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  1. It was a coin-flip between this and “Zombie Strippers”

  2. Good choice. I much prefer Lesbians over Zombies.

  3. We poor lesbians.

    Actually, there was a review of this on afterellen.com (I think that was the site – might have been Dorothy Snarker) and some of the scenes were thought to be attractive.

  4. myiq, afrocity left? What the heck happened?

  5. Some movies have titles that catch the eye.

    Unfortunately that’s often all they have worth seeing.

  6. Seriously:

    Read the threads from yesterday morning and you’ll know as much as I do.

  7. Yesterday = Saturday

  8. scrubs: How are things going there with the fires? Have they all been put out?

  9. angie said she would talk to afrocity about it, please come back afrocity!

  10. Seriously, I think afrocity is great but she seems to want a more conservative site that won’t bash Republicans. I don’t know if this site can do that. We all dislike Obama for the way he won the nomination but I don’t think we can continue to just criticize Obama without criticizing the Republicans. I personally won’t turn into a Republican because of Obama. Maybe more of an Independent now that I know I won’t vote for anyone simply because they are a Democrat even if they lack any principles or strongly held Democratic beliefs. But Afrocity seems to have went from a protest voter into a 100% Republican who embraces Republican policy. I don’t want that to stop her from coming to this site but she seems to want a site that only attacks Obama. I read that she is over a Little Green Footballs (? I’ve never visited that site) now.

  11. Yep, I just went over to Little Green Footballs and saw some comments from Afrocity:
    Afrocity 2/15/09 10:57:43 pm reply quote
    I used to frequent a blog where we could not talk about the Obama “BC” issue at all. If you mentioned it everyone ignored you.

    I’m guessing “BC” stands for birth certificate. Yea, if Afrocity wants to come here and talk about the awful stimulus plan, she is welcome to come here. But the moderators here have never allowed anyone to discuss Obama’s BC. I’m not saying it’s interesting to put the tin foil hat on during our own time if you want to google to read more about it but we’re not discussing it here. If Afrocity wants to talk about COLB or praise Anne Coulter, I think she’s found a good home over at Little Green Footballs.

  12. If Afrocity wants to talk about COLB or praise Anne Coulter, I think she’s found a good home over at Little Green Footballs.

    There is no rule that says you can’t be bi-blogospheric. When people wanted to discuss stuff like the COLB we didn’t ban them, we just asked them to take it somewhere else. Or they could stay here and discuss other topics. Or they could do both.

  13. DV, we criticize Republicans all the time. But this is a community, and I now I personally have been asked by afrocity to not bash Republicans and I’m willing to be sensitive to that and not hold off on criticising things but choose my words more carefully because I like her. I’m not saying everybody should do that, but I hope we can come to a compromise. And as far as the BC thing, that should not be discussed here but I’m not gonna bash her for saying something at LGF, that’s their issue, I don’t know, I don’t care.

  14. DV, we criticize Republicans all the time

    I’d say we bashed Democrats more the Republicans last year by about a 2:1 margin.

  15. I mean, one thing I would say from the other thread with dg, is that we have to come to grips with the fact the both Obama and Clinton’s supporters are left, right, and center, for various reasons. And some people who visited here during the election were Republicans, but they would at least come right out and say that upfront, unlike the Obot astroturfers who were always pretending to be one thing and another.

  16. Yes, myiq, and that’s something I hope you’ll remind angie to remind afrocity about. 😉

  17. What I’m trying to say, clumsily, is that we’re not going to all agree, but that doesn’t mean we can’t find areas of agreement and make the effort to be respectful in the way we disagree.

  18. unlike the Obot astroturfers

    Obots and racists were two groups that were always persona non grata here

  19. When I speak negatively of Democrats and Republicans I’m talking about the elected officials and party leadership.

    I think the average rank & file members of both parties are basically good people.

  20. I’m gonna get some sleep, if you need me just call my name.

  21. I’ve stayed out of the Lambert stuff ,but this condescending comment just really pissed me off:

    We all thought that post would be a gift, but it didn’t turn out that way. Check out the thread; it will certainly interest a historian of the primaries.

    Who is the *we*, I wonder?

  22. I’m calling it a night.

  23. Who is the *we*, I wonder?

    If it’s either the royal “we” or the voices in the head “we” it would explain a few things.

  24. Fredster, the woman who wrote the “NO Billary!!!!! You wouldn’t hire the plumber’s wife to fix your pipes!!!!!” post, the guy who wrote the “white women need to stop criticizing Obama for being a sexist, he’s in the deep south and you’re going to get him lynched!!!!!” post, and the person who followed that with concern about maintaining the high quality of thought there. LOL (I know it’s mean, but I’ll never get over that juxtaposition, you picked a fine time to engage in self-praise of your genius, Corrente)

  25. Fwiw, I hope Afrocity will reconsider. I think one way to avoid trouble is to focus on policies and not people. It’s the tendency to shorthand policy discussions by referring to groups that causes difficulties. Since Afrocity is a Republican it’s pretty likely many of us would also disagree with her about policy issues, but there’s a big difference between saying “you suck because you’re a Republican” and “I disagree with you because I think policy whatever is wrong for these reasons.”

    I hate to do this, but over at Corrente, they have links to Arthur Silber’s posts on tribalism, where he makes some great points about the dangers of the tendencies of groups to demonize members of other groups because they disagree, and esp. the tendency to assume moral badness and bad-intentions-ness.

    That is what obots did to us by calling us racists at every turn (and really, what I’m doing now by calling them obots…sigh, being good is hard). It’s a very human tendency but that doesn’t mean it shouldn’t be resisted, esp. if not resisting means losing friends like Afrocity and others.

    Silber’s post: (warning, it’s long) here

  26. oh cr*p, I used the “r” word, could someone get me out of moderation?

  27. myiq, Valhalla needs you to spring her (watch this, it’s freaky, he’ll appear)

  28. I’m for criticism of all elected officials when their behavior warrants it. I am opposed to any kind of ideological purity test of the person making the critique as a defense of their target’s actions. I see from time to time people arguing that just because an R or a D or a L made such and such an argument, that it is automatically invalid. I want good arguments from everyone, not just some closed approved source.

    That’s why I like the Confluence: perspective.

  29. seriously, try this:


  30. *sighs* The Candyman thing always works! I swear!

  31. yeah, its spooky

  32. What?

  33. but there’s a big difference between saying “you suck because you’re a Republican” and “I disagree with you because I think policy whatever is wrong for these reasons.”

    In this case it was more like someone saying “Republicans are evil” and someone else taking it personal.

  34. Well if nobody needs me I’m going back to sleep.

  35. Damn! The Lambert “tepidly voting Obama” Strether posts keep closing before I get a chance to comment…

    It seems Arthur Silber has mandos’ #, too:


    From – http://powerofnarrative.blogspot.com/2009/02/who-are-war-criminals.html :

    “UPDATE: I will have much more on these issues when I get further into my Tribalism series. For the moment, I will note that this first comment is a vicious goddamned lie or, more accurately, it is a series of vicious goddamned lies. Very sadly to me, it is also utterly typical of a certain kind of reaction to my writing. To begin to understand why this kind of comment is so grossly wrong and unjust, you can start by reading the first three installments of the Tribalism series. As I say, I will soon have a lot more to say on this general subject. I also note that to begin by saying that my writing is “great” only makes the lies that much more vicious, and that much more unjust.”

  36. morning all

  37. here’s a morning riddle for the ether. we vote because we see the act as a privilege and responsibility conferred on us as citizens, even as we know the one vote will not change an election. why then does a single protest vote against obama have more value than a single affirmative vote for mccain/palin that is able to accept the ticket on its merits for one term before making way for hillary. neither vote will actually turn the election, and of course the two different characterizations lead to the same vote anyway.

    the cheating by the obama campaign organization was the single most important event of my life last year. i will never forget or forgive. but at some point it will make sense to move on. i’ll be grappling with that wide turn in the months to come, becoming interested in how hillary can succeed in her current role more than how obama can fail. the nation cannot afford much more failure.

    this is nitro i know. the word confluence suggests convergence, the term puma divergence. hoping to work that out in my own head before it explodes. and i will expect that new label for my forehead before end of business today. happy monday everyone.

  38. When posts get too big they crash some people’s browsers, which means they can’t read the comments or add their own.

    200 comments is usually the limit, and the Dear Lambert thread has 300

  39. Morning Fuzzy! (and the rest of you too!)

  40. hey y’all

  41. the word confluence suggests convergence, the term puma divergence

    It’s a Zen thing – existence in the eye of the paradox

  42. The Confluence – where the Stream of Conciousness and the River of Babble-on converge.

  43. Good morning!

    Three Wickets: “…why then does a single protest vote against obama have more value than a single affirmative vote for mccain/palin that is able to accept the ticket on its merits for one term before making way for hillary.”
    Love this conundrum! I voted for authenticity and the slim chance that there might be an ounce more integrity with McCain/Palin. In a lose/lose situation it seems that voting is more of a dice throw. Nothing is morally superior.

    3: “the cheating by the obama campaign organization was the single most important event of my life last year. i will never forget or forgive.”

    The crux! Plus the complicity by Dems, media etc.

    Moving on without forgetting 2000 or 2008 in which we have to wonder how effective voting is and realizing that this country’s democracy needs an intervention.

    Three, are you planning to get a tattoo? Why do you need a label?

  44. “The Confluence – where the Stream of Conciousness and the River of Babble-on converge.”

    Classic myiq, myiq!

  45. 3W:

    “..the word confluence suggests convergence, the term puma divergence.”

    I disagree. I think puma represents solid, bedrock democratic principles. Pumas fought AGAINST divergence from these principles. I think the only label on your forehead ought to read…DEMOCRAT.

    I toyed with the idea of calling myself an independent and actually registering as one. Then I realized for me that would have just been a capitulation of MY principles. Let me stress that I am only talking about my self. I respect every individuals right to their own decision. I only have to live with myself.

    When asked I’ll say I’m a Democrat. They can’t take what that means to ME away.

  46. I met SM on Saturday we had a great time together that afternoon and well into the evening…I’m going to let SM talk of the best Valentines day we both had in a long time!

    Let just say it was a jenny and forest gump moment “we were like peas and carrots!”

  47. fuzzybeargville, glad you had such a good time. SM already gave an enthusiastic account of your get together.

  48. but the lambert thread deserved at least 300 comments! He (Lambert) was acting like a tool!

    So we threw the tool box at him plyers hammer and spanner!

    Of course that is just a metaphor…

  49. really where? I missed it….

  50. native1:

    I think 3w was referring to the “party unity my ass” definition of PUMA

    But it also means “People United Means Action”

  51. fuzzy, sorry I can’t remember the thread. It must have been the next day or shortly after your getting together.

  52. wellit is off to work the hampsters need changing off the wheels at the power plant and some one has to unload the turnip truck to feed the little buggers…of course all the obats fell off it as it passed the blogs at the corner of Corrente and DailyKos!

    so it should be a light lifting day!

  53. SM posted her version as soon as she got home – so check whatever thread was active then.

  54. Bye, fuzzy. You are metaphor rich today!

  55. myiq:

    I never took “party unity my ass” to mean we were doing the split but that we were using it to point out the obots diverging from the democratic principles that I thought were written in stone. We didn’t leave them but we are the ones being accused of being anti democratic. Classic case of misdirection and projection. I have decided that I will not go quietly into the night. I am not going to be shrill, just firm in this.

  56. PUMA will always mean ” Party Unity My Ass” to me. I saw it here first almost as soon as it was posted and knew it was definitely an icon.

  57. That was a rhetorical “damn”, not accusatory…you can’t help being so “dam” popular. Thanks for the explanation, though…

    BTW — sorry for linking to corrente — it just seems a bizarre coincidence that mandos managed to incur Silber’s wrath right in the middle of our little discussion here.

    Is VL shrugging his shoulders? “Hey, what’d I do?…”

  58. Mandos is the type that gives trolls a bad reputation.

    His problem isn’t that he’s ignorant, it’s that he’s ignorant but thinks he knows it all.

  59. Anyone who has spent time in college has seen the student who thinks they know more than the teacher.

    That’s Mandos.

  60. native1 – I always hated Independents as I saw them as that wishy-washy undecided poll factor who were constantly influenced by the daily news cycle. I see it a little differently now, but still think RD’s “Dems in exile” fits me best. Surely better than being a “Dem in captivity” as myiq calls them.

  61. I don’t think the democratic party has been kidnapped, forced into action, or have dramatically broken ranks. I think we just noticed the emperor is naked.

    think about how easily they left Hillary out. hanging. pushed her to the edge. begged her to jump off. laughed at her. no group with a core against misogyny or a bone of inteliigence could do that with such ease and so much fun.

    democrap or republicanned–same thing different name. If being independent is wishy washy call me puma. but to hang the moniker democrat on my soul is like throwing holy water on the devil–it burns. oh it burns.

  62. Mandos=student
    The entire comment thread of one of mandos’ posts consists of Lambert critiquing his use of snark, etc. “I was inventing snark when you were just a whipersnapper…”
    He seems to offer a lot of “guidance” to his flock…

  63. The entire comment thread of one of mandos’ posts consists of Lambert critiquing his use of snark

    Mandos is waaaay too casual about insulting people he doesn’t know. He probably thinks he’s “afflicting the comfortable” or something. If he does that in real life he better be a fast runner or a good fighter.

  64. jenniforhillary — “If being independent is wishy washy call me puma. but to hang the moniker democrat on my soul is like throwing holy water on the devil–it burns. oh it burns.”

    Can’t say I blame you.

    And I’m getting more and more proud of the PUMA label, too.

  65. When you stop thinking of yourself as a Democrat it really opens your eyes to a lot of stuff.

    But I have to admit I still have a sentimental attachment to the donkey party.

  66. Did everyone see that Islamic (Shariah) Law is being officially imposed on parts of Pakistan?


    I figured there was going to be a thread!

  67. thenotionthat’sonmenow
    Absolutely agree. I had to revisit my feelings of superiority not just towards independents, but especially undecided voters. Karma had me make my mind minutes before walking into the booth (I planned to vote McKinney, but a B0botic outburst made me protest all the way).
    And yes, after following all the exchange, I am starting to like “Democrat in exile” more and more as self definition = and I shall keep the PUMA too, contrarian as I am.

  68. it’s only 5:30 in the morning here and you want me to have a thread prepared?

    Blame the east coasters.

  69. Also, in the news (but very, very small news) – Obama defends Rove by keeping W’s bogus executive privilege notion

  70. The only label I want is American. When any of the parties is out of line I can see clearly what to do.

    “Let me now take a more comprehensive view, and warn you in the most solemn manner against the baneful effects of the spirit of party generally.

    This spirit, unfortunately, is inseparable from our nature, having its root in the strongest passions of the human mind. It exists under different shapes in all governments, more or less stifled, controlled, or repressed; but, in those of the popular form, it is seen in its greatest rankness, and is truly their worst enemy.

    The alternate domination of one faction over another, sharpened by the spirit of revenge, natural to party dissension, which in different ages and countries has perpetrated the most horrid enormities, is itself a frightful despotism. But this leads at length to a more formal and permanent despotism. The disorders and miseries which result gradually incline the minds of men to seek security and repose in the absolute power of an individual; and sooner or later the chief of some prevailing faction, more able or more fortunate than his competitors, turns this disposition to the purposes of his own elevation, on the ruins of public liberty.

    … the common and continual mischiefs of the spirit of party are sufficient to make it the interest and duty of a wise people to discourage and restrain it.

    It serves always to distract the public councils and enfeeble the public administration. It agitates the community with ill-founded jealousies and false alarms, kindles the animosity of one part against another, foments occasionally riot and insurrection. It opens the door to foreign influence and corruption, which finds a facilitated access to the government itself through the channels of party passions. Thus the policy and the will of one country are subjected to the policy and will of another.

    … in governments purely elective, it is a spirit not to be encouraged. ”

    — George Washington

  71. That’s not small news.

  72. Rice and Powers pressure SOS Clinton into Durban 2 confrence . Leaked telegrams .
    From Alegre’s corner :
    “In one of the telegrams, a number of Obama officials reportedly pressed Secretary of State Clinton to announce the U.S. would participate in the conference.
    One of the leading officials pressuring Clinton on “Durban 2” is the new U.S. ambassador to the UN, Susan Rice, who was Obama’s close campaign adviser.
    Rice is also pushing for the U.S. to join the UN Human Rights Council, which is based in Geneva. The body had been boycotted by the U.S., in part because of its one-sided criticism of Israel.
    President George Bush had accused the HRC of opting to focus on Israel instead of dealing with the genocide in Darfur.
    The other official pushing for American participation in “Durban 2″ is Samantha Power, another Obama adviser at the National Security Council.”


  73. I just went over to that LGF site (and btw, I don’t like the set up to read comments — but maybe I’m just not used to it). I think in all fairness we should point out that they are talking about some Tenn. Republican pols are trying to revive the BC issue with another lawsuit & they are saying they should be listed as “G” for gulliable not as “R.” I’m just pointing this out because I don’t think we need to imply that afrocity is doing things or saying things that aren’t true. Also, if she wants to be at LGF then let her, I don’t think we need to report on what she is doing there. You know, contrary to kos mandates, a lot of Dems can be “center” & maybe seeing what the DNC did this year pushed them over right — I can’t say I blame them. Lord knows if what passes on kos for a “Democrat” was actually “Democrat” I’d be a Republican too. My point is: lets wish afrocity the best of luck & happiness & leave it at that.

  74. lets wish afrocity the best of luck & happiness & leave it at that

    Works for me – afrocity can go anywhere she wants and she’s always welcome here.

  75. 🙂 Now I’m late for work — see y’all later!

  76. I may have to whip up a new post toot sweet – nobody else seems to have anything in the pipeline.

  77. isn’t it a holiday today?

  78. angienc2: “My point is: lets wish afrocity the best of luck & happiness & leave it at that.”


  79. I always enjoyed Afrocity’s comments and I hope she remains on the radio show. If you speak with her Angie, tell her gxm said hi.

  80. Yes today is President’s Day

  81. Yes today is President’s Day

    The courts are closed here, but our judges take every federal, state and foreign holiday they can.

    No judge, no court.

  82. Change: What is left after Obama and his minions take what they want.

  83. So do ours, myiq, and our offices are supposed to close when court is closed, but here I am at work. 🙄

  84. I am deeply worried about the economy, about what is happening in CA. Watch CA; Dems have run the show here for several years. Many things have been good but the Dem leadership here has also done some things that are politically and economically harmful. I think the recent Republican success in blocking a compromise package over our 42 billion dollar debt that would have raised several CA taxes in a state reeling from foreclosures and business losses may have popular support—even if it pulls the state government off a cliff. CA is sometimes called a bellwether state; the Repubs have been in decline here since Reagan. If Repubs have a rebirth here, it may be the canary in the mine shaft.

  85. There is a song I play every once in a blue full moon ; for laughs , called
    “Butt Naked Lesbian Werewolves ”
    by Johnny James …. bet you wont hear THAT on the radio 😉

  86. oh darn .. am in moderation

  87. It is President’s Day and I am lighting my candle for Obama right now. He is miraculous! The best evah!

  88. The only safe channel on tv , where there is no chance of bo showing up and ruining my digestion , is the food channel 🙂

  89. It’s good to see jenniforhillary posting here, I’ve admired her comments ever since I stumbled on her back in the primaries. Of everything she’s posted, this is my favorite:
    Oh come on, your patronizing, overtly sexist response confirms why you would blindly support a black supremacist only interested in power and money. Let me repeat myself, Barack Hussein Obama was raised a radical Muslim (two-thirds of his family are practicing Muslims), so his middle name is of GREAT importance especially in light of the fact that his church, the churh where he is a member, gives sermons, and holds a leadership role, gave Louis Farrakhan (a Muslim) a ‘humanitarian’ award. By the way, Barack Hussein Obama did not denouce the award, but rather Farrakhan’s endorsement of his running for public office. Barack Hussein Obama is just fine with his church giving Louis Farrakhan a ‘humanitarian’ award. But I am not. Racism is racism and if people who think black people are lesser because of their color are racists, than people who think whites or jews are lesser because of the color of their skin or the country they happened to be born in are racists too. You are missing the point entirely, and this is the BIG problem. You cannot say you are for unity if you preach separatism and hate, you cannot say you are for change if you are doing the same old thing (lining your pockets, pandering to the public, and piling on the pork), and you cannot say that you care about people if nothing you do speaks to this as a truth UNLESS you are a hypocrite and a liar. You and others remind me of poor people who voted for George Bush when ALL (i.e. EVERY SINGLE ONE) of his programs benefitted only the top 10% of the most wealthy. WHY do you support someone who is laughing all the way to the bank carrying YOUR money driving his rolls royce? I am begging you to reconsider, read, and vote for someone who really cares. I would challenge Mr. Obama right now to debate me anytime, anyplace and I would win because I speak the truth and I have no other motive other than to help others. I don’t want to be elected, I don’t want to be rich, I just want poor people, the middle class, women, people of color, etc., etc. to have a fighting chance at the American Dream. The BIG LIE always seems to work though, so my truths and THE TRUTH just keeps getting overlooked….PLEASE remember to look beyond the hype and please vote for Hillary Clinton.
    Comment by jennifer from houston on Feb 28th, 2008, 17:01 pm

  90. FYI – Found an article on The Washington Post (WaPo) this a.m. on Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton’s visit to Asia off under “World New”, where you have to scroll down to the bottom half of the screen under “More World News”: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/02/16/AR2009021600829.html

    Seems they put in a dig against former President Bill Clinton on so-called “Japan passing” over ten years ago.

    Q. Is it just me, or do you all get a sense that WaPo and other Main Stream Media (MSM) are minimizing and marginalizing SOS HRC’s visit, burying the story on the back page, because they don’t want her to upstage her boss, POTUS BHO?

    At least Fox News had a correspondent and a live segment on TV this a.m.

    Appreciate your response. And, Happy President’s Day! (Except I see SOS HRC, hear her speak, and am reminded: She should have been POTUS HRC.)

    BTW – I saw HRC climb down the stairs of the plane, and watched her long coat, with wide vents, blowing in the wind to show a spectacular lining! Closest to having a cape blowing, I suppose. Closest we have to Superwoman? Anyway, I appreciate the coat, not just because women like fashion, but as a home sewer/amateur tailor.

    Hope they bring back those Vogue Pattern sales at Joann Fabrics, so I can try some cool, chic ensembles, too!

  91. Correction: In describing Hillary’s coat, the term “long vents” is more apt than “wide”, tailor-wise. Need to read up on my clothing and pattern catalogues to get the lingo to flow. Penny-pinching has taken me away from regular reading, shopping for new clothes styles, I’ll admit.

  92. If you go to the ABC News front page, there is a poll for best president in U.S. history. Amazingly, they already have Obama as one of the contenders and he’s already been ranked higher than Theodore Roosevelt and Harry Truman. Also, Ronald Reagan is ranked higher than Bill Clinton. What is wrong with people??? So someone in office less than 100 days is a better president than Theodore Roosevelt?

    Please go to ABC News. The poll is to the right. Lincoln, Roosevelt, Clinton and Washington are the only ones who deserve to be at the top of the list.

  93. DisenfranchisedVoter: “What is wrong with people???”

    I’m laughing, but there is a great sadness mixed in.

  94. If somebody else doesn’t post something soon, I might have to do that “Zombie Strippers” thread after all.

  95. DV and SOD … Maybe I am exhausted and indifferent ( which explains why I took a much needed day off today ) but I just think that a poll from ABC and their watchers about who is the “best” president is idiotic …
    What is that really ?? The ABC American Idol of Presidents? Who is voting ?? Anyone with a mouse ??
    But there are not any INTELLIGENT questions they could have asked about history , or presidents are there on the day when we celebrate the Presidents of this country ?? Noooooooooooooooo of course not ….. Stupid media mongrels bite it again ..

  96. I considered myself a yella dawg until this election. Now, the only things I am sure of, are the principles I still hold dear. Championing the less fortunate and making sure there are programs in place, women’s rights, reproductive rights, the right to chose your partner in life; to name just a few.

    This used to be the democratic party, but it isn’t anymore, so I suppose I am an exiled liberal looking for a home.

  97. I’ve spent the last couple of hours seeking inspiration but nada planada.

    I’m going to go back to bed and see if when I wake up again the day looks better.

  98. better if there’s less noise on this trip for Hill. china, japan, guys, we’ll all be just fine, so stay warm on US treasuries, and no, we don’t hate you, who’s been sayin that. indonesia, south korea, so one more time, with feeling, how did you guys manage to wriggle out of that nasty financial collapse, oh the fta, let’s see hmm, hey when’s the last time you guys made a proper state visit to the US.

    someone over the weekend had a thoughtful comment about retaining a pr firm. and that 5K a month could be a starting place. burson might agree to a chat over coffee if you were talking ten times that figure, even in this economy. nah, money messes with the agenda. skills come pure when they don’t cost.
    myiq, there aren’t many rivers in the bay area of course, but you need to get out more.

  99. AND the Axelrovian propaganda machine just never sleeps! I thought this one was particularly hliarious…in a demented, soulless sort of way. Lots more principles to sell out in the future folks!

    Obama Aides Cite Bipartisan Success

    CHICAGO, Feb. 15 — Senior advisers to President Obama on Sunday defended passage of the economic stimulus bill in Congress as a bipartisan effort, even though it received only three Republican votes in the Senate and none in the House.

    Axelrod said on “Fox News Sunday” that “old habits die hard.” But, he added, “the package reflects the thinking of members of both parties. And I think that over time . . . there’ll be a positive effect of just having dialogue, of just talking, which has not happened for a long time in this town.”


  100. RealKim: We’re like nomads…

  101. DV: I guarantee that most people don’t even know who Teddy Roosevelt was as president. Our educational system is quite sad. If you put The Jonas Brothers in that poll, they’d have a chance too. The Dumbing Down of America at its best.

  102. Barf-worthy news
    Pelosi in Italy, will have an audience with the pope:


  103. When you stop thinking of yourself as a Democrat it really opens your eyes to a lot of stuff.

    That about sums it up for me. This whole election was a revelation for me.

  104. SOD and Myiq,

    I’m working on a post, but if someone beats me to it, I’ll post it later. It may take me a little while.

  105. Have you seen this. The Pakistan gov’t has made a deal with the Taliban to impose sharia law. Women are enslaved to end violence. Article claims this has no impact on human rights. Who are these people?


  106. Jeez. I can never, no matter how much I try, keep up with this site to the point I can write timely posts. I always wind up reading everything – everything – and then run out of time…you folks simply make too many good points too quickly 😉

    That said, myiq from a ways back:

    Who is the *we*, I wonder?

    If it’s either the royal “we” or the voices in the head “we” it would explain a few things.

    Thanks for making my morning, hon. HAW!

  107. Uppity Woman has a post Uncle Jay explains the news. It is great it will start a rainy day off with a laugh.



  108. RD has a great post up!

  109. Hmmm interesting commentary on movie cliche . Currently I am directing all my vampire interest to Twilight. Of course the children have always been a huge influence on me. They are so much more pure than the adults I am surrounded by.

  110. NH: Who are these people? Well they are a bunch of men. And in their testosterone ravaged minds what they say and agreed to makes sense. This is why many think the women’s movement needs to make use of targeted violence. At the end of life some women would surly rather contribute to the living by being an agent of violence against male institutions that need violent disruption than suffer quietly and wither slowly.

  111. Catarina – Do you suppose Pelosi is seeking an audience with the Pope so he can hear her confession, get absolution and remission for her sins?

  112. Seriously said:
    I know it’s mean, but I’ll never get over that juxtaposition, you picked a fine time to engage in self-praise of your genius, Corrente)


    The comment was from Lambert at his site. Were you referring to me as having picked a “fine time” to do whatever?

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