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Wednesday: Brace yourself, Sirota, Obama’s landing in the Hudson

Normally, we don’t respond to our critics.  There are plenty out there who hate our guts and make it their mission in life to criticize us. There is something about people like us who will not submit to enormous loads of peer pressure that just drive some sites to insensible frothing.  We ignore them.  But when David Sirota wrote his petulant tantrum piece for OpenLeft, well, that’s a different kettle of fish.  David is(was) a real journalist who wrote some searing prose back in the day.  He’s not like the talentless beligerents who stalk and provoke us for some reaction that they can later blow out of proportion.  Indeed, David didn’t even mention us by name.

I looked for some clues in David Sirota’s biography that would explain how it was that he went so totally off the rails last year for Obama.  Sirota is part of the self-appointed Creative Class.  We real creative class members would appreciate it if these wannabees would stop using our class designation but we’ll put that aside for the moment.  David was 5 years old when Reagan took office.  He was 18 when Bill Clinton took the oath.  David doesn’t know anything about The Great Society or the War on Poverty other than what he heard at his pappy’s knees.  David went to Northwestern University for his journalism degree.  Not too shabby.  His choice of school and major indicates a degree of financial independence that those of us from working class backgrounds did not enjoy.  We who were the first in our families to go to college picked majors that would help us earn a living.  There was no poetry and politics in our future.  I could be completely wrong about David but he seems to be one of the people Pacific John talked about in the Audacity of Democracy.  He’s a child of the Reagan years.  Reagan put the wealthy and well connected back in the driver’s seat.

Sirota has a bone to pick with the Clintons.  I’m not sure that Sirota was really paying attention to what happened in the 90’s.  I understand.  It’s hard to be focused when you’ve got mid-terms and Friday night keggers.  Essentially what happened was that a young, charismatic governor and his brilliant wife came upon DC like gangbusters and got their asses handed to them by the Villagers.  They had high-faloutin’ hopes for healthcare reform and equality for gay soldiers and open-minded Supreme Court justices and an administration that looked like America.  And they got trashed for that.  Then the Democrats misused their franking privileges and their bank to float bad checks and lost Congress.  The Republicans swept to power in 1994 and that was the end of The Man from Hope.  He spent the next 6 years dealing with an overtly hostile Congress and media.  But a funny thing happened.  Despite all of the investigations, which lead to nothing more than a girl in a beret, Clinton left the country in peace with a surplus.  Did he achieve all he wanted?  No, I don’t think so.  He made a lot of compromises along the way.  Sometimes he tried to acommodate Republicans when he thought business would profit.  Sometimes, he compromised because he just didn’t have the numbers to prevail and all he could do was cushion the blow.  But those of us who remember the triumphant night in Little Rock in November 1992 took a collective sigh of relief when the bad old days of the Republican era of Reagan and Bush *finally* came to an end.  We didn’t know that the evil f%&(s were lying in wait in the media and were going to undermine this guy and his wife for 8 long years.

But for Sirota, no good deed goes unpunished.  The Clintons are to blame for EVERYTHING.  The only thing I can attribute this to is the incessant braying of the Limbaugh types and the nauseating amount of propaganda that has permeated every “news” outlet.  Something about the Clintons really upset the Villagers to a degree that I have never seen before.  It was relentless.  I can only speculate that something about them, and particularly Hillary, was a threat to their way of life, class or economic strata.  Sirota, having lived in this atmosphere for most of his adult life, did not pick up on it that Hillary Clinton was the real change agent.  Her election would have finally made the Villagers impotent.  They would have been forced to adapt to a new environment, one where nothing they said would make a damn bit of difference.  She would have been elected in spite of the Village, not because of them.  Just think of that squandered opportunity.

What happened to Sirota last year is in some respects a repeat of what happened to those of us who were 10 years older when the Clintons took power.  He must have been relieved that a Democratic president would finally take over and put things right.  That was our hope as well.  But we knew that it would be a disaster to put Obama in charge because he was not ready.  Now, David can go on forever rationalizing about Hillary and what she might have done.  But Hillary was off of Sirota’s list early for war related reasons.  For some bizarre reason, he can’t accept that Obama was off of our radar for experience related reasons.  In fact, I would have preferred Biden or Dodd to Obama.  (Kucinich, Edwards and Richardson were non-starters to me for various reasons).  Obama was simply at the bottom of my list because I knew he would be over his head.

There are many things that Sirota isn’t getting about the past election that I’d like to clear up for him:

  • Obama ran a terrible campaign.  I know that goes against conventional wisdom but that’s why it is conventional and not always right.  Obama threw tons of money in the big states and lost.  He went to the convention only 17 delegates ahead, all of them from MIchigan, a state where his name wasn’t on the ballot.  And the only reason he got those ill-gotten delegates is because the RBC lowered the bar for him.  They were so determined to see an African-American on the ballot that they ignored the fact that most primary voters did not vote for him.  They saw that his campaign didn’t have the votes to make him the nominee and there was no damn way he was going to win a new primary in Florida, so they rigged the primary in his favor.  That’s what Obama’s nomination amounts to- a rigged vote.
  • The rigging of the primaries was not a loss for just Hillary Clinton.  And while we’re at it, let’s get something straight: Secretary of State is not some consolation prize for not getting to be president.  There is no consolation prize for that.  She lost and she will never get a second crack at it.  She’s dealing with it the best way she can and we have moved on from that.  No, the real loss from the rigging of the primaries was for the voters.  They got snookered into thinking that their votes actually counted but really, a bunch of guys in a backroom cut a deal and cut the voters out.  That’s why we’re here, David.  We’re the people whose votes were callously cast away because we wanted someone else.  And we were the majority.
  • Barack Obama sailed to victory on a sea of cash provided by some very wealthy and well connected people.  Those people don’t give a damn about the voters either.  All they wanted was to see which of the candidates was most susceptible to their siren song.  Obama was their dude.  He took the money and because he is a weak politician with no coalitions that he has banked over the years through hard work. He is beholden to the moneymen and the Villagers who are their front guys.
  • Barack Obama is out of his depth and we voters are screwed.  This is the scariest part of the whole scenario.  A responsible president would have come into this office with a set of plans and policies to meet the crisis that was already in play before he was inaugurated.  He should have been making the morning talk show circuit months ago laying the groundwork for ideas that he planned to implement.  He should have hit the ground running with his cabinet appointments and had a deep bench in case of a nanny problem.  We are in a global economic crisis and there are rumors that back in September, the world nearly plunged back into the Dark Ages financially.  And what do we get?  He appears to be making it up as he goes along.  He’s giving way to the centrists and Republicans.  He still doesn’t have a cabinet secretary for HHS and Labor.  What is going on??

Obama’s response so far has been inadequate, short sighted, arrogant, ill-prepared and ineffective.  As a result, the recession will be longer, deeper and more painful for all of us.  His behavior and actions are a direct result of his 1.) lack of experience and 2.) lack of political philosophy.  It turns out that he really believed his post partisan shtick, which makes him not brilliant after all. In essence, what we have is a jumbo jet preparing to make a crash landing in the Hudson and instead of an experienced pilot at the controls, we have a guy who has never even soloed.  This is about OBAMA, David, not Hillary.  Obama has spent his whole career in campaign mode, not governing mode.  This fact should have been clear to you last year.  It was clear to us.

Now, do I blame Obama for the fact that the economy is in the mess it’s in?  No.  No one here would make that mistake.  But we do blame him for making it worse than it has to be because he is not the person we need right now.  Hillary might have been better but that’s something we’ll never know.  What we *do* know is that a year ago at this time, most of us bitter losers thought that Obama was not ready for prime time.  That is why we did not vote for him.  We didn’t say, “Oh, yeah, the economy is going to tank.  The signs are all there.  But wouldn’t it be cool to have Obama?  He totally makes us cry sometimes.

Our eyes were open, David.  We knew what was at stake.  Don’t tell us to STFU.  You and your dreamy eyed Obot friends got us to this point.  You owe the rest of the country an apology for not sticking up for the integrity of the voting process.  You owe us big time for not standing up to sexism and propaganda instead of indulging in it.  You lost your heads in a frenzy of Obama love while the rest of us trembled with fear of an upcoming economic downturn.

We kept our heads and now we have the right and obligation to speak up.   And we’re going to do that every chance we get.

217 Responses

  1. I gotta quibble with the analogy – Capt. Sully is a pilot with mad skillz who averted a disaster.

    Obama ain’t fit to carry his jock.

  2. Everything I think and more. Thanx for this one.

  3. I think the title is fine. Sully landed ON the Hudson. Obama will land us IN the Hudson. It is all in the details. We PUMAs are so picky.

  4. Considering that Obama only won with 52% of the vote and that the media had it in for the Clntons, I think it would have been President John McCain if Hillary won the nomination.
    This is not a comment on Hillary or praise for Obama, just my thoughts about how the media had interfered with the election process these last three cycles.
    Either way were are boned, because both parties are responsible for bringing us low. Republicans and Democrats both sold out America for thirty pieces of silver.

  5. Yeah, right…Hillary would have lost in an economic depression, when she was more trusted on the economy than any candidate running. That’s crap.

  6. MrMike:

    Hillary consistently polled better than Obama vs. McCain

    Hillary is impervious to the media

  7. RD:

    PLEASE do more of your tell-off posts – they are the equivalent of drinking 100 Red Bulls back to back.

    MYIQ: You’re right – Sully = Hillary.

    Obama = Capt. of the Titanic, Capt of Exxon Valdez and the train conductor who was texting on his phone in Cali all rolled up into one.

  8. MrMike: I disagree. I think if Hillary had been the nominee, she would have had the same economic turndown that gave Obama the edge. And in HER case, she was chock full of good ideas. We have her doing the rounds on morning talk shows that prove it.
    PLUS, Republican women were ready to flock to her. Even if Palin had been rolled out, Hillary would have prevailed. Last year, a Democrat was favored. Any Democrat would have won after the market crashed.
    And the Villagers would have been put on mute. No one would have believed a word they said.

  9. Hillary would have won because she would have inspired more confidence in her ability to be “ready on day one.” As she has clearly been at the state department.

    It has occurred to me that the Cactus 1549 story shows the value of experience.

  10. Thanks RD, that is a brilliant summary. It puts it all in perspective. I think the hopey-changey crowd is getting scared now because even if they understood (even a little) what the economic situation was likely to become, they never thought it would be bad enough to actually affect them. Well, now it is. Uh oh.

    MrMike — nope, Clinton was still outpolling Obama against McCain right up until election day, even though the msm was still demonizing her as if she’d still been campaigning the previous 6 months. Not much question that she would have kicked McCain’s butt in the general. (and with less money and creepy narcissism than the Obama campaign).

  11. Hillary would’ve pushed all of FDR’s New Deal programs to get us out of the mess we’re in.

    What is ridiculous and scary is that Obots like Sirota don’t see Obama’s marriage to big money.

    And this was the kicker:

    He still doesn’t have a cabinet secretary for HHS and Labor. What is going on??

    That cabinet post has to be the most important of all posts in these very difficult times! WTF is going on?

    We lived through 8 years of Bush and our bullshit meters are very well honed. Obama is giving us the same runaround like Bush except that Darth Cheney was running the machine. And as evil as Darth Cheney is, the man at least has experience.

    Obama’s administration look like a bunch of bumbling Keystone Cops.

  12. I think the title is fine. Sully landed ON the Hudson. Obama will land us IN the Hudson.

    Perfect summation!

    This is a great post! Sirota reads petulant and hysterical in his defense of himself.

  13. “Hillary Clinton was the real change agent.”
    “Obama was simply at the bottom of my list because I knew he would be over his head.”

    ——-
    Yes, she was.
    Yes, he is. And he’s taking us down with him.

  14. Obama supporters are starting to sound like someone who bet more than they can afford to lose on the wrong horse.

  15. Thank you, rd – perfect response.

  16. Have you ever tried to tell the truth to someone who was in denial?

    In their heart they know you’re right but they aren’t ready to admit it, so they get angry at you.

    That’s Sirota

  17. myiq2xu, on February 11th, 2009 at 8:49 am Said:

    Have you ever tried to tell the truth to someone who was in denial?

    In their heart they know you’re right but they aren’t ready to admit it, so they get angry at you.

    That’s Sirota

    We’re shouting “Obama’s not that into you” and they still think he wants to marry them.

  18. You really summarized the whole thing RD. A lot of these kids who grew up under Reagan and the scourging of Bill Clinton really don’t understand what being a Democrat is all about. They were brainwashed by the tax cut, supply side, trickle down mythology and from their childish point of view Reagan seemed like a jolly old grandpa.

    They bought into all the conventional wisdom about the Clintons. Now they are stuck with their own version of Reagan and they aren’t going to like it. We warned them, but they shouted us down and forced him on us too. I hold them responsible. I don’t care about an apology. They just need to pipe down and watch while their dreams are dashed.

  19. According to the financial press this morning, the “Stimulus” is amateur hour and the administration though they could fake it. This is really bad.

  20. Thanks, RD.

    His inexperience is so glaring, has been from the beginning, that it still just completely confuses me how the O people don’t see that.

    When Palin came on the scene, one of my first thoughts were that they couldn’t argue against her experience since O’s was so much less. But to my shock and confusion, they did!!

    And yes, Hillary won. Amazing how many people just don’t realise that. I don’t just blame the media though, or the O people like Sirota, for misleading them, because if they paid just a little more attention, actually took time to do some research before casting a vote to decide on who rules the most powerful country on the planet – which is, you know, somewhat of a big deal – then they would know. They should know.

    I’ve lost so much respect for so many people due to this election.

    I don’t usually comment much here, due to time issues, but I just wanted to say thanks (thanks!) and pipe up a bit.

  21. Reagan was such a disaster for this country, in so many ways. The idea of trashing Clinton, who had to pick up the pieces and try to get us back on track, is just unimaginable to me.

  22. This essay needs to be read far beyond this one blog. It is the perfect “defense”, if you will, of where those of us who have held out reside.

    It is much easier to dismiss us as a bunch of whiny, Hillary cult loving r*cists, over the hill, bitter enders than to actually sit back and examine the reasoning behind our “split off” from the current Democratic rulers of the party.

    We were totally and officially aware of the myriad of disasters that would follow the Bush administration and one candidate at least put forth possible solutions while the other offered little beyond words and a “feel good” aspect in his quest to attain that role. Rejecting that premise, refusing to give up principle and commonsense in face of all out ridicule, we remained steadfast in demanding that the nominee at least produce evidence that he was up to the job.

    Faced with so much uncertainty we had to sit by and watch this man, with so few credentials, elevated far beyond what we knew was possible to attain. Our fears have been realized. Those who contradicted us are now in the throes of their own doubts and the only way they can justify themselves is to shout “STFU” to any and all who may question their motives and defense. But it changes nothing.

    It is what it is. Those that “brought him to the dance” are now stuck with the reality that perhaps there may be a flaw in their unrelentless CDS. When one can reach back now, after 8 years of Bush/Cheney, and place the blame for all ills on the shoulders of not one, but both Clinton’s, the argument is all but lost.

    There was no depth to their clambering to get this man elected. The chickens indeed have come home to roost. It is Sirota, and those who parroted a specious thesis for the rise of Obama, who should just STFU. The argument is moot. The mistake has been sworn in. We are forced to live with the possibility that the Repubs may once more rise again.

    They did this to us. Game. Set. Match.

  23. Another day in Moderation Hell!!!

  24. bostonboomer, on February 11th, 2009 at 8:53 am Said:

    Well said, BB.

  25. Some times I kinda regret leaving the country. The rule of Obama is turning out to be very fun and much sooner that we here knew it would be.

    It’s funny to see (former) Ozoids like the Davester be unable to fess up and lick their wounds in some corner without screaming “yes, but Hillary is terrible”.

    I hate to say we told you so, but “We told you so… Assholes!!!”

    The weather is terrible here in Berlin today. Even here a brother can’t catch a break with the freakin’ weather.

  26. […] Posted on February 11, 2009 by bluelyon Riverdaughter hands David Sirota his ass: Obama’s response so far has been inadequate, short sighted, arrogant, […]

  27. bostonboomer, on February 11th, 2009 at 8:53 am Said:

    You really summarized the whole thing RD. A lot of these kids who grew up under Reagan and the scourging of Bill Clinton really don’t understand what being a Democrat is all about. They were brainwashed by the tax cut, supply side, trickle down mythology and from their childish point of view Reagan seemed like a jolly old grandpa.

    They bought into all the conventional wisdom about the Clintons. Now they are stuck their own version of Reagan and they aren’t going to like it. We warned them, but they shouted us down and forced him on us too. I hold them responsible. I don’t care about an apology. They just need to pipe down and watch while their dreams are dashed.

    I’m a Reagan kid and all I remember was everybody getting laid off from work, massive crime spikes in my neighborhood and people having to pay local gangs to burn down their houses just to be able to collect insurance money one it because they could sell them.

    I remember cheese lines and living in absolute fear of nuclear annihilation.

    Reagan kids were either very well off or in dire economic situations.

  28. When Palin came on the scene, one of my first thoughts were that they couldn’t argue against her experience since O’s was so much less. But to my shock and confusion, they did!!

    Cognitive dissonance is a feature, not a bug for Obama supporters.

    They praise Obama for the same things they hate Bill and Hillary for.

  29. MABlue – are you permanently living in Germany??

  30. RD,

    Thanks for this one.

    But isnt it amazing how the dispute with the Pumas always come back to Hillary. Whose the whining heads now?

    Obots have not gotten with the program yet. Like their messiah they are still in campaign mode. Hillary moved on and so did we.

    Now it is about a crash landing with an inexperienced pilot at the commands and to carry on the analogy, Sully was the last one to evacuate the plan, Obama is already back in his town meeting mode.

  31. I don’t care for dick morris, but I fear he is right this time, and Hillary’s job as SOS is going to be undercut. I do think she gave up a seat in the Senate for nothing.

    http://thehill.com/dick-morris/hillarys-incredible-shrinking-role-2009-02-09.html

  32. sm77

    No. Just for an assignment.

    I wanted to be away at least in the first year of the Obama regime. I’m just surprised how soon the whole thing seem to unravel, although we at The Confluence always knew there were no there there and all these clown would be disappointed but all of us would suffer for it.

    I’ll be in Europe until I find it better to come back home.

    PS: if only we could recall the primaries… Dammit I’m dreaming already.

  33. Captain Sully is proof that experience matters.

    When the engines failed there wasn’t time to consult the text books or hold discussions. He had one chance to do everything right and he did it.

  34. Re: health care reform…

    Looks like some of the early musings of the Clinton Administration are back…in spades…and in the hands of the Obama shits. And is should scare the pants off you…

    Hidden Health Care Provisions in the “Stimulus Package”: the Ghost of Daschle Lives On and Will Haunt Us All, Especially Seniors…This is BAD NEWS!!

    http://insightanalytical.wordpress.com/2009/02/11/hidden-health-care-provisions-in-the-stimulus-package-the-ghost-of-daschle-lives-on-and-will-haunt-us-all-especially-seniorsthis-is-bad-news/

  35. MAblue

    You have few bad and very cold days in front of you. Germany weather is usually what the NorthEast got 6 days before. And here last week was BAD. But do not dispair we are now enjoying a spring like week. Yours to come soon

  36. MABlue – GOOD CHOICE!!!

    And yeah, shit hit the fan faster than you can say “arugula.”

  37. No Female Senators or Representatives from Congress are on Stimulus Bill Conference Committee

    link

  38. Dick Morris’s piece is an absurdity, made up specially for Clinton-bashing.

    This, for example, is patently untrue:

    one cannot help but feel that she is surrounded by people who are, at best, strangers and, at worst, enemies.

    To claim that Holbrooke and Mitchell, for example, and also Biden, are enemies or strangers is so untrue as to be insane. Hillary herself appointed Holbrooke and Mitchell, and suggested the appointment of a special envoy to Pakistan and Afghanstan to Bush, who ignored it. Now she gets her way, and she is being marginalized?

    Dick Morris, with his faux sympathy, is up to his usual tricks.

    If you want to see what Hillary is really doing, check out the state dept website, which is really good and full of info about her.

  39. SM,

    You remember because you are awake and aware and able to resist the all-encompassing mass hypnosis that is the consensus reality. Some of us have maintained the ability to think for ourselves.

    https://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/2008/09/04/puma-a-violation-of-consensus-reality/

    People like David Sirota who should know better have been co-opted by their desire for power and fame. Hence, his over-the top rage. The person he is really angry with is himself.

  40. Hi MABlue! I’m glad you checked in. The past couple of days I’ve been wondering what you are up to.

  41. Arrgh! As I have posted against on every site I have seen the @$$ Morris article ref – here is what Hill is doing this month:

    What is Hillary doing this month?:

    http://us-foreign-affairs.suite101.com/article.cfm/what_is_hillary_doing_her_first_month_in_office

    Hillary meets privately w/ 14 professional Afghan women:

    “The State Department issued a statement about the meeting late Friday. It was not on Clinton’s public schedule, and Wood did not mention the meeting at his daily press briefing when he discussed the secretary’s second day in office.

    According to the State Department, Clinton praised the women’s “bravery and courage” for bringing reform to Afghanistan and reaffirmed President Obama’s commitment to stabilizing Afghanistan.

    At her confirmation hearing, Clinton also pledged to focus more attention on women’s issues, especially in Afghanistan.”

    http://capitolhillforum.com/topic/1135772/1/

  42. Obama is in over his head but he doesn’t want to fail – he can’t afford to undermine his own SofS

    That would be insane

  43. bb: Having just reread that post from September 4th it is amazing that we have not shifted much at all from our stance back then.

    Truth to tell though, I miss a lot of the voices that contributed to the comments who no longer do.

  44. Attempts to rewrite history more often than not fail in the end. You see it revised in most divorces.

  45. Brilliant. I am copying athis post nd pasting on my desktop to read and read and read again and again – every morning – to remind me of the truth.

    Thanks!

  46. I miss a lot of the voices

    There’s a few I don’t miss a bit, like Senor Pompous Ass

  47. He is appearing occasionally over at Zsa Zsa’s place.

  48. toe licker dick morris HATES Hillary Clinton.

    We must not allow that backstabbing turd one opportunity to live off the backs of the clintons.

  49. He is appearing occasionally over at Zsa Zsa’s place

    Good for him. He’s a natural born Village idiot. His concern was that if he didn’t jump on the Obama bandwagon it would affect his career.

  50. His jaw fascinates me. Is it on a “hinge” or is that for real?

  51. Excellent post and comments. So nice to wake up to especially since I’m feeling under the weather today.

    For some reason my son had tuned in to BO’s performance on Monday so my husband and I caught a little of it. I was listening from the next room because I can’t stand looking at him. It amazes me how so many words can come out of that man’s mouth and yet he never says anything. He just wanders around in his self-generated word fog. My husband likened him to a kid who came to class unprepared for his book report.

    My heart sinks further every day as I realize the next four years are going to be even worse than I expected.

    I have hospital chauffeur duty again today so I’m outta here. Have a good day all!

  52. toe licker dick morris HATES Hillary Clinton

    He blames her for his own scandal

  53. myiq: Yep. He was only waiting to find one argument here to justify jumping onboard the Obama Express to Nowhere. He was so far over our heads by talking down to us that I began to skip over most of his comments. Explanations began to appear dense and he lost me at “hello”.

  54. Thank you for repeating that, HRC won the Democratic primary but BO was handed the Nomination. The people who know this will never forget; but some still need to learn the history of the stolen Nomination. (When I give up trying to get BO out of the White House, I will concentrate on changing those state laws that paid for the primary contest of a political party who rigged the contest.)

  55. From wiki:

    On August 29, 1996, Morris resigned from the Clinton campaign after reports surfaced that he had been involved with a prostitute. A tabloid newspaper had obtained and published a set of photographs of Morris and the woman on a Washington, D.C., hotel balcony. The Electronic Telegraph reported unverified claims that in order to impress the woman, Sherry Rowlands, Morris invited her to listen in on conversations with the President. The Telegraph also alleged that Morris had a preference for “toe-sucking and dominance,” and that he regaled Rowlands with a version of “Popeye the Sailor Man,” performed in his underpants.

  56. bostonboomer, on February 11th, 2009 at 9:21 am Said:

    SM,

    You remember because you are awake and aware and able to resist the all-encompassing mass hypnosis that is the consensus reality. Some of us have maintained the ability to think for ourselves.

    Yep! Children definitely can perceive something’s not right with the world. Here was Reagan & Wall Street pouring with cash, TV says all is A-OK and then my town had 5-6 mills & factory plants close down back to back. In the 1980s in Lawrence, you could not escape the smell of burning wood. It was everywhere. Selling a house was next to impossible – so they burned them down to collect the insurance money. It was really, really bad.

    And this is definitely a class war issue.

    I’m off to the county clinic again – ZithroMax didn’t do what it was supposed to do. I’m at the point where I’m spraying Lysol down my throat if I don’t get some friggin meds that work.

  57. For someone who writes excellent posts on a consistent basis, this has to be your best. You explained what I feel and think so very succinctly and with such dignity. Thank you. I am going to copy this and in the future whenever someone asks me why I am upset with what happened last year and what will happen in the next four I will simply hand them a copy of this. EXCELLENT!!!!!!

  58. Anyone who thought, even for a quick minute, that HRC would be permitted to do her job please raise their hands.

  59. He was only waiting to find one argument here to justify jumping onboard the Obama Express to Nowhere

    Which i gave him when I called him a “little f**king ray of sunshine”

    But I owe him and Palomino for “petulant clown” so it’s all good.

  60. SM: Are you from Lawrence Mass? My daddy was born there, but grew up in Andover. I remember long years ago going up in the summertime to see my grandparents, go to the Shawsheen, to Revere Beach, etc. That’s actually why I’m from Georgia. The textile mills all moved south, and daddy was a textile engineer.

  61. And he went after madamab and gary over absolutely nothing as well. Petulance is so unattractive. And lacking a sense of humor I might add. “See my brilliance. You don’t? I’m out of here!”.

  62. chatblu, I think Hillary *will* be allowed to do her job. A big part of her job is revamping the State Department and turning it back into a professional organization after all the damage done by Condoleeza Rice. She seems to be starting out well there. Also, Hillary will be the one traveling abroad and meeting with other heads of state and diplomats. I anticipate that they will have a positive reaction to her obvious intelligence and diplomacy. Obama would be ill-advised not to use someone that foreign government leaders respect and trust. Powers and Rice are simply people who have been elevated by Obama. Hillary has been elevated by her own track record.

  63. Honest to goddess, RD. This is one of your best yet. Says it all and says it well.

    Thanks.

    But I’m still rooting for Hillary in 2016.

  64. Dick Morris has CDS but he especially hates Hillary.

    Don’t fall for his pretense of caring about her.

  65. This post is absolutely right on! I cannot believe that the anger these Obots feel about their president’s clear failings gets rechanneled at people who don’t love Obama. B/c I think they are angry about it. Where else does Sirota’s tantrum come from? He knows the truth and can’t admit it. Not even 3 weeks in, his dude is a bust. This was really not a time to have someone learning on the job.

  66. Perfect, perfect.

    I’m going to keep this to send to every Obot who tells me to get over it.

  67. And he went after madamab and gary over absolutely nothing as well

    There were some emails and stuff we didn’t air publically that were truly bizarre.

    Petulance is so unattractive

    Hey!

  68. Dick Morris has CDS but he especially hates Hillary.

    Morris blames Hillary for throwing him overboard when he got busted in Hookergate.

  69. grayslady: No dispute that HRC has elevated herself into her position and is uniquely capable of performin g all attendant duties and obligations. I hope that you are right and I am wrong. I see more and more envoys, special ambassadors, etc etc etc.

  70. (APPLAUSE)

    Man. I join sm77 in wishing RD would do this more often. Or hell, post more often in general…

  71. A perfect shredding of Sirota, RD. Bravo! Elegantly brilliant.

  72. Loved it!
    Especially the summing up of the Clinton years with the adverse political situations. Obama has it all – and begs the opposition to make him triangulate. When they refuse to oblige, he backs off anyway (see family planing and rendition)
    and miq2xu
    I think Dick’s hatred for Hillary is way older than Hookergate. It was an old power struggle that culminated in his advice to Bill to blame the Lewinski disaster on Hillary. It was at that point that he was dismissed – and he obviously blames her for it.

  73. Help!!! Spammy got me in moderation and I can’t get up!

  74. This is a “grasping at straws” argument for Sirota. When all else fails (as in, you can’t actually explain and justify what Obama is doing) blame someone else (the Clintons are a natural target.)

    Incidentally, just as an aside, “sirota” (accent on the “a”) in Russian means “dampness.”

  75. Bravo, riverdaughter. What a wonderful essay and corrective history lesson.
    Bill Clinton did an amazing job especially as he was surrounded by the long knives of the Republicans and their lackeys in the Press (“The American Spectator” was born for the precise goal of destroying Bill and Hillarly Clinton).
    I believe that history will rate Clinton as one of the “near greats.” He left the country in peace, with a balanced budget (and surpluses to come) and twenty million new jobs. Not too shabby.
    Did you happen to catch the rerun of “The Secret History of the Credit Card” on PBS? One of the best things that Obama could do for the American people is to signal that he wants to see the end of “universal default” right now. Univeral default is how your Visa card holder can jack up your rate because you were two weeks late paying an utility bill.
    Any chance of Vice President MBNA allowing Obama to do that? I don’t think so.

  76. Felizarte: RD sets the tone each day by posting a brilliant piece that sets the ball rolling. She is then joined by other brilliant Front Pagers who build upon the original throughout the day or add new perspectives to the discourse.

    Boston Boomer, katiebird, myiq, dakinikat, taggles, madamab, Lady Boomer, SM, and others who tweak the dialogue and raise the temperature of discussion.

    The beauty of this blog is that it asks nothing in return only that one remain civil to each another and maintain an open mind.

    The unification is spelled out precisely in her essay today, a known factor in what holds this blog together. We are Democrats in exile. Nothing more.

  77. NH, on February 11th, 2009 at 9:11 am Said:

    I don’t care for dick morris, but I fear he is right this time, and Hillary’s job as SOS is going to be undercut. I do think she gave up a seat in the Senate for nothing.

    http://thehill.com/dick-morris/hillarys-incredible-shrinking-role-2009-02-09.html

    No, no, no. I actually do think Obama, or rather Jim Jones, are trying to consolidate power inside the WH. Doesn’t mean it will happen. But what good would it have done Hill to be in the Senate while Obama pushed his lame ass “stimulus”? No, she knew what was coming, and she wanted a role that would separate her from Obama’s dumb economic policies.

  78. DYB,

    LOL! Sirota means “dampness” in Russian? That’s a classic. Damp and limp.

  79. Sirota falls back on the argument that Hillary wouldn’t be any better and McCain would be worse.

    Okay Dave, then you need to compare Bill to GHW Bush and Dole, not an ideal liberal.

  80. You said it, Pat. RD is our anchor. Every morning she produces an amazing, thought-provoking piece of writing. I would love it if she had time and energy to comment more, but I don’t know what I would do without her morning posts. On days when I wake up depressed, they raise my spirits, and other other days they compel me to think more clearly.

  81. As kids we were asked “if so and so jumped off a bridge would you do it too?” Sirota replied in the affirmative.

  82. Could not be said better, by anyone, anywhere, at anytime. Perfect.

  83. We are Democrats in exile

    And our consolation prize is getting to say “might have been” and “we told you so” for the next four years.

    Sirota got his wish, we didn’t. He’s on the hook, we’re not.

  84. I think the public’s fascination with Capt. Sully and now his crew (since the good captain made it clear over and over than one man didn’t do it alone) is part of a hankering for actual, bona fide competence. Genuine competence born of experience and practice, practice, practice. He’s not rock star gorgeous; he’s intelligent, capable, and experienced.

    Then I think wistfully that if his impeccable ditching in the Hudson had occurred during the primaries last year that it might have reminded people that experience is so very important, more important than being a teleprompter rock star.

    Then I have to try to not tear up.

  85. Ex-act-ly.

  86. It is so easy to wake up depressed these days but her writing sparks something from within. Then myiq makes an off the wall comment that lightens the mood and we maintain balance once again.

    Each Front Pager is blessed with their own original voice but again, the commonality is that we are Dems in exile who reserve the right to maintain that status for as long as it takes until the party corrects itself.

    We are in a for a long haul.

  87. Especially this part:

    Don’t tell us to STFU. You and your dreamy eyed Obot friends got us to this point. You owe the rest of the country an apology for not sticking up for the integrity of the voting process. You owe us big time for not standing up to sexism and propaganda instead of indulging in it. You lost your heads in a frenzy of Obama love while the rest of us trembled with fear of an upcoming economic downturn. We kept our heads and now we have the right and obligation to speak up. And we’re going to do that every chance we get.

  88. LiVo, on February 11th, 2009 at 10:36 am Said:
    Could not be said better, by anyone, anywhere, at anytime. Perfect
    ——-

    Second that, LiVo!

    Thanks RD! Wow!

  89. Interesting but Riverdaughter misses an important moment in Sirota history. The real moment to tie this into is his attack on Tina Richards.

    Elaine and Mike went right there last night
    http://likemariasaidpaz.blogspot.com/2009/02/feminism-and-deranged-david-sirota.html
    http://wwwmikeylikesit.blogspot.com/2009/02/schuyler-fisk-good-and-other-things-bad.html

    As C.I. (of the Common Ills) would say, for those late to the party . . .

    Tina Richards is the mother of Iraq War veteran Cloy Richards (a member of Iraq Veterans Against the War) who suffers from PTSD. Tina confronted David Obey — alleged progressive and Sirota’s former boss — in the halls of Congress about Congress doing nothing to help the veterans or end the Iraq War.

    Her thanks for that was to have David Sirota post a screaming screed online attacking her as stupid and insisting Obey was progressive.

    We all know better about Obey today but Sirota, who worked for him before ‘returning’ to journalism, should have known better.

    And excuse me but when the right wing moves in and out of politics and journalism we call them out on it. Why don’t we start doing the same with those ‘friends’ supposedly on the left with us?

  90. He’s not rock star gorgeous; he’s intelligent, capable, and experienced.

    He had to do something you don’t get to practice – a dead stick landing in a river. A jet airplane without engines is a flying brick.

  91. And this:

    He can’t accept that Obama was off of our radar for experience related reasons. In fact, I would have preferred Biden or Dodd to Obama.

    I would prefer Biden right now. He would think before throwing trillions around like it’s nothing.

  92. RD, you really caught the sense of that gen and the years they grew up in this piece. It seems like they were good times aplenty — (not for the people who were burning houses above) but overall in the country — there was only the Gulf War, then? No Vietnam to remember.

    Times were good and that is all they have ever known until that beret deal which appears to have stuck in their little craws…

    So, their hatred of Clinton or McCain is/was obscene to any thinking Dem.

    That Daschle deal? — that is obscene and unethical.

    Sick.

    Really sick.

    One of the problems with this type of Narcissism?

    No empathy — only an empty hole where that might have been.

    Hillary and McCain would have been heroic pilots.

    Now, the country is going to look for the biggest scapegoat, ever.
    It won’t be pretty as that happens. Why we wanted Hillary was because of her graceful smarts to get us out of the most toxic era we have ever seen.

    You said everything in this one. RD you did.

  93. And excuse me but when the right wing moves in and out of politics and journalism we call them out on it.

    Cops and crooks don’t switch back and forth.

  94. What LiVo said.

    You’ve encapsulated my thought processes and emotions for the past nine months in :

    “There are many things that Sirota isn’t getting about the past election…………….”

    I’ll never get over this:

    “We’re the people whose votes were callously cast away because we wanted someone else.”

  95. Atrios today:

    Many in the elite press corps were horrified that Sam Stein was allowed to ask Obama a question.

    It’s funny: the netroots keeps the media in line. We keep the netroots in line.

  96. Great post, RD!

    The media is still proping up obama.

  97. Great post RD! It’s important to counter the constant rewrite of history from just last year! Sirota needed a few , brisk wacks upside his head. It seems he thinks the Clinton’s rip away his Regan pacifier and he’s been crying ever since. Besides you don’t advance your media career treating the Clinton’s fairly…on the contrary.

    IMO, if Hillary won the nomination, the financial meltdown would not have happened when it did. If Hill won the White House, the melt down would be started now…

    I believe I read somewhere that in Oct someone withdrew massive amounts of cash from banks etc. and that started what we have now. The economy was set for a fall for some time…but the timing was to benifit Barry ….. Why am I not surprised.

    The Clitons’s sin is they see to it the average person get something. … the average person is always at thier table . To the Villagers, this consideration of the wee people is unforgivable .

  98. At the risk of sounding crude, or being banned, or being sent to moderation….

    I’d say you just knocked Sirota’s d*ck in the dirt.

    Game , set, match.

    Well, done, RD.

    Perhaps young Mr. Sirota will gain some wisdom and actually LISTEN to his wiser elders next time.

    But don’t hold your breath.

    Thank you for this post. I’ve been thinking everything you wrote for the last 2 weeks.

  99. Keesha,

    I’m so glad you brought that up! That post by Sirota is the one that made me see what a fraud he is. He was defending the Democrats for caving to the Democrats on Iraq just because Rep. Obey (whom Sirota had worked for) was claiming they were doing the right thing. Of course it turned out Obey was just another lying liar, and Sirota never admitted that. After that I was so disgusted with him that I could never trust anything he wrote.

  100. Paper Doll: I have wondered about that rumor too. I keep my tin foil hat handy these days – it is sort of like the x-files in real life.

  101. Why don’t we start doing the same with those ‘friends’ supposedly on the left with us?

    We do. You will find few here who do not criticize those in our own party or those pundits and talking heads who rolled over and played dead for this candidate. Most of us would admit that we were bitterly disappointed as time went on last year to find those who we once held in high regard jumped onboard the Obama Express and used Hillary Clinton as their punching bag.

    Few of us here subscribe to any Repub beliefs or spokespersons. We aren’t that dumb yet. We know what the Repubs have done, especially during the last 8 years and before that their daily insane lynching of Clinton, but we also feel free to call out those on either side who do not serve our interests.

    The MSM acted in concert followed by those super delegates who sold out principle on behalf of political expediency. All I can add is that this is an equal opportunity blog. Sell outs, blowhards, misrepresentations, all suffer alike.

  102. And Sirota didn’t just attack Tina R. He called all of us “stupid f&cking liberals.” He fell for Obama’s lies just like he fell for Obey’s and now he’s all upset. Tough!

  103. Great post RD. The fascination and admiration for Capt. Sully and crew is truly a public yearning for real competence. The performance of Geithner yesterday was a colossal display of incompetence. His lack of clarity and resolve on toxic assets was a tragic failure of strategy. The problem Geithner has and Obama has is that they are going to be held accountable to the financial markets—US and international. What Obama just had handed to him is his empty head with the message, “Thanks but no thanks.” Only the national media and Obots are still swooning and slobbering over the alleged brilliance of “the one”.

  104. I am really concerned about the health care revisions in the MR part of this stimulus package. Where is AARP? Everyone, please email AARP and speak your concern.

  105. Again, in moderation and not a cup of coffee in sight!

  106. Sam Stein’s (whom I never heard of before this) bio makes it clear he’s no outsider:

    Sam Stein is a Political Reporter at the Huffington Post, based in Washington, D.C. Previously he has worked for Newsweek magazine, the New York Daily News and the investigative journalism group Center for Public Integrity. He has a masters from the Columbia University Graduate School of Journalism and is a graduate of Dartmouth College.

  107. Absolutely brilliant, RD. Your description of the stolen nomination and Obama’s terrible campaign is excellent.

  108. plural, Thanks for your post pointing out the absurdity of Morris’ article. Does anyone here really think Hillary would let herself be marginalized, even if there was a real attempt to do that? Trust me, she can take care of herself.

  109. Sully is a hero because he was doing a job he was trained for and never wavered.

    A-Rod admits to steroid abuse. Phelps is sucking up marijuana. The nominees for the cabinet are tax evaders. The banks are laughing all the way to, well the banks I guess. The economy is imploding. The last administration lied us into war. No one can be believed.

    No wonder Sully is held up as a prize. He is all we’ve got.

  110. I knew the MSM would start pushing this “marginalized” meme once Hillary took the SoS job because they’re always looking for ways to demean her. We shouldn’t even pay attention to it.

  111. Pat Johnson, on February 11th, 2009 at 11:03 am
    Pat, per usual, you sum it up nicely

  112. Egads and Gadzooks!!!!! TESTIFY, RD!! TESTISFY!!!!!

    Is anyone aware if Sirota is aware of this b*itchslap (no other way to put it) of a post? I might pay good money to see the look on his face as he read it.

    On second thought, I would pay good money to see his face as he’s called out.

  113. Sirota falls back on the argument that Hillary wouldn’t be any better and McCain would be worse.

    Yeah, just like the now-unhappy Bushies console themselves with ‘Gore would have been worse’.

    Here’s a quick message to Sirota and his fellow Obots – you own this mess. We told you during the primary that Obama was too inexperienced to run a country, uninterested in anyone but himself, and overly enamored of ‘bipartisanship’ . You didn’t listen. So now, what do we have? A president who’s in way over his head, doesn’t give a rat’s ass about ordinary people, and sucks up to Republicans. Quelle surprise.

    You morons saddled us all with an empty suit at the moment of our greatest economic crisis since the Great Depression. You think this is going to turn out well? All you have left is telling yourself that Hillary would have been worse. You’re cowards as well as fools.

  114. PYW, on February 11th, 2009 at 11:04 am
    Indeed, and I’m surprised it took this long lol! We can tell Hill’s real level of success by how many such stories appear. In this media, truth is found via inference

  115. RD — Great post!

    Damned straight, Hillary would have done better out of the gate, absolutely.

    Candidate Hillary Clinton had detailed plans and programs for cities, states, federal, families, women, children, education, health care, housing, foreign policy, military — in her speeches and on her unfortunately scrubbed website. The plans were fleshed out, had facts and figures of the current situation and what the proposed plans and programs would do to turn things around.

    If Hillary were President right now, the mood in the country would be much more settled, because she would be setting out specifics that give people actual hope of things turning, rather than chastising the American public and those that got us here. She had/has compassion and principles, so the overall vision guiding her policies would be laid out clearly and in an understandable manner.

    How can I make that assessment? She’s always operated that way in her life and career and gives us no reason to think she’d do anything differently now.

  116. Thanks for this RD — dead on. Sirota et al need to get their heads out of Obama’s a$$ & open a history book re: the Clinton WH. I’m sick to death of the revisionist history spun by our corporate overlords. It’s *almost* as bad as the revisionist history being spun by the Obots re: Dear Leader. Thanks for setting the record straight. I’ve been there for both & I’m going to keep believing my lying eyes.

  117. Poor David Sirota. He’s so-o on the defensive. And it’s only been two weeks! He’s going to need therapy. He and Morris should team up and go together.

  118. paper doll, on February 11th, 2009 at 10:49 am Said:

    Besides you don’t advance your media career treating the Clinton’s fairly…on the contrary.

    The Clitons’s sin is they see to it the average person get something. … the average person is always at thier table . To the Villagers, this consideration of the wee people is unforgivable .

    In a nutshell, paper doll!

  119. Torchwood: It will get to him in time. Bet on it. The Obots read this blog on a daily basis. We are fodder for them.

  120. Excuse the ‘french’, but goddamn I LOVE you RD!

    I’m forwarding this post to everyone I know.

  121. Lady Boomer NYC, on February 11th, 2009 at 11:10 am

    You outlined perfectly why the top 1% could not allow Hill in. You don’t get bailouts if someone is fixing the problem….
    I think that nails it .

  122. here’s the deal…how could any candidate with 85 million from the american taxpayers beat a candidate with 635 million from who knows where it came from
    it was bought not just with money alone because it took the media to make it a homerun.

  123. Unfortunately, Obama does not come with a “money back guarantee” or a “no questions asked” return policy. We are stuck with him for 4 years at least.

  124. Sirota: “I have nothing to apologize for. Nothing at all”.

    Really, nothing. It’s not his fault. He’s like a kid throwing a tantrum and holding his hands over his ears and crying, STFU, STFU to PUMA’s.

  125. RD & myiq2xu, you’ll love this:

    Your post inspired me, RD, and while I was crusing on Digby’s Hullabaloo site, reading her constantly avoiding blaming anything on the Precious One, I called her out for trashing anybody she could to avoid seeing Obama for what he is, and we all knew, he was.

    It’s bizarre, really, how she avoids , like Sirota, holding Obama accountable for his choices. It’s everybody else’s fault, and never his.

    Well……..she immediately banned me.

    Thin-skinned, ain’t she? Oh well.

    LOL

  126. RD: Don’t forget to respond to the most glaring insult in his piece–he actually states that Obama is the REAL progressive and Hillary is not, and that poor Bambi has to “clean up” after the Clintons.

    Huh?!

    Did he miss his FISA vote, his reversal on campaign finance, the expansion of faith based initiatives, and Bush’s executive powers for “flexibility.” Then, there is the ambivalence about choice, and his clear anti-feminist orientation (how many women are in his administration compared to Clinton?).

    Love is blind.

  127. Then again, I think you’ve all got it wrong. Ruth Marcus schooled me this morning. Bambi is actually doing quite well, you see. Nothing to see here, just keep moving, all is well. ANYONE would have a hard time–it’s not his fault.

    In Retrospect, Not Such a Bad Start for Obama
    By Ruth Marcus

    WASHINGTON — To everyone out there despairing — or rejoicing — about the Obama administration’s supposedly rocky start: Settle down. It’s actually going rather well.

    So if you’re feeling jittery about Obama’s start, ask yourself this: Is there another president in recent memory who would have done better?

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2009/02/in_retrospect_not_such_a_bad_s.html

  128. in the mornings I usually read River’s daily post and move on — this morning I must say this — i am proud to be an independent thinker who comes here to with others

  129. If you want to see what Hillary is really doing, check out the state dept website, which is really good and full of info about her.

    Better yet, sign up for email updates, as I have done. You’ll get 3-4 a day (or more, depending on what yu sign up for).

  130. Thank you for this post RD. I am not holding my breath for the apology. Sirota is a menace as are his compadres.

  131. For the record: Ed Schultz was a one time Repub who switched over to Dem. Not unlike Kos and HuffPo architects which must tell us something.

  132. plural,

    Sam Stein has been around a looooong time. He is a bona fide D.C. institution. Personal anecdote: Eons ago when I was a know-nothing cub reporter I called him to interview him for a story I was writing. He could not have been more helpful and patient even with my dum-dum questions.

  133. On a NQ article I wrote the comment about dysfunctional families is perfect… Obama has always reminded me of my nephew, who has been coddled & protected & enabled his whole life (26 years) and is now throwing away a great college scholarship, wallowing around in self-pity because, surprise! the rest of the world, like professors, employers, etc. do NOT always enable you!!! There are consequences! Not everyone loves you! Not everyone gives you money & a glass of wine when you fail a test! I think that Obama had that kind of over-compensated childhood/young adulthood, despite his pathetic claims to deprivation…He seems like a spoiled adult who does not know his limits…And we are ALL about to find out.

  134. Magnificent piece. Clear and Cogent. You are in fine form, RD.

  135. Excellent post. I think the phrase “our eyes were wide open…we knew what was at stake” is so true. One thing that I have seen as pretty much universal amongst most of us is an authentic caring about people and our country, the life experience that has taught us that this is no joke, all of this is crucially important because people’s lives, livelihood, happiness, and freedoms are in the balance. There are real consequences, it is not just a game.

  136. Joe Scarborough said this about Hillary after it was over: [typing from memory]

    As a red-state kind of guy, I would have been most comfortable with her picking up that 3am call. … That’s a hell of an achievement.

  137. Excellent post, RD, thank you, also for a cristal clear outline of what happened during the primaries.

  138. Seeing Ed Schultz’s grinning face looking up at Helen Thomas and Obama yesterday made me lose it. I could not have been more disgusted if I’d seen Rush sitting there beaming at Bush.

  139. Re: Morris’ piece on Hillary, I commented on that last night, and want to repeat it here. I get the Daily Press Briefings from the SOS office too, and two days ago, Hillary was asked about the Special Envoy assignments of Holbrooke & Mitchell. She explained clearly that it was HER idea. On a trip to Afghanistan, Pakistan, and other countries in 2007, she had the idea for focused assignments for turbulent regions. When Obama approached her about the SOS position, she suggested the idea, and he liked it. She expanded on it, and it was adopted. So, Dickie, this is actually the structure SHE has designed for the State Dept. Also, she is well-respected by Jones, and Biden, I think, was her biggest advocate for the position of SOS–he seems to really care about and admire her. So where’s the problem Dick? Samantha Powers? Rice? With all due respect, they are out of their league when it comes to Hillary Clinton. I think she can handle herself just fine, thank you.

    Now go suck some toes.

  140. Ed Schulz? I’m doubly glad I didn’t watch.

  141. As long as Obama has enablers like Ruth Marcus he will do fine. Like a “helicopter Mom”, she will always be there with the cookies and milk to ease him along when things don’t always go his way. One of those cheering Moms in the grandstand who, when Jr. strikes out at bat, is heard yelling, “way to go!” when silence would be the better course.

    The “helicopter Mom” who types his term papers. Fills out his job applications. Picks up his clothes and excuses his failures and excesses with platitudes. Who lives in the principle’s office “demanding” the teacher do better. The Mom who never finds fault since this is her “creation” and the world must see him as perfect as she does.

    With a host of Ruth Marcuses cheering him from the stands, undeservedly or not, he is a sure winner.

  142. Here’s a frightening thought: Rahm Emmanuel in charge of the Census. What next? Donna Brazile, Head of the Census Department? Redistricting, here we come! First call: ACORN, they’ll have a lot more work to do, and with the bailout funds, we can employee millions of them!

    Why Obama Wants Control of the Census
    Counting citizens is a powerful political tool.

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123423384887066377.html

  143. Pat: that’s exactly what I called her in the Comments section–an Obama cheerleader (and sycophant, among other choice words). They’re pathetic. Even when he is stumbling around like a bad drunk, they’re praising him and/or making excuses for his blatant incompetence.

  144. One of those cheering Moms in the grandstand who, when Jr. strikes out at bat, is heard yelling, “way to go!” when silence would be the better course…

    LOL! Thanks for the laugh!!

  145. Pat Johnson: We are stuck with him for 4 years at least.

    I’m worried it will be longer. Someone who watched Obama’s speeches over the last few days wrote this (purposely not linked):

    Barack Obama is one of the most articulate, intelligent, thoughtful, dedicated, work-ethic oriented men to occupy the office of the presidency in my lifetime. And when I was born the president was Franklin Roosevelt. […] That’s why I’m now declaring myself to having now become a member of a brand new classification of the American electorate. I am now something I’m calling an “Obama Republican”.

    The mass delusion is frightening.

  146. Thanks RD, for succinctly reminding people why we voted against Obama, have always been against him an always will. I fear Obama does not have the depth to care about really turning this country’s economic challenges around. Perhaps there is some payoff for him if the bailout fails, in terms of more socialist ideologies which he really wants, nationalizing banks and everything in America under HIS control. You are right, the Hudson landing was proof positive that EXPERIENCE MATTERS. I think people voted for Obama in record numbers because they trusted his sincerity (a mistake we did not make) but now want to see just how the trillions will be spent. He seems surprised that anyone would question him or anything he says, that we all should just follow him blindly like so many millions did in the primaries and general election. But reality has set in and Americans WANT TO KNOW HOW THIS GARGANTUAN BILL WILL HELP THE ECONOMY. They know no longer want smooth speeches and pretty platitudes. Obama is in way over his head, Hudson River or otherwise.

  147. LESS is MORE, on February 11th, 2009 at 11:45 am
    I have seen this over and over… when the kid gets older , or the consequences of thier failure is out of the parents hands, and they are allowed to fail , it’s brutal. Failure is like a disease. It would be much better to experience it naturally and earlier ….so you develop skills or emotional l antibodies to deal with it….if you aren’t allowed to do so, it can be fatal later on .

  148. Sanda: that’s depressing, and it really is frightening. People are incredibly impressionable when it comes to “fancy” talk–and it’s only magnified in contrast to Bush’s unparalleled inability to string two words together. Now, just because Obama can offer a sermon (that I find derivative, boring and detached), they swoon. Dumbing down indeed.

  149. they’re praising him and/or making excuses for his blatant incompetence

    My favorite Obot rationalization is that Obama is operating at such a high level that what looks like incompetence is really part of a clever plan.

  150. Awesome post RD.

    I think the chatter that HRC is being undermined as SOS is just that, chatter! Hillary has been so busy since she was confirmed. I visit statedotgov every day to get my Hillary news, her schedule, etc. The state site has all of her press conferences with all the foreign leaders that has met with her so far. Don’t believe the talk about Biden over involvement in foreign policy. Per her schedule, she meets with him weekly for breakfast at the VP residence.
    Yesterday she met wth the Czech foreign minister and during presser, she spoke about her upcoming trip to Asia. Again, don’t expect to see this in the MSM, I believe in going to the source for my information.

  151. It does not matter how badly he does in the next four years. And I am going out on a limb in saying so now, but if the GOP puts Jeb Bush, Huckabee, Romney or Sarah Palin against him in 2012 he will waltz right back in unfettered.

    There is as much a dearth of new ideas, visionaries, and standouts over there as there is with the Dems. Same old, same old platitudes repeated and pointed out to us about what is wrong but who lack the depth or the cajones to tell us how to correct it.

    Corporate owned and packaged.

  152. myiq:

    My favorite Obot rationalization is that Obama is operating at such a high level that what looks like incompetence is really part of a clever plan.

    lol

  153. fif — I agree — what Sandra posted is depressing & frightening. But I think it isn’t that people are incredibly impressionable I think they are a bunch of morons & suckers.

  154. Obama’s bestest speech sent the stocks tumbling down and the NYC tabloids noticed
    http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2009/02/11/nyc-tabloids-do-stimulus/

  155. “fif & Pat J.”
    Obama’s moves so far are ensuring his Political position until 2016 ( possibly beyond if they can “change things”).
    These “Stimulus” & “Faith-Based” plans give:
    *$$ to the ACORN
    *Control of our Census (remember IL?? the “changed the
    district lines so BO could win locally)
    *And for FUN they’ll have all our medical records.
    WOW & he hasn’t even been Pres. for “1” month.

  156. Okay, I just retrieved the mail and my copy of Vanity Fair has his face on the cover and the issue devoted to “change”!

    There must be a law out there to avoid this home invasion and stalking. Is there no escape? Next month she is on Vogue’s cover. At least I canceled that one a few years back.

  157. Wow, it’s late in the game on this thread, but this is an outstanding post, RD. Thank you, thank you.

    But I do have one question: how the hell do you hold down a job, spend time with the fambly, and find time to write these well thought out posts??? I’ve been wondering about that one for a while now.

  158. Kat5: Much the way that Hillary does I would guess. A commitment to saying and doing what needs to said and done with flashes of brilliance throughout.

  159. “So if you’re feeling jittery about Obama’s start, ask yourself this: Is there another president in recent memory who would have done better?”

    Yeah, as a matter of fact, there is: Bill Clinton.

  160. and find time to write these well thought out posts

    Believe it or not she knocked this post out in about 30 minutes.

    I was awake (zombie-style) early this am and I saw from the admin screen she had started a draft so I used “preview” to peek.

  161. Excellent post. Expresses exactly what I’ve been thinking. I plan on sharing this with everyone I know.

  162. by the word, articulate, does he mean obama can say “strong” unlike his wife

  163. Amen RD!! This is an excellent post!

  164. Thanks for the warning, Pat. I’ll instruct my husband to rip off the cover when my copy of VF hits the mailbox this week. VF has long had a serious disconnect b/t (some of) its editorial/reporting content and its Total Glitz & Big Bucks ad pages. VF is now trying to cash in on the Change b.s. and that’s turning my stomach.

    As for the New Yorkers, unread issues have been piling up for a while now, ever since my favorite magazine morphed into Obama wallpaper (ugh ugh ugh). I’ve actually been ripping out photos of Obama in order to read articles in newspaper and magazines, since I find I can’t concentrate on content with That Face staring at me. I did the same thing w/photos of Bush II.

  165. I picked up a copy of Politico the other day. His face was on the front page. I turned it over, and he was also on the back. And on pages three and four, plus others.

    It’s like the old Soviets, with Big Brother staring at you as you buy groceries, ride public transportation, etc. etc.

  166. I have canceled Time, Newsweek, The Nation, The Progressive, The New Yorker, but I just can’t cancel my People or Vanity Fair. I just can’t. I love the “diss” too much.

    I have avoided much of the talking heads on cable with an exception of a peek every now and then and have deleted former friendly blogs from my Bookmarks.

    But I need, crave, want, desire, must have my People and Vanity Fair! I have so little left. My shallow arteries demand their due!

  167. Wall Street could crash, 25% of Americans could be unemployed, and Social Security could be dismantled tomorrow and Sirota would be on his knees begging for more. Poor, sad little creature. I saw them all the time on fraternity row in college. The sh*t they’d put up with to fit with their abusers so they could be “cool” and trash women and folks who weren’t rich enough to be a part of their Village. Obama just unleashed this type of sh*t that you’d only expect from 18 year olds and brought it to Washington. Jon Favreau and his gang are worshiped. Sirota and the press corps just want to be included. Anything that degrades the Clintons and her ugly, bitter, redneck supporters is just fine by him.

  168. I used to keep a picture of G-dub on my wall.

    It covered my dartboard

  169. I can’t stand the sight of Obama either. I cancelled most of my magazines for that reason. On the other hand, delusional Obots will pay 2-3 times the value (sometimes a lot more) for these mags on ebay. Something about taking their money makes me happy.

  170. did you all take a look at the composition of Banking CEO’s testifying in Congress today?

    http://money.cnn.com/2009/02/11/news/companies/congress_banks/?postversion=2009021110

    Don’t worry you won’t be shocked!

  171. Infrastructure spending would have already been don e and we would be almost a year into it had the Senate bothered to listen to Hillary. She wanted money spent on government programs. Obama and the GOP wanted checks. How DID that go again? Oh right……..that’s why we are doing infrastructure spending NOW…… If Sirota is playing alternate reality he ought to be chided just like the folks who say if McCain were elected we’d be in the same shape. Indulging in some fantasy where you pretend you know the outcome had we chosen a different president is absurd. I’d even call it as absurd as playing dress up and landing on an aircraft carrier. It’s time for the Obama apologists to admit they got caught up in their mob mentality and never even bothered to think about what the consequences should he actually win. Shame on them all because that was the discussion many of us were attempting to provoke when we asked questions such as how does his health care policy translate to universal care, how does he intend to govern etc, etc. Instead of thinking they chose to get down and dirty and called us a bunch of racists…….Frankly, I’m not impressed.

  172. Thank you RD and all Conflucians!

    I come here everyday and along with PumaPac, HeidiLi and Tom in Paine and others in the Pumasphere I’m able to keep my wits about me in these gloomy days.

    I’m normally an optimist but nothing about this O administration bodes well, nothing. The saddest aspect is that the poor, especially inner city AAs will get screwed the worst. Breaking the color barrier with an inept, corrupt narcissist was a perverse victory.

    SM77 before you put Lysol down your throat try propolis – a substance bee’s use to keep their hives healthy. It is anti-viral, antiseptic and antibacterial. You can dribble it down the back of your throat. It tastes faintly honey-like.

    back to lurking

    on the prowl
    Madazhel

  173. Taggles, I saw the same photo on the NYTimes site and thought about posting a link. I’m quite sure I had the very same thoughts you had re that very special group of Change agents.

  174. This weekend, I spent the night at the home of a dear friend. In the guest room, I spotted a magazine with the Obamas on the cover, and then a copy of The Audacity on the bookshelf. I hid the magazine under another book before I went to sleep.

    What was most upsetting to me is how naive my friend is about the Obamas. She truly believes they will change things for the better. She has started up a wonderful non-profit organization and she is convinced that MO will help her. In fact, she mailed a proposal to MO at the White House. Of course, she will never hear back from Michelle, but I did not have the heart to disillusion her. It’s like when you have stand back and let a child make a mistake so that he or she will figure out the truth on their own.

  175. Thank you for this RD.

  176. That photo of the bank execs reminds me of the tobacco executives some years ago who all swore their product wasn’t addictive.

  177. I am so thankful for this blog. It’s a port in the storm for rational, caring, intelligent people. (is that egotistical since I post here occasionally as well? 🙂

    I do feel more free though, after this past ‘selection’. No more having to tow the line for the Dems, no more pure disgust at republicans.

    Now it’s pretty much equal disgust for both.

  178. […] For those of you needing a more thorough history lesson, go to Riversdaughter post at the Confluence. […]

  179. Excuse the ‘french’, but goddamn I LOVE you RD!

    I’m forwarding this post to everyone I know.

    So many posts, so many to send!

  180. “Now it’s pretty much equal disgust for both.”

    =====================
    I second that. I have very little faith in anything anymore. I feel we will all just have to count on each other for support because everything that goverment touches turns to shit.

    I’m so pissed off at these fools who actually believed that Obamanation was going to change things.

  181. In the spam filter no one can hear you scream

  182. new post up.

  183. >Perhaps there is some payoff for him if the bailout fails, in terms of more socialist ideologies

    I can only say I wish Obama had socialist ideologies-if he did I would have voted for him. He is a center-Right pol, not a liberal (much less a leftist).

  184. Thanks RD!
    As usual, you put into words what many of us are feeling. I read that trash piece “Little Penis” wrote and I laughed. This little boy has a bad case of Clinton Derangement Syndrome! I wonder if his Mommy didn’t give him enough love as a child.

    Maybe his lack of “package” is a reason he seems to hate anything woman. He must have been ridiculed by a woman when he dropped his pants and produced a Pee-shooter!” How else do you rationalize his apparent hate of a strong woman?

    Just saying…..

  185. Pat Johnson, I don’t quite understand your response to my one-line comment on RD’s brilliant dissection of Sirota’s article. It felt like an oblique way of saying I have been uncivil in my comment. If I am mistaken for feeling that way, I apologize. As to all of us here being democrats in exile, I beg to differ: I am an American first. I will support Hillary Clinton for POTUS even without a party. I will also support anybody else but Obama if he should run again.

  186. Great Post, RD – they aren’t going to move off their support because – to them he looks great – because he and they all have about the same level of experience in life and work – How could they expect more if they don’t know what it would look like? In the famous words of Rumsfeld “there are those who don’t know what they don’t know.”
    👿

  187. I can only say I wish Obama had socialist ideologies-if he did I would have voted for him. He is a center-Right pol, not a liberal (much less a leftist).

    I knew he was a conservative by studying him. I studied the Clintons for 16 years too. Leftist and liberal PUMAs thought he was conservative, centrist and Republican PUMAs thought he was a socialist.

  188. Dear RD,
    This is an exceptionally fine overview and analysis.
    Thank you so much!!!

  189. Riverdaughter, once again girl you do us proud. I have not left a message on your blog before, but I read your posts almost every day. Met and hugged you in Denver and enjoy you on the blogradio.

    I am old enough to have waited all these years for my hero, Hillary to finally run for President and I will continue to tell anyone that will listen about the corruption in this election.

    Keep up the great posts ((((RD)))).

  190. ‘bipartisanship’

    Except that O’s version of this means “I won and I get to have things my way”. Not :Debate. Argue. Discuss . And then hammer out realistic and useful approaches that incorporate input from all sides and are for the benefit of the country and its residents. No just $$$ the Chicago thugs and their ilk and Patrons (many of whom control all those publishing houses for magazines which would explain all those covers as if O and the Mrs are Michael Jackson and Lisa Presley).

    In addition to the hidden health provisions, I have also seen that there are billions hidden to pay for the 2016 Olympics in – drum roll please – CHICAGO.

    And yes, it going around that the White House wants to control the census – a distinct detour from the past. The WH should not be any where near that – but coupled with all the pork for ACORN – this spells disaster. The numbers will be so bad no real planning can take place.

    RD – yes the captain was the leader in landing. He depended on his crew to do what he knew the could because, like him, they each had his/her own expertise and experience and they worked together – as a team. They had to have projected that sense of competence as the passengers remained relatively calm. With no panic to distract or disrupt things – they were able to then get everyone off the plane.

    O – well he is the rich kid who was allowed to steer the company plane as a perk and then simply let go when things got rough or he wanted to look out the window or go for a smoke. He is surrounded by people with all the wrong experience and is now actually trying to cause panic with his “catastrophic” approach.

    As to paper doll’s rumor – its been circulating around DC for months – along with the actions that would have been taken had O no managed to scrape by – McCain or Hillary would now be hit with wave after wave to try and insure they not actually try to get things back on track.

  191. OT but I thought I share this latest from a friend –

    Years ago when I sometimes used unsavory language, I often used the expression “Bull Sh**.” As I grew up a bit and discovered it was not
    necessary to use such crude language, that expression became “BS.”

    Q. What did I really mean when I used those expressions?
    A. I meant that something was ridiculous, or idiotic or a half truth or just stupid. It covered any number or negative formats. The dictionary defines it as: nonsense; especially: foolish insolent talk..

    I have decided that I no longer will use either of those expressions in the future. When I have a need to express such feelings, I will use the word “Pelosi.”

    Let me use it in a sentence. “That’s just a bunch of Pelosi.” I encourage you to do the same. It is such a good word. It really packs a lot of punch. We are no longer being vulgar. But it clearly expresses our
    feelings. If enough of us use it, perhaps the word could be entered into the dictionary. What an excellent legacy for the Speaker of the House!

  192. Sirota’s new post is rich:

    This is neither the time nor the place for those who say America should STFU and simply take orders, and this is not the time for “expert opinion” if “expert opinion” is (as the term always is) defined as “Establishment opinion.” We’ve been there, done that, and gotten shitted on because we took this kind of advice for way too long. It’s time that mass movements assert their will, and it’s time for power-worshiping sycophants of the eliteocracy to STFU.

    So he doesn’t want the Village to shut him up yet he told us to shut up yesterday?

  193. RD, this is a brilliant response and you get it exactly right. The only thing I would add is that the sense of betrayal when our party did to us what James Baker did to us in 2000 is something we will not get over.

    May I have permission to post this at my poor neglected blog?

  194. David S is a riot, doesn’t he know he is in support of the elitocracy party president?

    The masses voted for Hillary David, get a freaking grip.

  195. He called us sore losers.

    That’s what Republicans said in 2000.

  196. ghost2..Joe Scarborough is a Hillary fan, I think he would have voted for her. He once said that if the world were coming to an end the two people he would want to go in a room and fix it were Hillary and Dick Cheney. He admired the fact that each of them with their differing views were two of the most emotionally tough people in politics.

  197. Well said RD! Your mention of Sirota’s age, therefore the political milieu of his coming of age is right on the button. Moreover, my favoritePulitzer prize winning writer on tax inequity and transfer of wealth upward, David Cay Johnston, pointed out recently that the median age in USA is 37 , meaning half the population was born in 1962 or later.

  198. sm77 said:

    “I’m a Reagan kid and all I remember was everybody getting laid off from work, massive crime spikes in my neighborhood and people having to pay local gangs to burn down their houses just to be able to collect insurance money one it because they could sell them.
    I remember cheese lines and living in absolute fear of nuclear annihilation.
    Reagan kids were either very well off or in dire economic situations.”

    I’m one too and we were on welfare! My hubby remembers being the one of the few families in their neighborhoods whose dad was employed. Being one of the youngest of 7 kids, my family of origin is quite a herd of people. Under Clinton we all got ahead. Under W, we’ve suffered lay-offs, lost houses, lost 401Ks, have no health care (for some), the ones who were able to keep their jobs at the same position work for the government at some level.

    RD — I smiled, I cried, I guffawed at the true idiot you made Sirota to be. Well done!

  199. STFU? That’s nice. Many of us learned during the primary that dissent is not well tolerated by Obots. STFU is their rallying cry. Soon they will be exhorting others to “watch what they say”.

    Their success in shouting down dissenters is what drove many to this site and away from Eschaton and the Daily Kos.

    It’s funny, I haven’t felt so disconnected since the months after 9/11 when we were all expected to express fealty to George W. Chimp.

    Meet the new Dear Leader, same as the old Dear Leader.

  200. “This is neither the time nor the place for those who say America should STFU and simply take orders”

    Once again Sirota shows that he has been living under a big rock for the past 8 years. Bush’s and Cheney’s and Rumsfeld’s entire administration was about not “taking orders” from anyone. They’ve been flipping the world the bird for almost a decade. And Sirota thinks we should keep doing it? I guess he really did know he was voting for Bush III.

  201. sm77

    madazel 12.56 said

    SM77 before you put Lysol down your throat try propolis – a substance bee’s use to keep their hives healthy. It is anti-viral, antiseptic and antibacterial. You can dribble it down the back of your throat. It tastes faintly honey-like.

    Propolis is amazing stuff-I just cured incipient bronchitis with it.

  202. “As for the New Yorkers, unread issues have been piling up for a while now, ever since my favorite magazine morphed into Obama wallpaper (ugh ugh ugh). I’ve actually been ripping out photos of Obama in order to read articles in newspaper and magazines, since I find I can’t concentrate on content with That Face staring at me. I did the same thing w/photos of Bush II.”

    Kat5 — didn’t you see that special about Chavez on PBS — to be able to wallpaper your home with Obama’s image is the point !

    😉

  203. Thank you for this, riverdaughter. I had recently started going back to OL and reading Sirota. After that post the other day, I lost any respect I was gaining for him. You’re right on re: his over the top CDS.

  204. Felizarte: You must have misunderstood my comment. It was my way of explaining what I think this blog represents. It was not meant as a criticism of you by any means.

  205. Dave exactly three weeks ago:

    A Day of Worthy Self-Congratulation
    I’d just like to take a moment not to congratulate Barack Obama, but to congratulate all of us – America – for electing him.

  206. I may indeed have misunderstood, Pat Johnson, because your post was specifically addressed to me; I naturally wondered “why me” when so many others have expressed the same admiration for RD’s post and because I have been posting here for quite some time now, since the middle of the primaries, as a refugee from TL. Now I only visit here and at NQ.

    But no offense taken. I accept your explanation.

  207. RV–You nailed it so well! I went to the “The Nation” link and couldn’t read past the first sentence:

    “It’s not every day that God [Obama] calls your cell phone.”

    I know all I need to know about Sirota.

  208. Thank you Riverdaughter.

    I especially like this paragraph which is filled with more of the home truth I’ve come to depend on from you :

    “You owe the rest of the country an apology for not sticking up for the integrity of the voting process. You owe us big time for not standing up to sexism and propaganda instead of indulging in it.”

    In my mind there is no difference between Sirota and any member of the mob Tom Delay assembled outside the doors of the room where Fla was trying to conduct a recount in 1999. Sirota just as surely drove a stake into the heart of this democracy.

  209. I liked Sirota when Al Franken had him on Air America, but jeez he’s totally sucked down the koolaid. Sad. So many smart people brought down by irrational CDS and Obama worship. I still watch “President” Obama and take everything he says and does w/a grain of salt, a wait and see. I keep saying “he can’t be as bad as Bush.” But I’m still pissed about HRC not getting her chance, and I’m NOT getting over it or shutting the F**k up. Keep up the good work, RD.

  210. Democrats don’t “get over” 2000. This time Democrats stole from Democrats. Battered women don’t “get over” their abuse.

    They’re enablers just like The New Republic’s hawkish Democrats enabled the Iraq War. Obama/The Iraq War would not have happened without these entitled, young, white, male “liberals”.

  211. Democrats don’t “get over” 2000

    There are some things you don’t “get over”

    You learn to deal with them, but they change you forever.

  212. bless your heart, RD, for doing the digging and exposing sirota for the trash that he is.

  213. But..but..but… “This is all Hillary’s fault!!!” Right?

  214. Have I told you lately how much I love and appreciate this site?

    I don’t post often, everybody always says what I want to say, before I get a chance to!

    Have I told you lately how much I despise Barack Hussein Obama and his ilk?

    I am so sick of everybody with a Kool-Aide stained upper lip and access to a computer making excuses for the Uh… Uh… What I mean to say is… Um… Uh…
    tounge tangled and brain dead empty suit that occupies the oval office!!!

    Thanks RD for telling it like it is!

  215. The truly remarkable thing was how Bill Clinton had had such success against black poverty and violence, and had really helped move blacks en masse into administration and upper management positions, but all of that success was knocked out with a few “racist” claims. And all of the work Hillary had done for family and women’s issues for how long was turned into an albatross by the “womenists” because her feminism was really racism and classism in disguise.

    Really, one step above anything Rove could pull off.

  216. all of that success was knocked out with a few “racist” claims.

    And it wasn’t like the Clintons were caught using the “N-word” or doing something that was clearly racist.

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