t even keep busy in Congress trying to prevent Guam from tipping over. 🙂

          Of all things, she got dissed because of her hairstyle on top of everything.

  17. Even the uber-tool Betty Cracker is trying to walk back her support, conceding “well, maybe” to the claim that health care reform was a givaway to insurance companies and big pharma.

    (Because she’s not sure where it’s cool to stand, she qualifies the admission with an “interesting fact” that consists of a long quote from a villager’s opinion piece.)

    How sad for her.

    • Betty Cracker should be sued for defamation for the things she’s written about specific women in the Puma movement.

    • She deserves to be sad for a very very long time–if she is, in fact, a she.

  18. Testing, testing. Will this get stopped by spammy, too?

  19. What do you want to see? A blog conference and they all say “oh, we were wrong but everyone at TC was right, we’re soooo sorry and want to make it up to you in any way we can and we’ll start by being best friends”? The blogs who’s validation you want are not all that influential, and neither is this blog. Its in-fighting. This blog has called other bloggers all sorts of names and keep saying “I told you so” in pretty nasty ways and then you are outraged that they are not sucking up to you? This kind of post makes it even more sure those who you want to ally with will not want any alliance with you. Think about it – put yourself in their shoes. What would you do if you were one of the bloggers you so disdain?

    • Well if I were one of those bloggers, the first thing I’d want to do is wake the f–k up. Then we could see.

    • What would you do if you were driven out of a blog that had been your on-line home for nearly 5 years? Say “thank you?” I certainly don’t want any apologies from the astroturfers at dkos and I’d never trust a single of of them to be my friend. What a stupid question.

      This blog is just a place where some like-minded people can talk to each other. If you don’t like it, go away and don’t come back.

      • “What would you do if you were driven out of a blog that had been your on-line home for nearly 5 years?” Do you mean would I hold a grudge forever? Or would I stay seriously pissed off for …how many years?

        This post says “But if you acknowledge us, you take the first steps to reconstituting the left.”

        So do you want to be a small group of like minded people or do you want to be acknowledged?

  20. Oops, maybe you should strike that.

    Uber-tool’s fluffer claims that her contortions don’t amount to a “walk balk”.

    How it must suck to have been played and used so publically.

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