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“Why Hillary Clinton Might Have Made a Better President”

Matthew Rothschild

No, I didn’t write that headline. It’s the headline of a post by Matthew Rothschild, editor of The Progressive Magazine. Rothschild begins:

Has it ever crossed your mind that maybe Hillary Clinton might have made a better President than Barack Obama?

It’s sure crossed my mind a lot lately, as we’ve seen Obama flounder so badly on health care, on the bank bailout, on foreclosures, and on the jobs front.

Yes, yes, that has crossed my mind. In fact it crossed my mind way back in January of 2008. I don’t know why you’re so late in realizing this simple fact, but welcome to a growing club.

I’ll leave out the part of the post where Rothschild establishes his CDS creds–you probably can guess what it says. Hillary is a “centrist” and “hawkish” and a drama queen. He doesn’t explain how that differentiates her from Barack, but I understand he need to justify himself to his audience. But…here’s the but:

Remember back in the campaign, when she mocked Obama’s invocation of bipartisanship by saying: “The sky will open. The lights will come down. Celestial choirs will be singing and everyone will know we should do the right thing and the world will be perfect!”

She was criticized for being harsh, or as the sexists put it, “shrill.”

But she was right, especially when she added: “Maybe I’ve just lived a little long, but I have no illusions at how hard this is going to be. You are not going to wave a magic wand and have the special interests disappear.”

She also made the case that she could take a punch and keep on fighting, and she called into question Obama’s willingness to play hardball.

Even the editor of The Progressive has to admit now that Hillary was right about Obama. Too bad he didn’t figure that out in time to make a difference. Nevertheless, welcome to the club, Matthew.

And then there’s this:

52 percent of Americans said President Barack Obama doesn’t deserve reelection in 2012, according to a new poll.

44 percent of all Americans said they would vote to reelect the president in two and a half years, less than the slight majority who said they would prefer to elect someone else.

Obama faces a 44-52 deficit among both all Americans and registered voters, according to a CNN/Opinion Research poll released Tuesday. Four percent had no opinion.

Only a little more than a year into Obama’s presidency, and he’s already looking like a lame duck.

65 Responses

  1. Just love that Rhode Island video!

  2. BB– I am afraid that this is lost behind two other posts and it is really important. I wish I could read the whole article, but it is behind the Progressive’s ‘iron curtain”.

    • I don’t know how you found it. I rescheduled it after I saw Quixote’s post and I goofed. The Progressive article is all there. It’s just a short blog post.

  3. PLEASE please please can we make these people write on the board 1000 times-

    “I drank the Kool-Aid and I was Wrong”

    • I’d rather have them just get over Obama and help the rest of us figure out how to pick up the pieces.

      • Amen! I still for the life of me can not see how otherwise intelligent people were taken in by Obama. The information was there all along- had they cared to look.

        • I think it’s the CDS and the misogyny.

          • And the unpredecented historisticallness of his candidacy.

            My milieu is Chicago of the 70s. I remember the confused and tense racial atmosphere of the time. Quite a lot of my fellow Northern white libs have demons to exorcise and leapt upon Obama as the chance to do so. He had a real Pied-Piper appeal to this crowd.

          • The misogyny is still there. It’s muted now because Obama turned out to be a big flop, but it’s still there and will come out again. They cannot be trusted as far as you can throw them. I wouldn’t listen to their ideas on “how to pick up the pieces.” They should listen, for a change, to yours (and mine).

          • do you think any of these media shrews would call a man a drama queen? Nope.
            Hillary is neither a centrist, a hawk. or a drama queen. What she is, is a smart person who looks for real solutions which can work at the time and not an ideologue who only knows talking points.

            This guy needs a few emails defending Hillary. I am so sick of these men and unfortunately women who have to always, ALWAYS, give some chicken-ass disclaimer before they write an idea not popular among the village elite.

      • no kidding, with all the democratic incumbents heading for the hills, we should look for some better replacements to run against the Republicans

  4. Amazing isn’t it how many of these “progressives” are scrambling around, beating their chests and crying: how did this happen? Or how Hillary Clinton would have been better–more competent, tougher, an actual leader.

    Hello? Remember us? We were the people screaming the very same thing way back in early 2008.

    Self-inflicted blindness. The evidence was there [not that you would have found it through the MSM].

    Frankly, I find these public confessions disgusting because all they’re meant to do is deflect responsibility for what the koolaide drinkers and an arrogant DNC foisted on all of us.

    I said this over at NQ last night: These people, Rothschild, Zuckerman, Lessig et al, ought to slip on the word “betrayal” and see how it feels.

    Because we certainly know. It’s their turn now.

    • I agree. The problem with all of these people waking up and noticing how wrong Obama was as the DNC selection, is that they were a big part of that selection. They have responsibility.

      And if they don’t take that responsibility and explore how it happened and how to fix that bug, then it will just happen again and again and again.

    • Lessig has changed his tune now?

      • Yes. I picked up a piece over at The Nation–How We Can Save Our Democracy [actually a pretty good article]–and Lessig was bemoaning how the President had squandered the moment and how astonished he [Lessig] was with President Obama’s ineffectual approach.

        Ya think??

        Please! These shell-shocked liberals are suppose to be some of our best and brightest. If they didn’t see this disaster in the making, why did we?

        I don’t know whether the stunned reactions are genuine or just a way of avoiding the messy fallout.

        It’s sickening either way.

  5. Hillary is a “drama queen”? Say what?

    That’s ridiculous.

    The MSM likes to write dramas about her — but that’s their doing, not hers.

    • Here is what Rothschild said: “I was sick of the Clinton dramarama.”

      I interpreted that as “drama queen.” Maybe I went too far.

      • All the Clinton “dramas” are media inventions, so it’s the same thing.

        • More evidence that CDS drove them. I really am surprised. I thought some of them had longer memories than that.

      • Look what “No Drama Obama” got us… absolutely nothing…

        I’ll take the Clinton soap opera that was The Nineties any day over the morass of big fat nothing that we have now.

    • The only drama I saw from Hillary was the scene on the floor of the convention during roll call where they called on her to take the lead part in their off-broadway play, “Teh One Won”.

    • Women = drama.

      And Bill Clinton was hated because his wife was a feminist. He’s treated as a woman (hence Clinton drama) and a proxy for feminism. Clinton haters use his philandering against him as a suggestion he had to cheat because his wife was ugly as in “ugly feminist.” JFK’s womanizing is worshiped because his wife knew her place and was a Stepford wife.

      • and no one ever mentions Bush 1’s long time mistress…say what? Yeah, Jennifer Fitzgerald I think her name was. So what was the difference? The difference was the republican party’s and the msm’s evil behavior for nothing but spite. None of them care about Americans or the well being of our nation. Yes there are some democrats just as bad, like the thugs from Chicago we call the current administration, but in general, up till this point, Democrats actually wanted to get something good done in DC.

  6. Remember The People nominated Hillary and the Dems made her step aside at the convention and Threw out Primary results in multiple states which she won and corrupted caucuses in multiple states and dragged out sexist attacks so they could gift us with Obama. The People knew it back in 2008.

    • It is fascinating (if horrifying) to watch the consequences of the RBC decision and denied roll call vote ripple across the party and through time.

  7. OT but I am curious about this new TSA “swabbing” of palms for explosive residue? How much of this residual stuff would wear off/wash off in the normal course of the day? How small of an amount can these tests detect? What are the odds that this is at all effective? Is this just something being done to show something is being done, albeit nothing of substance? How much is this costing? What are the chances that residual remnants of “explosive” materials could be picked up by anyone in the course of any given day riding around the subways and cabs of NYC? Who is walking around doing the swabbing and testing? The same geniuses who do the body scannings?

    • LOL – I’m pretty sure if I were going to handle explosives, I’d be wearing latex gloves to keep it from touching my skin in case it was dangerous to absorb.

      TSA and Homeland Security are bandaid bandits who want us to think they are doing something to protect us. Otherwise, we might demand they disband and give us our freedoms back.

  8. I so loved that R.I. speech by HRC. I thought it was one of her better moments during the campaign.

    • I wish she had kept doing it, but she probably would have been crucified by the O-bots. Meanwhile no one even noticed that Obama gave the finger in speeches three times.

      Except us, that is.

      • They noticed and thought it was funny – then they pretended they didn’t notice.

        I have yet to see that method of face scratching used in any other context.

        • And he has not done it again, as far as I know.

          • He did recently in PA. The local mayor was a strong Hillary supporter during the primaries. Obama called the names of the Dem dignitaries at the mtg and when he got to the mayor”s name, he scratched his face the same way. I saw the video at a couple of Hillary blogs (maybe at Hillaryis44).

      • Those subtle digs that he did was what fired up the o-blogosphere. They loooved when he would disrespect her.

  9. Even though many of these Obama pushers are now trying to unleash themselves from the idiocy of their choice, each and every one carefully rewrites things to try and reduce how foolish they were.

    “Remember back in the campaign, when she mocked Obama’s invocation of bipartisanship by saying: “The sky will open. The lights will come down. Celestial choirs will be singing and everyone will know we should do the right thing and the world will be perfect!”

    She wasn’t mocking Obama’s invocation of anything. She was mocking the people who were giving him Messiah status and believed he could change the world just by being himself with a title. They can’t admit that, though, so they pretend she wasn’t mocking them, she was mocking Obama. Sheesh.

  10. Wow, the “told you so’s” are coming more and more rapidly these days!

    Thanks for the link, BB.

  11. Who DOESN”T have buyer’s remorse these days?

    • Those of us who didn’t vote for The One.

      • Don’t you just feel smarter that we all knew before them?

        • I don’t. If I hadn’t been reading across the blogosphere, I might never have known about the RBC decision and so much about Obama’s record or lack thereof.

          I could easily have stuck with class consciousness and voted Obama. I’m just lucky I read widely, I guess.

  12. If you get a moment, I left a response in the comments section under DailyPUMA yesterday that you may appreciate.

  13. Nice to see this at the top!

    Here’s something else that’s nice to see: Wailing and gnashing of teeth at the Big Orange Sippy Cup. We knew it had to happen, and it’s started before now. But you’ll love these entries under an article about Obama planning to screw up Social Security (hope this isn’t too much to post).

    *****

    All in quotes:

    I’m already agnostic on him.

    by environmentalist on Tue Feb 16, 2010 at 07:14:30 AM PST

    I’m worse than agnostic (67+ / 0-)
    I can no longer stand the guy. I shut off the radio/TV whenever he is on; the only other person I’ve done this to was Bush. Obama is turning out to be bad news beyond belief, dishonest and a traitor to the Democratic Party.

    Don’t let the awful be the enemy of the horrifically bad.

    by virtual0 on Tue Feb 16, 2010 at 07:28:59 AM PST

    Damn. (68+ / 0-)
    You know, just 2-3 months ago I would have told you to chill out and give the guy some time.

    Now? Not too much.

    by environmentalist on Tue Feb 16, 2010 at 07:40:24 AM PST

    yup, I was told that many many times 6 (47+ / 0-)
    months ago when I said Obama was selling us down the river on hcr. Hardly anyone believed it then even though the evidence was becoming pretty inconvertible. Man have things changed on this site. But people who don’t follow the news closely – and even many who do – still had/have a very hard time coming to terms to what this guy is about. A most masterful con artist.

    Don’t let the awful be the enemy of the horrifically bad.

    by virtual0 on Tue Feb 16, 2010 at 08:11:06 AM PST

    When Barack Obama says (104+ / 0-)
    he’s agnostic on something, it is a signal to Baucus or soem other corporate Dem to F..K us. See, e.g., Public Option, which he claimed to be for, but did not need.

    We have seen this movie before.

    Fix It and Pass It

    by TomP on Tue Feb 16, 2010 at 08:15:13 AM PST

    It’s a signal to Judd Gregg (33+ / 0-)
    to get out the meat cleaver b/c the president won’t stand in the way.

    And Obama finally got Judd Gregg in the door to a position where he could do some damage.

    Call it a Plastic Democracy if that makes you feel good. I call it Fascism.

    by CitizenOfEarth on Tue Feb 16, 2010 at 08:57:09 AM PST

    I thought I just read yesterday that (6+ / 0-)
    Judd Gregg is not invited to the big hooha Feb. 25, after he, Gregg came out and said he is ready to work with the prez.

    Indict, convict, imprison. “Those who do not learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.” George Santayana

    by incognita on Tue Feb 16, 2010 at 09:18:55 AM PST

    [snip]

    to the right of Obama? (2+ / 0-)
    His words…or deeds?

    The young man who has not wept is a savage, and the old man who will not laugh is a fool. George Santayana

    by Bobjack23 on Tue Feb 16, 2010 at 02:46:58 PM PST

    Is there any room to the right of Obama? Skinny (0+ / 0-)
    he is, but not so skinny that someone can squeeze between him and the far right of the Democratic Party.

    by ej25 on Tue Feb 16, 2010 at 09:16:09 PM PST

    More and more I’m convinced that Obama is a…… (35+ / 0-)
    …..corporate wolf in sheep’s clothing. Why else would the big corporate interests and Wall Street have pumped so much money into his campaign if not for their expectations of a fat return on investment.

    I honestly don’t see that much separating this administration from the previous one. Obama cannot win a second term if he doesn’t make a sharp correction to his current trajectory. Many of Obama’s liberal base are jumping ship and the independents have lost faith. As much as he loves to talk about kumbaya the Repugs will never support him.

    If Obama doesn’t change course, which I don’t expect that he will, I hope, for the sake of our country, that he will announce his retirement well in advance of the 212 campaign so that the Democrats can run a good campaign with a good candidate.

    by calibpatriot on Tue Feb 16, 2010 at 10:19:22 AM PST

    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2010/2/16/93027/1214?detail=f

    • Is it wrong that I just want to smack these people? Obama’s base will abandon him, my eye. A little special sexist or classist or ageist fairy dust, and everything will be forgotten.

  14. Ya know, looking at Littlest O’s career, he has a pattern of failing and then getting booted upstairs. He’s the world’s highest ranking embodiment of the Peter Principle. If someone could arrange for him to be Pope, or something, he’d be out of that irritating president-thing in nothing flat. In fact, the whole thing is wearing on his thin skin so much that he might not want to do it again anyway. He could then become Head Ambassador To The World. Or some other path that Clinton and Carter blazed,

    • Another resemblance with Bush. Too big to fail, indeed.

      • Maybe we could shove him aside by giving him a throne and a crown and a scepter and an ermine-lined cape, a mirror — annoint him one of those kings that’s all symbol and no power, trot him out for Fourth of July parades, let him crack champagne over a couple newly launched ships? Hell, the could even name a ship or two after him, why not? I’m sure Hillary wouldn’t mind.

    • I really liked the people who freely admitted Hill was a better Senator. Hey. He sucks at his current job–let’s give him a promotion! Because Presidents have skill sets closer to spokesmodels than Senators.

    • Oh, no. If he gets booted up, where is that? Tell me he won’t become head of the world bank or the United Nations? Couldn’t we create a Supreme Ruler of Mars and give him that title?

  15. I read that Giganto Cheeto piece too, linked there by Joe Cannon. It’s major meltdown over there (btw I love “orange sippy cup,” LOL). There have been two diaries in as many days where Obots are gnashing their garments and rending their teeth over their Anointed One.

    But of course, not one of them, not one, says anything about the fact that what they are seeing now is exactly what we told them they’d see — over and over — until they ran us out of town on a rail. Over and over they whine ‘He fooled us, he’s not what he campaigned as, we were told one thing and sold another,” to which I call BS. They KNEW and chose not to know. They were told, and didn’t listen. They heard the same words we did and saw the same actions, and if they didn’t draw the same conclusions, clearly they were too stupid and delusional to be trusted with a say in any election. SO which is it, Obots?

    Meanwhile, I’m with Joe Cannon: No forgiveness until they grovel and tell us, “You were right and we were wrong.” None.

    • I’ll never forgive, and I’ll never forget. Apologies mean nothing to me. I just want them to STFU and work for some real liberal policies.

  16. Yeah, what she said!

  17. In a nutshell here is what happened to us…………..We elected the cool guy (high school jock) or rather the cool guy was selected for us over the not too bad looking reliable geek. At the back of our minds we weren’t too sure about the cool dude but the media kept egging us on. He was not just cool and good looking, but he went to Harvard, he was brilliant and had good judgment. Nothing to substantiate that but we took their word for it and passed on reliable and solid………. Unfortunately the cool good looking guy is not performing………….So in easy to understand terms………….
    Betsy marries a Brad Pitt type, because……….he is charming and just so good looking. Thing is, Brad here is lazy and does not put food on the table for their five kids. At the time Betsy thought she had made the right decision marrying Brad over Spencer who was head over heels in love with her and would do everything possible to make a better life for her. Spencer was hard working, steady, dependable and reliable. But no Betsy opted for cool and charming now she is paying the price………Alas we made a bad decision in 2008

  18. Drama Queen? Who is steadier and more deliberate than Hillary? Ridiculous, and another phrase with subtext that means, “Women can’t be trusted–they are just emotional hysterics.”

  19. “Might”? No doubt about it. Obama will rank among the worst ever at this rate. People are already comparing him to Shrub.

    That is the problem with believing your own PR. He was promoted for his image all along, not enough for his actual accomplishments.

    I was told recently that a president doesn’t need any experience. Everything is done by his advisors. But doesn’t the Decider need to be adept enough to pick the right advisors, and to have goals in mind for the country? Something he believes in enough to make happen? What is missing, Mr. Obama? Why did you spend all of this money to be president? For what?

  20. I think the drama queens that have maybe turned people off are the TV pundits who have a cow whenever Hillary demonstrated she knows alot more than they do about any subject they could think of.
    Remember back to the debates when every question was a gotcha and she would sail through her answers and Obama would repeat what she said. She was always questioned first until the last ABC debate when Obama floundered then declared he didn’t want to play anymore . That was just after Hillary finally spoke up, “fluffing his pillow”, and ABC led off the debate questioning Obama first at last.

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