A Modest Proposal

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Pips, on April 21, 2009 at 5:19 pm said:

I’ll take this opportunity to get something off my chest:

Rant on

I know, that politics is ‘the art of the possible’.

I know, a politician has to be pragmatic.

I know, that being in politics you can’t be vulnerable or squeamish. Or bear grudges.

I know, that Hillary the politician did, what she saw fit to do to be able to stay relevant in politics.

But that said, I really, really resent seeing her literally taking a backseat to the lesser man.

I hate seeing her standing or sitting behind him, being a ‘servant’ to the less experienced, less knowledgable, less diplomatic, less visionary cheating, fratboy fraud. Who not only had the presidency presented to him, but accepted both that and the fraud that led to it.

So I know, I have no business giving words to feelings on behalf of Hillary, but never the less I do feel humiliated on her behalf, as I do on behalf of every woman and girl, who now instead of having an accompliced female CiC of the US to look up to and admire, as we should have had, can watch yet another accomplished woman ‘mothering’ a (lesser) man.

Rant off
- dakinikat, on April 21, 2009 at 5:23 pm said:
  
  I’m with you all the way on that.
  - bostonboomer, on April 21, 2009 at 6:30 pm said:
    
    Me too.
- Pips, on April 21, 2009 at 5:23 pm said:
  
  … and it’s sad, that most women don’t even know, that they’ve been deprived.
  - myiq2xu, on April 21, 2009 at 5:26 pm said:
    
    Most women?
    
    How about the whole country?
    - fif, on April 21, 2009 at 8:05 pm said:
      
      I love you for that myiq 🙂
    - Pips, on April 22, 2009 at 2:49 am said:
      
      I ment to refer to women and girls all over the world, that have been deprived of seeing a woman rise to the highest office in the world.
      
      I guess men could appreciate it too, but in this instance I was concerned mostly about women and girls!
- myiq2xu, on April 21, 2009 at 5:25 pm said:
  
  Welcome to PUMA
  - Pips, on April 21, 2009 at 5:34 pm said:
    
    Thank you – though as a foreigner I can’t be a PUMA – and I humbly 😳 only consider myself a Conflucian on a guest pass, but that said I’m happy to feel both accepted and welcome here.
    - myiq2xu, on April 21, 2009 at 5:36 pm said:
      
      PUMA is an attitude, not a political party
      - fif, on April 21, 2009 at 8:05 pm said:
        
        absolutely!
      - Pips, on April 22, 2009 at 2:53 am said:
        
        Well that attitude doesn’t help me much, being Danish, living in Denmark, now does it! I haven’t got any influence on American politics. Please don’t “stalk” my comments. 😦
      - Pips, on April 22, 2009 at 2:57 am said:
        
        LOL, I got so riled up, that my avatar changed colour and even “she” started agitating!
    - RalphB, on April 21, 2009 at 6:54 pm said:
      
      Welcome PUMA!
- Joanelle, on April 21, 2009 at 5:36 pm said:
  
  Pips, don’t hold back!
  
  I will never, never, ever forget how we were cheated of the first female president and how the law was subverted to accommodate an ill prepared, underhanded person to represent this country – we needed someone who could rebuild not someone who can continue to tear down.
  
  I’m sick at heart about it. 😦
  - myiq2xu, on April 21, 2009 at 5:41 pm said:
    
    My support of Hillary had next to nothing to do with her gender.
    
    My opposition to Obama had less than nothing to do with his race.
    - fif, on April 21, 2009 at 8:09 pm said:
      
      You are ON tonight myiq! Again, hear hear!
- Janis, on April 21, 2009 at 5:45 pm said:
  
  Pips, I watched a friend of mine who had her career torn to shreds by sexism over 15 slow, painful years because she was female, “everyone thought” she was intimidating, and they promoted a lesser man over her, whom she had hired.
  
  She finally quit, got out of the workforce altogether, and is now a combination student and SAHW.
  
  She voted for Barky because, as she chirpily informed me, she had “nothing in common” with Hillary Clinton.
  
  I will never forget nor forgive her for subjecting me to FIFTEEN FUCKING YEARS of WHINING for something that she flushed the minute she had the chance to put some muscle behind it. I never want to so much as make eye contact with her again. YEARS of whining, “I’m so depressed, poor me,” and “aren’t men awful,” and then she turns around and blows it all off when the time comes to stand the fuck up over it.
  - Puma-SF, on April 21, 2009 at 6:12 pm said:
    
    I don’t understand a woman who could do this after going through it herself for 15 years. It’s f@#king pathetic.
    - Janis, on April 21, 2009 at 7:05 pm said:
      
      It became clear to me after a while that none of it mattered as much to her as she said it did. She whined over her job woes because she wanted to appear more enlightened than whining over her hair, weight, or nails.
      
      Fifteen years of it. Jesus Christ. I take NO ONE at their word anymore, on anything. Show me, or STFU.
  - Downticket, on April 21, 2009 at 6:46 pm said:
    
    So what did she have in common with Obama and not Hillary since it was often repeated that they had the same policies. I can’t believe people believed that lie.
    - Janis, on April 21, 2009 at 7:04 pm said:
      
      She was anxious to prove how empowered she was by NOT picking up power when it was held in front of her. Girls are so empowered nowdays that we don’t even NEED power anymore! *giggle*
- scrubs57, on April 21, 2009 at 7:11 pm said:
  
  I agree wholeheartedly with your rant.
- Honora, on April 21, 2009 at 7:18 pm said:
  
  Welcome to the club.
- fif, on April 21, 2009 at 8:04 pm said:
  
  I know…it makes me sad and I cringe every time I see her with him too. It’s so wrong that she is not setting policy and making principled stands while he waffles his way around the world, stumbling and bumbling. Having said that, I really do think she sees herself as a public servant, and that this was the opportunity that presented itself for her to be of value to the country. Imagine his foreign policy without her, Jones and Biden! It would have no muscle at all. He’d be shooting hoops with Ahmydinnerjacket.
- EricaLeigh, on April 22, 2009 at 12:44 am said:
  
  You captured my gut reaction to the travesty of the DNC and the stealing of the presidency yet again.
  
  It is the most galling situation, isn’t it Pips?
- staunchwoman, on April 22, 2009 at 8:08 am said:
  
  I am SO with you. And I’ll never “get over it”. Never.
fuzzybeargville, on April 21, 2009 at 5:36 pm said:

Hello all Fuzzy his here to spread love and happiness…I have heard through the grapevine some folks who have my cell # have had a time reaching me well it is because about 4 weeks ago I washed the silly thing…at my laundramat.

$ 1500.00 in car repairs have made replacement a little tough for me lately but I should have it back in ops thursday if I find my sim card!

I have been a little depressed lately so forgive my absence it has had nothing to do with you here at the confluence. I love you all.

I also have been busy with things that I have been putting off and now have climbed up the priority ladder.

Also May 1st marks the eith anniversary of Douglas passing I get melancolia every year at this time…

Specially since I am far from where I laid him to rest in the christ church chapel in Pensacola…

I guess I have missed alot here sorry I have been letting my PUMA spirit slide…

I usually recover around mid May so just be patient with me I get real emotional at this time of year…
- myiq2xu, on April 21, 2009 at 5:37 pm said:
  
  We love you too Fuzzy
- Cinie, on April 21, 2009 at 5:38 pm said:
  
  Hugs and love to you, Fuzzy.
- Joanelle, on April 21, 2009 at 5:39 pm said:
  
  Missed you Fuzzy.
  
  My son did the same thing with his cell – he thought it was dead – but good old mom came to the rescue and opened it all up and just let it sit on the counter in the kitchen where it totally dried out and voila – it is fine!
- dakinikat, on April 21, 2009 at 5:47 pm said:
  
  ah, so understandable, we’re here with hugs and smiles when you need us!
- Pips, on April 21, 2009 at 5:51 pm said:
  
  I thought of you the other day.
  
  John Waters is in town (Copenhagen) and in connection with that, I saw a clip from one of his stand-up shows. Thanks to you I knew, what he was referring to, when he mentioned Bears!
  
  You not only taught me, you’ve made me cringe and blush and giggle.
  
  The Confluence is so educational, LOL.
  
  Always love your presence!
- bostonboomer, on April 21, 2009 at 6:33 pm said:
  
  {{{Fuzzy}}}
  
  Those anniversaries can be really hard. Just know that you are loved.
- alice, on April 21, 2009 at 6:39 pm said:
  
  Ah, so sorry to hear this. Be kind to yourself.
- scrubs57, on April 21, 2009 at 7:13 pm said:
  
  Big hug, brother.
- fif, on April 21, 2009 at 8:15 pm said:
  
  ((((((fuzzy)))))
- Woman Voter, on April 21, 2009 at 9:59 pm said:
  
  Fuzzy,
  It will be brighter soon {{{hug}}}
Joanelle, on April 21, 2009 at 5:40 pm said:

ooo-ooo less than 30,000 hits til we hit 6,000,000!!! Whoo, hooo! 😆
- myiq2xu, on April 21, 2009 at 5:43 pm said:
  
  I’m predicting Friday @ 9:31 am EST
fuzzybeargville, on April 21, 2009 at 5:52 pm said:

thanks I just wanted to keep the record correct about me…

I posted the above an all my other hang outs so that every one would know this is my tuff time of year
- myiq2xu, on April 21, 2009 at 5:59 pm said:
  
  I hope to Koresh the record about me is never correct.
  - RedDragon62, on April 21, 2009 at 6:32 pm said:
    
    Myiq:
    
    On the same theme of “Eating the rich.” I thought you may find this interesting. I wrote something on my site about it and thought you might expound on it. This is something that has been hidden far too long.
    
    http://www.alternet.org/audits/136877/dubai%27s_lesson_to_america%3A_how_the_middle_east%27s_shangrai_la_became_a_hell_on_earth/?page=1
Downticket, on April 21, 2009 at 6:00 pm said:

Thought I would post this for anyone that might be thinking of taking their daughter to an all girls school.

The National Coalition of girls schools
http://www.ncgs.org/
- Honora, on April 21, 2009 at 7:28 pm said:
  
  You know Downticket, my daughters go to an all-girls school. One did great, but the other would have done better in a co-ed setting. In a perfect world the girls schools would teach everything, but at our the girls school focuses more on english and history and the boys school (across the street, where my son goes) does more math and science. They say that they work to their students strengths and I get that , but they can be limiting if your child is not ‘typical;’.
  
  I do think that having the girls ‘run’ the school and run for office, etc. is great. I have found it to be a mixed blessing.
  - Joanelle, on April 21, 2009 at 9:13 pm said:
    
    I went to an all-girls high school and thank God for it – I discovered myself and developed confidence in who I really am – I know that today I owe a great deal to that all girls education.
    - Laurie, on April 22, 2009 at 3:07 am said:
      
      I did too. It also made big investments in science labs, language labs, and sports.
      I can’t imagine going to a mixed school with adolescent boys making fun of you, and putting you down. We were very proud of ourselves, and so were our teachers.
Pips, on April 21, 2009 at 6:01 pm said:

Did you hear about the Swedish Pirate Bay court case?

After the verdict Friday, where 4 youths were accused of and received rather harsh sentences (to pay 3 mill. Swedish kroner plus 1 year in prison each) for ‘assisting in making copyright content available’ on the internet, the Pirate Bay Party has gained so many new members, that it is now the fourth biggest political party in Sweden!

If necessary they’ll appeal their case all the way to the EU court. Should be interesting.
- DandyTiger, on April 21, 2009 at 6:06 pm said:
  
  This is a very interesting case. And let me tell you, Google will be watching the case very closely since most of the ruling could be the very same for what Google does with youtube among other things they sort of share or facilitate being shared.
- Downticket, on April 21, 2009 at 6:43 pm said:
  
  That is interesting. Three million is too much money. Can they aford to pay it?
DandyTiger, on April 21, 2009 at 6:04 pm said:

Hey hey hey, eating them was my idea. Now Aerosmith is copying me. Wait, what do you mean they did that song before. Poop.

Yep, eat the bankers, the wall street types, and the rest of the greedy obscene rich. They’re not safe to remain uneaten. 🙂
- Fredster, on April 22, 2009 at 2:02 am said:
  
  What do they taste like? Chicken?
  
  Can you fry ’em up? Oh hell, I’m in the South, We can fry anything.
fuzzybeargville, on April 21, 2009 at 6:11 pm said:

I bet you are right Myiq2xu!
fuzzybeargville, on April 21, 2009 at 6:15 pm said:

I think eating the rich woiuld constitute a form of the Atkins Diet….

not very healthy to eat the rich I mean you could chip a tooth on one of the cosmetic inplants! and all the youth factor hormones you could put yourself through puberty again!
- chatblu, on April 21, 2009 at 6:21 pm said:
  
  I dunno. Does Medicare cover acne therapy??
  - fuzzybeargville, on April 21, 2009 at 6:26 pm said:
    
    dont know if you wnet through puberty agian you could loose your medicare and social security!
  - myiq2xu, on April 21, 2009 at 6:26 pm said:
    
    That reminds me of when my mom got some cream that was supposed to give her the skin of a teenager
    
    She said it gave her pimples.
    - Cinie, on April 21, 2009 at 6:52 pm said:
      
      “Come cream?”
      - myiq2xu, on April 21, 2009 at 6:57 pm said:
        
        Check again, I fixed the typo
      - Cinie, on April 21, 2009 at 7:08 pm said:
        
        Some do recommend it, you know, as a skin conditioner. I just didn’t know you could buy it in a jar. Or, a store.
      - myiq2xu, on April 21, 2009 at 7:12 pm said:
        
        It usually comes from a tube
- bostonboomer, on April 21, 2009 at 6:35 pm said:
  
  Lots of protein and fat?
  - bostonboomer, on April 21, 2009 at 6:36 pm said:
    
    Actually, I think we should send the rich to forced labor camps.
    - myiq2xu, on April 21, 2009 at 6:53 pm said:
      
      That would be a new experience for them
katiebird, on April 21, 2009 at 6:46 pm said:

myiq2xu,

I feel an overwhelming urge to tell you how much I’m enjoying this post. And how glad I am that you posted it. (Great video choice too). And that your comments are very amusing!
- myiq2xu, on April 21, 2009 at 6:50 pm said:
  
  You’re still not getting a raise
  - katiebird, on April 21, 2009 at 6:53 pm said:
    
    Oh, SNAP
    - scrubs57, on April 21, 2009 at 7:15 pm said:
      
      Nice try, KB.
      - myiq2xu, on April 21, 2009 at 7:25 pm said:
        
        I give up – we’re quadrupaling your salary.
        
        Along with mine
RalphB, on April 21, 2009 at 6:52 pm said:

I hope this gets televised someplace.

WASHINGTON — Former U.S. presidents Bill Clinton and George W. Bush will appear together in Toronto next month on a public stage for the first time since Mr. Bush ended his presidency, in a remarkable twist on the cultural cold war that Barack Obama and others are trying to lay to rest.

The two will be appearing at the Metro Toronto Convention Centre on May 29 for a moderated “conversation” that is expected to last about two hours.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20090420.wibbitson21/BNStory/International/home
- fuzzybeargville, on April 21, 2009 at 7:05 pm said:
  
  Rumor has it that clinton is donating his appearance fee to planned parenthood and at the end of the conversation will thank the former usurper in chief for helping out the choice movement!
  - RalphB, on April 21, 2009 at 7:11 pm said:
    
    Would be karmic since W’s grandparents were among the original founders of Planned Parenthood. 🙂
    - myiq2xu, on April 21, 2009 at 7:14 pm said:
      
      Too bad they didn’t plan better
      - RalphB, on April 21, 2009 at 7:32 pm said:
        
        Heh, you got a point
    - Downticket, on April 21, 2009 at 7:17 pm said:
      
      That was before it became pro-choice. Interesting. Why did it change from anti-choice to pro-choice?
      - Janis, on April 21, 2009 at 7:21 pm said:
        
        Um, at a first guess, because “whoops the condom broke” isn’t exactly planned?
      - RalphB, on April 21, 2009 at 7:34 pm said:
        
        Was planned parenthood ever not pro-choice? Or can’t we give the ancestors of people we hate any respect now?
- Nicole, on April 21, 2009 at 7:35 pm said:
  
  Thanks for that info (I live in Toronto)…I just booked a ticket!
  - fif, on April 21, 2009 at 8:25 pm said:
    
    Nicole: make sure you come here and give us a first person account afterward!
- fif, on April 21, 2009 at 8:23 pm said:
  
  oooh that will be interesting. I love it when Bill sneaks in those PUMA comments.
fuzzybeargville, on April 21, 2009 at 7:03 pm said:

it is off to dinner with the obots wish me luck!
- scrubs57, on April 21, 2009 at 7:16 pm said:
  
  Good luck, fuzzy!
- bostonboomer, on April 21, 2009 at 8:28 pm said:
  
  Stand your ground Fuzzy!
chimera, on April 21, 2009 at 7:09 pm said:

It’s been a bad Obama-news day. When isn’t it? But there are few issues on my mind, and I hope I am not too OT. First is that there are gay people being killed in Iraq while the US is occupying it. http://polis.house.gov/News/DocumentSingle.aspx?DocumentID=122035
Second is that the SCOTUS just ruled against veterans, and a WWII was denied VA benefits b/c he could not absolutely prove that an injury was service related. Souter, Ginsburg and Stevens were the dissenters, natch. But it was Obama’s sec’y of VA who went forward on this case. Shame on them.
The rich don’t care who dies, and neither does the Obama admin (if there is in fact any difference between them).
chimera, on April 21, 2009 at 7:10 pm said:

On the upside, this from The Nation: http://www.thenation.com/doc/20090504/klein
A Lexicon of Disappointment. Very funny and very true.
- fif, on April 21, 2009 at 8:49 pm said:
  
  It’s just amazing that this is “news” to them. We all knew this a year ago, now they are so surprised, like it’s some kind of revelation.
  - Kat5, on April 21, 2009 at 9:55 pm said:
    
    Some people apparently have a much, much higher tolerance for suckering themselves.
myiq2xu, on April 21, 2009 at 7:28 pm said:

Okay, explain this to me – Cannonfire responds to a post by me, and he gets listed on Memorandum but we don’t.

It’s a conspiracy!!
- Nicole, on April 21, 2009 at 7:37 pm said:
  
  Maybe there a little spooked by you-know-who.
  - Nicole, on April 21, 2009 at 7:38 pm said:
    
    Should be “they’re” !
  - myiq2xu, on April 21, 2009 at 8:08 pm said:
    
    Well they should be.
    
    I am
- bostonboomer, on April 21, 2009 at 8:29 pm said:
  
  He’s been on there a lot lately. I think you can sign up there if you really want to get noticed by them.
bostonboomer, on April 21, 2009 at 8:24 pm said:

New post up.
Woman Voter, on April 21, 2009 at 10:03 pm said:

Flight of the Conchords – Cheer Up, Murray Ep 11

…
A funny teary clip for the open thingie.
Nijma, on April 22, 2009 at 2:38 am said:

Has anyone ever heard of “Travel for Peace”? They do trips to concentration camps for teenagers. I put their website in my URL.

Are concentration camps a little heavy for 10th graders? Someone’s daughter is going and he’s concerned.
- bostonboomer, on April 22, 2009 at 7:42 am said:
  
  I learned about concentration camps in school as the horrors were coming out. I was much younger than tenth grade. Kids are a lot smarter and wiser than most adults realize.
Pips, on April 22, 2009 at 3:30 am said:

“Are concentration camps a little heavy for 10th graders?”

I wouldn’t think so, if they are thoroughly prepared before going. But it is very emotional.
- Nijma, on April 22, 2009 at 4:05 am said:
  
  That’s reassuring, thank you. I’ve never been.
  - Pips, on April 22, 2009 at 7:00 am said:
    
    And Nijma, if you are still here. No one should be forced to go, and any one should be allowed to leave if it becomes too much. But I actually think, that it will help them put many things/thoughts into perspective.
    
    I would recommend (to everyone, actually) reading Primo Levi’s “If this is a Man” – to me the ultimate book about that subject.
    
    Levi eventually (maybe) killed himself, because (maybe) he couldn’t live with the guilt of having survived, when so many died.
DancingOpossum, on April 22, 2009 at 9:46 am said:

Everyone forgets the riposte to Fitzgerald’s famous line about the rich — which Fitgerald said longingly, he was a desperate wannabe — anyway, when he said that line to Ernest Hemingway, Hemingway scoffed and snapped “Yeah — they have more money.” LOL…

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