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Palin Derangement Syndrome


From Real Clear Politics:

While reading his top ten list Monday night, “Late Show” host David Letterman said Gov. Sarah Palin bought makeup from Bloomingdale’s to update her “slutty flight attendant” look. Palin was in New York over the weekend.

It gets worse:

VH1 comedian Chuck Nice appeared on Tuesday’s “Today” show and compared Alaska Governor Sarah Palin to the sexually transmitted disease herpes. He mocked, “But, Sarah Palin to the GOP, this is what I’ve got to say, she is very much like herpes, she’s not going away.”

What the fuck is wrong with these people?

*Failbot troll prophylactic:

This is not about “supporting” Sarah Palin.  Neither of the two statements above have anything to do with any legitimate criticism of Governor Palin’s policies or record.

They are examples of misogyny.




It’s even worse that I originally thought:

That would be Willow Palin, the 14 year old daughter that accompanied Sarah and Todd to New York.




Misogyny is a bipartisan effort:

Sarah Palin has begun to get on the nerves of Republican senators who say the former GOP vice presidential nominee is taking her own White House aspirations entirely too seriously.

Yeah, like anyone would ever vote for a stupid girl.



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193 Responses

  1. Evidently she scares the bejeesus out of corporate America.

    By the way myiq, the failbots don’t respond to logic so I’m not sure why you are bothering trying.

  2. But we’re in a post-feminist world, right? It’s ok to make those jokes because women now have equal stature so they don’t mean anything.

    And we’re in a post-racial world as well so let’s make some jokes and see if anyone minds…

  3. Isn’t odd how ” such big strong men” lol are scared to death of an intelligence woman with class.
    I do not have to agree with all her ideas but she was the best thing the republicans had and that is what scares them.
    This election showed that both Hillary Clinton and Sarah Palin had more intelligence and integrity and class than any male in the field.
    I have said this before my dream before I die is to see these two exceptional women work together for the good of this country. Those two could make a wonderful difference and change the climate in this country.



    • THAT wwould be interesting and BRILLIANT!1

      Hillary Clinton for President 2012
      Sarah Palin for Vice President 2012

      No chance whatsoever, but it would be the best thing this country has EVER done….

  4. I watched her interview with Hannity online today, and she has the exact opposite effect on me: she delights me. It has nothing to do with her policies or ideology. What I respond to (as do millions of others) is her complete lack of artifice. There is no polled, focus-grouped, marketed, teleprompted premeditation to everything she says and does. She is direct, folksy and…HONEST. If you don’t agree with her ideas, then so what? It’s fascinating that she provokes such hostility. Her authenticity is especially refreshing after a year of Obama who is unctuous, contradictory, and continually dishonest, but–he is SO ELOQUENT when he does it! I love the way she is pushing buttons, just like Hillary has, because she refuses to conform to the expectations of “femininity.” It infuriates them. In the comments about the Hillary article written in the Daily Beast the other day, someone was so angry, because Hillary spoke about “working WITH Obama,” instead of FOR him, “as IF she was his equal!” I thought about that throughout the day. Yep–that’s right–she does think she is his equal, BECAUSE SHE IS! This is not a fecking monarchy, and he is the King. What was galling to this commenter was the fact that she was not sufficiently submissive. Too stinkin’ bad. Go Sarah & Hillary!

    • Amen to everything you have said, fif.

      Go Hillary! Go Sarah!

    • I just watched that clip that was linked on Real Clear Politics of the Hannity interview. Like you, it occurred to me that the beltway simply hates anything but a New England accent. I disagree with many of Palin’s views, but I appreciate that when asked whether the legislature might override one of her vetoes, she said, “That’s fine. That’s checks and balances. It’s all part of the process.” You’re right, fif, there is nothing artificial about her. She will never be as well-spoken as Hillary, and she leans too much toward private enterprise as the ultimate solution in all cases, but she sincerely believes in the democratic process.

      • I couldn’t agree more–I watched the clip today and felt exactly the same way.

      • do you know that Palin recently appointed a pro-choice judge to one of the state courts and she did it based on the woman’s talent and experience and her judicial temperment? Now how did a woman who wants to sew our v-jayjays shut according to the blogger boyz and grlz crowd ever do such a thing?

    • It was the same with Hillary. The treatment of her in the media bore no resemblance whatsoever to her actually performance in the debates or her general personality. It’s misogyny pure and simple.

      • It contined this morning on MoJoe where three men carried on about the “chaos” around Palin and how that shows that she can’t run a campaign. First, there is no chaos around Palin. Second, she’s not running a campaign and third, these are the guys who make excuses for every singly mistake that Obama makes. It pure misogyny.

    • I really like Sarah for all the reasons you mention. Since I also am usually a fiscal conservative, I like some of her policies. I really don’t think running trillion dollar deficits are going to help our economy in the long run.

      While I’m socially liberal (not progressive), I have no problem with her Christian beliefs so long as she doesn’t push them on others. I’ve seen no evidence of her ever doing that in Alaska and she is “real” enough to do it there if ever.

      If she runs, I’ll gladly donate and campaign for her against anyone else I can think of who might run now in either party. Go Sarah!

    • I agree with you wholeheartedly. Thanks.

    • if you have a link to that post I will gladly go over and tell them that she is way more than his equal and was being charitible.

  5. I really cannot believe that people actually laughed at that joke about a 14 year old being “knocked up” by a grown man.

    WTF is this country coming to?

    • It’s coming to or is already at the place where dickheads like Letterman have been leading it to for years.

      I never understood why people liked or watched him. Isn’t he the equivalant of the old guy frat boy? We live in a world that thinks of that nasty Dane Cook (?) as a comedian. Watched one of his shows, it was completely about the number of times he could say f@%k about nothing at all.

      But I quit watching late night talk after Johnny Carson quit.

      • I remember when Lettermann first entered the late night circuit. His shows were crazy and silly … and juvenile.

        He had guests, that made the silliest stunts – e.g. a man claiming he could crawl into a balloon – and he did! That kind of stupid stuff. I would never have guessed, that this freakish guy would ever be a respected late night show host!

        And how sad is that! It seems the brattier, the cooler!

    • Yeah….that was pretty disgusting! I wonder if they would have laughed if that joke was directed at one of their own.

      I dont agree with Palin’s policies but I admire her tenacity. She is more man then most of those so-called “men” that are bashing her and she is a hell of alot more woman then any of them will ever dream of dating!

      • For several months she did exactly what the fauxgressive bloggers said they wanted her to do – stay in Alaska and out of the spotlight.

        But they still couldn’t quit her.

    • Suppose we’ll hear similar “jokes” about Malia in 4 years?

  6. The other thing about Palin is the elitism. It makes them (and wannabes) feel so superior. They are in the “special” club, and need to keep all the primitive folks down. These are “liberals?” That disgusted me last year–my “enlightened” friends’ reactions to Palin because she did not go to a private school or speak in prose. Katie Couric & Joy Behar are still out there peddling their Palin-hate. How do they think she runs the entire state of Alaska with such success–by being stupid? They do not want to share their privilege with the common people, who should know their place.

    • Amen again!

      If I didn’t know better… I’d say that was *me* posting as fif.

      I had to go to Boston this past week, to see my son graduate from Harvard. I have never been so disturbed, and turned off by the supposed “progressives” in Cambridge.

      They really do think they know what is best for all of us, you know. And they look down upon anyone who doesn’t sound, and act like them.

      I am appalled at the way my former cohorts act toward the “common” people. Their disdain is so apparent.

      • Right back at you SYD. I went to Brown–I know the culture. Maybe it was my small town upbringing, but I was not indoctrinated. The irony is–they think they are so evolved. It is just the flip side of the same right wing, fundamentalist coin.

        • Look up the bios of the big-name media idiots and check where they went to college.

          Ivy league educations are overrated.

          • I can guess without checking that they are admiring those ivy league degrees from afar.

        • fif, I always appreciate your comments, but maybe this one most of all. I’m back to small town living and although there are many things I really don’t like about it, It does have it’s advantages for some people, that got out, on their outlook on life.

        • The Ivy League is so overrated. Sadly, the U.S. News and World Report rankings now defines for most people where they should send their children to get a quality education. Some of the students and professors I encountered in the Ivy League are some of the most arrogant, ignorant people I’ve ever met. And you can definitely get a better education at a public university.

      • Congratulations with your son, SYD!

    • Agreed. They treated Hillary as working class too–I guess because Bill was from Arkansas. It’s sickening.

      • Hillary’s family was working class for the most part. He was a small business person and probably not too well off when she was young.

        Since Bill was from Arkansas, they treated them like so-called “white trash” and that’s a whole other stroke.

        • i used to live in Scranton Pa where her Dad is from and I now live near Scranton and Lake Winola and most of my friends are from Scranton or nearby communities. Her fathers family was working class. He only got to Penn State because of a football scholarship and had to work while he was there. He built a small business in Chicago and did well by working hard. But they were only middle class…and republican BTW. They have always been populists and that is what so many never got about Hillary, she will always be more for the people than the corporations. Obama is the opposite…raised upper middle class, he always aspired to be a snob and an elitist. He really does think he is better and sees himself as a “uniter” just by strength of personality and superiority.
          Obama supporters got it ass backwards.

    • The vitriolic hate directed at Palin and Hillary and Bill Clinton was largely based on class dynamics. The elites want total and continuing control.

      It’s disgusting the way the media and other B0 cronies have made targets of the Palin family, especially the children. And I’ve noticed they only point their hate at the females in the family. What a big coincidence.

      • There was a big dose of misogyny in there too – but it’s okay to call white trash women sluts and lesbian ballbusters.

        • Oh yes, there was. I will think of 2008 as the year that B0 unleashed misogyny in America. I mean, it was always there, but when the “most elegant post-racial candidate ever” allows the hate that was spoken in his name not to be challenged, I hold him responsible.

          Thanks for bursting my bubble, MyIQ. For just a second I was not thinking of the misogyny!

    • Thanks again. These are important comments.

  7. I am sure that if Letterman said that about Malia Obama, everyone would laugh as well. 👿 I think this comment is worse than the ‘nappy headed hoes’ comment, but I doubt that anyone will call him on it.

    • If Letterman said that about either of the Obama girls he would be unemployed the next day.

      But he would say it if he could get away with it.

    • “I think this comment is worse than the ‘nappy headed hoes’ comment…”


  8. it’s not just misogyny–it’s also a really creepy class prejudice directed at perceived “white trash”–a prejudice that until last year I never realized was so deeply rooted in so many so-called progressives.

    I’ve shared this story before, but I’ll mention it one more time. I stopped watching David Letterman in December of last year after he tossed out the following joke in his monologue.

    “So, did you hear that Sarah Palin’s church was set on fire. Now, now, this is serious business, a church being set on fire and all, so don’t laugh.” {Pauses while suppressing a grin.] “Fortunately, the police have already apprehended a suspect. His name is Joe the Arsonist.” Ba-dump-bump!

    All I could think to myself as I listened to this joker was–what if it had been a Black church or a Jewish Synagogue that had been set ablaze while worshippers–mostly women a children–were inside, and although thankfully no one was hurt, over a million dollars in damage to the house of worship was done? What if this had been any church aside from Sarah Palin’s–could this incident have possibly become the butt of late-night humor under any other circumstance?

    I haven’t watched Letterman since then and I haven’t missed him at all.

    • I stopped watching him at about the same time and can’t stand the douchebag now. It take someone who is really scum to make that joke about a 14 year old child!

      • Don’t insult douchebags like that – they serve a useful purpose.

        • I’m sorry douchebags everywhere. It won’t happen again.

        • Why can’t we call them jockstraps instead of douche bags?

        • Ask any gynecologist. Douche is bad for vaginal health. As such, douchebags are bad for women. I have no problem calling a misogynist ass a douchebag.

          • The problem is the assumption that women need to douche because we’re dirty “down there” and that a douchebag would be full of icky, dirty, girl stuff. Not exactly woman-positive.

    • That was the last on my list of “top ten reasons to stop watching Letterman.”

      • LOL. Good one. But not just funny, very true. We the people need to start turning this crap off. If we don’t tune in then these jackasses won’t have a job.

    • it’s not just misogyny–it’s also a really creepy class prejudice directed at perceived “white trash”–a prejudice that until last year I never realized was so deeply rooted in so many so-called progressives.

      Exactly. And important to remember. We are in a class war and it’s not just SP’s girl cooties they hate, but her working class ones too. That’s also the root of the Clinton hate. They give a damn about working people. That’s a sin Washington can’t forgive

    • “So, did you hear that Sarah Palin’s church was set on fire. Now, now, this is serious business, a church being set on fire and all, so don’t laugh.” {Pauses while suppressing a grin.] “Fortunately, the police have already apprehended a suspect. His name is Joe the Arsonist.” Ba-dump-bump!-David Letterman

      He has really sunk to new lows, and I hadn’t seen the above joke. What a sick man he is, doesn’t he know that women and children were inside the church when it was set on fire?

  9. It’s OT but this guy seems to have W2’s number and spoke out loud. Hope we hear more from the heart in the future.


    For example: James Pietrangelo II, the former Army infantryman and lawyer whose case the high court declined to review, reserved most of his ire for President Obama instead of the court. “He’s a coward, a bigot and a pathological liar,” Pietrangelo said in an interview with TIME shortly after the high court declined to hear his appeal. “This is a guy who spent more time picking out his dog, Bo, and playing with him on the White House lawn than he has working for equality for gay people,”

    • I am glad he is speaking out honestly, but I worry about B0’s vindictive streak and what may happen to this young man as a result.

  10. OT and breaking: SCOTUS clears FIAT/Chrysler Merger

  11. Who are those morons in the audience laughing and applauding. What is wrong with people?

  12. Sick. Really sick. What is wrong is also that there is no outrage over these kind of comments. I feel that we are consistently subjected to selective outrage. It’s ok to trash Palin, but not OK to trash Obama. It’s OK to squash Hillary, but not OK to squash Biden, and on and on. I would wish that outrage not be controlled by the msm, but alas it is. I stopped watching Letterman months ago.

    • If you check Memeorandum the only lefty blog besides us that it shows reacting is alicublog and their take was “ha-ha get a sense of humor”

  13. From the comments at Gateway Pundit:

    Actually … now that I’ve looked at it …

    “After a wink and a nod, ended up with a kilo of crack.”


    Turning a trick for a taste/rip. AKA a “strawberry” (in 80’s parlance). Most any streetwalker of the period. Who cared not a whit for money. Simply and just the next dose of rock cocaine.

    That’s in reference to one of Letterman’s other “jokes” about Palin.

  14. Letterman is dead to me.

  15. What comes around will go around. With public opinion turning against Obama the jokes will start flowing. It’ll be interesting to see how much of a sense of humor the left will have then. I’m betting, not much. The synonym for hypocrite appears to be progressive.

    • If Sarah Palin were to switch to the Democratic Party, I bet Obama would put her on his ticket.

      • I doubt it. She’s got natural political gifts, she’d upstage him, plus Obama deliberately chose not to break the gender barrier, putting a woman on the ticket would eliminate the fuel his campaign runs on.

      • I doubt it, too. But maybe Hillary would…..

    • You don’t know? News Weeks Editor Evan Thomas had ‘REPORTED’ that Obama is God! No one can do jokes about Oprah’s ‘The One’ NOW that it is reported by a sound news agency.

      Didn’t someone hint at the madness months ago?
      Hillary Clinton’s Rhode Island Event

  16. The “Still not getting it” award goes to Jim Treacher:

    At first I thought “her daughter” referred to Bristol. Which would be a pretty crappy joke to make about somebody’s kid, no matter how much you disagree with the parents’ politics (or mere existence, apparently). But it’d still be fair game. After all, Bristol did what she did. That’s not to say she should be happy about over-the-hill comedians getting cheap laughs from her mistakes, but hey, that’s comedy.

    No Jim, Bristol IS NOT “fair game” either.

    • I think Ace gets it though.

      Celebrity Wedding News: Shriveled Monkey Mummy David Letterman Marries Longtime Babymama, Bill Paxton


    • Did what she did, WTF? It’s a crime to have a baby now? Let’s put her in the stockade and stone her!

    • Think about it. The idea that rape would even be considered in a comedic context is mind boggling. But we had Sara Bernhart (I won’t even bother to look up her name for spelling) “joking” about Palin being raped, we have that asshat at Playboy blogging about “hate f*cks” and now this. What the hell kind of society are we living in that it’s acceptable to joke about rape? Ugly ugly ugly. This goes way beyond sexism. This is an all out gender beat down.

    • Where are the jokes about Obama’s father and what he did: Four wives, one common law one and he didn’t seem to support any of them or the children, including Obama. They only do their version of fair, the whole ‘Dreams of my Father’ was based on lies and the book he should have written should have been ‘Dreams of My Mother and Grandparents’, the folks that raised him.

      They just take pot shots at Palin because she is a woman and her children that are women too. Where is the joke about her eldest son who is serving in Iraq? See…it is pure misogyny!

  17. Deeds beats McAuliffe

    • Damn!

    • Yea, that sucks. Deeds is sort of OK. But I think McAuliffe was the only chance of beating the Republican in the general. Crap. And it does bother me that Deeds and the other guy ganged up on McAuliffe in unfair ways that reminded me of the presidential primary.

      • Well, now they know it works and gets applauded… It’s sick, but precedents get set and we all abide by them. Now we know that dirty politics are not just acceptable, but laudable. Say goodbye to the honest politician (not that we had many left).

    • Dammit. But, hey, that means I won’t have to give the Dems my vote for governor. The good news is that Jody Wagner won the lt. gov. nomination so I’ll be able to vote for at least one woman in November. And I’m very happy about that.

    • I am just sick. The VA blog crowd is crowing that the carpetbagger lost. He has those Clinton cooties, you know. At least, Moron lost after trying to use Obama against Terry in a most despicable way. I wanted Terry for gov so much. I could just cry. 😦

      • Yea, at least it wasn’t Moron. And Craig (pronounced “cray”) Deeds has worked is way up for a long time and is actually OK. But I don’t think he has a rats chance in hell of beating Bob. Funny enough, neither of the last two governors were born in VA, so who cares.

  18. It’s not just Palin they’re against, it’s all women with true leadership potential. The powers that be, whoever “they” are — the ones who control the money and the media and who foisted BO on us — don’t want any women right now . Misogyny is IN and it’s no cultural accident.

    If and when “they” do permit a women to appear to compete, she won’t be an actual strong woman whose popularity stems from her own confidence, smarts and talent — like Hillary, or in a different way, Sarah Palin. She’ll be a packaged phenomenon, a front-girl version of Obama, reading from a teleprompter (by then there’ll be teleprompter brain implants) to the sound of phoney cheers. And whatever she looks like and whatever she says, she’ll be the sexiest, smartest-but-not-intimidating woman men ever saw.


  19. Feel good story about a fine athlete. Go Bonnie Richardson!

    Texas track star earns state title all by herself


    She’s the best small high school track team in TX for 2 years.

  20. Warning: link to DU, the 7-11 outpost of the upstanding progressive crew:


    I don’t get it. I really don’t get it.

    • When did misogyny become a liberal value?

      • It didn’t. Any use of misogyny is by definition not liberal IMO. And therefore they are not liberal though they may pretend to be or even think they are. But then I’m a pirate, what do I know. 🙂

      • When Obama stayed silent about the misogyny in the primaries and in the GE. The misogyny monster has just kept growing and growing ever since.

        Silence is our greatest enemy. We Must Divest From Misogyny, our lives as women depends on it.

    • It’s a sad and frightening day when hate is so socially acceptable. Yes, misogyny is in. Let’s just hope Lady Karma bites these sexist pigs in the ass. Big time.

    • What’s not to get? They’re afraid of her.

    • I never read posts on DU — Unfortunately, I did just now – blech!

      • I think the Acronym DU should henceforth stand for:
        Dirty (Prog) Underwear 🙂

      • Don’t do it! I just read comments at Ace of Spades. Why don’t I learn? He put up a picture of Letterman’s wife and I knew the comments would be “that b—- is ugly and they both look gay.”

        • Yeah, but the morons at AoS aren’t liberal Democrats.

          A pox on both their houses.

          • The difference between Democrats and Republicans is Democrats hate and attack all women, Republicans hate all women but will sometimes defend their own female members, usually by attacking other women. LOL

        • It is too late, I was tempted by MyIQ’s link to look back at the city of Sodom and now feel myself slowly turning to salt–

  21. I can’t find anything about Letterman/Palin on any “feminist” blog I’ve checked so far but Violet rocks:

    Laura Bush, of all people, sounds like more of a feminist than Michelle Obama

    And it’s not just because she calls herself a feminist, whereas Michelle firmly rejects the label. Here’s what the former First Lady had to say about the Sotomayor nomination:

    “As a woman I’m proud that there might be another woman on the court,” Bush told ABC’s Good Morning America. “So we’ll see what happens, but I wish her well.”

    Nice, huh? And easy. Not hard to say.

    Would it kill Michelle Obama to say the same thing? Of course we understand Michelle isn’t a feminist, and we understand that she didn’t think it was important for her husband to appoint a woman to the Supreme Court. We understand that she believes that women with adulterous husbands aren’t fit to be president. We understand that she didn’t think that having a woman president would represent anything new or unconventional, and we understand that she had so little respect for Hillary Clinton that she might not have supported her as the nominee. Yes, we all understand how Michelle works. Got it. Real clear.

    But considering that she’s the First Lady now, and as such is a role model (god help us), would it kill her to at least try to straighten up and fly right?

    • Dr. Socks is outstanding. She’s a great wit and she takes no sh@t . The fireworks she makes possible in her comments section makes me more than content to remain in lurk mode.

      I also like AnnaBelleP. Her narratives explode with flavor and her bravery can be literally breathtaking.

  22. Putting the DU in DUMBSHIT:

    Palin uses her sex as a political asset, she should get called on it.

    She still thinks the political arena is a beauty contest.

    Fair game.

    My response:

    I guess she should have campaigned in a burkha

    Gotta keep those nasty lady-parts hidden.

    • I read the BS comment about Palin’s so called “sex as political asset” too —

      Please! Meanwhile, there were hundreds of Obama-as-hunka-hunka-burning-Obot-Ogasma photo-ops, you-tube videos & articles that I had to be subjected to over the last year.

      And then Dec 2008/Jan 2009, I will never forget the creepy juxtapostion of Mr Sex O-ppeal’s fluff stories with a major emerging crisis in the Middle East :

      Obama’s strategic silence (enjoying his post-election win vacationing) in Hawaii, while much of the international community watched in horror as Israel was bombing the hell out of the Palestinians.

      Meanwhile, an infatuated press treated him like Bo Derek running topless on the beach — Ugh!

      I remember cringing.. thinking, “This is a *really* bad omen for the beginning of the next 4 years.”

      • Some men seem to think attractive = bimbo

      • They’re such hypocrites. If Palin threw acid in her face that wouldn’t make them take her more seriously, they’d just ridicule her disfigurement. If she’s pretty, she’s a beauty queen bimbo who should shut up, if she’s not she’s an ugly fat $&@) who should shut up. Same garbage different day. They hated Hillary for being smart, they hate Sarah because supposedly she’s not bright and all about surface, PR, superficial visual appeal–just like Obama!

    • Your response is exactly where they and Obama are at…wearing a burka is the burning feminist issue according to them. Why don’t they try out the burkas if they think they are soo nice in 100+ weather!

  23. How refreshing to read your post, Myiq.

    Posts like these are the reason why the Confluence rocks on…consistently calling out mainstream corporate media bs, be it misogyny, misremembering recent history, or pure unadulterated racism.

    Amen to all the comments…not often am I at a loss for words, but I can’t think of anything to add.

  24. Sarah Palin is one of the most vile personalities in American politics. She practiced character assassination of Barack Obama during the campaign to a degree heretofore unseen in American politics. And now conservatives are complaining that this kind of criticism of her is out of bounds? Does anyone remember the slurs against community organizers? Or of Muslims in general? Or accusing Obama of “palling around with terrorists”? Oh that’s right, the gang at the Confluence went along with every single one! You have ZERO credibility on the issue of “legitimate” criticism because you are still nothing but a bunch of (obama) haters who go out of their way to defend a Republican governor that hates you.

    • Put down the Kool-aid and step away from the punch bowl.

      Obama has no character to “assassinate” and telling the truth isn’t a crime.

      She didn’t slur community organizers, she said that being a mayor was being a real one. She didn’t slur Muslims, and Obama did pall around with a self-admitted domestic terrorist named Bill Ayers.

      Go back to David Axelrod and get some new talking points.

      • mogh1 doesn’t seem to be having much luck with it’s anger management classes.

        • Let no one rest while vote runners for the Daley machine uh I mean community organizers are being slurred. With their sad history of oppression unparalleled in human history, when the chronicle of this time is written this will be no laughing matter.

      • Actually two terrorists. Don’t forget Bernadine Dohrn. She was way worse than Ayers.

        • They also forget that Ayers’ first girl friend was blown to bits and that he dedicated his manifesto to Robert Kennedy’s assassin and no I wouldn’t have lunch with Ayers. Even Tweety Bird complained of working at the capitol when one of the bombs went off when he interviewed Ayers to calm things down. I guess he was thinking he was pretty lucky to have come out of that alive.

      • Palin did have the most cogent description of Obama:
        “two memoirs and not a single piece of legislation”. That single truthful sentence said it all.

    • What mogh1 lacks in accuracy and logic, it more than makes up for in anger.

    • But obama *was* paling with terrorists (forget Ayers?)

      • And don’t forget about Bernadette Dorn, making the Palin’s use of the plural form perfectly legitimate.

        • Ah yes, Dorn. If I remember correctly, she was quite complimentary of the Manson family and their murders back in the day.

    • Wow dude, you’ve got some serious delusion going on there. That must be some good stuff you’re drinking. It’s like you were at a completely different campaign. And such hate. Wow, I can feel it coming off of you.

      You know, when a dog is really nasty and bites and is always angry, that often is a reflection of the owner. And similarly when a kid is a horrible bully, that’s often a reflection of the parent. I’m thinking all of this intense hate and anger is a reflection of the leader they love and follow. Their parent or owner of a sort.

      Very sad.

    • Slurs? What she said was: “I guess a small-town mayor is sort of like a ‘community organizer,’ except that you have actual responsibilities”. Exactly *how* is that a “slur”?
      You guys sure are thin-skinned when you can’t hide behind your “Sarah Palin is a ****”
      t-shirts! I don’t recall her saying *anything* about Muslims…and as for the palling around with terrorists comment, Bernadine Dohrn was convicted of aggravated battery as a result of her terrorist activities (which is why she is still not licensed to practice law – her application was denied by the Illinois Bar Ethics Committee). Bill Ayers was acquitted, but pronounced himself “guilty as hell” afterwards. They’re both pals of Obama, so I don’t see what possible objection you could have to *that*.

      I opposed Obama because:

      1) He was a right-wing corporate candidate who co-opted, split, and pretty much destroyed progressive politics in this country

      2) His resume’ was so thin I wouldn’t hire him to manage a Dairy Queen, much less the Executive Branch

      3) His flip-flops on public financing and telecom immunity indicated to me that he was an unprincipled, self-aggrandizing hack with no respect for the Constitution, civil liberties, or even his own supporters

      4) He ran a contemptible, misogynistic, and utterly dishonest campaign.

      • As I recall, Obama’s minions made plenty of slurs against small town mayors, but those ranks include very few Ivy League legacies looking for putative summer jobs, so they deserve the ridicule.

    • Let’s see now: Sarah Palin “practiced character assassination of Barack Obama during the campaign to a degree heretofore unseen in American politics.”

      Apparently mogh1 is not familiar with Joe McCarthy, Richard Nixon, and numerous other evil politicians and political operatives. Um…does the name Karl Rove ring a bell?

    • lol – the avatar really does fit this person, as full derangement syndrome seems apparent:

      Blue in the face, sputtering lies about OT, & Palin (and the horns on the avatar also seems appropriate).

      ok, enough reading stuff by Palin&Clinton haters…. time for zzzzzzzz

  25. http://thenewagenda.net/2009/06/09/if-you-encourage-sexism-are-you-sexist/

    From the comments section:

    “Puma for Life on June 9th, 2009 8:52 pm
    The comments by Letterman about Palin and especially her 14 year old daughter are outrageous. Does TNA plan a response?

    Amy Siskind on June 9th, 2009 9:12 pm
    We are discussing that now. What would you suggest?”

    • I would suggest outrage

    • Perhaps I took Ms Siskind’s statement wrong:

      “Amy Siskind on June 9th, 2009 9:12 pm
      We are discussing that now. What would you suggest?”

      However, as I took it, it left me cold! What is TNA’s stated purpose? “dedicated to improving the lives of women and girls”

      I feel that, as the TNA leader, she should already be taking vociferous action in every venue possible. As should we all.

      I single out Ms. Siskind because she seemingly has more clout, more recognition, and more of a “bully pulpit” than most of us do.

      If such is true, I feel that she should have immediately begun using said advantages to counter these misogynist insults, rather than asking readers for advice.

      Such seems to suggest a surprising timidity!….If I am wrong, I apologize.

      • Have you seen the latest post at TNA that deals specifically with this?

        • No, I had not, until just now. Thanks for the referral.

          My response was directed, as stated, to the previous link, and Ms Siskind’s response.

          I stand by my comment based on the factors in play at the time.

          Sorry if anyone found them offensive, that was not the intent.

          Again, as stated at the time, I found her respose unimpressive, and felt she should be taking a lead in doing more. I am pleased that she did.

        • Just as a point of interest myiq: After reading your excellent commentary, and before posting here. I followed the aforementioned link and made the following comment at TNA:

          “Just Me on Your comment is awaiting moderation. June 10th, 2009 1:56 am
          Ms. Siskind, per this comment:

          Amy Siskind on June 9th, 2009 9:12 pm
          We are discussing that now. What would you suggest?

          I find it hard to believe that you must ask such a question. What are the tenets of TNA?

          It would seem to me that you should be leading a charge to attack /confront such diatribe in any and every way possible, especially in the most visible forums and media sites/venues possible.

          You have credibility and access, use it! Where or when could TNA’s voice be more important than here and now?”

          Please note that said comment went to moderation, and remains in moderation, while other comments in same time frame were allowed.

          I assume it will not appear.

          Apparently I offended Ms. Siskind, though that was not my intent. My statement was an honest reaction to what I felt was an inadequte response to the question posed to Ms. Siskind.

  26. Apparently things have gotten so bad over at Shakesville that Melissa E. took a break.

    • Wasn’t that her site originally? She’s been driven off her own page?

      • Didn’t that almost also happen to Alegre’s site last year (by A.S.)?
        Kind of bizarre!

    • well, I certainly understand drama fatigue, I’m completely glad we appear to be a drama free zone for the moment

    • This is the second place I’ve read about drama at Shakesville (there’s a surprise…not), so I broke down and went and looked. Makes me wish I had left that place sooner so that I won’t forever be associated with yet another drama-mama moment over there.

      • Roger that. Shakesville used to be my favorite blog — particularly the Sexism/Derangement Watches during the election. If you looked at the “all in!” comment thread you’ll see why it’s now off my list.

        • The longer that thread goes on, the more I’m reminded of the reasons I left.

          I’m feeling almost homeless on the internet anymore. Shakesville is full of fluffy-bunnies. I’ve dumped Twisty since she called someone a “cuntalina”. Too many blogs that claim to be “feminist” have been over-run by people pushing other agendas. I even tried a triumphal return to DU…took all of 20 minutes to remember why I left.

          Where is a rad-fem to go these days. *dramatic sigh*

  27. Sarah Palin has begun to get on the nerves of Republican senators who say the former GOP vice presidential nominee is taking her own White House aspirations entirely too seriously.

    Bastards. As far as they are concerned, she’s supposed to fund raise like crazy for them and then get out of the way . I maintain she was given the VP because they knew McCain would not win and they didn’t want to taint one of the boys with the loss.

    • LOL That’s a new one. I guess you’re supposed to conduct a Presidential campaign lightly, like a slumber party or campfire singalong.

    • I don’t half believe this. I think it’s a charade….. a decoy…. and the MSM talkers are buying into it. Hook, line and sinker.

      They really think the GOP doesn’t like their star performers???

      Those MSM talkers will be soooooo surprised when they see that Palin/Gingrich ticket in 2012. They will shit their drawers….. and then the tingle will go down their legs….

  28. Whattaputz!

    • These sorts of jokes (and the ones directed at the Clinton’s for years) are why we finally stopped watching Letterman last year after watching him since the early 1980s. It’s just not worth it.

      He’s such a poor-spirited man…. It was amazing how quickly the stress fell away. I don’t miss him at all.

      • Was he EVER funny?

        • Many, many years ago, David Letterman had a morning show. It was at 11AM. I thought he was funny then. I don’t know if I’ve changed or he has, but I don’t find him funny at all anymore. I haven’t watched him in years. He is a mean-spirited man who enjoys mocking people who are powerless or otherwise easy targets.

  29. After having slept on it, I find that I am MORE pissed off by Letterman’s “joke” re Willow Palin.

    So, I wrote a very pointed letter of complaint to CBS.

    Here is the addy: cbsmailbag@aol.com

    And to expand on my comment in agreement with Honora that this is worse than what Imus said, here’s one reason why:

    Letterman’s attack was premeditated. This material would have been written, approved, most likely practiced, and then repeated to an international audience. (And NO-ONE involved in this process thought this was inappropriate? Are there no parents on Letterman’s staff?!!)

    Here’s another obvious one:

    The target was a 14-yr old girl, for chrissakes.

    And another obvious one:

    It was based on statutory rape.

    How anyone can let this pass without speaking up is beyond me.

    It takes less than 5 minutes to compose and send a letter of complaint.

    /rant off

    • It is also tacit approval of child molestation, by joking about it and in my humble opinion racist againt A-Rod (who’s last para amor was over 50) in that it places the bi-racial dude as a sex craved nut. The joke was also an insult to New Yorkers because he was saying they would remain seated while this went on. 😯 New Yorkers showed us that they would go into burning building during the 9/11 attacks and it was must insulting to all Americans.

      Finally, Palin went to New York to raise money for a charity for disabled children and that is a good thing and nothing to laugh at.

    • Thanks. Just sent my letter to CBS.

  30. […] at The Confluence sums it up nicely, “What the f*** is wrong with these […]

  31. Heed these words David Letterman: NOT. ON. OUR. WATCH.

    Great Merciful Zeus, you will not get away with calling a sitting Governor “a slutty flight attendant”.

    You will not get away with making jokes about a sitting Governor’s teenage daughter — or ANYONE’S daughter, for that matter — being raped by baseball players in New York.

    You are a vile, disgusting, perverse, leftist of the worst order, David Letterman, on a show that stopped being funny back when we were in high school 15 years ago.

    It is our determined goal to use the platform we have here to encourage everyone who reads this to stand up to David Letterman and CBS in the days ahead so they get the message that the misogynistic and sexist attacks leveled against women like Sarah Palin and Hillary Clinton will no longer be tolerated.

    Please go to

    We are organizing

    • O,

      Good to see a visit from Hillbuzz. I’m not a fan of the shift to the right (to each their own), but I like the integrity you brought to the fight. I hope Obama’s resistance to hope and change for the LGBT community is favorably changing the mood in your favorite haunts.


    • O, thanks for the heads up. I didn’t find any links to CBS etc on Not-on-our-watch.

  32. via TNA:

    The following statements were issued by Gov. Palin and Alaska’s First Gentleman about Letterman’s treatment of their 14-year-old daughter:

    “Any ‘jokes’ about raping my 14-year-old are despicable. Alaskans know it and I believe the rest of the world knows it, too.”

    – Todd Palin

    “Concerning Letterman’s comments about my young daughter (and I doubt he’d ever dare make such comments about anyone else’s daughter): ‘Laughter incited by sexually-perverted comments made by a 62-year-old male celebrity aimed at a 14-year-old girl is not only disgusting, but it reminds us some Hollywood/NY entertainers have a long way to go in understanding what the rest of America understands – that acceptance of inappropriate sexual comments about an underage girl, who could be anyone’s daughter, contribute to the atrociously high rate of sexual exploitation of minors by older men who use and abuse others.’”

    – Governor Sarah Palin

  33. If Sarah Palin is SO silly and irrelevant, why the obsession? Clearly the Left noted her appeal, and are out to eliminate the threat- it’s not like it’s not obvious.

    And she’s been highly successful in life while ignoring the left-wing feminist model… this helps to explain the extra dose of venom in the attacks.

    Of course, the Democrats are plenty afraid of Palin coming-back at them in 2012 with a dynamic and complementary VP like Bobby Jindal… or visa versa.

    And they surely have reason to fear her- Palin is the most popular governor in the country… are all those people idiots? Alaska was a pretty corrupt system until she stepped in. Her reforms took on entrenched politicians (inc. Republicans), a mafioso-style union boss, and Big Oil.

    Wouldn’t it have been nice if Obama had been principled and brave enough to confront the corrupt Chicago Democratic Machine?

    Or shady political operators like Tony Rezko?

    Racist preachers?

    Instead of doing business with every last one of them?

    Go get em, Sarah- and don’t mind the press, nobody will be listening to them anymore after the pending Obamamania implosion- and once the ties of GE and others with media holdings to the Obama administration are fully exposed.

    • You do realize that we are libruls who think Reagan was a disaster for our country?

    • Hey, I”m from Lousiana, and if you’ve ever bothered to read ANYTHING I’ve written about him you’ll realize I think he’s a disaster for us. He’s been nothing but bad news for the state. He’s put in tight ethics laws for EVERYone but his office. He’s always at some fundraiser out of state. He’s bragging he’s lowered state employee rolls and total salaries while the numbers say just the opposite.

      You know, just because we recognize a sexist attack on a woman who holds political office doesn’t mean we’re ready to sign up for theocracy and more trickle up poverty!

      • The one thing I didn’t like about the Reagan economics was the devaluing of working people. If you didn’t have the right jeans or drove a BMW you were not a Reagan American. Also, the prolonged delay on funding AIDS was horrible and cost many their lives…that didn’t even have a trickle in my opinion.

        Also, the 500 + soldiers blown up, was quietly brushed aside when it became apparent that there had been intel about a pending attack but the information was not forwarded. I remember arguing this with my Republican friend who was in the Air Force at the time.

        So, we will call out misogyny without a doubt and for me, at least we knew what Palin was about…even Congressman Conyers is wondering these days about Obama.

  34. Looks like we’re on the side of the angels:


    If Uncle Bob agrees with me, I’m in good company.

  35. Miq — I just wanted to say thank you to somebody from my gen.

    Thank you.

    WTF #3

  36. […] there is this article over at The Confluence,which appears upon a quick perusal to be a left-leaning site that supports Hillary Clinton.  The […]

  37. http://news-briefs.ew.com/2009/06/david-letterman-responds-to-flap-over-sarah-palin-jokes.html

    Taping tonight’s episode of The Late Show, David Letterman took a few minutes to respond to Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, who called him “pathetic” in a radio interview after he made her and her family the butt of a recent Top 10 list. The late-night host had drawn particular fire from Palin and some pundits for a joke about one of Palin’s daughters being impregnated by New York Yankees star Alex Rodriguez during a trip to Yankee Stadium. Camp Palin apparently took the joke to be a crack against Palin’s 14-year-old daughter Willow, who had recently attended a Yankees game, but Letterman insisted today that the real target was 18-year-old daughter Bristol.

    “We were, as we often do, making jokes about people in the news and we made some jokes about Sarah Palin and her daughter [Bristol]… and now they’re upset with me…” Letterman says on tonight’s show. “These are not jokes made about her 14-year-old daughter. I would never, never make jokes about raping or having sex of any description with a 14-year-old girl…. Am I guilty of poor taste? Yes. Did I suggest that it was okay for her 14-year-old daughter to be having promiscuous sex? No.” Saying he hopes he’s “cleared part of this up,” Letterman extended an invitation to Palin to come on the show as a guest.

    Not. Good. Enough. Asshole.

  38. http://videoguide.msn.com/play/movies/?g=772beb71-f9e9-4176-83d8-bbc8cac6792f

    Contessa Brewer, apparently, didn’t think those comments about Palin were so bad.

    Anyone still watching MSNBC might want to finally start their boycott.

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