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Live Blog: President Obama’s Press Conference

Will TOTUS be there or will they go with the big-screen TV?

Will TOTUS be there or will they go with the big-screen TV?

Tonight’s press conference by President Barack Obama is to focus on health care, according to the Washington Post:

Six months into his presidency, Barack Obama now owns America’s problems and a solid but slipping approval rating. He goes before the nation Wednesday night to defend his economic decisions and press his fight for the health care overhaul he says is desperately needed.”

Holding his 10th extended news conference, Obama will renew a message that the White House says he cannot pound enough: making health coverage affordable and sustainable is so vital that anything less will erode the economic stability of families, businesses and even the government.

The real question is whether the “reform” that comes out of Congress will actually be “affordable and sustainable,” however. The Black Agenda Report has a devastating article about Obama’s health care “reform” proposal by Bruce Dixon: Is the Obama Health Care Plan Really Better Than Nothing? Dixon cites an AP artlcle that compares the rollout of Medicare to the one proposed for Obamacare:

President Lyndon Johnson signed the Medicare law on July 30, 1965, and 11 months later seniors were receiving coverage. But if President Barack Obama gets to sign a health care overhaul this fall, the uninsured won’t be covered until 2013 — after the next presidential election.

In fact, a timeline of the 1,000-page health care bill crafted by House Democrats shows it would take the better part of a decade — from 2010-2018 — to get all the components of the far-reaching proposal up and running. The moving parts include a national insurance marketplace overseen by a brand new federal bureaucracy — the Health Choices Administration.

Even if Obama wins reelection in 2012, he will be out of office before the health care plan fully takes effect. Dixon points out that it will take until 2013 for any of the 50 million uninsured Americans to be covered. And he asks:

If the Johnson administration with no computers back in the sixties could implement Medicare for 45 million seniors in under a year, why does it take three and a half years in the 21st century to cover some, but not all, of America’s fifty million uninsured? And why does the Obama Plan make us wait till after the next presidential election? Politicians usually do popular things and run for election on the resulting wave of approval. Delaying what ought to be the good news of universal and affordable health care for all Americans till two elections down the road is a strong indication that they know the good news really ain’t all that good. And it’s not.

Inside the matrix of TV, the corporate media and on much of the internet, discussion of the Obama plan’s timeline, the human cost of another three years delay, and the comparison with Medicare’s 11 month rollout back in the days before computers are almost impossible to find. We can only wonder why.

I don’t suppose any of the media representatives who attend the press conference will ask about this, but you never know.

In other related health care news, Senator Orrin Hatch has walked out of the bipartisan group that has been working on the bill, saying:

“Some of the things they’re talking about, I just cannot support. So I don’t want to mislead anybody,”

Could that be good news?

CNN reported yesterday that Democrats in Congress are getting frustrated with Obama’s wishy-washy approach to leadership:

As the prospects for passing health reform by the time Congress leaves for its August recess look bleaker, Democratic grumbling about President Obama is growing louder. One Democratic senator tells CNN congressional Democrats are “baffled,” and another senior Democratic source tells CNN members of the president’s own party are still “frustrated” that they’re not getting more specific direction from him on health care. “We appreciate the rhetoric and his willingness to ratchet up the pressure but what most Democrats on the Hill are looking for is for the president to weigh in and make decisions on outstanding issues. Instead of sending out his people and saying the president isn’t ruling anything out, members would like a little bit of clarity on what he would support – especially on how to pay for his health reform bill,” a senior Democratic congressional source tells CNN.

Senator Charles Grassley related to Congress Daily a bit of dirt he heard from a Democrat who attended a “private meeting” with Obama to discuss health care:

Grassley said he spoke with a Democratic House member last week who shared Obama’s bleak reaction during a private meeting to reports that some factions of House Democrats were lining up to stall or even take down the overhaul unless leaders made major changes.

“Let’s just lay everything on the table,” Grassley said. “A Democrat congressman last week told me after a conversation with the president that the president had trouble in the House of Representatives, and it wasn’t going to pass if there weren’t some changes made … and the president says, ‘You’re going to destroy my presidency.’ ”

The White House did not respond to requests for comment.

CNN will be streaming the President’s press conference live beginning at 8PM on this page. This is a very big moment for Obama. Let’s hope he makes an effort to respond honestly and directly to reporters’ questions.

Please use the comments to share your reactions to what Obama has to say and to the quality of questions asked by White House reporters. What would you ask if you had the opportunity?

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274 Responses

  1. Do i really have to switch off of Ghost Hunters to watch this?

    • Yes, I’m afraid so. It’s your duty as a Conflucian.

      • But they’re at the Stanley Hotel. My cousins used to sneak us up there when we were kids and it was still abandoned in the summer and try to scare me there! Estes Park is like an integral part of my childhood summers!

  2. what channel is everyone watching?

  3. …there’s the studly swagger and “kewl” sport hop to the podium.

    • oooo, it’s Dubya’s fault! I know the answer now! And to think I spent all those years studying economics!

      • I think I’ll have doctor hubby try that approach. Start bleeding patients with leeches, and if they ask what the hell he’s doing, he can get all indignant and tell them “Well, I’m not the one who GAVE you the diabetes!”

  4. So if he’s pulled it back from the brink he owns it now, right? So the jobless rate, and lack of growthm etc is HIS from here on out?

  5. TOTUS must be on break. or replaced by SCROTUS (screen capture reader of the united states)

    SCROTUS..(I might TM that)

  6. He forgot to mention he pulled it back with our tax dollars. Don’t we get some credit. And btw, would one of those “journalists” ask him when I get my gm shares. I need to pay my co-pay.

  7. What if you don’t want insurance companies to exist in any realm but the major hell realms?


  9. What about MY question!!! answer please.

  10. Okay, the only thing he’s REALLY good at selling is his “moving personal narrative”

    So I’m taking bets on how long it takes before he mentions his own “unique upbringing” or historicalness in some way.

  11. When did universal healthcare become universal health insurance?!

    (I’m not watching. I’d rather eat my sushi in peace.)

    • May 31st 2008

      • YUP! That is when he no longer supported Single Payer, it was just ‘pretty words’ he was repeating, and he wasn’t a True Supporter…some of the followers are just now figuring this out! How could he, he promised, he said he was for Single Payer. Wha…

        “I am the President!”

        OK, everyone please write that down and don’t ya forget it!

      • SOD and lyn5, thank-you.

    • It has always been Health Insurance. Always, and with every politician, including Hillary. Never once did you hear anyone claim they were going to implement anything that went directly to medical care. It has all been Universal Healthcare COVERAGE.

  12. Obama: wah, wah the evil Republicans said they are going for the kill. It’s not about me. Wah, wah

    • But, doesn’t he have a supermajority in BOTH houses? How can the Republicans block him? What a whiny ass.

  13. Well, that’s true. The cost of healthcare is definitely gobbling up wages.

    But his plan doesn’t address that. (( small point ))

    • Oh, details, details…he said he was the President!

    • He doesn’t know what’s in the plan. Someone gave it to him on a sticky note, and you know he’s bad with losing those.

      • That, or he was dozing off in the chair while trying to listen in on Rahm’s side of the telephone call explaining the plan.

  14. Obama: Whine, whine, blah, blah (insert shameless class warfare phrase), blame, blame, ( claims of being attacked), make a few jokes, (give 6 minute answer to one question), more stale campaign promises, name a few main street people and show the email they sent you about their Irish Setter with Chrones disease, show that you are wearing the dog’s collar..Say that this will only hurt people who make more than 1million dollars.

    • Okay, I am spewing coffe over the Irish Setter with Crohn’s! LMAO!

    • I would ROFL, but for the awful back pain I’m experiencing. Good one, afrocity!

    • i am laughing so hard i hit random keys and opened a page with error message

      “Error: please type comment.”

      omg. roflmao. crying. didn’t live blog but enjoying reading all this after the fact. conflucians are the best.

    • Also like how people still in “dire straits” will get an exemption. right now, that’s me and my partner. One still working, so not broke enough for MediCal, but just barely getting by on 1 income plus unemployment. I’m just touched that we don’t rate as insurance worthy.

      • Yeah, and who gets to decide what “dire” is? Let me guess, the Ins companies?

  15. Chuck Todd always gets to ask a question. Was that part of the agreement with MSNBC to back Obama and rip Clinton to shreds?

  16. Chuck Toddler spoonfeeding Obama a question.

  17. I bet anyone an arugula smoothie that he won’t call on Major Garrett from FOX NEWS.

  18. “First of all, you haven’t seen me out there complaining about Republicans.” –President Obama

    • He is such a liar. I detest nearly every quality in that man. . On second thought, even his skin color can’t make me give him that much credit. I detest every quality in that man.

  19. Oh snap…did Chuckie really ask that!? That’ll be the last time he gets called upon — or maybe it was staged.

  20. Obama: “I’m not blaming the Republicans”

    Then he basically nails the coffin shut on the two RINO’s he just mentioned.

    Of course Jake Tapper gets a question.

  21. Approximately one in six Americans doesn’t have health care.


  22. I’m rolling that meeting with my doctor about dying with dignity every 5 years—is that really there? God I hope she won’t make me give up that parade permit with the fire engine and motorcycle escort and the banner that says, hell no, she won’t go.

    • yes, see Section 1233 of H.R. 3200.

    • I told hubby about that provision (yes, it’s in there), and he says he’ll just walk in and tell his patients “I completely disagree, but the govt says I have to tell you to get your ass out on that iceberg, you old cow. Consider yourself told.”

  23. Why are you RUSHED?

    Oh, lets see?

    1. 2/3 of bankruptcies are due to heathcare substandard insurance or no insurance.

    2. 50 Million people in America without health insurance/health care.

    3. 60 Americans die each day without health care insurance.

    4. Costs are rising and will soon place most insurance out of reach and business report it is one of the major concerns in cost and affordability.

    5. Health Care is not transportable.

    6. People with pre-existing conditions can’t buy or get health care insurance.

    7. Only some states have pools to buy insurance, but these are pricing out businesses.

    8. People can’t afford their 50% participation or even 25% to 75% due to the high inflation rise of premiums.

    9. Insurance companies, even raised premiums over 10% during a recession in just one year and yet the co-pays are higher and care is rationed via a gate keeper.

    10. Children under group plans are charged the same amount as adult and you are prevented from purchasing insurance because you qualify under a group, this is pure greed and it is a tax of greed in the thousands of dollars a year.

    11. We are the last major Western country with no Universal Care, and the US is ranked behind Cuba and Romania in child mortality rates. 😯

    12. Some thing has to be done, why are we taxed higher than other countries yet get nothing for it?

    ….the list goes on and on…

    NOW DO SOME THING! HR 676 Single Payer…it works, it is not complicated and it has NO PORK in it.

  24. He seems to be stuttering and uh uh uh-ing more than usual. Maybe the big screen TV doesn’t have the answers tonight.

    • SCROTUS shrunk up? Is it THAT cold in there?

    • Meanwhile, over on TL, BTD has tingles going up all of his legs over what he sees as a boffo “performance” by SCROTUS. I usually respect BTD, but tonight I despise him for his “pols will be pols” crap. He doesn’t seem to give a damn whether Americans will benefit from any health care legislation. It’s all about his pol score card of the moment. Despicable.

      • BTD seems to think that because Obama wants to get re-elected, that’s enough security for us that he has to deliver on health care.

        Do people on the left not know (or care) that under the plan Obama is trying to get passed, nothing will actually happen until 2013, and won’t go into full effect until 2018?

  25. I think it’s the funniest thing. A republican called obama’s healthcare plan his waterloo. So tonight as obama speaks I am watching a movie…Waterloo Bridge..starring Vivian Leigh and Robert Taylor. Is this an omen???

  26. Blue pill, red pill. WTF?

    Nancy Pelosi is gonna come out as Trinity with some kick ass Matrix moves any second now.

  27. Think someone might ask him what he thinks of the 70% of Americans who want universal w/single payer and why they can’t have it.

  28. Did the White House had to be shamed into doing the right thing?

    WH discloses health-care execs’ visits

    Minutes before a press conference where President Barack Obama could have been asked about the issue, the White House released a list of visits by health care executives.

    • Do you have the list?

      • · Bill Tauzin visited the White House on March 5, May 19, June 2, and June 24.

        · Karen Ignagni visited the White House on March 5, 6, and 11 and June 30.

        · Richard Umbdenstock visited the White House on February 4, February 23; March 5, March 25, March 30; April 6, and May 22.

        · J. James Rohack visited the White House on March 25, June 22, and June 24.

        · William C. Weldon visited the White House on May 12.

        · Jeffrey B. Kindler visited the White House on March 5, May 6, and June 2.

        · Stephen J. Hemsley visited the White House on May 15 and 22.

        · Angela F. Braly visited the White House on February 13.

        · George Halvorson visited the White House on March 27 and June 5.

        · Jay Gellert visited the White House on February 10, March 11, and March 20.

        · Thomas Priselac visited the White House on April 3.

        · Richard Clark visited the White House on March 24.

        · Wayne T. Smith visited the White House on June 4.

        · Rick Smith visited the White House on May 19 and June 2.

        In addition to the above information, the White House visitor records reflect that Mr. Tauzin, Ms. Ignagni, Mr. Umbdenstock, Mr. Rohack, Mr. Kindler, Mr. Halvorson, Mr. Gellert, Mr. Priselac, David Nexon, and Rick Smith were scheduled to attend a May 11 meeting at the White House. We understand that all the individuals attended the meeting except Mr. Kindler, and that Mr. Clark attended as well. Finally, the visitor records do not reflect any visits by the following individuals: Ben J. Lipps; William A. Hawkins, III; or Robert L. Parkinson.

        • Thanks! They aren’t identified by company, but we can google them.

          • Karen Ignani is CEO of American Health Insurance Plans, one of the insurance companies that pledged to reduce their own costs if government left them alone a few months back.


          • March 5, to be exact.

          • They’re probably all insurance industry lobbyists:

            The health insurance industry has started making the hard sell on Congress’ plans for an overhaul of the health care industry, but not in the way many expected. Rather, the frontwoman for private insurance companies is asking for more regulation, not less.

            “We have to have a complete overhaul of the rules,” Karen Ignagni, president and CEO of America’s Health Insurance Plans (AHIP), told the Senate Finance Committee on Tuesday.

          • Cinie, I read the article. Her version of “more regulations” is that the insurance companies will agree to not charge higher premiums for sick people, and the govt will agree to mandate that everyone buy insurance.

            But not a word about reducing profits, or stopping the denial-of-claims dance, or in any way keeping them from skimming however much they want off the top.

            Everyone gets the same premium? Great. But no limits suggested on what that premium might be, and we’ll make EVERYONE pay it.

          • I did a post about it at the time and remembered her name and that she was full of hooey. I was fuzzy on the details, though.

          • Halvorson is CEO of Kaiser Permanente Northern CA.

        • I would like to see the roster, with company and purpose of visit. I want FULL ACCESS and TRANSPARENCY.

        • *Billy Tauzin was named president and chief executive officer of the … In addition, under Billy Tauzin, PhRMA and its member companies created the…

          *Karen Ignagni, president and chief executive officer of America’s Health Insurance Plans (AHIP), Karen Ignagni is the voice of health insurance plans, …

          *Richard J. Umbdenstock is the president and chief executive officer of the American Hospital Association (AHA), and a past chair of the AHA …

          *J. James Rohack, M.D., a
          cardiologist from Bryan, Texas, was inaugurated today as the 164th president of the American Medical Association (AMA), the nation’s largest and most influential physician organization.

          *William C. Weldon is Chairman and Chief Executive Officer of Johnson & Johnson, just the sixth Chairman in Johnson & Johnson’s over …

          *Jeffrey B. Kindler, CEO of Pfizer (L) and Bernard Poussot, CEO … on Yahoo! News Photos.

          *Stephen J. Hemsley (born 1952) has been CEO of UnitedHealth Group since 2006. Before joining the company in 1997, he had a career at Arthur …

          *Angela F. Braly, President and Chief Executive Officer of WellPoint, Inc will address TOWN HALL Los …

          *George Halvorson is author of Health Care Reform Now!: A Prescription for Change, published by Jossey-Bass Press, released in August 2007. …

          *Jay Gellert: Health Net CEO : CONVERSATIONS FROM THE CORNER OFFICE: Health Net CEO Jay Gellert.

          *Thomas M. Priselac has been elected as the American Hospital Association’s chair-elect designate by the AHA’s Board of Trustees. …

          *Richard Clark ??????

          *Wayne T Smith has been CEO of Community Health Sys (CYH) for 12 years. Mr. Smith has been with the company for 12 years. The 63 year old executive ranks 8 …

          *Rick Smith ????????

          It is hard to see if these are the ‘Secret Visitors’ to the White House, and so it is NOT TRANSPARENCY IN ACTION!

        • I’m sure it’s our Confluence thread earlier that forced the truth out of him!!!!

          (well, i can dream can’t i?)

          • We will continue until they HEAR 76% OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WHO WANT A PUBLIC OPTION… HR 676 is a Public Option, simple and no pork…23 pages of HEALTH CARE.

    • Not shamed – they’ve been sued by CREW.

  29. Did Obama talk about the “red pill” and the “blue pill” on purpose? What would be the reasoning behind a Matrix reference?



    Is Obama hearing challenged or something?

    • He isn’t hearing challenged. He’s ignoring you deliberately because he doesn’t give a sh&t about the American people. It’s all about the insurance companies.

    • All together NOW, SINGLE PAYER HR 676, it is simple and it covers everyone.

  31. I swear – either he’s not making any sense or I can’t follow a conversation anymore… prolley have to see a bunch of specialists who will run the same test over and over (who does that?) and waste all that money getting my brain examined.

  32. Chip Reed! Go Chip Go!

    What kind of sacrafices

    No medicare when I get old?

  33. Obama: It was a republican idea. I want to give credit where credit is due.

    subtext: The sun has to shine on an elephant’s ass sometime.

  34. Oh, the ‘Secret Dinner’ question and TRANSPARENCY!

  35. OK kids…what have we learned so far?


    • expatriation is the best retirement plan?

      • It would seem that my plans on being a expat in the Caribbean is the way to go.

        My friend in the Caribbean required spinal surgery — she went to Trinidad and had the surgery for a fraction of what it would have cost in the US (even with Medicare). She doesn’t bother with medicare or that stupid Medicare plan D.

        Medicare plan D — expanded and twisted to the will of the insurance companies and it evolves into the Democrat health care plan for the US.

        That’s my prediction — US healthcare — version Plan D.

    • He sent a list of the ‘Secret Dinner Guests’, some people took some photos (don’t know who that was, haven’t seen the photos) and he can’t or rather WON’T do Single Payer (do ya think it has some thing to do with the SECRET DINNER GUEST at the White House?).

      I don’t know how the Press Conference on Health Care has gone back to his favorite subject, his base Wall Street POOR Millionaires…who are asking for a Second handout oops Second Bail Out…oh and don’t forget their second million dollar bonuses.

  36. wonder if Obama’s getting his bonus from Goldman Sux?

  37. He is blaming Wall Street for the financial meltdown. Someone please ask him why he gave trillions to the people who caused the problem!

  38. The list appears—not that any of our national media journals (except maybe Helen) will dig into it or have a clue what it means.

  39. You know, I don’t get the appeal of this guy. He is soooo boring.

    • These reporters have to know that he sux.

    • Never have…

    • It’s those whistling S’s and slamming his sentences shut like a preacher that make it impossible for me to listen to him. Well, that, and the fact he has lied to us too many times to make me think I’m hearing anything truthful.

  40. If Obama wants financial regulatory reform, why isn’t it happening?!!

    • I was just about to post that! 😉

    • It will and it will go into affect in 2017 to make sure he gets it right. Any one have the famous LIST?

    • oh, we have Obama financial regulatory reform, public employment for kabuki reform … ask Timmy (Beavis) Geithner… it’s the shell game with jobs and private sector incentives for campaign volunteers and donors!

      • I have a superb expose Stiglitz did here in Germany of Financial Regulations. It was for the UN IIRC. Journalist here complained that it’s too bad such a brilliant work will end in the waste basket because many leaders in the G8 are not serious about reforming the financial system.

        Lemme see if I can find it.

    • BB: It hasn’t happened yet because GS has not had time to write up the details.

      • Naw, the plan is written up, he’s just waiting until he has enough former Goldman employees to fill all those regulator jobs. They’re kind of busy sucking the market dry right now.

      • Now why didn’t I think of that?

  41. “Put something in the kitty”

    Hey is that a little Chicago ” pay to play”, I am hearing?

    • Gosh, you are quick, must be, I thought it was his OKie Dockie chit chat. Anyone have the link to the list…or is it a SECRET LIST or the SECRET DINNER GUESTS?

  42. BTW, everyone I talk to (normal folks who don’t really follow politics) is saying they are SICK TO DEATH of him blabbing on teevee.

    This is his 4th primetime speech, in 6 months. GWB only did 4 in eight years.

    • He says nothing from the heart. That is why he is boring. Notice that he only puts feeling into defending himself and saying nasty things.

      • The only time he gets emotional is if he’s irritable and peevish because he’s been criticized.

      • You are very, very right. I was so stricken by the way he used the exact same tone of voice when he read from the teleprompter, “Malia and Sasha, I love you more than you know,” and “I am outraged and disgusted….”

        Did he not take any speech classes in college? Or, is it a case of “everything I know about public speaking, I learned in church”?

  43. Well, his speechifying time is about to run out. Has he said anything yet?

  44. red pills, blues pills, sore throats, allergies!

    the Doctor O is in!

  45. Oh, oh, he is doing the pretend doctor. He is saying that a doctor would take out a kid’s tonsils out to make more money. Yup, right, that is why it took me til age thirty-six to get mine out, because there was so many surgeons lined up to make money on it. 😯

    I am the President of the United States

    • He’s full of crap. Docs used to prophylactically remove tonsils when a kid started getting frequent infections. Then the insurance companies figured it was cheaper to treat 20 infections than pay for the surgery, so started saying kids didn’t “meet the criteria” (i.e. be practically dying of sepsis) to have them out. Tough shit, kid – eat some ice cream and suffer.

      • Yup. That was such BS.

      • I was only approved after they reviewed my medical records and saw I was off antibiotics for no more than three weeks in about a six month period and they were worried about be becoming anti-biotic resistant and I had a condition that made infections a problem. They weren’t rushing this, and the documentation was laborious and long and three doctors has to sign off for the insurance company to pay.

        Bad example.

  46. Just for fun and for free—go to NQ and listen to HRC’s speech today at a university in India and her Q and A follow-up. It is sweet pain—sweet that there are competent, caring and brilliant people in our government and I don’t have to tell you what the pain is.

    • Maybe that our presidency, our country, our treasury, and our democracy were stolen from us right before our eyes?

      or did you have something else in mind?

  47. Oh, God Lyn Sweet. Bring up Skip Gates.


    Why are we talking about this for f-ck’s sake.

    Lynn Sweet is a reporter from Chicago, this is a distraction.

    such bullsh!t

    • I WON!!!! I have a bet with a friend, since his poll numbers have been dropping, how long it would be before a helpful reporter brought up a race issue in one of these conferences. It always pops up when he’s in trouble.

      Woohoo! She owes me a Chai!

      • I won too. I knew it would come up again. He is despicable and Lynn was a plant.

        • I think Lynn was a plant, too. She adored and protected him during the primaries.

          I think her goal was, if you see him floundering, ask about Gates.

          I won my bet, too. 🙂

    • Lynn Sweet never mentions that the cop who arrested Skip Gates was a Black guy.

      Gimme a break.

      • You got that one wrong Mary.

        • Gates said he does not think that anything he did justified the officer’s actions. He walks with a cane and said he did not pose a threat.

          “I weigh 150 pounds and I’m 5-7. I’m going to give flak to a big white guy with a gun. I might wolf later, but I won’t wolf then.

      • One of the cops present was black, but not the arresting officer.

        • Thank you, WMCB.

          But I also agree with AfroCity; the question should not have come up, or should have been brushed aside.

          • I’m glad the question was asked. I don’t think he gave a particularly good answer though.

          • I agree on that. It has nothing to do with the topic supposedly under discussion.

      • Where on earth did you get that idea?!

        • There’s a photo showing Gates cuffed, with his mouth open wide (like in a hollar) on his front porch with a black officer in front of him. There most certainly was at least one black officer there at the time of the arrest.

          • Yep. And the photo of Gates’s face implies he’s yelling at the officers. Reporters other than Lynn Sweet of Chicago are reporting Gates resisted arrest and was totally obnoxious when asked for identification.

            But even so, it had nothing to do with the topic of the press conference.

      • That’s fine….Obama called him stupid.

  48. Wasn’t that a planted question?

  49. He’s talking about the Gates story.

  50. He is doing the comedy bit, on the Gates incident.

    • All you people are just THE BEST.

      • Hell (none / 0) (#80)
        by Big Tent Democrat on Wed Jul 22, 2009 at 07:41:45 PM EST

        I got a tingle up my leg. Seeing a great pol at the top of his game is fun to watch.

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        • WTF? Hand me that barf bucket.

        • I can not believe that he thinks Obama is a great pol or at the top of his game. Knee capping people is not greatness particularly when you are in full campaign mode and don’t have a bit of concern about really helping the people.

    • Is the honeymoon over for Obama? Reforming America’s health care system is being seen as the biggest test of his Barack Obama’s presidency so far and growing criticism has led to a slump in the polls.

  51. Arrrrrghhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!

    I was at Harvard, never had a r@cist thing happen to me on Cambridge.

    Obama can you stop blacks from killing blacks in Chicago???
    Why not ask about that Lynn Sweet?

    • Not only that but wasn’t there 36 children killed at or just outside their schools?

      • Yep… But sure ask Obama how he feels about the elitist professor who was arrested.

        • Yup, I guess since he fixed Chicago he will no address Health Care…NOT! OOps he took other questions off topic. Imagine if he had gone to Russia to discuss disarmament and taken Health Care questions? Yup…just ignore those 76% of Americans who are concerned with Health Care in America.

        • I actually feel that the police had cause to check, but the police and Gates then went on in different directions. He shouldn’t have been arrested, in my view. That is one reason why I support community policing, because they are there to protect and serve the community and the community is there to support them in their efforts. It is a partnership, with mutual support/respect and it is clear that this police department needs to get with the program and that Professor Gates needs to be visible beyond the University.

          I quit all my volunteering after the Denver convention, where Hillary was not given a Roll Call Vote for POTUS or VP (like Biden earned it..NOT). I really felt 18 million voters were ignored, just as 76% of Americans were ignored at this press conference where the TOPIC was: HEALTH CARE!

  52. He said nothing of substance that I heard….

  53. Anything to avoid a real dialogue with the media about the most pressing issue for Americans today.

    • AMEN! 76% of Americans Want a Public Option, but he spoke about the Wall Street Poor Millionaires, and did some chit chat and then went into great detail about Professor Gates and his incident. I am surprised he didn’t take a question about his favorite ice cream flavor, and I feel as though we didn’t get anywhere.

      When he speaks about some other issue I expect the press to ask about health care, that thing that other Western countries have that we don’t.

  54. When in hot water always remind people that you are black and disenfranchised.

    If I was at there, I would have said to Lynn:

    I have no comment on the situation with Skip. While he is a friend this conference is about health care. Next.

    • I have no comment on the situation with Skip. While he is a friend this conference is about health care. Next.

      Thank YOU! Yes, that most important subject that 76% of Americans are concerned about.

      • It is actually racists that she asked him that. Gee a black guy gets a hang nail, lets ask Afrocity to comment.

        Black men are arrested in Chicago everyday for killing other black people. Ask him about that. It somewhat involves health care. Gun wounds need to be treated.

        • I don’t know how you put up with it, lady. What, don’t all you people have a psychic link hive mind or something? I’d get annoyed, real fast.

        • Agree completely, Afrocity.

          What on earth was Lynn Sweet thinking?

  55. The Factor Follies promise a follow-up immediately after this prime time pause in nothingingness. Perhaps that will be entertaining.

  56. Wow! hope…change…I’m enthralled!

    wait…that’s a commercial for cereal.

  57. What did I miss it? was I sleeping?

  58. “if you have health insurance it will provide you with “more stability and more security”?

    • It’s hopenchange 2.0 Oh, and STFU, you raycist, and don’t look a gift slogan in the moth.

    • Whatever it is, it won’t happen until Obama is reelected (or not) and it won’t fully take effect until he has left office. That tells me we are NOT going to like the result.

  59. {{doing my best Aahnald Horshak imitation}}

    ewww ewww (raising hand) I have a question!!!

  60. They have people responding to his press conference through skype on CNN.com LIVe.

    These people look paid.

    • I believe it, after the primaries I believe it and all the OFF TOPIC questions are a good indicator.

      • They said they were very reassured by Obama’s press conference and the fact that he said that he won’t let just anything go through–that was very reassuring to them, they had been worried about that before the conference. I don’t buy that anyone who is that worried about Obama and Congress trying to pull a fast one and pass a garbage bill under the guise of reform would have been satisfied by what he said in this press conference, which was as usual Obama avoiding committing to anything of substance and trying to get by on the generalities that reasonable people already agree on.

        And, then the desk person closed by saying something about Hillarycare deja vous and reading a viewer response about Hillary fatigue.

        What garbage.

        • To be clear, I’m not seriously suggesting that they were paid, though. I just thought it was really cheesy and dumb coverage, in the same vein as those lame “focus groups” that Luntz and others do.

        • They said they were very reassured by Obama’s press conference and the fact that he said that he won’t let just anything go through–that was very reassuring to them, they had been worried about that before the conference.

          He hasn’t read the 1,000 + legislation, how could that have re-assured them, Bill Clinton always read things, consulted and sent things back and forth. Oh, but he wasn’t on TOUR…he actually stayed at the office and worked til the wee hours.

          • Earlier today on CNN, in promoting Obama’s press conference, Blitzer and I think it was Jessica Yellin played clips of presidential press conference moments of the past where presidents got stumped, and of course the teaser was Bill being asked what he’d like to say to Monica (asked by Wolf no less.)

  61. is it over?
    did he take off the dog collar?

    • Bo says “I have a dog collar too”

      • LO F-ING L!!!!!!!!!!
        why aren’t you doing stand-up comedy?
        There’s probably a provision in the stimulus-you could get paid and have the good health insurance

      • and then goes on: “and the dog’s name is, uh, uh, oh yeah…buddy”

  62. Wait! — he’s saying all these things he’s doing and then follows it with “I know these aren’t in the House bill that was passed.”

  63. Well Bill asks the basic question of his talking heads: what is the program the president supports. No we don’t know for sure.

    • Good point, but that wasn’t an important question and he went off topic.

    • You’re right. We don’t know for sure. No more details than we had before we wasted an hour listening to him.

      Obama can’t sell it, because he doesn’t know what his plan IS.

      Lotta “bamboozling.”

  64. Question. If medical reform is passed this year when is it set to go into effect. Read somewhere today that it would be three years. Can that be right??Seems like a long time to wait for some help.

  65. “…now watch this drive.”

  66. He’s working with “healthcare “experts.

  67. TV has absolutely ruined serious discourse. Everyone goes for sound bites and nobody makes sense.

  68. Stop lavishing big bills on them

    • Oh, but he worries about the ‘POOR MILLIONAIRES’ that is his base, that is why they got taken care of first and not Single Payer.

    • he wouldn’t be where he is today if it wasn’t for Penny Pritzker and the Wall Street Bandits … Puleeze!

    • If he was worried about spending, we’d be hearing about Nancy’s 16 million dollar field mice and paying 4 times market price for some canned ham.

      You could buy a lot of MRI’s for that shit.

  69. That timeline is disheartening to me. It reminds me too much of when Bush ran for his second term and much was made about him finishing what he started–needed a second term. Now, health care will be a hold over. Much will be said that Obama will need to be there to finish what he started. This task needs to be accelerated. Hate to see this become a political football. We need help now.

    • I know. I was shocked to read it. To me, it says that the entire health care “reform” is about handing over a lot of taxpayer money to the insurance companies–just like he did with the banks.

        • I think that list of salaries and profits of insurance companies that WMCB posted should be everywhere. Now there was a big eye opener.I think that should become part of the discourse.


      • Well, he could have done THAT with just 1 page. Just think of all the trees that dfied needlessly for HR 3200.

  70. My brother in law stopped by to tell us some horrible news just as the Press Conference started. I missed the whole thing and I’m too upset to read the comments but, I just wanted to peek in and explain my absence.

  71. New open thread up!

  72. Bostonboomer, no, it’s not good news. You live here, you should recognize your own state’s plan when you see it. This is MA health care, we already have it.

    • I was joking about the fact that Orrin Hatch was complaining about some of the things in the bill. I hope the thing goes down in flames. It will be the last nail in the coffins of Medicare and Social Security.

  73. Thanks for bringing me up to date. I wouldn’t have missed Torchwood, not even for a competent POTUS, let alone SCROTUS (SOD, that’s an instant classic!)

  74. […] was catching up on the press conference going on during Torchwood at The Confluence, I happened on this instant classic from stateofdisbelief TOTUS must be on break. or replaced by SCROTUS (screen capture reader of the […]

  75. The comments here have had me laughing for an hour.

    It’s the only thing that keeps me from crying. Y’all are great!!

  76. see.i didn’t have to suffer through that..thanks all.and hugs too.

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