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Conflucians Say, “We told you so”

When all of the stupid Obots were proclaiming Obama’s abortion and reproductive rights bona fides last year, we noted that those issues were conspicuously absent from the vast majority of candidate’s web pages as we searched through ActBlue for candidates to endorse.  There was a reason for that and if you pea brains weren’t so stoked on Kool-Ade, you might have had a “WTF?!” moment.   We put two and two together when Obama didn’t challenge any provisions of the first Paulsen Bailout bill while Hillary was running around to all of the morning shows with her hair on fire over mortgages.

He’s dancing with the ones who brung him, just like we told you he would.  But would you listen?  And what do you have for leverage now?  Hmm?  What are you going to use to get the Blue Dogs and Obama himself to do the right thing?  Thaaaat’s right.  You’re pretty much out of options.  We’re stuck with this Congress for at least two more years but by then, the damage will be done.  And YOU dragged us into this.  When you think about it, what makes you that much different from the creationism-loving, terroism-fearing, Rush Limbaugh worshipping right wing nuts?  Well, from where I’m sitting, not a whole hell of a lot.  Congratulations!  You now bear the responsibility of our downfall along with all of the Republican voting public who gave us 8 years of Bush.

‘gits

Stay tuned for Conflucians Say, tonight at 10PM EST on PURrrr where we will taunt them a say-cawnd time.

252 Responses

  1. I’ll be there! (I’ve got the number in my phone)

  2. I can’t brain today, I haz the dumb.

  3. When Doug Kmiec is Obama’s first nominee for the SCOTUS, the ‘obots will in a rapture at the “O’s” brilliance.

  4. RD: It’s always so hard to try and figure out how you really feel about the One. It is going to be a hard decade. The decade after the crash of 29 revisits.

  5. Will the obots start singing “Crying” when they realize that backtrack looks at them at says “Got along with out you before I met you and gonna get along with out now?”
    Or will he say my personal favorite ” How could you believe me when I said I loved you, when you know I’ve been a liar all my life?”
    Madamab will have such fun with all the music of course it will be very sad and loud.

    WOMEN WITH INTELLIGENCE AND EXPERIENCE, MEN WHO SUPPORT THEM AND COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY ALWAYS

    PUMAS,BUBBAS, AND THOSE PEOPLE RULE

  6. hey myiq…

  7. Hey Fuzzy

  8. And let’s not forget that Wall Street just handed out more than $18 billion in bonuses. We’re paying for these as far as I can tell.

    Oborgs will never call Obama on any of this. They’ve moved on. All they wanted was him in the White House. And now they’ve checked out.

  9. Well, since I’m the only one here I’m going to close-up and go to bed.

  10. myiq: ease up on the grease paint

  11. My cable went out until now due to a rainstorm

    phones have been super busy – lots of callers – can’t get through, but hey I’ll keep trying!

  12. myiq — can you unmoderate me? I have a bunch of links in my post and spammy spanked me.

  13. Ok – I’m in…

  14. ease up on the grease paint

    Huh?

  15. I guess when you’re talking to the same group you can say just about anything.

  16. myiq — I think RD’s comment was in reference to your “I haz the dumb.” comment.

  17. SOD: This is what kills me…

    AFFORDABLE healthcare for the UNEMPLOYED.

    HELLO?????

    Unemployed people can’t afford it!!!!!!!

    COBRA costs 2 months worth of unemployement!

    And for those that were/are contractors/freelancers, no soup for you!

    Sheshus CRIPES on a pogo stick, ya think these MORONS would figure it out.

  18. I’m a freelancer. I haven’t been to the doctor in over 4 years.

  19. I’m a freelancer. I haven’t been to the doctor in over 4 years.

    I’m a freelance mortician – should I send you my card?

  20. it burns!! it burns!!

  21. myiq: For some reason, I don’t think we’re connecting in the humor department.

  22. the only thing that seems to be affordable these days is me … everything else is expensive

  23. DYB, me neither until I got super sick in November-December.

    Thanks to a county clinic, I got the help I needed, not the full remedy (tonsilectomy) but I got my anemia horse pills and hyper-strong antibiotics.

    NOW because of the f__kwad we have in office, that same county clinic will offer less gyn services to women.

  24. Good Evening. I just got back from dinner with Simofish and I love her. We had a great time here in Chicago and it was great to meet a fellow PUMA in the flesh.

  25. hi everybody

  26. RD:

    I told you, I can’t brain today.

  27. SOD,

    BZero wanted the Repubs to vote against it. He got exactly what he wanted — he wants to be seen as the great conciliatore. I saw the whole vignette on a rerun of The West Wing the other day.

  28. That’s terrific afrocity! I’m hoping to see her in San Fran when my family travels there on vacation this summer.

  29. RD: I have a simple request.

    The site that shall not be named linked to us today regarding a response to the Lilly Ledbetter Act.

    Could you please respond by comparing how we got shafted with the Paycheck act, since you’re the blog- owner and all that (plus, your words slice, dice and puree!)

    Because we can’t demand equal pay now, unless we sue the bastards and in this employer’s market we are living, it just made shit worse.

  30. Prolix:

    Conciliatore, my ass!

    He’s Ronald Barack Reagan!

  31. hi elder 🙂

  32. hi elderj!!!

  33. SM,

    Hey now, don’t kill the postman, I was only delivering their box of crap.

  34. nah, obama’s first law, that he signed was bout that …

  35. per Gail Collins NY TIMES:

    This is, technically, his second bill-signing, not the first. But you cannot possibly expect us to make a fuss about legislation fixing the salary of the secretary of the interior

  36. so, obats lie … what else do we continue to learn today?

  37. sm77> If I get super sick – I’m not sure what I’ll do. My mom works in a medical office (billing.) I’m sure she’d go to the main physician there and ask him to see me and give me some free samples. But it’s ludicrous that so many people are in this situation. And things will not change any time soon, if ever.

  38. I need to get some sleep. I plan on REALLY pissing some people off tommorrow so it’s gonna be busy.

  39. LOL!

    I dunno, but what didn’t kill us during Bush’s 8, only made us strong for Ronald Barack Reagan’s term.

    I just want him to get sick and tired of it all and just quit, start his own church and compete with Scientologists over who’s the nuttiest.

  40. roflmao, sm77 … that would be appropriate … he can only run for god from now on, so that works

  41. This site is a gift that keeps on giving. I have not gone out in or had friends in nearly a year because of the rapid Obots in Chicago. It was nice to break bread (or sushi) with someone not drinking kool aid. Chicago is like the land of the living dead.

    Tonight this OBOT idiot in my apartment building literally ran out of the elevator saying “Blago is Gone fa la la la …”

  42. MyIQ, is that fantasy night?

  43. Prolix: LOL! Sorry, I’m a little testy lately.

    DYB: Other options – Go to your county clinic while we still have them, also, CVS started a “Minute Clinic” where nurse practitioners treat for basic ailments – but even that was too pricey for me.

  44. If I get super sick

    If your kidneys are in good shape I can hook you up with a very affordable funeral plan.

    I have an arrangment with Captain Spaulding.

    You didn’t have your heart set on being buried in a cemetary did you?

  45. Blago may have left the Governor’s mansion, but I very much doubt that he’s “gone fa la la la!” Afrocity, you should have reminded the Oborg in the elevator that Blago now probably has even less to lose!

  46. DYB — Oborgs will never call Obama on this is the least of our problems — they are FURIOUSLY re-writing history as it happens. The NYT today (or maybe yesterday) had a story all about Obama’s “more casual” oval office dress code (he goes to the gym at 6:45 a.m. & comes in to work at 9:00 — swoon! — he really is Christmas, Hanukkah & New Years all rolled into one!) and in the story, I kid you not, the NYT actually wrote that he signed an EO “directing the immediate closing of Gitmo.” The fact that that is not, AT ALL, or even by the most merciful & sympathetic reading what that EO directed is not irrelevant. That is what everyone (i.e., the average citizen) will think/believe he did & will fight us to the death to defend. We have always been at war with east asia. (bangs head on wall)

  47. myiq> Actually, my preference is to be cremated and have my ashes scattered out at sea. So all you’ll need is a bonfire and a boat.

  48. It’s like Alanis sez “”it’s like a free ride,,, when you’ve already paid.”

  49. afrocity, I’m so happy for you that you were hanging with simofish. that’s my dream–that we all get to be in the same room!

    and flesh!

    (looking around for elderj….)

  50. MyIQ, is that fantasy night?

    Nope – but now that you mention it . . .

  51. MYIQ:

    LOL!!! I can’t wait – but remember, PLEASE put up a picture of a hot guy too, like they do in HillBuzz whenever they get the “r*cist” word thrown at them…

  52. angie> Is the NYTimes still printing papers? Why won’t someone snap some hidden pictures of Caroline and Arthur and sink that rag!

  53. Hi sissy Katie!

  54. The most interesting thing I heard today was the Chicago reporters saying that Rezko is in solitary confinement. That’s a Grisham novel waiting to be written and if not, then maybe a movie of the week.

  55. my ashes scattered out at sea

    would you settle for a swamp?

  56. There’s a short article on TPM that “sources” at the signing of the Ledbetter bill said that a family planning bill will be coming soon – as early as next week.

    http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/01/source-obama-plans-to-get-family-planning-aid-done.php

    “Sources?” Well, I guess we’ll see.

  57. Hmmm we should have a PUMA conference

  58. I realize that I’m hopelessly out of it since I never watch TV anymore, so eveyone else may have seen this, but this is one so the sickest, creepiest videos I’ve seen yet.

    “I Plege Allegience to Obama.”

  59. SOD:

    OMG, Ironic is the perfect song to encapsulate Obama’s horse-trading.

  60. afrocity: there was a poetry slam before the show I accompanied last saturday, guy used to do poetry in chicago but he’s from here .. Chuck Perkins… very talented poet … anyway, i got to hear at least two poems about THE ONE … it was almost as bad as the painter who paints those nekkid pix of Obama on unicorns … all this rise like Obama nonsense with every one swooning … i nearly passed out and i was sitting near the stage so i had to be stoic … quite difficult

  61. Afrocity,

    It’s great that you and Simo were able to get together.

  62. bb — I saw that yesterday.

  63. Prolix, why would he be in solitary confinement? Hmm……

  64. DYB, on January 29th, 2009 at 11:16 pm Said:

    sm77> If I get super sick – I’m not sure what I’ll do.

    Unfortunately I’ll know just what you will be forced to do — you’ll receive the treatment, make the payments that you can & then be forced to file bankruptcy. Outrageous medical bills is still the #1 reason for filings. One of my clients is a 60 year old hair dresser (self-employed/no insurance) she got breast cancer had to have a double masectomy & ended up with $100k in doctor’s bills (after the discounts the hospital/doctors gave her) while being barely able to drag herself out of bed after chemo treatments, much less work. It is really sad.

  65. bostonboomer – that shit is scary – I couldn’t even get through it…

    WTF kind of propagandist crap is THAT?

  66. I’m here lurking…

    but the NYT article made me sick. That rag deserves to go down in blue flames for its horrible coverage of anything and everything. Who the (insert inappropriate vulgar language here) cares about BO taking off his jacket in the Oval Office, or having meetings that run long, or that he goes to the gym at 6:45 in the morning. So what? So do millions of other people, every day. Is the NYT going to come to my house and write about how I stumble out of bed sometimes around nine, make some coffee, have my daily prayers and then turn on the computer? Does BO’s comments about pens and his casual interaction with aides signal anything other than perhaps a trivialization of the office to which he’s been (s)elected?

  67. hey joaniebone!!!

  68. bb and sod, how do you bear it all? I can’t stand the headlines at the newsstands, much less that stuff. (couldn’t click the link–I’ll take your word for it)

  69. Joanie,

    Good evening me’lady. That’s exactly what I was wondering. I’m sure that Fitzgerald hasn’t waterboarded him yet — either they are afraid of what the other prisoners will do to him or wanting him to go a little tralalala cockoo.

  70. Hiya Dak!

    xxxooo

  71. If anyone ever wants to come to Chicago for a few days, you have a place to crash.

  72. Joanie,

    My response went to visit the Spaminator. I was wondering the same thing.

  73. “Wold you settle for a swamp?”

    myiq> As long as it’s not Chicago.

  74. If I’m ever in Chicago…I’ll definitely look you up.

  75. Afrocity, I have “airfair watchdog” popping up in my inbox regularly with the cheapest flights from Seattle.

    I’m constantly scanning for PUMA cities. Now I just need the time off work.

  76. Prolix, spammy loves charmers

  77. Dakinikat

    LOL. We have so much BAD OBAMA art in Chicago. Murals painted on bridges and just bad velvet art pictures, latch hook rugs, guys selling his face on Etcha Sketch boards.

  78. “I can’t brain today, I haz the dumb.”

    Myiq, that’s how I feel almost EVERY day.

  79. Prolix, on January 29th, 2009 at 11:10 pm Said:

    Exactly — I thought the same thing — the whole “no member of the GOP voted for it” was a total set up — kabuki theater.

  80. angienc2, on January 29th, 2009 at 11:27 pm Said:

    DYB, on January 29th, 2009 at 11:16 pm Said:

    sm77> If I get super sick – I’m not sure what I’ll do.

    Unfortunately I’ll know just what you will be forced to do — you’ll receive the treatment, make the payments that you can & then be forced to file bankruptcy. Outrageous medical bills is still the #1 reason for filings.
    **************
    The mortgage situation may have changed the % but it used to be that ~50% of bankruptcy were med. bill related and 80% of those had some amount of health insurance.

    The insurance companies play the same games with doctors as they do with patients. The more that they can discount the payment and delay payment with repeat requests for documentation the more they help their bottom line.

  81. “to go a little tralalala cockoo”

    Prolix, you are my kind. I adore you.

  82. bb – that video was disturbing… why are they just now suddenly concerned about all those things? oh, I see, they’ve been converted to Obamaism

  83. What happens to the children when there is no work for the parents, and no health care for the whole family?
    More and more businesses are closing, more and more people out of work, less and less with health care.
    I am glad he signed Hillary”s bill for the right to sue for equal pay. But with the job market shrinking it will not have the impact that it once would have.
    People are going have to move to different areas for work.
    Impact on different school districts will be enormous and little money from the states.
    The full impact of this meltdown has not been realized.

    WOMEN WITH INTELLIGENCE AND EXPERIENCE,MEN WHO SUPPORT THEM AND COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY ALWAYS

    PUMAS,BUBBAS, AND THOSE PEOPLE RULE

  84. elderj,

    Why do they believe that Obama supports those things?

  85. ya know, i’ve taught my daughters that they should work hard, study, go to school, and treat people and themselves with love and respect, I don’t want any one telling them to rise like loaves of bread like its some kind of passive experience.

    I come from irish tenement dirt farmers who worked for everything they got and had to fight being called dirty shanty irish and all kinds of things … i don’t want them to forget EVER how you earn respect and give respect …

    rise, rise, rise, like a loaf of bread, F* that …

  86. Angie,

    It was the West Wing episode where Pres. Bartlett got out of his car to greet tourists on the way to the Hill and then walked the rest of the way. With Laurence O’Donnell whispering in BZero’s ear, it is going to be a reenactment of the West Wing.

  87. When are we all getting tested for the critical thinking gene? There must be some explanation for why we see what others don’t.

  88. Joaniebone — I wonder that same thing myself. It’s that alternative universe theory that made me don this tinfoil hat I wear.

  89. bb – just keep staring at the pretty colors…

    hopey changey hopey changey hopey changey hopey changey hopey changey …

    see it now?

    🙂 I didn’t think so — you’re way too smart!

  90. That, and it goes nicely with your tinfoil thong.

  91. joanie: I’m sure hoping there is some greater purpose in it … and i felt that way about the iraq war too… every day i got up and set, why don’t folks see this for what it is?

  92. Afrocity-

    Yes we do.

    Glad you met up with Simofish.I

    It’s still pretty cold in our town. I work near Canal and Randolph and although it’s a short walk to the train – it is currently a very long walk!!

  93. joaniebone: is that the same as the smart ass gene? Oh, I got that from my dad.

  94. bb

    That video was produced by Oprah’s company?

    http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=86695

    I am glad these folks are inspired, even if I don’t relate to how Obama can be inspiring, but in the last seconds of the video they just get scary pledging allegiance to the President!

  95. frenly (yup its me), on January 29th, 2009 at 11:27 pm Said:

    LMAO — I think your mornings would actually be more newsworthy than Obamas!

    That I Pledge Allegiance to Obama video is so annoying — when it got to Piddy D (or whatever the eff he is calling himself these days) with the “turn the lights off” shtick I had to shut it off — Hey, jack-off — lights are cheap energy — turning them off doesn’t *hurt* but leaving them on doesn’t help much either — if you really wants to be “green” stop flying around in your private jet & driving around in limos.

  96. HI Katie!

    Dak, and it goes back way further than that. I do believe I’ve been on the wrong side of pop culture my whole life.

    At times, I’ve tried to explain it by my ethnic roots, and large family culture. I’ve felt against the grain of popular American sentiment my whole life.

  97. I wouldn’t pledge allegience to ANY President.

  98. firelight —

    those actors/celebrities aren’t inspired…they’re deluded.

    Big difference.

  99. Looking for Integrity I am downtown

  100. Our dad (Joanie’s and mine) rants about pledging allegiance to the flag — he’d have us pledging allegiance to the constitution. I’m not going to rant about it but, I can’t say I think he’s wrong…..

    (sigh) I should have just said I agree. (I spit on headaches)

  101. Prolix,

    I told you spammy loves charmers–I tried to tell you I adore you, and spammy gobbbled it up!

  102. Well, it’s been a big garbage week for me.

  103. myiq2xu: i started refusing to do the pledge to the flag at 10 … i’m all about the constitution … every thing else is a bloody bougie distraction … they almost threw me out of jr girl scouts for that and sent me to the principle’s office several times, but shortly thereafter, they quite saying the pledge at my school … quite odd actually, but i was 10 and really didn’t give That much thought

  104. Joanie & Prolix – take a close look at those posts of yours. There’s a reason spammy caught them.

  105. katie: i think your dad and I would get along just fine!!!

    lol

  106. Joanie,

    What a coincidence — my post was the same only that I adored you not myself.

  107. I think you would, dakinikat. I actually think you would.

  108. firelight,

    Yes, I noticed that–Harpo Productions. Ugh!

  109. Katie–I’m stumped because I can’t see it anymore.

    and I love my Daddy!

  110. Prolix — well, I’m glad I never watched West Wing so all of this can be new & exciting for me! LOL
    (unlike most, I always thought Aaron Sorkin’s dialogue high handed & smug — yeah, I said it — and you know what else? A Few Good Men sucked donkey b@lls too — the Jack Nicholson character would have NEVER folded at the questioning of a little pissant like Tom Cruise’s character IRL)

    SHV — did you know I do debtor bankruptcy for a living? But thanks for backing me up. LOL

  111. Dak — the Constitution?

  112. I would never pledge allegiance to a president. That is un-American at its core. We are a democratic Republic founded on principles of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Do these bubble headed celebs have any idea of the kind of idiocy they represent? Where are we? The United States or the 3rd Reich?

  113. OK…it’s almost midnight and I turn into something scarey.

    Off to bed with me.

  114. Prolix, I guess spammy has a cynical reaction to lovebirds..

  115. Joanie, 11:30 & 11:37

  116. angienc2, on January 29th, 2009 at 11:21 pm Said

    Hanukkah & New Years all rolled into one!) and in the story, I kid you not, the NYT actually wrote that he signed an EO “directing the immediate closing of Gitmo.” The fact that that is not, AT ALL, or even by the most merciful & sympathetic reading what that EO directed is not irrelevant.
    *************
    I guess the NYT ignored this bit of news:
    “A military judge threw a wrench yesterday into the Obama administration’s plan to suspend legal proceedings at Guantanamo Bay, denying the government’s request to delay the case of a detainee accused of planning the 2000 attack on the USS Cole. ”
    (snip)
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/01/29/AR2009012902021.html?hpid=topnews

  117. SOD: funny thing, my father was really mad at me until I told him the flag was a piece of cloth, but the constitution was full of very important words

    he told me that he couldn’t argue with that and that he’d see what my principal had to say about that … like i said, my district dropped the morning pledge after that … i have no idea what else transpired

  118. katie…. oh…………

  119. yep, Prolix & joanie — spammy doesn’t like the word c*ck in any part of a word — even peac*ck is forbodden. Doesn’t have a problem with the word c*nt though — spammy is part of the patriarchy.

  120. dak,

    you are a national treasure yourself.

  121. SHV — did you know I do debtor bankruptcy for a living? But thanks for backing me up. LOL
    *************
    I do…Did you know that doctors are required by federal and state laws to bill the patient?

  122. Spammy had no right.

  123. angie–LOL! (with a few tears thrown in)

  124. Angie, it does have a problem with c*nt

  125. nighty SOD! I love you.

  126. Oopsie, I had no idea Spammy didn’t like clocks.

  127. frenly (yup its me), on January 29th, 2009 at 11:59 pm Said:

    I would never pledge allegiance to a president. That is un-American at its core.

    D@mn straight elderj — people have lost what little minds they have/had.

  128. Goodnight my darlings.

  129. I know some people have an issue with the flag pledge but I don’t see any reason to make a stink about it.

    When it comes down to it the flag pledge is a meaningless gesture that makes some people feel better. Opposing it gives the GOP an issue to challenge our patriotism.

    But pledging allegience to the President is different. Presidents are public servants, not monarchs.

    Pledging to Obama reminds me of Nazis saying “Heil Hitler” when they saluted.

  130. Night Joanie.

  131. Kb — it didn’t used to have a problem with c*nt — I remember being able to type it during the Palin t-shirt fiasco. I’m glad wordpress has changed that.

  132. Night joanie!!

  133. I just watched the Pledge video. The ending is really spooky.

    I posed this question before, after seeing interviews with people who were so inspired that they wanted to be nicer, better people. What was stopping them before?

    That was just regular people. These ‘actors’ are, as usual, a joke.

    btw, Quakers do not pledge allegiance to the flag. Allegiance should not be to a symbol or to a country, but to God.

  134. Angie, I think I had to add it myself. It might have been Gary though.

  135. (Waving goodnight to Joanie)

  136. SHV — I’m not blaming the doctors for billing them — I’m blaming the government/this country/people who f*cking voted for Obama all the while screaming that he & Hillary were THE SAME ON THE ISSUES for not making UHC a priority.

  137. I agree with Angie that Aaron Sorkin is smug, condescending, pompous, and tripe. He’s in love with his own writing. I watched exactly one episode of “The West Wing.” It was that one they made after 9/11 and I almost smashed my TV. Condescending trash is what it was. But I always rather liked “A Few Good Men,” in a purely trashy sort of way. And a young Noah Wylie looks cute in his uniform. Also, did you know that Demi Moore had to fight the studio to get her name above the title in the posters and before the title in the movie itself? They wanted her name to come after. But she, and Rob Reiner, raised hell to include her in Tom and Jack’s company. Wasn’t it nice of the studio to agree?

  138. KB — aha! you (or Gary or whoever) had to add the “C” word yourself — see — thank you for standing up to the patriarchy. LOL

  139. Angie, Please try it again. (I think it might be case sensitive)

  140. Unless MyIQ freed your earlier comment?

  141. Danggumit! Y’all made me go back & watch the end of the video (I fast -forwarded) . Spooky is an understatement. I didn’t throw up a little bit in my mouth — I got a little diarrhea in my mouth. BLECH!

  142. SHV — and btw, in a lot of the extreme cases I’ve seen the doctors & hospitals have tried to be as helpful as they could with the patients — reducing fees for services where they could, ridiculously low payment plans, etc.

  143. angienc2, on January 30th, 2009 at 12:10 am Said:

    SHV — I’m not blaming the doctors for billing them — I’m blaming the government/this country/people who f*cking voted for Obama all the while screaming that he & Hillary were THE SAME ON THE ISSUES for not making UHC a priority.
    *************
    I totally agree but it used to be that a doctor could “discount” to insurance. No insurance=free care. That is now illegal. In the current situation the doctor has to send 3 (?) bills but there is no reason to send the patients bill to a collection agency if they can’t pay, IMO.

  144. KB–it went to spam when I wrote it – I wondered why you would have “freed” it — it must have been myiq. Please delete — I don’t like using the word.

  145. Angie, Done! I’m relieved though. I thought I was going to have to add new versions of our banned words.

  146. Angie – I forwarded through it also – was not even going to watch it at first.

  147. DYB — I actually liked A Few Good Men in a “trashy way” too –until the end when Jack Nicholson’s character breaks down on the stand — I don’t mind fantasy in movies but that was just too unbelievable — it ruined the whole movie for me.

  148. Twas me

    I don’t always read the comments of our regulars before freeing them from Spammy’s grip.

  149. Unfortunately, some people believe Obama is God. The celebrity video was spooky. Even spookier is the fact that elementary school children in one Vegas district are pledging allegiance to a large life size picture of Obama or a large portrait. As they say the pledge in the morning they look at that image not the flag. Parents were complaining about it on a blog…

  150. Fran — LOL! Curiosity killed the cat, but satisfaction brought him back.

    In this case though, there was no satisfaction.

  151. angienc2, on January 30th, 2009 at 12:18 am Said:

    SHV — and btw, in a lot of the extreme cases I’ve seen the doctors & hospitals have tried to be as helpful as they could with the patients — reducing fees for services where they could, ridiculously low payment plans, etc.
    *************
    That is what these wing-nuts that piss and moan about socialized medicine don’t understand; the vast majority of Americans, even with insurance, are one or two serious illnesses away from bankruptcy. I had surgery ~7 months ago…the doctor was “in network” but the hospital where he operated wasn’t. (go figure)…I got a real break on the hospital bill@ $37,750..the insurance co paid $1,700.

  152. I would have done it too.

  153. myiq — I figured you freed it because you were blinded by my smile. 🙂

    Oh, and I actually like saying the pledge — it makes me think of all my brave ancestors who built, served & defended this country from the American Revolution forward & most especially my grandfather (may he rest in peace) who fought in WW2. I’m not ashamed to admit it.

  154. Disregard if this has already been discussed, but how about Obama cranking up the thermostat in the Oval Office to 78 after he lectured the rest of us to conserve? Axelrod said well, he’s from Hawaii and that you could grow orchids in there. Hypocrite.

    http://www.hillarysvillage.net/showthread.php?t=6976

  155. Even spookier is the fact that elementary school children in one Vegas district are pledging allegiance to a large life size picture of Obama or a large portrait. As they say the pledge in the morning they look at that image not the flag

    Are you kidding me? Let me step outside for a moment and check because it seems the whole world has gone mad. As an evangelical, I keep an handy supply of tinfoil available in the basement just in case the antichrist shows up. I never really gave much consideration to those who were obsessed about such things, but maybe I need to dig out my tinfoil just in case.

  156. {{{SHV}}},

    “I had surgery ~7 months ago…the doctor was “in network” but the hospital where he operated wasn’t. (go figure)…I got a real break on the hospital bill@ $37,750..the insurance co paid $1,700.”

    SHV. Oh, I can’t stand that. I’m so sorry. (tears)

  157. What drives me nuts is when someone posts the same comment over and over even though Spammy keeps grabbing them and I’m trying to free the first one.

    If your first comment gets grabbed, just post a note and a moderator will get to as soon as possible.

    Sometimes Spammy grabs comments for no discernable reason.

  158. I’ve had a headache tonight, so I couldn’t hang out, but I’m checking in before bed. One thing that caught my eye today that is the height of hypocrisy: Obama is FURIOUS that the same institutions that have funneled money in his direction, and that he has rewarded with huge bail out dollars, have given themselves billions in bonuses!

    His faux outrage is yet another cynical PR ploy while his Treasury Secretary just hired a former Goldman Sachs lobbyist to be his Deputy.

  159. (agreeing) It makes me feel crazy when I release a comment and then find the exact same one under it. And the one I released refers to the other one so I’ve got to delete it and release the other and then (sigh ) there’s another one…….

    Really, usually it just takes a friendly wave. One of us is usually around.

  160. KB:

    I participated in the deposition of a gastroenterologist in a divorce case. We represented his wife.

    The last full year of the marriage he earned $320,000 and during the depo he was bitching about how doctors can’t money anymore becasue of PPO’s.

  161. looking for integrity, on January 30th, 2009 at 12:23 am Said:

    Unfortunately, some people believe Obama is God. The celebrity video was spooky. Even spookier is the fact that elementary school children in one Vegas district are pledging allegiance to a large life size picture of Obama or a large portrait. As they say the pledge in the morning they look at that image not the flag. Parents were complaining about it on a blog…

    I would be raising hell about that — wtf? Do we not teach history in schools anymore? Does NO ONE know this is exactly what they did in the USSR with Stalin, in Germany with Hitler, with every effing dictator in the history of the world?

    My mom actually works with a guy & when she went into the lounge at work once the tv had an Obama speech on (this was during the GE) she said “hi” to him & he shushed her and said as he pointed to the tv “God is talking.” She said “well, your god may be on TV, but my God is up there.” (pointing to the sky). Lorda-mighty, people don’t even know when they are being sacrilegious anymore.

  162. Frenly –

    No I’m not. The dad said his son who was in 1st or 2nd grade told him about it. The mom couldn’t believe it. She volunteered at the school so she went in early and peered into 3 classrooms and all were doing it. They were asking for advice on what to do about it.

  163. MyIQ, this:

    The last full year of the marriage he earned $320,000 and during the depo he was bitching about how doctors can’t money anymore becasue of PPO’s.

    Makes my eyeballs bleed. That’s a sick, sick, man.

  164. I keep an handy supply of tinfoil available in the basement just in case the antichrist shows up.

    Oh, elderj — LOL! I’m glad you said it though, because I’m not an evangelical & I’m starting to believe it.

  165. to those who are lacking money for neccessities,today on the “news” they said OB doesn’t like tobe cold and that he turned the heat up in white house and they say now its hot enough to grow orchids there!! wouldn’t alot of you like to be wrmer than you are now and be able to pa

  166. katiebird, on January 30th, 2009 at 12:27 am Said:

    {{{SHV}}},
    *********
    Not a problem, I could pay for it…It’s just an example of how financial vulnerable people are. I have “good” health insurance, allegedly.
    Another example: Two years ago, I had a retinal detachment in my left eye. I lost 1/2 my vision over 6 hours. The soonest that an OR slot wa available “in network” was the nest day. I said f*ck that, I want surgery tonight. Bill..$17,578..insurance paid $378.00. The people who don’t want “Gubment” health care are living under a rock.

  167. President Barack Obama lashed out on Thursday at “shameful” Wall Street executives for claiming billions of dollars in bonuses while their stricken institutions asked taxpayers for support.

    Mr Obama described the bonuses as the “height of irresponsibility”, and made clear that additional government support for the industry would be subject to tough conditions on pay and other perks.

    Bankers reacted to the president’s remarks with a mixture of anger and resignation.

    “Attacking Wall Street is like fishing out of a barrel at the moment,” said one financial executive. “Obama is in the middle of a tough political battle to get the stimulus plan approved. He has to say these things.”

    http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/97872994-ee3c-11dd-b791-0000779fd2ac.html

    WASHINGTON (AP) – President Barack Obama issued a withering critique Thursday of Wall Street corporate behavior, calling it “the height of irresponsibility” for employees to be paid more than $18 billion in bonuses last year while their crumbling financial sector received a bailout from taxpayers. “It is shameful,” Obama said from the Oval Office. “And part of what we’re going to need is for the folks on Wall Street who are asking for help to show some restraint, and show some discipline, and show some sense of responsibility.”

    The president’s comments, made with new Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner at his side, came in swift response to a report that employees of the New York financial world garnered an estimated $18.4 billion in bonuses last year. The figure, from the New York state comptroller, drew prominent news coverage.

    Yet Obama’s stand also came just one day after he surrounded himself with well-paid chief executives at the White House. He had pulled in those business leaders and hailed them for being on the “front lines in seeing the enormous problems in our economy right now.”
    http://apnews.myway.com/article/20090129/D9613MMG0.html

  168. apachegrl, I’m sure you’re wrong. Just yesterday he was mocking his kid’s school for shutting down for snow. Those guys from Chicago are tough. And (he said) they’d be teaching something about that to the schools.

    Right?

  169. man my typing sucks tonight.

  170. Nite everyone.

  171. {{{SHV}}} I can empathize. That is so terrible. That is why I love my job — I LOVE being able to stick it to the insurance companies & the credit card companies. They are pure evil (and make no mistake — they are the ones who brought us Bush AND Obama).

    myiq — I also hate the attitudes doctors have about how valuable their time is (for things like depositions or showing up to court) AND how they always whine about the malpractice caps being “too high” Boo f*cking woo — I don’t have a cap for any malpractice I could be sued for, why the hell should they have a cap? IF I actually ever did commit malpractice no one is DYING from my scr@w up.

  172. sorry I slipped…meant to say to be able to pay for it! and by the way aren’t
    alot of you afraid Blagoyavich might get hurt beacause he might say too much?

  173. Night fif!! I didn’t even really get a chance to “talk” to you — catch ya next time.

  174. Goodnight, fif!

  175. katiebird

    no not wrong just more of his double speak

  176. It’s bedtime for me too. It’s been fun!

    xxoo

  177. angie:

    This guy closed his medical practice and went on disability because he didn’t want to pay her 1/2 the community property value of it.

    He planned ahead, he bought a private disability policy that paid him $12,000 a month.

    His disability was based on his doctor buddy’s diagnosis that he was “depressed”

  178. (going to bed before I slash my throat)

  179. When I was a young child, I thought that the words in the Pledge of Allegiance were – and to the republic for Richard Stands….. I kept wondering who Richard Stands was, and why we had not learned about him if he was important enough to be mentioned in the pledge.

    re: BO’s heat. That, among many things, galls me. I recently got my Dad in the habit of putting a small blanket around his legs when he is sitting, watching TV, etc. He can afford the heat, but I told him – why heat up the whole house when this works just as well? (My Dad is 88. I told him to pretend he was on a cruise or at a football game, etc.)

  180. angienc2, on January 30th, 2009 at 12:38 am Said:

    {{{SHV}}} I can empathize. That is so terrible.
    **********
    I like the hugs…but not necessary…I got all of my vision back and it’s perfect. If I had waited, probably not.

  181. Night KB!

  182. So the Wall Street execs just waived Barky off after he criticized them for giving away over $18 billion in bonuses? Haha, well, what does anyone expect? They paid for him, they’ve got him by his peanuts.

  183. Myiq — the partner I work for is a ch. 7 trustee & we had a d!ckhead doctor who tried to pull something similar to get out of paying his soon-to-be ex anything — he basically took no salary for the 6 months before he filed bk (which is the standard for bk’s under the means test –which is too long, boring & stupid to explain here) but meanwhile he was funneling tens of thousands into his 401(k) (which is exempt from creditors and the trustee under bk). Hot damn that was fun objecting to his discharge on the basis of fraud & making him turnover all that $$ to the trustee. Wifey got paid, we got our trustee commission & he got caught! It was a good day.

  184. DYB — LOL — exactly — they know what is “just rhetoric” when they hear it!

  185. I quit doing divorce and custody stuff – you meet a better class of people doing criminal law.

  186. Fran, on January 30th, 2009 at 12:44 am Said:

    When I was a young child, I thought that the words in the Pledge of Allegiance were – and to the republic for Richard Stands….. I kept wondering who Richard Stands was, and why we had not learned about him if he was important enough to be mentioned in the pledge.

    LOL! I think we all have stories like that from when we were kids! Personally, I always wondered why God was named “Hollow.” (I thought the Lord’s prayer began “Our Father, who’s art is in Heaven, Hollow be thy name.” )

  187. myiq — criminal law is busy like bk I hear — makes sense. Pawn shops are hopping too.

  188. SHV –still here? what is it that you do, anyway, if you don’t mind me asking.

  189. angienc2, on January 30th, 2009 at 12:58 am Said:

    SHV –still here? what is it that you do, anyway, if you don’t mind me asking.
    *************
    Now??? Retired…My previous life, Adult and Pediatric C-T surgeon…Mostly kiddie heart surgery.

  190. Damn!

    Felt like I just went to church with that sermon. Preach it, RD, PREACH!!!!!

  191. I pegged you for a doctor with all your knowledge about medicine. That is why I asked, btw. Thanks.

    BTW — retired? you look too young to be retired!

  192. I am waiting for SHV’s answer……. getting sleepy now. btw, My thought also.

  193. angienc2, on January 30th, 2009 at 1:05 am Said:

    I pegged you for a doctor with all your knowledge about medicine. That is why I asked, btw. Thanks.

    BTW — retired? you look too young to be retired!
    ***********
    65 in two months…Medicare….yea. I have put more miles on the odometer since that was taken about 1.5 years ago.

  194. “OB doesn’t like tobe cold and that he turned the heat up in white house and they say now its hot enough to grow orchids there”

    You know, i am not down with this $100,000 to redecorate thing. And not just because I don’t like BO, in general. It seems like such a freakin’ unecessary expense. All of these people are such babies, like you can’t live in the White House for 4 years without “sprucing it up”? Grow the hell up! You spend all that money, teh next person just rips it all out and starst over. Call up the National Gallery, take some furniture out of storage and forget about it.

  195. seriously – yes, I agree….

  196. SHV — well you look maahvalous dahling!

    Seriously — I agree — total waste of money –but so was the coronation & $700 million in a year when my cat could have won with a “D” behind his name.

  197. About health care, here in MA it’s state mandated now, which basically means that you have to pay a lot of money you can’t necessarily afford. There’s a $1000 fine for non compliance, and I’m guessing that a hell of a lot of people just pay the fine, it’s cheaper than paying $600 a month.

  198. Seriously – I agree. I don’t see why the public areas need to be redecorated over and over. In the private area I could see making minor changes.

    I cannot believe the heat being up. That is so callous. And….. that after he told us to inflate our tires to make a difference!

  199. That is so callous. And….. that after he told us to inflate our tires to make a difference!
    ***********
    The funny thing is, of all of Obama’s sh*t during the primary, the tire pressure and “tune up” is probably true.

  200. Predictably, the sippy-kup kidz are praising Obamboozle’s pander to the Republicans as a shrewd political move.

    Whatever they put in the Kool-aid must be some powerful shit.

  201. Fran — he also told us that we “can’t expect to have our thermostats set at 78 degrees in the winter & at 68 in the summer and the rest of the world to be ok with that.” When he said that during the primary (before we even knew he was exempting himself from those “standards” he wished to impose on the rest of us) I thought he was an a$$ — now, he has merely confirmed his a$$holiness. Unfortunately, I predict he will keep confirming this.

  202. It would be a nice gesture at this point when the economy is tanking to just say, “This house is actually pretty nice as it is” and then donate the money to charity. But that won’t get a big feature on Extra.

  203. SHV:

    During the 1979 gas shortage I remember some humor columnist going over the list of things they were telling us to do to save fuel.

    Do this – save 10%, do that and save 15%

    At the end he totaled it up and it came to 115%

    The guy said “I guess I’ll have to stop by the gas station twice a week so they can siphon off the extra.”

  204. SHV — sure that tire pressure thing is “true” but it is like turning the lights off — doesn’t *hurt* but doesn’t help THAT much — it is putting a band aid on a bullet wound — if you want to be “green” stop driving SUVs, stop living 50 miles from your place of business, start taking public transportation — trust me, a small little compact with less than perfect tire pressure is leaving a much “better” carbon foot print.

  205. SHV – I guess my point is that it is important for us to carefully conserve, but not necessary for him to do it.
    Plus, he sets an example.
    Oh, I think I just got it. The car care was probably the one useful thing he said during the primary.

  206. Who sets their thermostat at 78???? He should have told us to tighten our belts and switch from a private chef to a once a week caterer.

  207. angie – well, f@#& him. I need a new furnace and I don’t even have air conditioning.

  208. Seriously, on January 30th, 2009 at 1:26 am Said:

    It would be a nice gesture at this point when the economy is tanking to just say, “This house is actually pretty nice as it is” and then donate the money to charity. But that won’t get a big feature on Extra.

    I can honestly said that if he had done a “small” inauguration instead of that orgy of hubris because of the economy I would have respected him a lot. But, of course, he is NOT a “real” leader, so he never would have thought to do that — of course, if he had any honor he would be our alleged President because he wouldn’t have colluded in stealing the primary like he did. So, it is pointless to think about.

  209. Fran, it’s exactly like those people in Pacific Heights sneering at the rest of the country. They think they’re virtuous just for existing and being so enlightened, while the teeming masses. They may lead lives of wreched excess, but they’re not producing garbage, all the garbage comes from sweaty overweight religious people who eat at McDonald’s. Look, there’s a teeny compost heap behind the Hummer, that plus voting for Obama fulfills all obligations to be a responsible citizen.

  210. Fran — well you know what too? F*ck what the “rest of the world is ok with.” I hate to channel my dad (and I’m not saying that we all shouldn’t do what we can to conserve) but when the REST OF THE WORLD and/or Obama starts paying my bills, then they can tell me what to keep my thermostat at.

  211. angie – I resent this guy or his wife telling me in any way about how I should live.

  212. I agree to all of the above. But when I researched it, (it sounded so stupid) that data came from the Bush DOT. The point was that the max out-put from opening more off shore drilling was less than proper tire inflation.

    The other thing that I learned, and the reason the oil companies want more off shore leases, is that the oil company stock price is more dependent on undeveloped reserves and not pumping the wells. That is why Palin got in the sh*t with the oil companies when she told them to develop their leases or loose them. The oil companies are “sitting on an estimated 89 billion barrels of undeveloped “off shore” oil. The areas that they want to get has maybe 18 billion barrels. The “drill baby drill” to lower oil prices is just another corporate screw job for the American public, IMO.

  213. Fran — exactly — first, it is the opposite of the American way. second, they are total “do what I say, not as I do” hypocrites.

  214. Seriously – yes. One of my points all along about the OBots – even the nice ones – is that they think it is so easy to be virtuous – all they had to do was pull a lever, or push a button, etc.

  215. Where is Pacific Heights?

  216. when the REST OF THE WORLD and/or Obama starts paying my bills, then they can tell me what to keep my thermostat at.

    Absolutely… when that happens they can tell what to drive and eat and everything else, but I’m 3×7 plus some and I can take care of my own business

  217. I am working on my resolution to try and be more action oriented. I did a little action a few minutes ago and wrote an email to the Washington State Democrats:

    Dear Sir or Madam:

    Could you please let me know when the Washington State Democrats will be forming the Task Force to Review the 2008 Caucus Process pursuant to Resolution 97 from the State Convention in Spokane on June 14, 2008?

    I look forward to hearing about opportunities for public input and sincere attempts to commit to democratic processes. I am sure you must be anxious, as I am, to fulfill the party platform’s statement, “We are committed to a representative democracy that encourages maximum participation, a voting process that is legitimate, fair, transparent, and open to all citizens, and a principle that requires the responsibility of voters and those whom they elect.”, (page 7, lines 11-12 of the Washington State Democratic Party Platform, passed by Convention on June 14, 2008).

    Best Regards,

    **********
    *****, WA
    _________________________________________

    Here’s the resolution passed at the state convention…

    Click to access 080614%20-%20SCRES%20-%20A%20-%20097%20-%2001%20-%20PASS%20-%20Caucus%20Resolution.pdf

    They are supposed to hold hearings and report back within one year…or by June 2009?

  218. Have any of you guys been here long enough to remeber Kid Oakland’s apoplectic fit about the gas tax? LOL

  219. San Francisco, of course.

  220. Fran — Pacific Heights is that super-pricey neighborhood where Obama said those “bitter clingy” comments (to big laughs) when they thought us hicks weren’t listening.

  221. Super-pricey neighborhood in San Francisco.

  222. elderj — I don’t get the “I’m 3×7 plus some ” reference. Can you please explain? Thanks in advance.

  223. Fran, it’s laughable. They don’t want to actually get involved in anything because that requires grunt work, so it’s like, pull the leevr and be part of a movement. They’re the apotheosis of armchair activists.

  224. I thought it was quite ironic that they played Simple Gifts at the inauguration.

  225. Oh. OK. There are so many Heights around. And I don’t live in any of them. ha. ha.
    I appreciate the detail of knowing that is where he made the bitter comments (I just thought SF) because I am in PA. He said them right before the primary. Boy, did that ever stick in my mind!

  226. angie – I think it means he is over 21.

  227. 3×7= 21

    My parents used to say that when I was a kid; I dunno why I thought of it now

  228. hi conflucians! If barack does get family planning funding next week, we can take full credit.

    We are the only ones who pointed out the One’s hypocrisy. His sexism, he willingness to throw women under the bus one more time for his post partisan schtick. LOSER!

  229. PUMA’s rule, suck that bots!

  230. elderj & Fran — thanks — I’ve never heard that before — very cute.

    taggles — you are right! And we are going to have to keep on him like white on rice.

  231. in any event I’m a grown man and nobody is going to tell me how high or low to turn the thermostat in my own house.

  232. exactly elderj.

    Ok, I’m going to bed — good night elderj! Night taggles, Fran, Seriously, SHV, firelight & whoever else is here. XOXO

    bon soir mon amour!

  233. bon soir ma chere

  234. Things will go poorly for you if you do not pledge allegience to the giant picture of the Messiah….

  235. Anybody on the west coast
    channel 2 news advertising a story about a boycott of a restaurant because of an obama room.

    WOMEN WITH INTELLIGENCE AND EXPERIENCE,MEN WHO SUPPORT THEM AND COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY ALWAYS

    PUMAS,BUBBAS, AND THOSE PEOPLE RULE

  236. g’night angie!

  237. I have to go also. Good night to all.

  238. And it’s just another example of how hypocritical these people are, if school kids were pledging allegience o Bush there’d be a Congressional invesigation. The exact same behavior does not become innocuous just because you all have a man crush on Alfred E.

  239. taggles, on January 30th, 2009 at 1:52 am Said:

    hi conflucians! If barack does get family planning funding next week, we can take full credit.

    We are the only ones who pointed out the One’s hypocrisy. His sexism, he willingness to throw women under the bus one more time for his post partisan schtick. LOSER!
    *************
    As I have said before, I think the Bush exec. order instituting the “Conscience Rule” is a much bigger deal and nothing is heard from Obama to reverse it. I suspect that Obama will punt like he did with stem cell research. Even though those rules are implemented by exec. order, he wants Congress to take the heat for any change.

  240. Hasn’t he already vaguely suggested he likes the conscience clause? I thought he said something about it.

  241. true SHV, it’s not just congress, he wants to use his post partisan schtick with womens issues. Why ?? cause he is courting religiosos for his 2012 run.

    Infuriating on so many levels.

  242. Laurie at 11.13 is NOT me!!!

    It’s a troll posing -see no avatar 😦

  243. Tr0ll calling itself Laurie @ 11.13!!!

  244. I see in the news Obama brought his personal chef to the White HOuse that he had in Chicago, one thing for sure Im sure he and Michelle ever said on the campaigne trail was….”jee whiz, we miss the food
    our personal chef makes when we are home”

    what a joke….what a freaking joke

  245. Morning All!!
    I’m off to work this AM; but before I went I called a # posted to reach your own Senator’s & Congressperson’s offices.
    You get a “LIVE” switch board operator that will connect you.
    NYS offices of Schumer & Gillibrand were/are full. I told the operator @ 877-762-8762 if anyone asks:
    “I’m against all the pork in theStimulis (Stimulate NOTHING didn’t say that / wish I did) Plan!!!!
    And I want “NO $ to ACORN”!!!
    I told my congressman’s recording:
    “Tell your friends in the Senate, back in Oct. everyone made fun of John McCain for wanting to stop campaigning & focus on getting the bailout “RIGHT THE 1st TIME”!
    Now those same people are saying about the problems with it, “Oops we did not know”. Well we the public knew, John McCain knew. Do what needs to be done with MY tax $ to stimulate growth, bring back the 1970’s tax credits for “green-type” home improvements, help small business’s etc…. NO ACORN….$5 billion ARE THEY KIDDING ME!!!!!!!!!!
    This I did say!!!

  246. firelight2012, on January 30th, 2009 at 1:43 am Said:

    Good work! It’s encouraging to hear that there is so much concern in WA about improving/abolishing the caucus system.

    “WHEREAS more people submitted resolutions and suggestions about abolishing the precinct
    13 caucuses than on any other topic;”

  247. tpt/ny, good morning. You’re on fire! Well done.

  248. Laurie,

    Thanks for the heads up. I took care of troll.

  249. “I quit doing divorce and custody stuff – you meet a better class of people doing criminal law.”

    ROFL, which is not easy on a jammed-up Friday morning. Thanks.

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