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Put down the cup and step away from the Kool-Aid!

Just Say NO! to Kool-aid

Just Say NO! to Kool-aid

Salon editor Joan Walsh:

 Obama is the Democrats’ Great Communicator, our Ronald Reagan. It’s fitting that his highest priority will be reversing the tax and spending priorities Reagan enshrined as a new American compact almost 30 years ago, and reviving the notion of government as an engine of capitalist growth — not merely the safety net provider, but the catalyst for organizing our public resources around what makes the economy strong. We’ve been arguing at the margins during these last two years of pain: Government should regulate more, or less. Tax rates should be higher, or lower. But there’s a dangerous civic illiteracy in our country about what the larger role of government in a modern economy is, or should be, and I don’t think Obama will ultimately prevail if he doesn’t start to take it on.

Obama is the most remarkable Democratic communicator of my lifetime, I think, and even he’s not rising to the task, yet. He needs to lay out his priorities, clearly; he needs to simplify his pitch, yet he also needs to add some depth to his and our understanding of how we got here.

This is the same Ronald Reagan that Obama praised, saying:

I think Ronald Reagan changed the trajectory of America in a way that Richard Nixon did not and in a way that Bill Clinton did not.  He put us on a fundamentally different path because the country was ready for it.  I think they felt like with all the excesses of the 1960s and 1970s and government had grown and grown but there wasn’t much sense of accountability in terms of how it was operating.  I think people, he just tapped into what people were already feeling, which was we want clarity we want optimism, we want a return to that sense of dynamism and entrepreneurship that had been missing.

Ronald Reagan was the slick salesman of bad policy.  He gave great speeches that other people wrote for him.  Reagan hatched the chickens that are now coming home to roost, and Joan Walsh wants Obama to be more like him.

In a moment of lucidity Walsh closes with this:

Here’s how Madrick summed up the Reagan revolution. It’s depressing: “A life of family strain, inequality and insecurity has become accepted as inevitable. It is even thought to be a strength of America. This was Ronald Reagan’s Trojan horse, disguised as optimism.” But now it’s Morning in America, for the rest of us. Obama needs to take his sales pitch to a new level. People want to believe he can make a difference, but time’s a wasting.

Joan Walsh helped sell Obama to the American  people with hagiographic coverage.  What did Obama have to offer besides stirring oratory?  Not much.  What evidence do we have that Obama wants to reverse Reagan’s tax and spending priorities?  Even less.

It’s morning in America alright, so wake up and smell the coffee, Joan.  Thanks to you we’ve all got a big Kool-aid hangover to deal with.

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121 Responses

  1. from the last thread:

    Good greif-Olympia Snowe has expressed strong missgivings about the stimulus package…

    I believe the $ 700 million for viagra for low income males provision is in danger.

    there is talk that the 700 million for viagra is just to hard for Sen Snowe and her counter part from Maine to “swallow”

    Harry Reid has offered to cut the amount to $ 699 million and lower the quallifying income criteria from AGI of $ 2.5 million to $ 500,000!

    It is rumored Senator Snowe is not biting!

  2. myiq2xu, I really don’t understand what Joan Walsh is saying. It sounds like double talk .

    She could use some of her own advice:

    “He needs to lay out his priorities, clearly; he needs to simplify his pitch, yet he also needs to add some depth to his and our understanding of how we got here.”

  3. I am amazed how they talk about these huge sums of money so cavalierly… this is real money; the people’s money

  4. AAAAAAAAAAACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    WTF IS WRONG WITH THESE FRIGGIN PEOPLE?????

    Ronald Reagan = The DEVIL

    SHESUS cripes – I need a drink.

    WTF?????????????

  5. sorry but I could not resist they were talking about Olympia Snowe and her reluctance to jump on the “Stimulus” band wagon….

    They (the MSM) were whining she should be “all for it, I mean she is a RINO (Republican in Name Only) for Pity sakes!

    yeah like the intellegent Ms Snow cant see a piece of shit on the ground before she puts her $600 Manolo in it! she is goona run as far avway from this package as she can!

  6. And didn’t I say it that Reagan is Obama’s Daddy – and they are playing it like it’s a GOOD THING?!?!?!??!?????

  7. SM 10 days till Gasprilla LGBT softball tourney and my trip to your town!

  8. Here’s how Madrick summed up the Reagan revolution. It’s depressing: “A life of family strain, inequality and insecurity has become accepted as inevitable.

    Yes, MFer! Add POVERTY to that list.

  9. FUZZY – I have to email you through another one – my PUMA email was captured by Yahoo, claiming I was conducting “suspicious activity.”

    I CAN’T WAIT!!

  10. Howard Dean was also seen boarding a Jet bound for the continental US from American Samoa….wher ehe has been resting and basking in the glory that is Pampers!

  11. SM, would you like to host with me and fuzzy tonight?

  12. I wanted to beat the GOP, not become them.

  13. SM-

    I guess leading the Rebel Alliance here south of I-10 counts as suspicious activity nowadays?

    One Nation still under survellence?

  14. tell me about it myiq. that is why we have rejected barack.

  15. OT…myiq2xu…your writing keeps getting better. You said quite a lot with ~ 12 lines .

  16. myiq- have you peeked at the Obat-o-sphere lately…they still think all PUMA’s care about is the COLB issue…when willl they realize we have for the most part moved on?

  17. Great quote from Obama’s “Reagan’s trajectory” and other manure-type speeches during the primary. But I do feel that Joan Walsh in her Salon commentaries has not been entirely unfair in her treatment. Often she has been critical of the Annointed One. And she has been consistently respectful and fair in her treatment of Hillary! She is an astute journalist. But, yes, she, too was smitten with Obamyopia! But I think her affliction is almost cured….

  18. interesting article here:

    http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2009/02/bad-bank-assets-proposal-worse-than-you.html

    excerpts:

    Dear God, let’s just kiss the US economy goodbye. It may take a few years before the loyalists and permabulls throw in the towel, but the handwriting is on the wall.

    and………….

    The Obama Administration is as obviously and fully hostage to the interests of the financial services industry as the Bush crowd was. We have no new thinking, …..

    not good, not good at all

  19. It is almost a sick obsesion….I mean the project a stereotype on the PUMA movement and when we dont live up to the stereotyoe they become fixated….

    its like they are living in August 2008-I wont even engage the No To Democracy crowd anymore.

  20. hey kiki! how you been when you heading to Otown again…going to Otown this weekend and will again try to meet your daughter…

    3rd time a charm maybe?

  21. Interesting quote of Obama’s usual horse-manure speech deifying that ventriloquist’s dreamboat, Reagan by saying he was at the “trajectory of history” and other horse-manure isights of His Hopeness…
    But Joan Walsh has been rather fair in her assessment of politicians and was respectful and thoughtful and very supportive of Hillary throughout, and still retains this journalistic integrity intact! It sure sounds as if her Obamyopia is no longer an incurable affliction, tho!..She’s waking up from the Obama lethargy, too! But her Salon is a lot better than the HuffPost and the other “strictly Obamarama rags” !!!
    Joan is a decent journalist and I’m glad she’s in there. Her praise of Hillary during the primary was amazing, even tho she supported Obama later (who didn’t, other than the smart Confuencers and No Quarter and the Pumas….

  22. Fuzzy – we’re all fat too. And female!

    I agree that Joan Walsh is one of the better Obamazoids. But if she expects clarity from Obama, she hasn’t been paying much attention the past two years!

  23. Taggles – I just posted on the other thread – would love to!!!

    Florida style Lions Share!

  24. show is qued-taggles

  25. You guys will like this quote re: separation of church and state from American Thinker:

    A government office on faith? So much for that much-ballyhooed “separation of church and state” thing. There’s no quicker way to eliminate faith in God than by getting government involved in it. Maybe that’s the idea.

  26. Fuzzy taunting Obats:

    I may be fat but you are ugly and I can always diet -but you will still be ugly!

  27. kiki –

    THAT just goes to show that we made the right decision to sticking to our principles and we did not sell out.

    We knew as liberals – as LIFE LONG DEMOCRATS – that Obama was and IS not one of us.

    Never Was and Never Will Be.

    WE TOLD THEM SO.

  28. What is this infatuation with Reagan?

    I remember what Reagan was to my family growing up……”The Friggin Devil!”

    I never knew of anyone that spoke highly of that “Demon!” Then again, Where I come from, a Republican is akin to UFO’s or “Nessie!”

  29. hey folks, Lions Share tonight 8pm Eastern with The View From Under The Bus directly following at 9pm est.

    Listen in & Call in

    http://www.blogtalkradio.com/no-we-wont

    Two of our favorite Conflucians will be hosting with me, Fuzzy and SM77!

  30. Elderj: Pretty soon you will have the Obamanation screaming for one state sponcered religion for the sake of national unity!

  31. Angie you didnt leave your outline on your desk at work did you?

  32. do these people still have headaches after their lobotomy ?
    They seem to have a problem recognizing reality. I do not know the medical term for that problem.
    How long will they keep making excuses for backtrack?
    Backtrack seems to want to be anybody but himself. If he doesn’t like or trust himself why should we?

    WOMEN WITH INTELLIGENCE AND EXPERIENCE,MEN WHO SUPPORT THEM AND COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY ALWAYS

    PUMAS,BUBBAS, EQUALISTS AND THOSE PEOPLE RULE

  33. madamab…make sure angie has her outline…

  34. Obama is the most remarkable Democratic communicator of my lifetime, I think…

    Pass the barf bag, Joan. You must be, what, about 8 years old or so? Not to mention completely oblivious when it comes Hillary’s and Bill’s speaking skills. Anyone who can write this sort of trash with an even halfway straight face doesn’t deserve the descriptor “journalist”. Yes, Walsh never resorted to cutting off Hillary at the knees, she even spent time defending her, but she does far too much simpering over inane Obots to qualify for respect.

    Walsh is the editor in chief at salon.com, which spent TONS of time and cyber ink trashing Hillary and her supporters (evil racists all) during the primary. This past week, after boycotting salon for many months, I ventured back over there only to find it a faltering refuge for the last of the Kewl Aid lushes. With the exception of Glenn Greenwald, that whole site is just too adolescent for words.

  35. Ok where has RD been we inmates have been runnign the asylum all day! LOL

  36. helenk-the term you are looking for is delusional…

  37. they still think all PUMA’s care about is the COLB issue…when willl they realize we have for the most part moved on?

    I never did care. When Cranky Christina gets done proving that Obama is a US citizen she will begin an in-depth series of reports proving that water is wet.

  38. MYIQ:

    Could ya do us a favor & put Sheri’s link in your post????

    PLEASE?

    Or, Taggles – do a reminder post without comments so people can stay here instead?

  39. “Obama is the most remarkable Democratic communicator of my lifetime……..”

    I’m curious as to what he has been communicating to her.

  40. You said quite a lot with ~ 12 lines .

    Stupid is like ugly. You don’t have to explain it, you just have to let people see it.

  41. does anyone remember that old joke about raygun?
    3 kids saw him fall into a river and jumped in and saved his life.
    He told them they could have anything they wanted because they saved his life.
    Boy #1 wanted to go to West Point. raygun said ok you got it.
    Boy#2 wanted a job in government. raygun said ok you got it.
    Boy#3 wanted a grave at Arlington National Cemetery. raygun said ok you got it. He than asked boy #3 why he wanted that.
    The boy said when my mother and father who are out of work are going to kill me when they find out what I did.

    WOMEN WITH INTELLIGENCE AND EXPERIENCE,MEN WHO SUPPORT THEM AND COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY ALWAYS

    PUMAS,BUBBAS, EQUALISTS, AND THOSE PEOPLE RULE

  42. I have never thought him to be a “great” communicator; however, the scariest things to me are I don’t believe he has the depth of policy knowledge; a vision of where he wants to take the country, and he lacks leadership skills.

  43. MYIQ:

    thank you!

  44. I always thought the Big Dawg was a pretty good communicator too.

    But lots of people can give great speeches. They’re called “ACTORS”

  45. ROFLMAO-Helenk

  46. HelenK:

    Check you email – sent yo a reply.

  47. I think Obama’s debate performances are far more revealing than his prepared speeches.

  48. I wonder what chri$tina’s problem is she won you would expect a few threads on the Brilliance that is Pampers….

    I am sure she has a whole box of theose “Head O State” big “O” marital aide toys in both cream and electric blue!

    I am sure she uses them as she composes her threads!

  49. that is if she can get them out of Tommy X-tophers hands

  50. But lots of people can give great speeches. They’re called “ACTORS”

    BTW – Don’t include Keanu Reeves in that group.

  51. If Obama is a great communicator, then why isn’t he saying anything?

    Isn’t having something to say kind of important in communication?

  52. I wonder what chri$tina’s problem is

    That’s a topic for a whole blog.

    (except nobody cares)

  53. myiq2xu, on February 4th, 2009 at 7:42 pm Said:

    You said quite a lot with ~ 12 lines .

    Stupid is like ugly. You don’t have to explain it, you just have to let people see it.
    *************
    “Ronald Reagan was the slick salesman of bad policy. He gave great speeches that other people wrote for him. Reagan hatched the chickens that are now coming home to roost, and Joan Walsh wants Obama to be more like him.”

    That is exactly right…connect the dots of all of the f*cked up problems that we are seening today and they lead back to Obama’s BFF, Ronnie. “Big gubment is bad”…so the f*ckers got rid of regulation and now we have failed banks and lethal peanut butter. 15 years ago, there were 55,000 Ag. inspections, last year 5,000. The govt inspectors have to ask permission to check for bacteria.

  54. Isn’t having something to say kind of important in communication?

    Yeah, his speeches are a lot of empty calories.

    MLK motivated people to fight for civil rights and end discrimination.

    Obama motivated people to vote for Obama.

  55. myiq2xu, on February 4th, 2009 at 8:00 pm Said:

    I wonder what chri$tina’s problem is
    ********
    What is a chri$tina???

  56. What is a chri$tina???

    It’s sort of like a hemmorhoid, only not as much fun.

  57. Sigh– Just Sigh—

    What is that Who — Song — Won’t get Fooled again –

    Seems like they were right —

    And the world looks just the same
    And history ain’t changed
    ‘Cause the banners, they all flown in the last war

    I’ll tip my hat to the new constitution
    Take a bow for the new revolution
    Smile and grin at the change all around me
    Pick up my guitar and play
    Just like yesterday
    No, no!

    I’ll move myself and my family aside
    If we happen to be left half alive
    I’ll get all my papers and smile at the sky
    For I know that the hypnotized never lie

    Do ya?

    YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!

    There’s nothing in the street
    Looks any different to me
    And the slogans are replaced, by-the-bye
    And the parting on the left
    Is now the parting on the right
    And the beards have all grown longer overnight

    I’ll tip my hat to the new constitution
    Take a bow for the new revolution
    Smile and grin at the change all around me
    Pick up my guitar and play
    Just like yesterday
    Then I’ll get on my knees and pray
    We don’t get fooled again
    Don’t get fooled again
    No, no!

    YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!

    Meet the new boss
    Same as the old boss

  58. I seem to remember Carter motivating my parents to turn down their thermostats and conserve paper.

    That was pretty effective communication.

  59. SHV:

    Your last comment will disappear to everyone but you. You will see it but it will be “awaiting moderation”

    The answer will magically appear inside it.

  60. Fuzzy are you kidding? Do they really have 700 million for Viagra, But they cut family planning for poor women? Un-fucking-believable!!!!!!!

  61. me on blogtalk-just do it

  62. madamab:

    Carter is a good man, but he was the wrong guy at the wrong time.

    He wasn’t a crisis President.

  63. I’m on the train on my way home. As soon as I get there, I will tune in to blocktalkradio!

  64. I’ve been calling Obama

    THE TROJAN PONY ever since that Reagan comment of his.

    Jesus, she thinks Obama is a great communicator? no one knows what he
    stands for or believes in!! that’s not communicating that’s hustlin’.

  65. from corrente:

    John Amato:
    “Obama was elected to bring change to the economy, not to debate the merits of tax cuts all over again. We had that discussion for 18 months and Obama won. Tax cuts lost. Why is the media ignoring that fact?
    The problem is, we didn’t have that conversation.

    I surely wish we did, but we simply didn’t.

    We had a completely fictitious conversation about how the problems in DC are a partisan “food fight.””

    more evidence we were in parallel universes during the election. obama said tax cuts, tax cuts, tax cuts…am i the only nut that heard that?

  66. I have no idea what Joan Walsh is trying to say in that first excerpt. Either she’s confused or I’m just slow today.

  67. No, sarah..you are 100% right.
    Obama never won the argument. He never proved that Reaganomics was wrong. All he said was that we were going to change and hope and believe.

    He is, indeed, a blank screen upon which the fauxgressives projected everything they wanted to see. Problem was, they couldn’t see through the pretty face to the emptiness inside.

  68. Obama never won the argument.

    How many times did we “not have the discussion” but the media declared we did and Obama won?

  69. madab – i didn’t see a pretty face. even when i didn’t yet realize that he was a complete phony.
    PHONY PONY.
    but now he extremely unattractive physically to me. all i see is that thing on the side of his nose. it’s his little ugly id. it talks to him when he’s alone.
    yes, i’m very petty.

  70. Three Wickets, that was my response also. Huh?

  71. I think IQ is making his point, without having to make a point.

  72. LOL Sarah!

    Well, handsome is as handsome does.

    HRC won every argument. That’s why when I saw her in the debates I fell in lurv. She knows how to speak American. It’s in her blood and bone. You cannot fake that sincerity. Next to her Obama is as big a fake as his beloved Raygun.

  73. The ID comprises the unorganized part of the personality structure that contains the basic drives.The ID acts as a pleasure principle: if not compelled by reality it seeks immediate enjoyment. It is focused on selfishness and instant self-gratification.
    Yep, that thing is his ID.

  74. thank you, myiq. I stopped reading salon so long ago I can’t remember much about it. joan is a reactionary liberal. what blather and nonsense. How could anyone in their right mind who lived through the 80’s praise Reagan?!??

  75. id, ego and superego?

  76. Justus49 – I guess she’s one of those fabled Reagan Dems we heard so much about in the primaries…funny how the PUMAs were supposed to be the Republicans…

  77. I am not a Repub. Could never be one. But consider myself a “lapsed” Dem. Does that make sense?

  78. PJ – If that means you have no more “faith” that the Dems represent Democratic values anymore…then so am I!

  79. id, ego and superego?

    I had to read it twice before I figgered out it wasn’t “identification”

  80. HRC won every argument.

    Followed by a change of subject to cankles, tears, whiskey shots or some other irrelevancy.

  81. But consider myself a “lapsed” Dem.

    Did you lapse, or did they?

  82. AAACCKKK!!!

    Here I am … LOVING the View From Under the Bus…

    THEN….

    One of my male cousins from the Bronx calls me…for ADVICE.

    I love my cousin – BUT DAMN. The Patriarchy is blocking me listening to the show.

    !!!!!

  83. Stupid patriarchy, SM77!

    I think they infested my computer too. I’ll have to listen to the show tomorrow when I’m STILL home sick.

    (snurfle)

  84. Sorry, but Joan Walsh was not mostly or even nearly fair to Clinton nor critical of Obama. Her columns on Clinton were mostly of the d*mning with faint praise variety. True, she was not nearly as bad as the average fauxgressive bots, but better doesn’t always mean good. And if she can, even now, write this:

    He needs to lay out his priorities, clearly; he needs to simplify his pitch, yet he also needs to add some depth to his and our understanding of how we got here.

    she’s smoking even more crack than before. Obama has been perfectly clear all along; the hopium crowd just refused to see it, in their delirium to believe he was Luke Skywalker, the Lightbringer and the Messiah all at once. He has played the bizzare and mystifying ‘bipartisan postpartisan cr*ppartisan’ schtick all along; every stump speech, every proposed solution to every problem; he’s always put the money people before the regular people; he’s always blown off any concern related to women’s equality; he’s never indicated that he would lift a finger to restore any of the Constitutional protections ravaged by Bush and Co; he’s never had any plans or ideas of his own (aside from copying Hillary’s; for petesake it took him a week and a half to even react to economic meltdown last fall). I could go on, but all this and more has been clear for months and months; we PUMAs have known it forever.

    So if Joan is stuck on the idea that Obama’s problem is lack of clarity, then all I can say is, what the h*ll is she smokin’, ‘cuz I want some too.

  85. Poor madamab. Feel better. XXOO

  86. the patriarchy is under the bus!!!

  87. myiq – Yes, but the public wasn’t buying. Hillary would have gotten 9.5 million of McCain’s voters had she been the Democratic candidate. If she had had from August to November to run, she probably would have peeled off even more.

    Too bad we never entered the equation. We’re just the unwashed masses to the PFKAD. They said they could win without us, and they did.

    Damn them all to hell, those heartless f*cking bastards.

  88. (applauds Valhalla)

    Thanks, PJ!

    I’m in moderation, myiq – lemme out before the tr0lls start chanting Obama’s name and trying to eat my brains!

  89. Our “Great Communicator” was William Jefferson Clinton which is why the Republicans and the Corporate Media that serves them have been stoning him-and his wife- for twenty years.

  90. Lurking….and having huge problems with this discussion on View from under the bus…..

  91. SweetSue – and why it still hasn’t worked.

  92. I do not want to be told what to think or what I can say or whom I can judge or criticize. Sorry about that folks!

  93. BB – why don’t you call in?

  94. Because I’m very tired of this entire topic, madamab. I read all the feminist books 40 years ago. I’ve been through this whole argument again and again in my life. I do not believe in ideological purity and trying to curb other people’s free speech.

  95. I also don’t believe in being so humorless that you can’t laugh at yourself.

  96. bb: I’m with you.

  97. I don’t agree with everything, BB. But I am getting a hoot out of it! Me hunter, you gatherer. 🙂

  98. Thank you, Pat!

  99. BB – well, they disagree with you. That’s their right as well.

  100. I’m listening to it and I have to disagree that a continual calling of women who willingly participate are “victims” is wrong. There is such a thing as true victimhood but those who “play for pay” are not victims. And the media is the learning tool.

  101. Purplefinn,

    It’s not even that I disagree. It’s just that this discussion has been going on for what seems like a month. It’s boring. I’ve moved beyond the feminist ideology in the sense that I see the system as crushing both women and men. The solution isn’t to drive men who have open minds away because they don’t buy the entire radical feminist ideology.

  102. I also don’t believe in being so humorless that you can’t laugh at yourself.

    If my Halloween post with the witch crashing into the tree is “offensive” then WTF are you gonna do with real discrimination?

  103. Who disagrees with me? I don’t get your point. Are you saying there is a reasonable disagreement about people on this blog being allowed to express their true feelings? I don’t understand.

  104. myiq: No argument here.

  105. bb: I think what she meant was that those on the talk show may not agree with your point of view but they are free to express it. Which they did. But from my vantage point, the discussion basically mirrored both our perspectives overall.

  106. Madamab,

    I don’t think you are understanding my point. I’m saying that I think everyone should have a right to express their truthful opinions on this blog. I don’t think we need to have self-censorship of opinions that don’t fit some narrow ideology. I believe in free speech and honest sharing of opinions, that’s all. If the blog decides that is not acceptable, then someone can let me know.

  107. I’m listening to it and I have to disagree that a continual calling of women who willingly participate are “victims” is wrong.

    I draw fire from Violet Socks (who I respect greatly) for saying that we should express disapproval to Ali Campoverde and other women who willingly participate in pornography. Then she follows that with a post flaming Ellie Smeal for supporting Obama.

    Excuse me Violet, but aren’t you “mis-blaming” Smeal for the patriarchy?

  108. I get that, Pat. And I don’t think I particularly disagree with any of the opinions being expressed on the show. I disagree with the notion that we need to censor our opinions.

  109. It’s upstairs

  110. I think this may get to a point where RD needs to make a decision about whether this blog allows more than one view of feminism.

  111. bostonboomer, on February 4th, 2009 at 10:04 pm Said:

    I believe in free speech and honest sharing of opinions, that’s all. If the blog decides that is not acceptable, then someone can let me know.
    **************
    I hope that doesn’t happen…there are damn few blogs where a true discussion can occur.

  112. I remember myiq’ s advice about staying out of family disagreements. You’re a wise man, myiq.

  113. boomer — I hope no one misconstrued anything we said as “censoring”

  114. I remember myiq’ s advice about staying out of family disagreements.

    That advice don’t help much when it’s your family

  115. Since the financial collapse and the election, it’s clear that a whole lot more people (especially those in the media) are smoking, drinking, and pilling heavily. It shows in the coverage. Early in the primary, I dropped Salon, Slate, and most of the cable channels.

  116. madamab, on February 4th, 2009 at 9:39 pm Said:

    Stupid patriarchy, SM77!

    I think they infested my computer too. I’ll have to listen to the show tomorrow when I’m STILL home sick.

    (snurfle)

    LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I was not born nor grew up in the NYC area, but most of my matriarchal family is there. And for some reason, I’m becoming the “go to” person for advice.

    Is this then a MATRIARCHY in action???
    Most of m

  117. myiq, you still here?

  118. Obama is not a great speaker. He is not a great thinker. We have little evidence he is a great doer. He got the nomination because of Identity Politics run amok and the help of the DNC, and won the election because of the last 8 years of George W. Bush. But since few pols or “journalists” can admit any of that, we get the fantasy scenario of a politician of unique skills and ability. (Something similar happened with RWR come to think of it.)

  119. Yup, tdraicer.

  120. Obama is the most remarkable Democratic communicator of my lifetime, I think, and even he’s not rising to the task, yet. He needs to lay out his priorities, clearly; he needs to simplify his pitch, yet he also needs to add some depth to his and our understanding of how we got here.

    Huh? So, he’s the “Great Communicator,” but then she goes on to say that he is not communicating well? And she keeps referring to his “sales pitch.” Yea, Joan, that’s why we think of him as the snake oil salesman around here–all sales pitch and no cattle.

    The O phenomenon is such a strange Study in Delusion.

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