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Your Breakfast Read, Sunday Edition

Edward M. Kennedy: The Final Journey

“Sail on my friend, sail on.” John Kerry
Kennedy laid to rest at Arlington, beside brothers

Sen. Edward M. Kennedy was laid to rest Saturday night alongside slain brothers John and Robert on hallowed ground at Arlington National Cemetery, celebrated for “the dream he kept alive” across the decades since their deaths.

A final farewell

An array of the nation’s most powerful politicians, Kennedy family members, and diverse celebrities crammed into pews at the Basilica of Our Lady of Perpetual Help in Mission Hill for a two-hour service that was steeped in family lore and Catholic ritual. It began late but simply, with a procession of priests bearing incense and military officers carrying the casket down the center aisle of a silent church to the barely audible commands of “Hup. Hup. Hup.’’

Edward M. Kennedy Jr. left the mourners spellbound when he described a snowy day shortly after he lost a leg to bone cancer when he was 12 years old. His father urged him to coast down a hill in front of their house, but the son, frustrated because he could not climb the icy driveway with one leg, declared he was giving up.

A personal plea to the chattering class: I beg of thee, stop saying Ted Kennedy passed to “Liberal Torch” to Obama. If there is one thing Obama has proven so far, it is the fact that HE IS NOT a Liberal. Stop pushing those delusions unto the public.

Op-ed Columns

Finally! The NY Times editorial board reminds people who actually has the majority in the Senate. The discussion so far has been about what the Dems should give up to get a “bipartisan” health care legislation passed. The most bizarre part of the equation is that Republicans are NOT going to accept ANY legislation reforming the system, not even those who sit in the “bipartisan” committee.
Majority Rule on Health Care Reform

If the Democrats want to enact health care reform this year, they appear to have little choice but to adopt a high-risk, go-it-alone, majority-rules strategy.

We say this with considerable regret because a bipartisan compromise would be the surest way to achieve comprehensive reforms with broad public support. But the ideological split between the parties is too wide — and the animosities too deep — for that to be possible.

In recent weeks, it has become inescapably clear that Republicans are unlikely to vote for substantial reform this year. Many seem bent on scuttling President Obama’s signature domestic issue no matter the cost.

Joe Stiglitz does a spectacular job about the bad and the good of our budget deficit. (Come on! What would you expect from the world’s Nr. 1 economist?)
Thanks to the Deficit, the Buck Stops Here

When financial crises strike, economic growth declines and living standards drop, resulting in lower tax revenues and greater need for government assistance — all of which leads to higher fiscal imbalances.

What really matters is not the size of the deficit but how we’re spending our money. If we expand our debt in order to make high-return, productive investments, the economy can become stronger than if we slash expenditures.

Nick Kristof asks how do those who fear death panels feel about a health care system that breaks apart families?
Until Medical Bills Do Us Part

The existing system doesn’t just break up families, it also costs lives. A 2004 study by the Institute of Medicine, a branch of the National Academy of Sciences, found that lack of health insurance causes 18,000 unnecessary deaths a year. That’s one person slipping through the cracks and dying every half an hour.

In short, it’s a good bet that our existing dysfunctional health system knocks off far more people than an army of “death panels” could — even if they existed, worked 24/7 and got around in a fleet of black helicopters.

Will there ever be another Senator proud to call himself a “Liberal”?
Kennedy’s death leaves a void that won’t be filled

Edward M. Kennedy may have been the Senate’s last liberal.

Oh, there are others in the Senate who would support the same policies – universal health care and expanded civil rights and a higher minimum wage. Sheldon Whitehouse of Rhode Island and Barbara Boxer of California and Bernie Sanders of Vermont, a self-described socialist, can usually be counted on to uphold the standards of the left.

But most on the left have abandoned the word “liberal” for the term “progressive,” an effort to escape the perverted and seamy notions that rightwing talk show hosts have attached to the L word. Kennedy, though, was always a proud liberal.

Sen. Ross Feingold thinks we should get the hell out of Afghanistan for our own safety.
The Road Home From Afghanistan

Why a flexible timetable to withdraw U.S. troops will best advance our national security interests.


Seldom has a Democrat been so much maligned by his own like Bill Clinton has (only his wife got it worse). Nevertheless he keeps soldiering on for the party.
Clinton and Gore reunite in Tennessee

Two old friends, fresh from a day of mourning in rainy Boston, came south Saturday night to pledge to a roomful of roaring Tennessee Democrats that Ted Kennedy’s dream indeed will never die.

Al Gore and Bill Clinton – ghosts of Democratic victories past who are increasingly showing up to buck up the faithful as President Obama goes through his first real trials in office – were the star guests at the Tennessee Democratic Party’s annual Jackson Day dinner.

I always have to guffaw when I see Republicans decrying any type of cuts in the safety net.
Why The GOP Gunning For Grandma

It’s not preposterous to imagine laws that would try to save money by encouraging the inconvenient elderly to make an early exit. After all, that’s been the Republican policy for years.

It was Grassley himself who devised the “Throw Mama From the Train” provision of the GOP’s 2001 tax cut. The estate-tax revision he championed will reduce the estate tax to zero next year. But when it expires at year’s end, the tax will jump back up to its previous level of 55 percent. Grassley’s exploding tax break has an entirely foreseeable, if unintended, consequence: it incentivizes ailing, elderly rich people to end their lives—paging Dr. Kevorkian—before midnight on Dec. 31, 2010. It also gives their children an incentive to sign DNR orders and switch off respirators in time for the deadline. This would be a great plot for a P. D. James novel if it weren’t an actual piece of legislation.

How much more abominable could the MSM get? Is there any amount of shame to pour on the Washington Post? Glenn Greenwald dissects what’s behind the WaPo’s glorification of torture. (Who wrote that piece? Dick Cheney?)
The Washington Post’s Cheney-ite defense of torture

If anyone ever tells you that they don’t understand what is meant by “stenography journalism” — or ever insists that America is plagued by a Liberal Media — you can show them this article from today’s Washington Post and, by itself, it should clear up everything. The article’s headline is “How a Detainee Became An Asset — Sept. 11 Plotter Cooperated After Waterboarding” — though an equally appropriate headline would be: “The Joys and Virtues of Torture — how Dick Cheney Kept Us Safe.” I defy anyone to identify a single way the article would be different if The Post had let Dick Cheney write it himself.

Deja vu all over again.
U.S. Sets Metrics to Assess War Success

The White House has assembled a list of about 50 measurements to gauge progress in Afghanistan and Pakistan as it tries to calm rising public and congressional anxiety about its war strategy.

Economy Watch

Is Bernake dropping the ball on “too-big-to-fail”?
Lecturing Bernanke: The Fed chairman’s old teacher worries that Washington isn’t fixing the too-big-to-fail issue.

Economist Stanley Fischer was Ben Bernanke’s thesis advisor at MIT; he knew better than most that his former student had the right stuff to avert a depression. Bernanke was an “expert” at injecting liquidity into a sinking economy, Fischer said last year before the markets took their frightening plunge. Fischer had no doubt that Ben would do what it took (Ben did, earning himself a second term as Fed chairman this week). But serious questions remain in the minds of Fischer and other critics whether the most serious problem of the financial crisis—the too-big-to-fail issue—is proving too big for Bernanke and Washington’s power elites to handle.

Is this another sign that things are getting better or just that things are “getting worse, more slowly”?
Payrolls Probably Declined at Slower Pace: U.S. Economy Preview

Employers in the U.S. probably cut jobs in August at a slower pace and manufacturing grew for the first time in more than a year, adding to evidence the worst recession since the 1930s is ending, economists said before reports this week.

Payrolls fell by 230,000 workers, the smallest decline in a year, according to the median of 65 estimates in a Bloomberg News survey ahead of a Sept. 4 Labor Department report. Figures from a private group of purchasing managers on Sept. 1 may show the first expansion at factories since January 2008.

Rep. Frank eyes Fed audit, emergency lending curbs

Rep. Barney Frank, the chairman of the U.S. House of Representatives Financial Services Committee, said he plans legislation to restrict the Federal Reserve’s emergency lending powers and subject the central bank to a “complete audit.”

Around The Nation

Looking for clues to solve a horrible mystery.
Inside Jaycee Lee Dugard’s secret garden

New evidence poses further questions about the captivity of girl taken from her home in Antioch, east of San Francisco

What a load of horse manure! If this creepy creature really wanted help, why didn’t he even walk into a hospital or talk to a professional. Instead he kept raping his hostage. And his wife “felt he was on the road to recovery”?
Garrido tried to reach out for help, business acquaintance says

The owner of an auto dismantling business frequented by Phillip Garrido said the man accused of kidnapping, raping and fathering two children with Jaycee Dugard was trying to understand schizophrenia and his struggles with sexual desires.

Cheyvonne Molino, who owns JM Enterprizes on Willow Pass Road with her husband, said she is not defending Garrido, but said Garrido felt he was on the road to recovery from his struggles.

This good Doctor is already getting death threats. Will he be better protected than the others before him?
Nebraska doctor takes up Tiller’s mission to keep late-term abortions available

“Do I think I’ll get shot? I hope not,” the physician says. “Is it a possibility? I think it’s a very, very good possibility.”

Meantime, the potbellied military retiree, grandfather and horse lover carries on the same steady abortion business that has defined, dominated and directed his life for the last two decades.

Now he stands at the most thinly manned front line in America’s abortion wars — almost daring the opposition to stop him from performing late-term abortions.

Unstoppable fire threatens 10,000 homes

At least 1,000 homes are ordered evacuated ahead of a relentless fire fueled by hot weather and dense brush. More than 21,000 acres have burned.

Around The World

Oh the shame!
Lockerbie bomber ‘set free for oil’

Gordon Brown’s government made the decision after discussions between Libya and BP over a multi-million-pound oil exploration deal had hit difficulties. These were resolved soon afterwards.

The letters were sent two years ago by Jack Straw, the justice secretary, to Kenny MacAskill, his counterpart in Scotland, who has been widely criticised for taking the formal decision to permit Megrahi’s release.

The correspondence makes it plain that the key decision to include Megrahi in a deal with Libya to allow prisoners to return home was, in fact, taken in London for British national interests.

Body parts for sale.
42.90 Euros Per Arm: Inside a Creepy Global Body Parts Business

The German company Tutogen’s business in body parts is as secretive as it is lucrative. It extracts bones from corpses in Ukraine to manufacture medical products, as part of a global market worth billions that is centered in the United States.

When will heinous crimes against homosexuals stop?
South African lesbians live in fear of ‘corrective rape’

In the antiseptic setting of a modern courthouse in a town near Johannesburg, the life and death of a young sports star is being dissected. She was no ordinary young woman. An outstanding footballer, she had captained her country and was hoping to be the first female to referee at a World Cup. But her brutal death, and the apparent motive for it, is all too ordinary here. For Eudy Simelane was a lesbian, and this, say campaigners, was why she was raped and savagely murdered.

This is the land of “corrective rape”. Despite South Africa having one of the most enlightened constitutions in the world, traditional views about sexuality still run deep. In many quarters, especially male ones, lesbians are resented, perhaps even feared. And to some young men the remedy is simple: rape.


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  1. Thanks, mablue, for the wide spectrum of news!

    re: Nebraska doctor takes up Tiller’s mission to keep late-term abortions available

    “He was a hero to me,” Carhart said of Tiller. “We shared a lot.”

    They’re both heroes to me.

    • When I ran for the Nebraska Unicameral, I was privileged to have both of those doctors as well as a third women’s health provider in Nebraska support me and work for my candidacy. Dr. Carhart had a stable full of very lovely horses that some one burned to the ground, killing many of them. You’d never believe some of the stories these doctors had to tell.

      My favorite one was that one of them had given an abortion (in the middle of the night) to one of the daughters of the women of theCatholic and Christian fascist movement in Nebraska who picketed him and harassed him almost daily and he could never say a thing about it except anecdotally because of privacy ethics. She was also a great Catholic parishioner and never failed to remind any one of it, yet her identity and that of her daughter are probably even kept safe from the parish priest too. These guys face harassment and danger daily to do procedures that are mischaracterized by Media Misinformants and Catholic Fascists like Bill O”Reilly.

    • Me, too. There was a great piece on Carhart in Newsweek 2 weeks ago. An inside look at his work and his motivation for continuing it in spite of the danger. I recommend it highly. Hopefully, copies are still available or it’s still on their website.

  2. Didn’t get to read the news yet, or anything serious for that matter. But I did find in my tweets this Don Draper guide to dating – and since Mad Men is tonight…

  3. Thanks, mablue – good mix of what’s happening!

  4. mablue, as always, your news round-up is greatly appreciated by those of us who are early risers. Thanks.

  5. I find it interesting that there is a divide about “progressive” and “liberal” political labels. The progressive movement in WI is certainly an honorable one and gave us some real tools for governmental change. I am sure Russ Feingold does not disparage his own progressive roots. Ballot initiatives in CA grow from that movement and it was progressive politics that broke the power of the trusts, gave us the beginnings of government oversight and regulation of our food supply and expansion of the voting franchise. Perhaps it is the fact that the progressive movement has bi-partisan roots—T. Roosevelt was a major progressive and that progressive thinking was a significant thread in the thinking of Franklin and Eleanor Roosevelt—probably Eleanor was more of a progressive thinker and doer than Franklin was.

    I don’t think we can renew the reputation of ” liberal” by disowning “progressive”.

  6. Thanks mablue for the link on the CA fires. That was an actual piece of news reporting and a powerful picture of people and how they are blind to their own desires for living space that endangers and ultimately overwhelms a fragile environment. The degradation of the Angeles National Forest by Angelenos in search of living space is second only to the ravaging of the Owens Valley by Angelenos in search of water.

  7. Sen. Ross Feingold thinks we should get the hell out of Afghanistan for our own safety.

    Lord yes, but then the heroin might stop flowing again and we can’t have that.. We are there in part to ensure it’s flow.

    Looking for clues to solve a horrible mystery.
    Inside Jaycee Lee Dugard’s secret garden

    What mystery? Somehow the fact he just liked raping is never considered. I can’t believe I’m supposed to shed a tear for this monster ….excuse me but that’s another rape called : mind fucking

  8. I forgot my manners! Thank you, mablue for your great round up!

  9. Quote from an article at Huffington Post by Melissa Lafsky discussing Kennedy’s legacy:

    “What Mary Jo (Kopeckne) would have thought about arguably being a catalyst for the most successful Senate career in history……Who knows—MAYBE SHE’D FEEL IT WAS WORTH IT.”

    I don’t know, Dak. If this is the best of the “liberal” movement, if this is what gets published on a mainstream A-list blog as “acceptable” discourse defending Teddy Kennedy, with very little condemnation by its readers, it is no wonder that folks in Peoria want no part of same.

    To borrow a phrase, I find this quote MIND FUCKING.

    Have a nice day.

    • I never really considered Teddy Kennedy a liberal in his early days to be honest.

      Remember, Robert Kennedy got his start in politics by joining Joseph McCarthy and his hunt for communists which he called the overwhelming priority of the day. That’s hardly liberal roots.

      • also remember the dixiecrats like Strom Thurmond who still holds the record for filibustering in his filibustering of the Civil Rights Act. He started out a democrat right? Byrd belonged to the KKK.

        A lot of the old time democrats were not all from FDR’s side of the party,especially those from the south and those from the east coast establishment. Al Smith was basically the Wall Street Candidate then. Old Joe Kennedy supported FDR, true, but even he had his run-ins with FDR especially because Kennedy really hated communists and communism.

    • I find that quote to be offensive and if I was a relative of Mary Jo I’d write my own article about my family’s suffering to prove that person wrong. For the record, no, I would not find my death to be “worth it” if the person responsible later became an important person in American history. One has nothing to do with the other.

  10. it’s like the diggest idea … … anyway thanks for this reference. Nice to know you 🙂

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    • I agree with you. I also think that “Kennedy’s Letter to the Pope” was a plea for the pope to make sure that God had all of the facts about the good that Kennedy had done when judgment day came for him. Saying that MaryJo would have given up her life so that Kennedy could have his career is sick. I wish I believed in hell.

    • so, I take it you don’t believe in the christian idea of redemption?

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        • It was a completely stupid comment and stands as such. Why would I waste my time, let alone brain synapses, on something so trivial and nonsensical? It’s not like it’s going to change the course of history or anything.

          Every silly public funeral has its share of forgotten sins. The Reagan spectacular as well as the Nixon one stood out there to me as such. We didn’t get any one to talk about Irancontra or even much about Watergate.

          Funerals are based on primitive superstitions. Why expect anything intelligent from them?

      • Let the dead, including Mary Jo Kopechne and Ted Kennedy, rest in peace. I believe in atonement, and I think Kennedy eventually found redemption through his work and his family.

    • I think it’s sad that you don’t think people can redeem themselves after tragic errors & mistakes.

      Frankly, I’m creeped out by comments like this and I would delete it if this was my thread.

    • admin: what did I say that was so bad?

      • I was getting ready to delete the whole line of comments starting with your bizarre statement. But, some of the replies have enough substance that I’m letting them stand.

        If you want to talk about the subject of your comment then you can start your own blog.

        • Thanks KB and Kat.

          i just got home and I forgot to leave a note that I would be gone for quite some time. Usually our commenters show some decorum and I blindly trusted them.

          I just can imagine what the deleted comments looked like.

  12. I appreciate Ted Kennedy’s Senate career. I appreciate that his legacy is colored by good work, family tragedy, a lifestyle reputation that was misogynist at times, a family life that had the full range of good and bad. I do not close my eyes to the Kopechne affair or whether it was or was not a miscarriage of justice fueled by family wealth. If Ted Kennedy proudly held the liberal banner and stayed to a liberal path, he is also not the definition of the essence of liberal. He is finally a human being. We need to stop this ridiculous idea that celebrity politicians are legends in their own time and have some heroic stature that is all good and great. They are people and we and the MSM need to get some perspective.

    But it is not just the wealthy who manage to evade the full measure of justice. The Dugard case that rears its ugly head in the news background shows a man who escaped justice to commit a greater, incomprehensibly more sinister crime than his original crime. Clearly it was not family money that fueled his escape from justice.

    • So, does that excuse Arianna Huffington for publishing such an offensive article?

      • If it offends you don’t read it … drop it. Because I’m about to pull out the nuclear moderator option on you and every one will tell you I’m the most tolerant of every one with that button.

      • No, my framework does not give Arianna a pass or a go ahead. I am not much for censorship even when I don’t like what is expressed. But I think there is much more to Ted Kennedy than a rich bad boy who “got by” and less than “a man for all seasons and all time”. He is neither a national hero or rogue villain and I am not sure that the universe let him go home free and easy.

      • I don’t got to HuffPo because they are mostly off base as far as I’m concerned – way out there.

        I don’t understand why you think we agree with HuffPo simply because we couldn’t be bothered to respond.

        As Dak said if you don’t agree with their philosophy – don’t go there.

        • For some bizarre reason some people spend their time scouring the blogosphere for things they think other people should get upset about.

          Then they go to those other people and demand to know why they aren’t upset yet.

          It’s the Moral Scold Pop Quiz Club.

        • Agreed. I didn’t even read the article with the quote Mary posted. That one quote was enough for me to dismiss the article entirely. Commenting at the site won’t make things better because I’m pretty sure that the majority of HuffPo readers agree with the article.

          • No no!

            You must rush over there and post an angry response in order to prove yourself worthy. Then you must post a long rant here as well.

            When the Moral Scolds are satisfied that this blog is worthy they will move on to other blogs to test them too.

            “I didn’t get a ‘harumph’ outta that guy!”

  13. I not only believe in the concept of redemption, I believe that it is not a simple path that necessarily follows a straight and true line. We have plenty of examples of men and women who led virtuous lives and did little for the greater good of all; we have plenty of examples of people who did much for the greater good of all and had rather scandalous private lives; and we have those who appear to do no good period. I am not sure how God/ess sums up the score but I know where I stand.

    • I can only correct my own actions and my life is full of need for that so I really can’t say I obsess on the road to redemption for others. I only have control over my one. I will say that I think one exists for every one and I appreciate those who take it.

      • This is so fundamentally true—we can each only keep our own peace.

      • I guess that for those of us who were adults and lived in MA at the time of the “Chappaquidick Affair”, it’s harder for us to forgive and forget. Giving a man a pass for a major lapse in moral judgment because his family had already seen so much tragedy seemed to be what was expected of us. If you weren’t ready to forget that a young woman lost her life, you were pretty much told to shut up.

        • Once for all:

          How are we supposed to eulogize Ted Kennedy?

          “He was a monster beyond any type of redemption”?

          If that makes you happy there you have it.

          • Sheesh, even Dick Cheney loves his gay daughter and wants her civil rights. I argue he’s a monster on the next thread, but there is always a glint of redemption in every man. I am not the multiversal accountant who catalogs the percentage redeemed, however.

          • He doesn’t have to be eulogized as a monster. Just stop it with the “Saint Ted”. Put the guy in the ground, say a few kind words, and get on with it. Pretend it’s Mark Sanford or John Edwards you’re burying. And remember that they haven’t left anyone to die a miserable death yet. People all over the country have made fun of the people of MA for sending this man back to senate time and time again, but it seems like people who live outside of MA worship this man more than most of us do.

          • Oh please, it’s a politician’s funeral, they ALWAYS do that kinda crap … think of the Reagan and Nixon Funerals. You’d think the entire nation had forgiven Nixon for Watergate during that entire spectacle and he was the patron saint of foreign relations coups.

        • Call it was it was. Criminal. Most people would have done jail time or at least a long, drawn out trial. All would have been politically ruined.

          But our government is about protecting the Kennedys, which is probably why I’m no fan of the Kennedys. They don’t need my fanship, they are the original koolaid-drinker attracting, hero worship fawner attracting family. No wonder some consider Obama a member of the family.

    • And Bill Maher says the American people are stupid. Not.

    • I certainly agree with replacing the entire Congress. I used to be a democrat, but after the RBC fiasco, I registered “Decline to State.” There is too much corruption in Congress and way too much kow-towing to special interests. I wish we could have real campaign finance reform and term limits. We might actually end up with some worthwhile legislation.

      • “I’m not a Dem any more after 5/31/08 and the RBC decision.” That’s what I write on any Dem mailing I get now, then stuff it back in their postage-paid envelopes.

    • Rationality rules! That’s truly good to see, though the number should be higher.

    • Although not polled – I agree

    • That idea works for me. The present congress does not.



    • What’s the matter with the other 43%?

  14. Wow!

    I haven’t read the comments but I can already see that Dakinikat has been very busy trying to keep the house in order.

  15. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/sussex/8229478.stm

    the mystery deepens



  16. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090826/ap_on_go_co/us_stimulus_border_crossings

    OINK OINK and the pork goes on.



  17. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/8229353.stm

    Take note of the sidebar article about cutting 6000 jobs in the USA.
    is this an example of take the money and run?



  18. http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/entertainment/zontv/2009/08/cspan_town_hall_reston_health.html

    A very good article about the difference in cable tv news.



  19. I still don’t get it…..if Sen. Reid wanted REAL health care reform, which can only include a Public Option – why is the Gang of 6, representing less than 2M constituents, comprised of Blue Dogs and Republicans ALL from small populated states that DEPEND on Corporate donors for re-election?

    The only conclusion I can reach is Reid didn’t really want the Public Option! – while Obama spoke at health care rallies — KNOWING the deck was stacked against the Public Option.

    • josey be careful what you wish for. I am not sure the public options that have been put on the table so far get us much health care reform and certainly not much in the way of health insurance reform.

      The big question is why the Democrats did not begin with single payer.
      I do not think we have a congress that is capable of crafting a health care measure that will help any of us. Today on this thread what do we have—articles about all the pork in the stimulus pot, the pork in the national security pot. The one thing we do not have is pork for the people taxpayers who make it all possible.

      I still have not received my shares of GM.

  20. http://www.maniacworld.com/baseball-dad-of-the-year.html

    Just because every once in awhile during all the chaos and anger we need to remember what is important and see people who have it together



  21. Dakini: Saw your post above on fascism. It seems from history and from that definition that there is a core of fascist thinking (oxymoron) that combines the nationalist identity theme with state interests—the individual interests subordinate to state interests—and corporate interests supporting nationalist interests. A marriage of big government/big corporations, subordination of the individual to the big picture.

    If I get that right, I think that is where the label of fascist on OReilly begins to fall apart. He surely waves the national banner and plays the patriotism card but he also has been loudly critical of corporate machinations from GE to Sachs to banks and big corporations in general. Hannity is a little murkier. I would not call either one of them a Billy Sunday. I see them as more myopically anti-big government than fascist. It seems to me that a key element of fascism has to be a commitment to an uber strong national government. I do not see them going there.

    • point well taken … but I think they force themselves and their religious views on women, that’s where I bring in the label

      • I will think about that. They certainly line up the good looking, articulate blondes for what appears to be willing commentary. OReilly is clearly a Catholic; Hannity has a religious thread going but I am not sure what flavor. I really don’t see much religious stuff from either of them—Hannity is relentlessly anti-Obama and drooling dreams of Ronnie Raygun more than anything else.

  22. Appears that Senator Harry ‘Evil Mongers’ Reed is doing a bit of political bullying in Vegas.

    I doubt this will be helpful to him though it could be a bit fascist on his part.

  23. No matter what ism they call it , it is about power.
    facism = power to the state
    communism = power to the people( they say)
    religion = controlling the masses

    It is not always that old saying ” he who has the gold rules”
    it is always he who has the power rules
    How many of us in everyday life know someone who wants control of every aspect of their or someone else’s life
    They always know better than you and you just do not understand what is good for you.



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