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There must be something in the Kool-aid over at MyDD, cuz Chuckie Lemos isn’t the only one that’s a few french fries short of a Happy Meal.  From Todd Beeton:

A new Gallup poll taken the day of and the two days following President Obama’s first address to a joint session of Congress on Tuesday, finds the President’s approval rating has jumped up 8 points to 67% and his disapproval has dropped 4 points to 21% from the prior 3-day period. Obama’s term-high approval rating was 69% just after his inauguration.

While Todd is having an obagasm over an alleged 8 point jump in Teh Precious’ approval rating, he glosses over the part that shows Obama has dropped two points in just one month.  At that rate Obama will be under 50% by Christmas.  He also ignores the fact that the poll shows that Obama’s “support” is extremely volatile.

Personally, I don’t pay much attention to polls at any time, but right now they are meaningless.  Obama’s approval rating won’t matter until the November 2010 mid-term election, and even then they aren’t an indicator of what will happen in 2012.  At the two-year mark George H. W. Bush had a 90% approval rating but he lost when he ran for reelection.  Bill Clinton’s approval rating was low in 1994 but he was reelected in 1996.

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  1. My Hilldogs / Pumacats and I have a $50.00 pool going. We all predicted what the Gallup Poll will be January 21st, 2010. Whomever wins takes the others out for dinner. My number is 45% — I am hoping for lower !!

  2. I just burst into giggles on this one …

  3. As long as this unsubstantiated adoration of Obama continues, there isn’t an ounce of credibility in any poll.

    • Amen. On the day when polls begin to reflect substance driven opinion, as opposed to freefloating emotion fueled by media adoration and disinformation, maybe they’ll be worth a grain of salt. But only if the poll designs don’t contain bias. Not holding my breath on this one.

  4. Sure, use common sense! Obots will always have their commemorative plates and puppy clippings to hold on to. For 4 years it was all a magical dream of arugala and glossy mag puff pieces.

  5. Obama was also consistently polling high during the primaries – and then often lost. Even KO admitted after NH that the main issues in that state were 1) uncommitted and 2) not solidly committed to BO. These peoplegave Barky the edge before the election, but on election day they buried him. These current polls are obviously not taking into account just how committed everyone is to their “approval” of the Lightbringer. As myiq says: we’ll really know about Barky’s approval ratings in November 2010 and 2012.

    • Considering Obama’s true history, it will be interesting to see what he’s doing in 2010. Trend says he will be in pursuit of his next goal by then.

      Watch how impatiently he is trying to fit his first term into the opening 2 months…that first speech with the giant flag, VP and SOH behind him and all of congress in front really shouldn’t have happened until next January. First trip to Camp David was weekend #1 after inauguration. I’m sure the first State Dinner would have happened this weekend if he could have found a foreign leader who would accept an invitation. This guy is going to be massively bored in this job by June….especially if anything doesn’t get positive press.

  6. I read the spanish daily El Pais regularly, and today there are two stories that point blank say that part of Obama’s budget is the creation of universal health care. They praise him for finally joining the rest of the industrialized world and providing health care to all americans. Is the foreign press so badly informed, or are they just part of the propaganda machine? What they are writing is just not true. Have any of you in other countries noticed the same thing?

    • Gary, there is lots of adoration down here in Oz but nothing I have seen lately suggests that particular lie has wafted down here.

      I would not be surprised, though, to see it show up one of these days. Australians have real UHC, so they may actually see through any bullshit about it.

    • I just checked il manifesto (far left)and Corriere della Sera(center-left), and both seem to think that Obama is going to tax the rich to get health care for those who don’t have it.
      Corriere della Sera-( headline)-Obama: «Più tasse per i ricchi
      E l’assistenza sanitaria sarà per tutti»
      Il presidente americano: «Impegno storico per riformare la sanità»

      translation: Obama:”More taxes for the rich, and health care will be for all”. The American President: “Historic pledge to reform health care”.

      il manifesto-L’ERA DI BARACK . Nel primo discorso al Congresso riforma sanitaria ed energia i punti forti, ma sull’economia resta vago
      Il dottor Obama prescrive ottimismo

      translation: In his first speech before Congress strong points were energy and health care reform, but the economy remains vague.
      Doctor Obama prescribes optimism.

      • Just wanted to add that the Italian press has a tradition of not criticising newly elected US Presidents-at least for the first 6 months or until they start a war.

  7. I am in Canada and for a while the Canadian press were reporting right up the middle and fairly on Obama…soon enough that stopped. They aren’t quite as fawning and ridiculous as the U.S. press but, they just stay silent on certain issues that might “offend” too even if there is something there quite serious to report on.

    After NAFTAgate broke here certain calls were made, certain meetings held with the CBC, Global and the other major players here. The cover of McClean’s showed the Obama’s with an accompanying fluff piece. I don’t think the Canadian media are in love with Obama but, they’ve chosen to run these rather benign, *don’t point a finger at us for telling the truth* fluffy feel goody articles lately.

    It’s not quite the “Tiger Beat” the U.S.media have become but, it’s not investigative, feet to the fire accountability either.

    It’s a shameful turn around from the way they started with more honest reporting here…more pap.

  8. It’s ridiculous.

    • Yeah, obot dad is fine with it even though the war was his issue, supposedly. And he keeps saying he said in the campaign he was going to ramp up Afghanistan, which I assume is the new talking point, so, yeah. Anti-war, no. Anti-consistency–you betcha.

  9. Now they’re stuck with defending it.

    • And many of them didn’t even vote for him but against Hillary, making up positions they wish he had to avoid examining why they felt quite so strongly negative about her. Now they’re stuck trying to justify their fantasy, because admitting how much they screwed up and why doesn’t jibe with how they want to think about themselves–the enlightened, the high information, the elect

  10. oops… “NOW they’re stuck…”

  11. I just got back from Barnes and Noble. It was impossible to find anywhere in the store without huge pictures of Barack Obama everywhere. Big coffee table books of photos, and every other kind of book and magazine cover–nothing but Obama everywhere. Even the remainder piles had Obama books in them. He is seriously overexposed.

    • Any complimentary barf bags provided?

    • You know, all that crap is gonna make the fall from grace that much worse when it happens.

    • Gaaahhhhck, BB. One more reason to love Half Price Books stores – nary a sign of Barkyaganda in them to date. How long before a lot of this overexposure hits the landfills?

      • I wonder if they have cookbooks and diet books with their pictures on them too. I didn’t look.

        • Based on the daily Obama feature story today, expect the next release to be a fitness of book showing MO getting those finely toned arms they are so fascinated with.

          Personally, I expect she uses BO as her human dumbell.

    • I’m so sorry for your experience, bb. Check out Heidi Li’s Potpourri. She has a good use of an Obama image.

      • I can’t believe the NY Times put out a huge coffee table book on the Obamas. Now I know why the media rooted for him. They are were hoping to make money from all the books and videos on the “historic” election.

        • Correcto. I finally got that after the inauguration when I looked around and noticed the media blitz on commenortives. Even the WSJ and Fox were out there hawking the O brand for bucks. Maybe it is the only thing the press can make money on anymore since they sold their journalistic souls for eight pieces of shiese. I bet Meechelle is pissed that she is not getting a cut.

  12. Why do you even go to MyDD? are you a masochist? I keep asking my sister the same thing about CNN. I, personally, would prefer to endure Chinese water torture.

  13. Even Krugman praised his new budget yesterday. This was after being critical of it on Charlie Rose a few nights ago.

    I wonder how much pressure there is on him to push Obama. I would really love to know what goes on behind the scenes. Are these people (Krugman, other liberals critiquing O) offered money? Are they threatened with losing jobs? Did Krugman just do an about face because he changed his mind?

    Isn’t there any way to find out what goes on in the back rooms of NYTimes, of TV stations?

    • Krugman has been fighting the good fight for a long, lonely time now. Lately, he sometimes seems to be resigning himself to acceptance of crumbs, perhaps out of sheer fatigue.

  14. Why do you even go to MyDD?

    Somebody has to keep an eye on the sippy-kup kidz.

  15. Even Krugman praised his new budget yesterday.

    I’m not gonna bash Obama just because he’s Obama. If he does something good I’ll say so.

    So far on my “props” list is:

    1. Appointed Hillary as SoS

    2. ((crickets))

    • Some of the proposed changes for student aid in the budget are good, if they pass Congress. He wants to get rid of the private companies that do student loans–that ads to the cost. And he proposed big increases in Pell Grants. But the problem is that everything is financed with more debt.

    • Michelle’s biceps of steel? Providing hope to fellow sufferers of jug earism that they can live normal lives?

  16. I also don’t understand this.

    My ObotBF is telling me that business channels, stock market, even Kramer, are angry at O because his budget is so bad for insurance companies, Bigpharma, that he’s overturning all the Reagan changes.

    Where? Why don’t I see this? Because if he is doing that, that’s a good thing. But I don’t see it. Like Bill Maher said last night that Obama is ending the war in Iraq. Yes. Yes, he did. And his stupid Obot audience applauded. No mention of 18 months instead of Bush’s old plan of 16 months. Or of how he’s leaving 35 to 50K troops even after all that time.

    I know, I’m a total masochist for watching Maher. But someone really has to keep watch on these idiots.

    All I keep saying is “WTF is going on?”

    • Be prepared for a change of plans when “unforeseen” developments take place.

      unforeseen = violence breaking out when our troops start to withdraw

      • You suppose that maybe the Iraqi’s feel like we are the ones who selected their current gov’t and they need that civil war to rebuild the world they live in?

        It’s never easy getting comfortable in someone else’s house.

        I saw a clip of Obama speaking yesterday where he said our mission in going into Iraq was to unseat Sadam’s regime. He spoke as though he supported that effort (unlike his campaign rhetoric). Funny, the country, and the UN, thought the reason was to locate the WMDs the UN team couldn’t find.

    • The problem is, there is no cohesive “plan” for anything. He has “plans” to make “plans,” and has set aside money for people to use to make the plans he plans to use. The danger is, we don’t have access to his overview, he only gives us hints in bits and pieces, but his “plans” always resemble a coloring book or fill in the blanks kid’s story more than they do an actual blueprint. I think that’s intentional, he doesn’t want to let on where he’s going until we actually get there, in order to minimize opposition. “I’m gonna build you a house,” might be enough to get you to marry a guy, but when he makes you a bird house, or a doll house, he cans always say, “I told you so.”

      • He’s held to nothing specific. He probably watched the GWB bumbling through we must go into Iraq because they are hiding WMDs and preparing to attack us – no, we went into Iraq to oust the horrible Sadam and bring freedom and democracy to the people and we were greeted as liberators – no…and thought to himself, this guy needs to learn to keep his mouth shut until AFTER the results are in.

  17. Oh, I forgot to put in a message for Chuckles:

    (o Y o)


    • myiq: He’s found a new home and he’s naming names he says he knows from writing here. Not screen names, myiq, supposedly real life names. It’s more than a little creepy.

  18. Declaring “I am literally in tears” over the firing of 3,000 employees at computer chip maker Spansion, the company’s former chief executive told the Mercury News on Friday he is returning $403,000 in severance money he got from his recent retirement in hopes it can be used to help the laid-off workers.

    “My heart is broken to see that large amount of great people have been laid off without any severance,” Bertrand Cambou also said in a letter sent Friday to the board of directors of Sunnyvale-based Spansion.

    Now this guy should be working in the Obama administration, he has a sense of doing the right thing. In hard times, this is the kind of leadership that is needed to show those going to hard times, that they matter.

  19. Let’s be fair. The trumpet that O is blowing to raise the taxes of the $250,000 rich has definitely captured the attention of those earners. Dems and the GOP sat on their hands over the last 8 years and watched the rich get really rich as they watched the wages and salaries of those under that bar stagnate or sink. O will get a big plus from the working class for that as is couples with the reductions in FICA and tax rebates for the middle class. However, most of that and more will be swallowed in every state that is scrambling to cover budget deficits and tax revenue shortfalls. I think it is interesting to hear economists talking about a US VAT tax as the next likely thing. I notice that medicare is going to be paying doctors less. That means I will be paying more or simply not going to see a doctor. Many others will do the same. It will not mean much to have health insurance if that insurance doesn’t really cover much.

  20. Speaking of OWar, this shit cannot go on for much longer or we’ll be the enemy to all the Afghan people.

    KABUL (AP) — U.S. deaths in Afghanistan increased threefold during the first two months of 2009 compared with the same period last year, after thousands more troops deployed and commanders ramped up winter operations against an increasingly violent insurgency.

    As troops pour into the country and violence rises, another sobering measure has also increased: More Afghan civilians are dying in U.S. and allied operations than at the hands of the Taliban, according to a count by The Associated Press. In the first two months of the year, U.S., NATO or Afghan forces have killed 100 civilians, while militants have killed 60.

    In the meantime, our own casualties are rising with more troops in the country and greater activity. We really need to get the hell out of there now.

  21. The stuff will hit the fan as soon as Obama starts showing how bored he is with his new job. Michelle wants to be First Lady way more than Obama wants to be President. That is really messed up.

  22. Kathleen Sebelius for HHS Sec.

    President Barack Obama on Saturday asked Kansas Gov. Kathleen Sebelius to be his nominee for Health and Human Services secretary, according to two White House officials.

    • Oh brother. Finally Sebelius gets her pay-back.

      She’s one of the worst speakers in the world. I hope she’s smarter than she sounds.

      What qualifies her for HHS?

      • She appears to be Human and I imagine she’s in reasonably good Health? That’s 2 out of 3 words in the job title. Better than he’s done with nominees like Geithner 🙂

        I still think he should appoint Wesley Snipes to a cabinet position and go for the gold.

        • She probably knows more about the challenges of veterinary care than human health care. If I recall correctly, there are several vaccine producers and pharma companies in Kansas.

          Bet she doesn’t get the job because of some conflict of interest, or mistake with her personal finances. From what I’ve seen of her, she is a threat to human health. When she speaks, she emits rays that paralyze people and put them into comas.

        • Snipes allegedly hit Halle berry in the ear and caused her to go deaf, he should run for senate, I’m sure our guys would welcome him as a hero.

          • Oh really. Damn then Snipes is just another douchebag who abuses women. I’m sure he’d be their hero.

          • Wasn’t Snipes though he’s the most famous one rumored. I think it was Christopher Williams though nobody really’s talking.

  23. myiq: after you look at my comment in moderation please just make it go away. Thanks.

  24. Are there any qualifications needed to be HHS?

  25. New post up.

  26. Kathleen Sebelius has ties to the health insurance industry. So we shall see who she actually works for if she gets the position.

    Our whole health care industry is insane. We will have to transition into something else. Medicare is no longer workable in its present form since it has mostly “high risk” population as its only members which is projected to grow. A reasonably healthy 80 year old still requires more medical care compared to a reasonably healthy 20 year old. Unfortunately, there isn’t enough reasonably healthy 20 years olds paying enough into the system to care for all of the reasonably healthy 80 year olds, let alone covering the cost of the sick 80 year olds.

    The most cost effective care system in this country is the VA system. Don’t say it too loudly, but the VA system is socialized medicine.

    • Military Medicine is basically socialized medicine and I loved it. Yes, there were some problems, but for me it was the easiest, most caring medicine I’ve ever had. The only bad part was that in the military you can’t call in sick. You have to get your dying butt over to medical to be seen, then take your Sick In Quarters (SIQ) chit over to your work site before you could go home, Otherwise it was one of the best systems around as far as I’m concerned.

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