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Kicking off Epiphany Weekend: Reprising PUMA Power

Good morning, all!  It’s been another busy week in the suburban jungle.  Epiphany was two days ago and we missed it.  But we have had many epiphanies over the past couple of years about the Democratic party, Barack Obama and what they were up to.  We were right more often than not.  We never would have dreamed in a million years that the party would actually have the chutzpah to dump 18 million voters using the FL and MI disenfranchisement mechanism.  But it did.  Everything else that followed from that was entirely predictable.

So, I’m going to open Epiphany weekend for The Confluence.  Over the next couple of days, we’ll dredge up the muck that we saw and from which we made entirely rational extrapolations about what kind of president Barack Obama was likely to be.  You didn’t have to be a rocket scientist to figure this out.  All you had to do is work with the evidence at hand.  It was all right there if you cleared the smoke from your eyes.

Here’s the first post from June 2, 2008 called PUMA Power.  The Confluence has evolved away from PUMA since the election.  We’re trying to find a new definition for ourselves.  For the time being, we are simply The Confluence.


PUMA Power

Posted on June 2, 2008 by riverdaughter

The Party Unity My Ass un-Party (PUMA) was born yesterday. We already have many new members. But, some of you may ask, what does it mean? How can we make a difference? Before I get to that, I’d like to refer you to one of Anglachel’s latest posts, The Idea of Obama. I think that what Anglachel is describing is a kind of “puppy love” or an infatuation. The situation we have here is precisely the reason why superdelegates were created in the first place. There is a unacknowledged immaturity about the Obama faction that many parents among us will recognize. Here’s the money quote:

The deep problem of Obama’s campaign is that he and his supporters do not want to face the political reality of their own conflicting desires. They both want to sweep to victory in November and they want to purge the party of anything connected to the Clintons, which includes all of the voting contituencies represented by that amazing and talented duo. The failure of the Unity Pony stems directly from that fantasy of majority status without majority support and the political work and compromises that go with cultivating that support. Thus, their model for unity is unanimity through elimination, purging the ranks of the unclean and unbelievers.

They will not acknowledge that Hilalry is a legitimate political actor and reduce her to an inhuman monster and enemy. They will not acknowledge that her supporters have sound, rational reasons for our support, and reduce us to mindless fools and spoils of war. They shift blame for their own choices and actions onto us and expect that we will cater to their whims.

Like adolescents, they insist on making their own decisions and yet expect us to get them out of a jam later. They hate us because of who we are and yet they need us in order for them to get what they want. And the superdelegates are the too permissive parents who are giving in to them because they can’t handle the screaming and guilt trips that will follow if they don’t.

This is where we come in, PUMAs. We will fill the role that the superdelegates have abrogated. It is our job to say “no”. We do not want to lose in 2008. We do not want another four years of Republican rule. We want 4 years of intelligence, competence and courage in a time of what will surely be a very critical time in our nation’s history. Terrorism is still out there. There are two wars going on. Our military is stretched so thinly that our national security is compromised. We have an energy crisis and many families are hurting. Our financial institutions got themselves over their heads. And there is a serious environmental catastrophe at hand in global warming.

Now is not the time to put a love object in office, a weakling who will be entirely dependent on his power elite enablers. Or worse, he may be a dissembler who has barely disguised his contempt for the voters.

There will be a lot of calls for “Unity!”. But let us acknowledge what this really is. “Unity” is a weapon that the party is going to use against us. It is the emotional blackmail of the teenager. “If you don’t let me have my way, it will be all YOUR fault if something bad happens!” “If you don’t get in line, it will be YOUR fault if we lose.”

Don’t give in to this. This is where a parent’s mettle is tested. When the stakes are not high, like staying up too late on a school night, we can afford to let them live with the consequences of their actions. When the situation is critical, we have to be firm. We have to give them choices. We have to tell them that we will not be willing participants in their destructive behavior. We have to tell them that the consequences of their behavior will fall on *their* heads. We have to take away the car keys. Not ground them. Just not aid them in doing what they want. We have to exert our authority.

That goes for superdelegates as well who are failing in their responsibilities. We will hold them accountable as well. If they allow these children to run the house, they will have to live with the consequences, not us.

Barack Obama is a ruthless campaigner who has brought out the worst in the political system but no matter how far he has come, he is a failure. He has failed to live up to core Democratic principles, He has failed to respect the voters. He has failed to disguise his contempt for average, hard working American men and women. And because he has failed in so many ways to appeal to the electorate at large, he will fail the ultimate contest. He will be a failed presidential candidate. We do not wish to be associated with failure while there is still time and an opportunity to avoid it.

We will not be blackmailed into party unity in order to indulge irresponsible people in their fantasies. Our votes belong to us and we will do with them what we feel is best for us, the party and the country.

101 Responses

  1. And now the failure we tried to prevent is here. The press reprises the “3AM” argument writing how Obama failed to act during the last emergency.
    And B0bots who got their ways (with the help of a lot of bucks from the beneficiaries of this scheme) are now throwing tantrums and refusing to admit their role in it.
    On the job training in today’s headlines

    • What I got from the speech was ” They screwed up (finger point) and they screwed up (finger point) and they screwed up too (finger point) but since they work for me (sigh) technically I’ll take responsibility”

      Something seems really off with all the shots he’s taking at the various agencies. I’m not being very articulate but his response so far is really rubbing me the wrong way.

      • You were perfectly articulate. You expressed what I had bubbling in my brain, very well. Thank you.

      • And I wouldn’t argue with you as I never watched, listened to any. Today’s headlines is all I have

      • this is how I read him:

        “now I am going to take blame for these freaking incompetent idiots who are making me look bad. That way the American people can see how humble and responsible I am taking responsibility for failures that are clearly, and I will make sure everyone knows that, the fault of lesser people than myself”.

      • LOL.
        I love the ending where it says BO is inviting BIll Clinton to the WH and he hopes BO asks him where that red phone is and how to use it.

      • That’s hilarious!

      • now he finds out .

      • Far more terrifying was how basic and fundamental these breakdowns were.

        In the future, Obama said, “we must follow the leads that we get.”

        You think?

        “We can’t sit on information that could protect the American people.”


        “We must do better in keeping dangerous people off of airplanes.”

        You don’t say! http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/hillary_was_right_fails_the_phone_OOkY1azIMVGzykoVWCCozM#ixzz0c2YLPIPp

        Well, I guess the journalist are done with the excitement and are worried about their travel plan and thus has gone /snarky on President Obama. I will believe it when they ask some hard questions during the briefings or start to demand that ‘transparency’ promise.

        • I don’t care who the President is, security eventually gets lax and someone finds a weak spot.

          After a few years looking through peoples dirty laundry day in and day out, they function on autopilot because they really don’t expect to ever find anything. Meanwhile, the terrorists are looking for new ways to blow shit up and kill people.

          Tim McVeigh used a Ryder truck, fuel oil and fertilizer. He didn’t have to pass through any airports or security checkpoints, he just drove to Oklahoma, parked the truck, set the timer and walked away.

          • The CIA should pass vetting of these “spies” through the Israeli security system, obviously not the Jordanian one.

            I flat out don’t fly any more. I’m waiting until the GOP re-captures the WH to re-consider.

          • The major airports in Europe have traffic as busy as our big metro center airports and they have much higher percentage of cross border flights. Since the 70s when airlines became popular targets for hostage taking, security protocols have been tight and professional at Euro airports, and their record has been good, people have adjusted and the traffic flows. In comparison, our airport checks are not as serious, professional or efficient imo.

  2. Thanks, RD, for giving us a much needed reminder of why, when we are still weary and hurting, we still need to be here with our (and your) voice.

  3. Now is not the time to put a love object in office, a weakling who will be entirely dependent on his power elite enablers. Or worse, he may be a dissembler who has barely disguised his contempt for the voters.

    So true so very sad…….failure after failure..

    Abdulhakim Muhammad June 2009 Killed 1
    Major Nidal Hasan Nov 2009 Killed 13
    Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab tried to kill hundreds
    Inman Anwar Al Awelaki

    So I know it’s really really tough to be an journalist or employee in the intelligence services but hows about this list for dots connecting anyone…..and oh yeah Brenner is right I am shocked, and shocked they think we are dumb enough like the media to fall for the ah shucks I let the One down…not the American People by the way, or certainly not the dead or the almost dead from their failures to investigate the prievious two Yemen terror attacks as maybe a sign that the Yemen-based branch of al Qaeda were operationized now lets move on. Oh and Obama’s loner theme, smoke of course so the Obots have a sound bite and won’t or can’t add, or maybe if an Obot wanted to insist Obama did not intentially mis lead the coutnry, I guess if he had included the other 2 then maybe he could still use loner as a decriptor as in 3 loners ALL tied to Yemen attacked and two sucessfully killed 14 in this country in the last 7 months.

    And I just cringed at the Obots and Dem Party lackies defense last night on cable talk… that George Bush did the same as the justification and the bench mark by which Obama performance at the same level as the worst President of the United States, ever, was therefore a good thing……!

    We as the electorate are empowered if we choose but we must unite if we are to remove the death grip the TWO political parties have on our country..

  4. Principle Before Party Forever

  5. catarina, ..thanks…. I’m so angry about yesterday’s lecture from the doofus that is the One and his two assitant doofuses that I didn’t think I could laugh but that last line funny ha ha…… but really it’s like GWB is still sitting in the Oval office

    • Except, for me, GWB was less annoying. Hard to believe but true.

      • I think because GWB did not betray any promises to us.
        He was clearly an opponent of the left from the start.

        • He ran as an “uniter, not a divider” in 2000.

          • Sounds familiar somehow.

          • ..and that did work the country was united against GWB…and after reading all the papers today along with the jobs report ……so now has Obama

            ….hopefully we don’t let this crisis go to waste….instead using this opportunity…. to dump any incumbent that dose not have a really wacko fringe person running against them

      • Same here, bb.

        Texans were ANGRY that The One and his sycophants pretty much blew off the warnings of the Fort Hood massacre. They won’t forget.

        • ..HM I don’t believe for a second he blew them off……..I believe he and his, made a knowing political judgment and a bad one at that, by insisting the Major and Abdulhakim Muhammad, before him, be portrayed, despite all they knew, as loners and not part of a large terror group with ties to Yemen. People appear to not know that before Mt Hood, in June 2009 Abdulhakim Muhammad Killed 1 was describe as a loner, had ties with Yemen and had even recently visited the country.

          • How else could they cover their behinds but try to portray these attacks as not part of an organized guerrilla war by devoted terrorists. If they admit it’s a terrorist attack on US soil, compliments of Al Qaeda, Cheney can do his Darth Vader thing on them.

          • Terrorism is a tactic, not an ideology.

      • Amazing isn’t it? I didn’t think it possible before.

        This post brings back memories. Thanks to RD and you all.

      • funny, I actually remember saying (about Dubya) that it just couldn’t get any worse. I had NO idea…

        • I’ll second that.

        • I actually told all my leftist friends that 0bama will be worse than Bush. For one thing, there will be no leftist opposition…to speak of, and for another thing, the country will be in such a much weaker, precarious position that he will not have a clue in what to do, so he will do the thing that will enrich himself and his elitist cronies the most.

          • Obama wants to get reelected so he is doing
            it the easiest way:
            he is following in W’s footsteps …

            so the rightwingers couldn’t ask for a better
            Prez until it is their time to rule again … very likely
            in three years. I wouldn’t be at all surprised if
            there will be a Bush III in the WH.

      • Perhaps GWB’s eyebrow action and other twitches made him seem less like a swivel-head in front of the telepromptor.

        I literally got dizzy yesterday watching swivel-head.

        • @jaketapper: POTUS hasn’t had press conf since july. Chip Reid asked Gibbs about that, he replied that pundits say POTUS overexposed.

          He gives many statements and speeches, but he doesn’t answer questions that often.

      • Me, too. With all we saw coming, who saw that happening? I would’ve bet a thousand bucks against it.

  6. Wow, RD, you had him nailed: ” a weakling who will be entirely dependent on his power elite enablers. Or worse, he may be a dissembler who has barely disguised his contempt for the voters.” Absolutely spot on.

  7. Anyone else from PA? I’ve decided to vote for Sestak (over Specter) in the primary.

  8. pumacrat power

  9. Now that Dodd is out, would be good to have a different Treasury Secretary in place while the Senate is currently working on this Financial Reform bill.


  10. Why is Bill helping this poor excuse for a liberal:

    Two Presidents Meet, With Campaign Clashes Behind Them

    But since Obama took the oath of office, Clinton has proved to be a loyal and understated ally, keeping mostly to the work of his foundation and doing some political events for his wife’s biggest supporters. He has been called on by the White House several times, most famously when he flew to North Korea to personally arrange for the return of American journalists being held by the oppressive regime. The two presidents have met in person at least three times now, be it at the White House or at a New York restaurant. They’ve consulted by phone other times as well, developing a collegial relationship grounded in the unique status each holds as the elected leader of the free world.


    • I think Bill is just keeping a watchful eye on Teh One.
      And it’s not like BO would listen to any advice from Bill; he only does what his lobbyists pay him to do.

      Btw, I thought it was Gore that got Bill to get those journalists rescued. Now they want BO to claim that as a victory?

      • I think he is protecting Hillary. Bill knows what happens to people when Obama gets ticked, and he wants to preserve the best of Hillary for the future. Imagine what would happen to her if Bill didn’t give what BO asks him to.

    • Why is Bill helping this poor excuse for a liberal?

      Because Bill truly loves his country. Unlike the poor excuse who only loves himself.

      • I have said before that I don’t want Obama and/or the Democratic party to fail but that’s what I expected and that’s what’s happening. Actually it’s worse than I expected. But they won’t fail because I refused to cheerlead for them, and they won’t fail because of the GOPers or the mad hatters at the tea parties.

        They’ll fail because of their own words and deeds.

        The worst part is that real people are going to suffer the consequences of that failure, while the people responsible for the failure will flourish and prosper.

      • So Hillary won’t have more than she already has to clean up…when she picks out the drapes for her new oval shaped office

    • Bill flew to North Korea for his wife and those two women prisoners, not for Obama. He’s only met with Obama about three times, which doesn’t seem to be a lot, IMO. He does these things to prove his loyalty to the Democratic Party and to smooth relations with the Democratic voters who believed the Obama campaign lies that the Clintons were racists. Clinton has said nothing other than the obvious that Obama will be in deeper shit than he already is now if he doesn’t pass a healthcare bill that wasted an entire year “working” on. If Obama had his way Bill would be on a huge tour across America shilling for the POS bill. Bill has extended his hand in friendship for the sake of his legacy and the possibility that Hillary might run in 2016. Don’t think for a second Bill has forgotten what Obama did to him and his wife in 2008.

      • I completely agree. Bill will do whatever he can for the country, the people, the party, and his wife. He does absolutely nothing for Barry.

      • I know, I know…it just bugs me to see him even appearing to assist Obama after the way he treated him in 2008. Now that the scheming hypocrite has been unmasked, he wants Bill’s aid and comfort. Grrr…

  11. Thanks, RD – keep em coming!

  12. What bothers me is the way so many of the leaders of Left Blogistan turned into mirror clones of the M$M and the Bloviating Gasbags of Wingnuttia.

    It’s like a cross between Invasion of the Body Snatchers and The Stepford Wives.

    It’s embarrassing to admit I used to admire these people.

  13. Barack Obama is a ruthless campaigner who has brought out the worst in the political system but no matter how far he has come, he is a failure. He has failed to live up to core Democratic principles, He has failed to respect the voters. He has failed to disguise his contempt for average, hard working American men and women. And because he has failed in so many ways to appeal to the electorate at large, he will fail the ultimate contest. He will be a failed presidential candidate.

    sorry, couldn’t resist.

    • damn, my *bold* tags didn’t work.
      myiq, will you help me? pretty please?

    • I like that better than the nine times Obama said “fail” to describe his national security team earlier this week. 🙂 Course he then followed up with another speech to say, yes he’s big enough to take some of that responsibility on himself.

  14. Are we going to do anything about a 3rd party?

    Did the graphs work out on the survey?

  15. from Peggy Noonan, no less:

    The public in 2009 would have been happy to see a simple bill that mandated insurance companies offer coverage without respect to previous medical conditions. The administration could have had that—and the victory of it—last winter.

    Instead, they were greedy for glory.

    It was not worth it—not worth the town-hall uprisings and the bleeding of centrist support, not worth the rebranding of the president from center-left leader to leftist leader, not worth the proof it provided that the public’s concerns and the administration’s are not the same, not worth a wasted first year that should have been given to two things and two things only: economic matters and national security.


    • … center-left leader to leftist leader..
      People on the right that say this just crack me up. He’s obviously corporatist, doing the bidding of the insurance companies and other people who paid for his post. And if anything he’s moderate to conservative given that the people paying him want moderate to conservative things.

      Of course I understand the the point of propaganda. To Peggy and others it’s a game. We call someone who wants to reduce women’s rights and further empower the bonus class as liberal to the extreme. That way next time we get someone even further to the right. But to what end. Will they not be happy until we have someone who will enslave everyone but the royal palace? I mean, what the hell is their goal here? Do they not see that perhaps there are consequences to this game?

  16. Reminder–Hillary will be live talking about women’s health on C-Span 2 between around 2:30-2:45 pm EST, or you can catch the livestream here.

  17. I like the concept of Epiphany weekend (and epiphanies in general). Your point about the political blackmail is really germane:

    [There will be a lot of calls for “Unity!”. But let us acknowledge what this really is. “Unity” is a weapon that the party is going to use against us. It is the emotional blackmail of the teenager. “If you don’t let me have my way, it will be all YOUR fault if something bad happens!” “If you don’t get in line, it will be YOUR fault if we lose.”]

    This same old but unfortunately effective arguement is being made to progressive congressmembers right now in order to pass this steaming pile of a health care bill so Obama can have a “win”, preferably in time to announce in his SOU address. Meanwhile, Bart Stupak, pro-forced pregnancy Dem, in a front page NYT article indicated he was fine with voting against the bill. He said something to the effect that it would not be the end of the world if the bill did not pass. Imagine that!

    You made the point way back in the primaries that without consequences to be paid, nothing will change the Democratic party. You were and still are right.

    • Funny how we never hear about unity when the Democratic leadership is fucking us over.

      Nobody screamed “party unity” at Bart Stupak or Ben Nelson.

      • The Dem leadership only screams party unity when someone challenges the rigged system of Rs and Ds.

        • Where was party unity when the DNC tried to disenfranchise two states?

          • Donna B pushed party unity down an elevator shaft in that episode.

          • It is way too difficult to believe that what happened with the DNC last year wasn’t a collective effort to get Obama on the top of that ticket using whatever force they needed to. Members of the party had to have been under some serious threats for all of them to remain so silent….then, vocally switching their alliance to Obama in clusters following the last primary.

            I have to say, I think Obama and his team are downright scarey people.

          • I suspect they used Chicago mafia tactics.

  18. What I find interesting is that while the Obama coalition has been exposed as nothing more than an expensive PR smoke and mirrors campaign, the supporters who backed Hillary Clinton seem to be stronger than ever. If Hillary wanted to run in 2016 or even 2012 she could do it with a really strong coalition of Democrats and Independents. The Obots were so eager to write her political obituary over a year ago and now she has proven herself to be the true leader of the party and currently the Dems only hope to get back on track in the near future. As Anglachel said in one post, Hillary’s strengths are deeply rooted in the core of the party.

    I’m also reading Anglachel’s archives and she correctly predicted this in January 2008:

    People who support Obama, by the demographics, are people who won’t be harmed if he loses the election or fails to perform in office. It is a nearly costless vote for them, an extravagance. If they are wrong in their choice, it will be Clinton supporters who pay the price.

    I don’t know about the rest of you but my family has definitely paid the price for the acts of Bush and now Obama and the Democratic Party. I will also add that a lot of Obama supporters are paying the price including African-Americans and young people who are having a difficult time finding a job in this economy. Obama’s actions have royally screwed over people of almost every demographic except for those who bought him the election.

    • Sooner or later HRC will no longer be a member of the Obama administration.

      When that day arrives, CDS will come back in style like it never went away.

      • I believe that’s why Bill does what he can to support this administration.

        If Obama thinks there is the slightest chance she will think of running against him, she will be removed from her position and blamed for everything that has gone badly and what he feeds into the CDS will make last year’s effort to portray them as raycists look mild.

        I never have liked that Hillary went to a political place where her security is at the pleasure of this guy.

        • Given how she was treated by her Democratic colleagues in the Senate after the 2008 primaries — when they completely ignored her proposals on healthcare (to head a sub-committee that would write the legislation), the housing crisis (establishing something similar to HOLC) and even TARP (making govt an active shareholder in exchange for bailout), I bet Hillary was just dying to get out of that place, not the least to spare herself of further humiliation and at the same time be obliged to campaign for these bastards just to prove her party loyalty. She made the right decision to go to State Dept. And if you examine the various initiatives she’s pursuing as SOS, I think she’s trying to do two things for herself: show that she can manage a huge bureaucracy, and expand her network beyond the old, backstabbing Clinton hands and in the process create a potential support base independent of Bill’s.

    • The media pundit mob should also be paying a price. Maybe some of the journalists already are.

  19. ‘Universal Access to Reproductive Health’

    WOW, even the discussion title let’s us know she is on target with women’s rights and their health care needs.

    Go Hillary Go!


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