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The Thursday the Senate stood still

I don’t know how to analyze bias in reporting but, there’s very little talk of “health care” in this New York times piece: A “Holy War” says Orrin G. Hatch regarding the news that Harry Reid has merged the two Senate plans ::

Democrats expressed confidence that they would have the votes needed to move forward when the legislation hits its first test in the Senate, probably later this week. To get past that first procedural hurdle, Mr. Reid will need the votes of all 58 Democratic senators and the two independents aligned with them.
. . .
Republicans have vowed to fight the legislation at every turn, saying it represents a dangerous expansion in the role of government that would increase taxes and insurance costs for millions of people. “It’s going to be a holy war,” said Senator Orrin G. Hatch, Republican of Utah.

Oh, and it’s got a name now the , “Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act.” And (to “save money”) it mostly doesn’t go into effect until 2014.

For the actual details of the bill, check out Ezra Klein’s blog: the full bill, a short summary & a list of stuff that happens right away.

In the (I guess) better-late-than-never department, Michael Moore says, “Democrats’ healthcare bill is giveaway to insurance industry

 


Maybe the tests DO give too many false positives. But, wouldn’t it be better to push for more accurate tests than to tell women to stop getting them? Or to tell women to keep getting them but, don’t take them too seriously? Or wait — don’t take the Panel’s advice too seriously. . . Nevermind.

 

 


As demand rises, libraries shut their doors:

 

The recession has swept in a wave of out-of-work residents looking for online job listings, Internet access to fill out unemployment applications, and help with their resumes.

“You can’t keep a DVD on the shelf,” she said. “Families can’t afford Netflix. And many people don’t buy their books anymore — they use the library.”

Kim Bui-Burton, president of the California Library Assn., described conditions as “extraordinarily difficult.” Never lavishly funded, libraries started to falter with last year’s credit and mortgage disasters. Now, she said, they are being battered by deep state and local cuts.

In Ventura, the H.P. Wright Library is the city’s most heavily used branch, Griffin said. But it’s one-third the size of the main library downtown and the county can no longer afford to keep it open.

 


Huge (32% !!!) rise in fees for University of California students sparks rage:

 

Students, furious at the increase that will bring their yearly fees above $10,000 for the first time, rushed the UCLA building where the regents were meeting, throwing food, sticks and vinegar-soaked red bandannas meant to look like blood.

UC police arrested 14 people for disrupting the meeting and resisting arrest.

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  1. I work for an academic library and library hours have been cut (hence mine also). In the evenings I basically have to kick out a full house of students. I feel badly doing so but this is how the administration chose to cut costs.

    • It really is a shame that institutions of higher education and community libraries are cut back so much in difficult economic times. We are also looking at considerably larger student/teacher ratios and cut backs in programming in K-12 in our community. Oh, by the way, the Football and Basketball coaches did receive raises this year. So, when you have priorities, you CAN make difficult reallocation decisions for public funds in short budgets.

      • We are raising tuition, do not have enough housing for our undergraduates … and are building a multi, multimillion dollar “academic support” PALACE. Open to athletes only.

        • “Revenue-generating” sport atheletes only – I hope! Of course, when you look in to the big money college sports, they actually drain the budget not contribute to it. But hey, bread and circuses worked for the Romans. Didn’t they? While Rome burned, Nero….

      • At my high school they’re prioritizing sports and music and cutting the math and English specialists they hired to raise MCAS scores. I’m certainly not anti-sports and music, but anyone who doesn’t pass MCAS can’t graduate.

        • Maybe “they” are counting on the cheaper labor that nongraduates are left to offer to compete head-to-head on price with the developing world…. U.S. does need more exports. Certainly poorly educated and hence poor folks also tend to buy less of those pricey imports. Maybe it is a whole economic “theory” that can drive policy — just like the supply side curve. I’m still laughing about how many bought that one.

          • Yes, that and the fact that parents who can afford musical instruments and band trips and football equiptment etc. can also afford to take time off from work to lobby the school committee AND pay for private MCAS tutoring for their kids. 🙂 Win-win for everybody who “matters.”

    • From Fresno, California State Uni homepage

      Dean of Library Services Peter McDonald made the announcement Wednesday, Nov. 18, that one-time federal stimulus money will make it possible to open the library from 1 to 5 p.m. Nov. 21, Dec. 5 and 12.
      snip
      The money for this initiative is part of the federal stimulus package that helped Fresno State restore 200 spring 2010 class sections eliminated earlier by budget cuts.

      They were worried about admitting students this fall. I don’t know how accurate the SFgate article is when it asserts that:

      Although the protesters emphasized the impact the new fees would have on the neediest students, about 30 percent of undergraduates will pay no fees at all. That’s because the university’s Blue and Gold program covers tuition, though not living expenses, for students from families earning up to $70,000 – just raised from $60,000.

  2. I have 2 constant prayers…
    please oh please let this POC legislation die an ignominious death and please oh please have Teh Precious bow out in 2012 so we have a shot at fixing this sorry state of affairs.

  3. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8363297.stm

    I thought this was interesting. Look at the difference in the number on troops deployed around the world.
    It looks like we are draining our wealth while others do not.

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    • Military Industrial complex welfare. Keeping troops and equipment deployed where they are no longer needed in a post cold war world.

      Another thought, how far woud all those Wall Street bonuses the Democrat Party “forgot” to ban in the bail out legislation have gone toward keeping libraries open?

      Donna Brazile’s new and improved Democrat Party (you know, the one that doesn’t need us) isn’t the party of FDR, LBJ or WJC.

  4. I’m proud that my little adopted community in Ohio, whose library had cut back staff and hours, passed a bond issue to finance it. In fact, voters passed all the bond issues, for library, for building a new middle school, for continued financing of a mental health/rehabilitation facility, and on the state level, a bonus for Iraq and Afghanistan veterans.

    How about this? Obama appoints Dana Perino to broadcasting board: http://blogs.mcclatchydc.com/washington/2009/11/obama-names-dana-perino-to-govermment-board.html

    If he was smart he would have appointed Bill Moyers (who, after all, supported him) to get him off the air!

  5. In China, Obama leaves more questions than he takes
    By Dana Millbank

    Listening to President Obama and his Chinese counterpart this week, it was hard to tell who was Hu.

    They would not take questions. In lieu of this rite of freedom, the two leaders exchanged platitudes.

    Members of the White House press corps traveling with Obama were baffled: Even Bush, the great unilateralist, had been more willing to mix it up with journalists, foreign and domestic, while abroad. After reporters complained to White House press secretary Robert Gibbs about a lack of communication, he issued a 61-word written statement worthy of the Politburo Standing Committee: “President Obama’s visit to China has demonstrated the depth and breadth of the global and other challenges where US-China cooperation is critical,” it began.

    Other elements of Obama’s Asian trip — the bow to the Japanese emperor, the handshake with the Burmese prime minister — have earned more attention, but Obama’s reluctance to be challenged in public is more problematic. It sends a message to the world that contradicts his claim to the Chinese students that he is a better leader because he is forced “to hear opinions that I don’t want to hear.”

    In that sense, Obama’s Asian tour continued a pattern he has developed at home. He had five full news conferences at the White House during his first six months in office but has had none since July. That puts him roughly on par with Bush, who had four full White House news conferences in the same time. For Obama, who pledged to bring a new level of transparency to the presidency, that’s hardly an impressive record.

    It’s easy to see why Obama prefers this format [1:1 short interviews]. Consider some of the questions that have arisen during these sessions:

    “You picked the Tar Heels to win the national championship, didn’t you?

    “You are very, very famous as a very cool man, but what don’t you like about yourself?”

    “Golf. What does it do for you?”

    “How do you relax?”

    “Have the girls had kids over after school?”

    “Do you get to read them a story at night, tuck them in bed?”

    With questions like these, even President Hu might start talking to the press.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/11/18/AR2009111802924.html

    • That Dana person is one of the reasons we are where we are today.
      Go read Bob Somerby at http://www.dailyhowler.com.
      George Bush and the republican party may have single-handedly brought the United States to it’s knees but it’s because the print and broadcast media decided to attack Al Gore instead of report news.
      Do you think that Al would have spent the summer clearing brush after ignoring warning signs that al Qaeda was going to launch a massive attack?

      • Somerby is in the dog house around here for agreeing with Stupak and his sepsis bill. But no one is perfect and Somerby is by far the best media critic we have.

        • If Somerby is a religious wing nut like Stupak — then that doesn’t say much for his spin on anything — because he has a hidden agenda.

          Somerby is aiding the enemy.

      • That’s why it’s interesting. Millbank is just now realizing O’s team are propaganda control freaks?

  6. Showman in Chief:

    White House aides: No Afghan decision before Thanksgiving

    Obama arrived on the base 3:19 p.m. local time (1 a.m. Eastern Standard Time), and received a rousing welcome from 1,500 troops in camouflage uniforms, many holding cameras or pointing cell phones to snap pictures.

    “You guys make a pretty good photo op,” the president said.

    He got a huge cheer when he told them he was increasing military pay. “That’s what you call an applause line,” he said, before boarding his jet and taking off at 4:11 p.m.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/11/19/AR2009111900904_pf.html

    • It’s comments like that that confirm to me this con man is just rubbing it in our faces

    • Obvious he was there to get a photo-op and an applause line for himself.

      Stayed there exactly 52minutes, between landing and taking off.

    • The extent of Obama’s egotism is boundless.

      And he doesn’t even attempt to hide it.

  7. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8367633.stm

    A another view of Sarah Palin. No wonder the dems are afraid.
    Naturally this view comes from outside the USA.

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    • Perhaps the tired late night talk show hack comedians will lay off the Clinton family to attack Sarah Palin.
      The more vitrol spewed by the blo-tards at MSNBO toward her the more it demonstrates their fear.

      • Oh, no, they can do both. Attacking the family of two different women aren’t even opposing actions. It only requires a tiny portion of a tiny brain to make it happen; which is good, because, let’s be honest, they haven’t got much brain activity to spare.

  8. http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1940558,00.html?xid=rss-world&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+time%2Fworld+%28TIME%3A+Top+World+Stories%29

    Maybe the msm is thinking about getting up off their knees and looking at the real world.
    Backtrack does not seem to understand that many mistake kindness for weakness and he is not doing any good for this country.

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  9. Katibird – I just tried to download your link to the bill and it wouldn’t open. Since it’s a pdf, I should be able to.

  10. http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2009/11/19/financial/f051656S98.DTL&feed=rss.business

    This article about the loss of jobs in communication over the last nine years interested me because how many of this job loss caused the lack of investigative journalism?
    Also the first comment while not politically correct does make some good points on why some big cities are having financial problems. Both NY and Sf are gateways to the country and immigrants came through them to begin new lives in this country.

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    • I’m not sure the whole immigrant thing has a lot to do with it. Texas is a border state and gets tons of immigrants, but we have a budget surplus, and have accomplished that with ZERO state taxes.

      We also, as of 2008, have more Fortune 500 companies than any other state in the union. Businesses and industries are flocking here, TONS coming from California, because we don’t tax and fee and regulate them to death. Texas is feeling the hurt, but not nearly so badly as elsewhere.

      NY and CA have budget probems because of their own bad decisions, not because they have immigrants.

      • what I got out of his comments was that the higher paid people were leaving the city and lower paid people were moving in. This affects the tax revenue and expenses of any city.
        I agree with you that California has made bad economic decisions and it does not look like they will get any common sense in the near future.

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  11. http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/sns-ap-us-katrina-flood-lawsuit,0,6488614.story?track=rss&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+chicagotribune%2Fnews%2Fnationworld+%28Chicago+Tribune+news+-+Nation%2FWorld%29

    Dak
    Maybe this will help some of your neighbors in New Orleans.
    Since it was not an “act of God” the insurance companies will have to pay and the federal government will have to do more.
    Maybe some who had to leave will be able to come home.

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  12. http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/chi-tc-biz-brf-prices-1118-1119-nov19,0,5515334.story?track=rss&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+chicagotribune%2Fbusiness+%28Chicago+Tribune+news+-+Business%29

    How long before the obots figure it out.
    gee I lost my job, can look for another one because I can’t use the computer in the library, its closed, my car broke down and I can’t get parts because cash for clunkers trashed all the cars that would have used for parts. My house is going to be foreclosed because my tax money went for bonuses. I may have to go to a food bank because of the increase in the price of food. If I get sick the new insurance plan will not pay for the services I need.
    I VOTED FOR HIM AND GOT SCREWED WITHOUT BEING KISSED.

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  13. http://www.chicagotribune.com/health/la-na-health-pharma17-2009nov17,0,7035397.story?obref=obnetwork

    per rahm emanuel to the senate
    “don’t antagonize the deep pocket drug industry”

    Everyday I get more and more disgusted with this bunch. 2012 can not come soon enough.

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  14. http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/politics/sns-ap-us-fort-hood-investigation,0,314436.story

    Will we have two independent investigations with the truth coming out and a major overhaul to see that this does not happen again or will there be a coverup?

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  15. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/8367566.stm

    Dak
    will this be good or bad? On the surface it sounds good but what are the unintended consequences? Don’t we have anti-trust laws now that are supposed to do the same thing?
    It is pretty bad when my first reaction to some thing the dems introduce is we have to look beneath the surface.

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  16. Dr. Bernadine healy on the new mammogram recommendations:

    I think this video is worth watching. I don’t like Glenn Beck at all, but I have great respect for Dr. Bernadine’s opinion. As you all may already know, Dr. Bernadine Healy, M.D. is a former head of the National Institutes of Health (NIH). She is a Harvard and Johns Hopkins educated physician and cardiologist and She has been a professor of medicine at Johns Hopkins, professor and dean of the College of Medicine and Public Health at the Ohio State University, and served as president of the American Red Cross.

    • Watch for a presidential run out of Glen Beck. Seems like anyone with a “Plan for America” is getting ready to run for something.

  17. OT, but another example of how It’s Never His Fault, this time by Cornel West, out visiting in Seattle:

    “….at the political level, I’m just profoundly disappointed that Barack Obama would choose, not just Summers, but a whole economic team that has absolutely no record whatsoever of being concerned about poor people or working people.”

    West planned to urge Seattle progressives to make Obama accountable to poor and working people.

    http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/text/2010303134.html

    So we Seattle progressives are supposed to take care of it?

    • Prof. West plans to “make Obama accountable to poor and working people.”

      Good luck with that.

    • I don’t know or care much about Cornel West, honestly. But did you notice how awash in Obamania Seattle was? Local progressives elected the dude, I hope they choke on him. I’m surprised how slow Seattlites have been to figure out how useless he is. The kool aid is still going strong here.

      • Unfortunately, Seattle Obots are not likely to be suffering all that much no matter what Obama does.

        It is the poor and working class all over the country who are hurting.

        • I know more than a few Seattle Obots who are waking up … slowly. Although some still won’t talk to me!

          Seattle does have poor and working class people. The average income is pulled high by a few Microsofties but looking at the median tells a more accurate story.

  18. I really like Orac’s opinions on the subject of mammograms, detection, etc. He is a breast surgeon and firmly falls into my reasoning that the shades of grey in what early detection of cancers mean are too important to ignore.

    In this society of simple sound bite messages, I hope that people drown out the shrill and try and understand the details….that’s what we want as political followers, that’s what we want when it comes to screening. Essentially, “early detection is always good” is a soundbite similar to “hope and change”. You have to know what the issues are to understand it.

    Anyway, here’s an Orac article I like:

    Link

  19. Did you know that you can’t call yourself a black man if you vote against healthcare? So says the Right, Rev Jesse Jackson.

    What if you’re a woman?

    He’s so irrelevant.

    • What an idiot. How on earth does race inter in to this bill? Oh wait, race is in everything now in this pseudo, empty, soulless, poor excuse for a party.

  20. This is a hoot. Are they going to accuse Conyers of being rac*st too?

    Dem Conyers: “I’m Getting Tired Of Saving Obama’s Can”

    Rep. John Conyers (D-MI) says Obama is “bowing down” to Republicans. He said he is “getting tired of saving Obama’s can in the White House.”

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2009/11/19/dem_conyers_im_getting_tired_of_saving_obamas_can.html

    • Great audio by Conyers.

      Seems like the only friends Obama has left are in the insurance / pharma industry and on Wall Street.

    • And if he hadn’t saved Obama’s can by being up to your neck in depriving your citizens of their votes, we wouldn’t be up to our necks in this mess.

      There needs to be a damn Congressional support group for members who refuse to take responsibility for their own actions and try to blame everything on Obama. He’s not a cult leader and he didn’t make any of you stupid or petty.

    • Hey, FU Conyers, this is your doing. Don’t whine now. Take some responsibility.

  21. http://www.dailytopseven.com/readmore.php?newsid=ODQ4

    didn’t the PUMAS already know this.

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    • But the study only credits women’s intelligence when it comes to telling their husbands to lay off the pork rinds, honey.

  22. What about Bernie Sanders? Last week he was threatening to filibuster, think he’ll cave?

    • It would be nice if he kept his backbone. But the fact that he’s still a Democrat after all of this tells me he’ll likely cave. If you’re a real liberal, you’re no longer a Democrat in my opinion. So by modus tollens, he’s not a real liberal. Ha, always wanted to use that in a sentence.

      • He’s an Independent and calls himself a “socialist.” He caucuses with the Dems

        • Oh, that’s different, never mind then. 🙂 (in the words of emily latilla)

          • Yeah, but he does end up voting with the Dems much of the time, so the state of his backbone is still in question. I’d like to think he’d hold out when they give up everything to placate Lieberman and Snowe–but does he have enough backbone to be the last person standing? We’ll see.

  23. I knew they’d go there-

    Matthews: Palin Crowds Think In Terms Of “White Vs. Other People”

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2009/11/19/matthews_palin_crowds_think_in_terms_of_white_vs_other_people.html

    • *yawn* Lod, I’ve been called a raycist so many times in the past 2 years, I don’t even blink at it anymore. And methinks the rest of the public feels the same.

      Get a new schtick, Tweety – that one is so last year, and the public is bored with it, as evidenced by your ratings.

    • When they run out of other excuses, they always go back there. It’s as predictable as the sun rising in the East.

    • the more they protest, the stronger she becomes.

  24. Riverdaughter has a totally kickass comment up over at Reclusive Leftist.

  25. What the f@$Ek is this Obama logo creep that headlines the list of “what will happen now”. I think this country has a logo and it is time that Ozero started to use it.

    • That burns me up, too. We HAVE a fucking presidential seal, and a flag, and numerous symbols that MEAN something to the American people. He wants to spit on our history and remake us into the United States of Obama. It alternately creeps me out and infuriates me.

  26. http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/nov/19/health-bill-could-get-34-hour-reading-senate/

    The lobbyists wrote it, congress did not read it, They want a quick vote on it. it is NOT too much to ask the take 34 hours and have the bill read on the floor. Let everyone know just what is in it and who voted for it.

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  27. Since mammograms have become such a big topic lately, I thought y’all would be interested in a site I found recently: The Breast Cancer Site

    If you go here and click the pink button everyday, money is sent to pay for free mammograms for underprivileged women. I’ve been trying to get as much attention to the site is possible through facebook and twitter, but it doesn’t hurt for more people to know. It’s just a click; it’s free and you can even get a daily email reminder so you don’t forget. It’s so little effort for a good cause.

    • Cool, just did it. Painless and free. Do it every day.

    • thank you for the link. I just clicked and also e-mailed the link to some friends.

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