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Lazy Saturday Morning News and Views: We’re Screwed Edition

Good Morning, Conflucians!

It’s nice and sunny here in central Indiana this morning. I hope you have some sun where you are too. We’ll need something cheering today to get through the Congressional kabuki theater that is going to be put on to convince the American people to enjoy being royally screwed by the health insurance industry–and all at taxpayer expense.

From the LA Times: Healthcare debate begins today in House Rules Committee

Most legislation that comes to the House floor requires a rule, passed by the Rules Committee, which establishes the technical terms of any debate, such as the time allowed and the number of amendments.

Because the House and Senate passed substantially different versions of healthcare legislation, the fight to reconcile the measures is especially complicated.

It also is politically sensitive because House members do not want to vote for the unpopular Senate bill.

To spare rank-and-file Democrats from having to do that, the Rules Committee on Saturday is expected to pass a rule that incorporates the Senate bill.

This process — commonly used in prior Congresses — would “deem” the Senate bill passed.

See how that works? House members don’t want to “vote” for the Senate version of the bill, they just want to foist it on us without having to take responsibility for royally screwing us and our children and grandchildren.

Bart Stupak, the hero of misogynists everywhere, is getting all the attention he ever could have dreamed of–he’s the center of the battle over abortion language in the ripoff that is being referred to as “health care reform.” At FDL, David Dayen explains the obscure method that will be used to screw women out of meaningful health care–an “enrollment corrections” bill.” I can’t get Dayen’s links to the four-page bill to work, but he summarizes it as follows:

On page 2, you can see clearly that it says “Nothing in this Act shall be construed to require any health plan to provide coverage of abortion services or to allow the secretary or any other person or entity implementing this Act (or amendment) to require coverage of such services,” and then later, “None of the funds appropriated by this Act… shall be expended for any abortion or to cover any part of the costs of any health plan that includes coverage of abortion, except in the case where a woman suffers from a physical disorder, physical injury or physical illness that would, as certified by a physician, place the woman in danger of death unless an abortion is performed…. or unless the pregnancy is the result of rape or incest.”

This is the Stupak amendment, right down to the language on Page 3 about a separate abortion rider (which is not currently offered in any state where private coverage is banned). And it’s added as a “concurring resolution” to this bill.

Voila! Health care for men only. As Dayen says, somehow when the roolz are inconvenient, they somehow get bypassed–kind of like what happened in the DNC roolz committee on May 31, 2008.

David Waldman has more here, and this is The Daily Caller this morning.

Now that the damage is done, Michael Moore is upset with his Congressman: My Congressman, Bart Stupak, Has Neither a Uterus nor a Brain

And of course Stupak is getting pressure from the pro-death for women side of the debate too, like this screed: Bart Stupak’s Moment of Truth.

I’m sorry this post is so brief, but I overslept and now I have to write my lectures for next week and help my mom with some things. Please post links to what you’re reading in the comments.


116 Responses

  1. Good morning everyone!

  2. Yeah Michael Moore…

    • Michael Moore AKA Chicken Little

    • MM is a joke, he’s writing Stupak lecturing him on not having a uterus or a brain–well MM has no uterus, no heart, and no integrity, though he has a clever opportunistic brain for sure. I heard him on the Diane Rehm show on Wednesday saying Obama compromises everything away because he’s a “decent guy” and “of generous spirit.” I can guarantee you if Hillary was screwing up healthcare the way Obama has, Moore wouldn’t be saying it’s because she’s too nice.

      • I remember MM calling Hillary a racist after a debate and that was when I knew MM was an idiot and an Obama shill. It took him nearly two years later to figure out what some of us knew back in late 2007.

        • Michael Moore and his friend Bill Maher serve no purpose but to enrich the cult of Obama.

  3. Good morning BB!!! I think the brief news says all it has to say on this sad, sad pile of crap. Thanks for digging where no one should have to dig. 🙂

  4. This Bill is treating Women as Second Class Citizens, while the menz are off being given coupons for their Viagra. This Bill also, doesn’t have Medicare Buy In for those 50 + folks, the ones at higher risk for losing their insurance and the ones at higher risk for dying without insurance.

    The cartoon is a good way to point out some of the flaws.

    Welcome back BB.

    • I doubt the Roberts court will have any problems with women having second class rights. Hey, they’ve got a choice: pay for riders for their childbearing years in case of unwanted pregnancy, grin and bear it, or Just Say No.

      Oh, what about rape? Failed contraceptives? Hey, babes, we warned ya: Just Say No or pay or bear it.

      Or have enough money to fly to, oh Britain, and get your abortion. But either way, sweeties, you are gonna PAY.

  5. I am off to class…but will check in on the iPhone on breaks to see how it is going. Also, keep us up to date as to any new info FDL gets. Thanks BB & SOD.

  6. If this bill passes, as it looks like it will, can we have a day of mourning for the USA? It is the death of the nation founded For the People, by the People, and of the People.
    Welcome to The Corporate States of America.

    • We can even reuse all those CSA logos from 130 years ago.

    • Anyone here who is still registered as a Democrat should register as an Independent.

      I’ve been suggesting a National Month of De-Registeration from the Dem Party for months now. It would send a message, loud and clear.

      Deregister, then write to the DNC — maybe include a clothespin to symbolize you will no longer hold your nose and vote for the lesser of two evils.

      Or use paper with a clothes hanger pictured on it…and state why you are leaving the party.

      Would any of this help? Not sure. We don’t have a viable third party….

      Could we take over the Democratic Party? So far, hasn’t been working, espicially with this kind of nominal Dem prez.

      • that’s a good idea!

      • I switched to Independent when I got my new drivers license. I’m glad I did.

        • I’m a Green – Independent is fine, but the media characterizes independents as moderate/right wing, and I think the more people register in a party that’s actually leftist, we might get more recognition.

  7. Now has sent out an action center memo

    Action Needed:

    Credible rumors have it that the Democratic leadership in the House and Senate are cutting a deal with Rep. Bart Stupak to insert the Stupak-Pitts Amendment into the health care bill at the last minute.


    We must pull out all the stops to prevent this deal from becoming a reality. Here’s what you need to do:

    1. Call and email Nancy Pelosi’s office. (Yes, do both — her number is 202-225-4965) Tell her the National Organization for Women’s chapters, leaders and activists will move heaven and earth to mount a primary challenge to each and every legislator who got elected claiming to be pro-choice and then turned around and voted for a health care bill under the cloud of a deal with Bart Stupak.

    2. Call Steny Hoyer’s office and tell him the same thing — his number is 202-225-3130. But also tell Rep. Hoyer that we are appalled by his cavalier assurance to pro-choice legislators that the women’s groups won’t mind if the Stupak-Pitts amendment is enacted at the last minute. Tell him that, to the contrary, women’s groups mind so much that we will focus on mounting a primary challenge to his re-election in 2010, and failing that, until we get the job done.

    3. Call President Barack Obama (either at 202-456-1111, the comments line, or the switchboard at 202-456-1414) and demand that he veto any health care bill passed under the cloud of a deal with Bart Stupak. Remind the president that hopeful, progressive women’s votes got him elected, and that we expect him to stand up for the women of this country — not to look the other way while Congress makes back room deals that could drive women to back alleys!

    If the Stupak-Pitts Amendment becomes law, it will deal the worst blow to reproductive health rights in decades. Don’t let this happen. Show our leaders how critical this issue is to so many.

    What Could Happen if Stupak-Pitts Becomes Law?

    Low- and moderate-income women could be completely prevented from accessing abortion. Who has money to purchase a so-called additional “abortion rider”? Who would even plan to need an “abortion rider”?

    Middle-income women could be severely restricted in accessing abortion — even if they are using some or all of their own money to pay for private insurance.

    Private insurance companies that currently cover abortion could be discouraged from doing so entirely — because they will have to modify their plans to participate in proposed health exchanges.

    We could face new exclusionary battles over birth control and other forms of reproductive health care coverage in the future. Remember, the supporters of Stupak-Pitts oppose contraception as well as abortion rights.

    Find more information at http://www.now.org and check back frequently for updates. Thank you for taking action!

    • This was all a given if Obama (that’s Barack — I want to further limit women’s right to an abortion and whether it’s a full person is above my pay grade — Obama) became president. But at least they’re waking up now.

  8. http://www.alternet.org/reproductivejustice/146076/two_women_a_day_die_giving_birth_in_america_–_and_many_of_these_deaths_can_be_prevented
    I don’t think two men are dying a day because they can’t get Viagra. Yes, I know these two are unrelated but my point is this should be about general health for women and these laws are being written by mostly men. This article is scary when you think about the lack of over all standards in our country. We have health care for the elite and some non-existent, begging care for everyone else.

  9. One thing I don’t understand about the Stupak amendment is the silence of the women in the Democratic Caucus. If I’m not mistaken, ALL OF THEM are pro-choice.

    Why aren’t we hearing from them?

    • It is theatre designed for the women in the Democratic caucus to cave on–it’s not for activists to get involved and actually stop.

    • Because they want to save Obama. Boxer has lost my vote forever. She is in a very tight race for her senate seat.

  10. Well, this is interesting Did Stupak Blink?

  11. The Stupak amendment is dead. I hope the bill is next in line.

    • is it really dead? From the Newsweek link in katiebird’s post:

      This still, however, leaves us exactly where we were 15 hours ago: where does Pelosi get her final votes? If Stupak can’t have his language, then the jury is still out on where Pelosi will round up her last few Representatives. I also would not necessarily rule out the possibility of Stupak’s language making a comeback–as Binder says, without being inside Pelosi’s office, it’s really hard to predict what happens next. And if we’ve learned anything from the debate about abortion in health care this far, it’s that accurate predictions are incredibly difficult to come by.

      • When I commented on this last night and brought up that I thought it would require unanimous consent in the Senate, I didn’t think this would fly. Hard to count on it being dead though since they could put it in the reconciliation bill and maybe shove that through. Wouldn’t be right but then roolz aren’t roolz here.

    • Dead like John Locke I’ll bet {{ sorry for the LOST reference }}

  12. This is an interesting take on student loans. My son went to the University of Michigan and this article is so true for him. He recently bought a foreclosed condo with the hope to someday recoup money from it to pay off his student loans. These loans are a nightmare for our kids. http://blogs.alternet.org/speakeasy/2010/03/19/stop-student-loan-sharking-make-college-free/

    • So it is being touted the savings will allow more pell grants for low income students. Meanwhile the middle class families get taxed more and students/families climb more in debt to pay for their degrees. And, I’m sorry but having worked in the field, I have witnessed tons of students going to college on Pell Grants that have no business being admitted to college. I would like to see stats on the number of Pell Grant recipients that drop out after failing to pass remedial courses. I have sat in high school ARD meetings where parents are told it is o.k. that Johnny reads at 5th grade level, he can still go to college because he can take remedial classes. What the f**** are the public schools suppose to be doing. Sorry, but IMO a ton of money is wasted thru Pell Grants.

  13. What I don’t understand about this current bill is how the government can force people to “buy” insurance. With automobile insurance it is different. Not everyone owns a car and getting a license is a privilege not a “right”. You have to pass a test to even get licensed and you can lose it for various reasons like speeding, accidents, vision, drinking, etc. It is easier to see how auto insurance became mandatory. How do you make someone buy insurance from a private company that is probably over charging in the first place? Someone with a legal background needs to answer this question because I know I’m not the only wondering about it. I saw that little formula someone posted yesterday with the 10% and help from the government but it didn’t make any sense. Most premiums cost much more than the figure I saw. What also are these exchanges about? It is feeling a lot like settling for that “guy” just because you want to be married. Then after you get married you realize that “he’s not really that in to YOU!”

  14. Even though I think President Platitude and the Coathanger Congress will do whatever they want, here’s one activist I respect speaking out rather poignantly–

    March 19, 2010

    An open letter to every woman in Congress:

    Today, women in the United States are fighting for their lives. You must fight too! A woman’s right to have safe and legal abortion is about to be traded away.

    We are asking all of you fight like you have never fought before. Tonight, It has become clear that the our Democratic President Obama, Democratic Speaker of the House (Nancy Pelosi) and Democratic Leader (Harry Reid) are trading away women’s lives.

    Every woman in Congress should MAKE HISTORY AND WALK OUT ! This is your chance to stand up for what is right! Forget politics, forget saving your seat! You must take a chance!

    If you sit back and allow the passage of the health care bill with “Stupak,” women in America will not vote for another Democrat…..myself included. Because there will essentially be no difference between the Democrats and the Republicans.

    What will it be? Will you all go down in history following the boys, or will you finally stand up for what is right? It’s up to all of you. We elected you because we believed that having women at the table would make a difference. Don’t let us down.

    Marcia A. Pappas

    • Nice and succinct. Says it all.

      Hey, that sounds like what we said to every Democratic woman and every Democrat for human rights during the primaries. Including to NOW and others. They didn’t listen then. They made it very clear during the primaries that people for women’s rights were not to be taken seriously. Ever.

      But if people wake up now, I’ll be happy. Not holding breath though.

      • Marcia Pappas did speak up during the primaries, though. She was one of the good ones. It was Kim Gandy who was a mess.

        • Marcia on the Kennedy endorsement:

          Senator Kennedy Betrays Women by Not Standing
          For Hillary Clinton for President
          January 28, 2008

          Women have just experienced the ultimate betrayal. Senator Kennedy’s endorsement of Hillary Clinton’s opponent in the Democratic presidential primary campaign has really hit women hard. Women have forgiven Kennedy, stuck up for him, stood by him, hushed the fact that he was late in his support of Title IX, the ERA, and the Family and Medical Leave Act to name a few. Women have buried their anger that his support for the compromises in No Child Left Behind and the Medicare bogus drug benefit brought us the passage of these flawed bills. We have thanked him for his ardent support of many civil rights bills, BUT women are always waiting in the wings.

          And now the greatest betrayal! We are repaid with his abandonment! He’s picked the new guy over us. He’s joined the list of progressive white men who can’t or won’t handle the prospect of a woman president who is Hillary Clinton (they will of course say they support a woman president, just not “this” one). “They” are Howard Dean and Jim Dean (Yup! That’s Howard’s brother) who run DFA (that’s the group and list from the Dean campaign that we women helped start and grow). “They” are Alternet, Progressive Democrats of America, democrats.com, Kucinich lovers and all the other groups that take women’s money, say they’ll do feminist and women’s rights issues one of these days, and conveniently forget to mention women and children when they talk about poverty or human needs or America’s future.

          This latest move by Kennedy, is so telling about the status of and respect for women’s rights, women’s voices, women’s equality, women’s authority and our ability – indeed, our obligation- to promote and earn and deserve and elect, unabashedly, a President that is the first woman after centuries of men who “know what’s best for us.

          • Nice. I’m glad to have such company under the bus with us then.

          • Thank you Wonk the Vote for posting this. I say, well said. I am still not over “it.”

          • sheridee, one more for you… from August 28, 2008. Excerpt:

            So I know what you wanted to hear, Senator. You wanted to hear people in loud unison declare: “No, we were not just in it for you, Hillary; we were in it for the invisible.”But for me, the only answer can be: “Yes, Senator, I was in it for YOU, precisely because YOU were in it for those people who feel invisible, and because YOU were the candidate who saw clearly that over fifty percent of the population was being ignored.”

            Who are those people? Why they are the poor, the hungry, the underinsured, i.e. women and their children. YOU are the person who addressed the issues of that fifty-plus percent. YOU are the person who worked her entire life for that fifty-plus percent. YOU are the person who, in the face of rife opposition and ridicule, stood firm in favor of health care for the invisible. YOU are the person with a proven record on Emergency Contraception for all women, because YOU understand that without reproductive freedom, women are held hostage to unwanted pregnancies. And it is YOU who has proven, over and over, that you can deliver for the invisible.

          • It appears Vicki Kennedy still believes the Obama HCR (High Corporate Returns) health insurance reform bill is something Ted Kenndy would have supported. Maybe he would have…oh dear.

            But she was whipping Stephen Lynch and he, regretfully and respectully, to lold her No.

          • The Kennedy men never showed one ounce of respect for women. “Mad Men” shows the truth behind the mystical Camelot.

        • What’s Kim Gandy saying now???

          I just did a Google search on Gandy + abortion rgihts + Obama health bill — and nothing came up.

          But my search terms might not be good enough — has she been saying anything on this?

          Terry O’Neill, new prez of NOW(?) called for the Kill The Bill approach in January….

  15. FDL has a New Whip Count and they’re reporting that Stupak say’s he’s done with Pilosi. Aren’t we all?

    • good, I’m glad the pro choice block disabused them of the notion that they’d sell out all women when Stupak wouldn’t sell out a clump of cells

      • Maybe that was all theatre to make the Dem women feel like that made a stand and made a small victory. Because they never really needed Stupak’s vote, only to have some drama for effect.

      • we can only hope that’s what happened.

    • Wrote this below, but will repeat here…

      NM CD-22…Harry Teague, first termer Dem is NOT VOTING for this bill…says it doesn’t cut costs and helps insurance cos. more than people…

  16. BTW everyone — Happy First Day of Spring! Everyone should go out and check for new life springing forth from the ground. Daffodils and hyacinths will be here soon!

    • It’s been such a mild winter up here in the PNW that the daffodils have been out for weeks! And the apple blossoms are starting to go away, too.

    • After 3 blizzards this winter, crocuses are up in the front! 🙂

  17. Stupak aides say discussions continuing with Pelosi. What’s to be believed?


  18. Now this might be worth watching: Rove vs Plouffe


    Too bad it’s not a cage match

  19. http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/20/us/politics/20health.html?th&emc=th

    The NYT coverage on the stupak maneuvering is kind of interesting …

    “We don’t want another vote on abortion,” said Representative Diana DeGette, Democrat of Colorado and a champion of abortion rights, as she left a meeting Friday evening in the office of Speaker Nancy Pelosi. “We are not going to vote for a bill that restricts women’s right to choose beyond current law.”

    Evidently the medicare provisions are the other snag

  20. lots of snags

  21. Stupak bloc spin:


    Democratic lawmakers and aides say they will get the votes they need even if they don’t win the support of Stupak and some of his allies, but reaching 216 is significantly more difficult — and at least potentially, impossible — without them.

    Rep. Dan Lipinski (D-Ill.), though, said Stupak’s group is holding firm.

    He said that to support the legislation he needs an ironclad guarantee that Stupak’s language will be resurrected and enforced — whether the vehicle is legislation or executive action.

    “There’s still time and they still need votes,” he said.

    Rep. Joseph Pitts (R-Pa.), a close friend and ally of Stupak, also told POLITICO that the pro-life Democrats are holding the line and that their votes will be needed to pass the bill.

    “Bart’s always said this’ll come down to Saturday night at 11 o’clock,” Pitts said.

  22. From AP:

    “The Congressional Budget Office said Friday that rolling back a programmed cut in Medicare fees to doctors (the “doc fix”) would cost $208 billion over 10 years. If added back to the health care overhaul bill (which it will be, of course), it would wipe out all the deficit reduction, leaving the legislation $59 billion in the red. ”

    (All comments in parentheses are mine).

  23. Also from AP (via SFGate article titled “Final health bill omits some of Obama’s promises”):

    “It was a bold response to skyrocketing health insurance premiums. President Barack Obama would give federal authorities the power to block unreasonable rate hikes.

    Yet, when Democrats unveiled the final, incarnation of their health care bill this week, the proposal was nowhere to be found. ”

    Surprised? I’m not.

  24. From earlier in the week, Dr. Sheila Levitt at Physicians for a National Health Program wrote an article in The Progressive called, “For gender-equal health care, enact Medicare for All” :

    President Obama’s health reform proposal is not good for women, so it’s ironic he’s pushing it through during Women’s History Month.

    His plan amounts to “a giant leap backward for women,” says the National Organization for Women (NOW).

    This assessment is based on three main problems: a failure to ban gender rating in a timely fashion, a failure to ban age rating, and a real threat to abortion coverage.

    Levitt goes on to detail these problems and then says:

    Instead of the president’s proposal, we need a single-payer health care plan. It would end the view of women as expensive liabilities who get in the way of maximizing profit. Under an improved Medicare for All, women and men would get the full range of medical services whenever they need it.

    The savings from eliminating wasteful paperwork and bureaucracy – estimated at $400 billion annually – would be more than enough to cover everybody.

    All women, and every man born of woman, even senators, must ultimately admit the fairness of this approach. It’s the remedy we need.

    Not only is Obamacare not universal healthcare, not only does it universally trap both women and men in for-profit insurance hell, but on top of that it deepens the gender inequity in healthcare for women. And, that’s not even with Stupak’s amendment! Thanks for telling Sweetie to go to the back of the bus, Pelosi and Obama. Helluva a way to celebrate Women’s history month.

    • Acronym “Translation) of the Month:

      From Chris Floyd:

      HCR means High Corporate Revenues

      (Correction: Floyd used “Returns’ — which covers not only the high profits, but all the protections their donations and lobbyists buy them. I still like Revenues, especially for Obama’s BHIP-PPP or Big Healht Insurance Parasites’ Proft Protection Plan.)

  25. Tweet from Ambinder

    @marcambinder End Around: RT WH & Dem leaders floating trial balloon in press of exec order to clarify abortion funding policy. #women #hcr

    • That explains the blurb from Politico about the Stupak bloc saying “whether the vehicle is legislative or executive action”

    • just realized that was TM’s retweet of Ambinder

      btw, TM is now apparently welcoming “I want Obama to fail” diaries… funny the difference a year makes.

  26. My rep here in NM C-2 is NOT voting for the Health shit bill because it does nothing to really contain costs and seems to be more of help to the insurance cos. than the people…

    Harry Teague…didn’t vote for him in the primary but will work like crazy to keep him in, since our choice is the former Rep. Steve Pearce, GOP crapass, who screwed us endlessly before and never held an open town meeting whenever he did show up…

  27. Again: Wake me up please and tell me how we got into this stream of reality where we are having to defined reproductive choice from a Democratic Party Onslaught? Check to see if Leonard Nimoy has grown a mustache and gottee.

  28. I guess this is off topic but, I’ve been thinking about Phillip Roth’s book, “Our Gang” lately. It was my first exposure to discussions about the “rights of the unborn.” Here’s a quote from Wikipedia ::

    The book is six chapters long. Chapter one is entitled “Tricky comforts a troubled citizen”. In the chapter, the citizen in question is concerned with William Calley’s killing of twenty-two Vietnamese villagers at My Lai, but he is “seriously troubled by the possibility that Lieutenant Calley may have committed an abortion”. Throughout the chapter, Dixon defends the notion that Calley may have killed a pregnant woman, covering many factors; If the pregnant woman was showing or not, if Calley could have communicated with her, if he really did know she was pregnant, whether the woman asked Calley to give her an abortion or not, etc. In true Nixonian style, Trick E. Dixon manages to defend Calley well until the citizen asks if Calley could have given her an abortion against her will, as “an outright form of murder”, and Dixon gives the following answer, which is supposed to reflect his background as a lawyer and his hard-to-pin-down nature:

    Well, of course, that is a very iffy question, isn’t it? What we lawyers call a hypothetical instance-isn’t it? If you will remember, we are only “supposing” there to have been a pregnant woman in the ditch at My Lai to begin with. Suppose there “wasn’t” a pregnant woman in that ditch — which, in fact, seems from all evidence to have been the case. We are then involved in a totally academic discussion.


    It was written in 1971 and I think Political conversations have pretty much gone downhill since.

    • This must be very traumatic for Obama. Now he’s going to have throw people under the bus and sign his name to it.

    • yup I posted about that above (Ambinder’s tweet)… that’s the “other accommodation” for Stupakidiots.

  29. “Deem and pass” is dead. There will be three votes tomorrow, assuming Pelosi doesn’t reschedule (which I think is likely):


  30. CSPAN has the House deliberations


  31. {{{ppppffffrtttt}}}} Dennis Cardoza (D-CA) just asked on the floor of the House about the Washington Post article published a few minutes ago reporting that Demon Pass is dead.

  32. They are now doing things in 4 steps:

    1) House vote on Reconciliation provisions
    2) House vote on Senate Bill
    3) House vote on Senate bill as amended (?? why??)
    4) Senate votes on House bill/Senate Bill as amended.

  33. Per Steny Hoyer

    Abortion is still “under discussion.”

    Reid is coming over to deliver the letter with 50+ signatures supporting the House reconciliation provisions.

    • Obamarama Teh Greatest Progressive of All Time Evah would do an executive order restricting women’s rights before he’d do one suspending DADT discharges. I could see that.

  34. Geebus. On CSPAn some guy just called in on the “Democrats” line and sounded like he was drunk.

  35. Obama is about to speak to Congress:


  36. Hoyer said that Obama proclaimed that there is *wide spread* support among Americans for *some form of* healthcare reform.

  37. “This is our moment”

  38. Obama Approval Ratings

    Daily Rasmussen (3/17-19)
    43 approve (56 disapprove)

    Daily Gallup (3/16-18)
    47 approve (47 disapprove)

  39. How?

  40. I just called Rep. Diana DeGette of Pro choice , got a guy, He listened but, I got the “who knows” listen. I told him I knew what was in this bill etc, and I ended with, ” I wonder where Barbara Jordan is.” Silence. Also told him I was an FDR Dem. and I was thru, not voting or working or giving money anymore. Find some more suckers.

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