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Caroline Kennedy SUPRISED AND DISMAYED at own voting record??

This has got to be  one of the funniest and saddest things I have read:

“I was really surprised and dismayed by my voting record,” she told the Associated Press. “I’m glad it’s been brought to my attention

How could she not know?
Read more here
Who was the unlucky soul who brought it to her attention?
Who could say this with a straight face other than an Obama protege?
Why not, Obama’s pretending he knew nothing worked well.
This just might be a tad over the top though.
Ya think?

127 Responses

  1. What? Did she designate someone to vote for her and they neglected to do it?

  2. How couldn’t she not know her own voting record? She must have been joking.

  3. ” I am surprised and dismayed to discover that people figured out I do not give a damn about the law since I am above it and the crappy economy doesn’t effect me, so what the hell I didn’t bother voting>”

  4. If you never say anything, have a totally selective memory…well, that just makes it very easy for everybody to project onto you whatever they want to project.

    I’m back in one of those moods where the sheer number of kool-aid drinkers is driving me crazy. I just got a propaganda “holiday” message from somebody who claims to be a friend but refused to pay any attention to anything about what I had to say Obama this year. The so called annual holiday missive was all about Obama, and his election ending “our long national nightmare” – this from people who a) voted for him simply because of the color of his skin and b) their son has written a fawning bio of Nancy Pelosi.

    I could bear reading this junk from them but not the fact that they would be mightily offended by an equivalent holiday greeting from me.

    Eesh!

  5. “That is not the voting record I once knew”

  6. teresainpa, on December 27th, 2008 at 4:26 pm Said:

    Thank you for giving me a chuckle! I’m going to need a boatload of those today.

  7. Taggles – every time I look at the title of your post I laugh. Honesty, the Onion cannot make up material like this.

  8. DJ, on December 27th, 2008 at 4:28 pm Said:

    Another chuckle, thank goodness.

  9. I am still LMAO!!

    who could possibly say this with a straight face?

    This is worse than the excuse for hitting the wrong button in the IL Senate.

    Next she will say it was boneheaded.

  10. Re: that 30% solution.
    “One Woman’s First Opens the Door for Many”
    http://blog.hillarysvillage.net

  11. Heidi Li, on December 27th, 2008 at 4:30 pm

    I felt the same about the title for your article “It is hard for an empty suit to take a stand – “. The whole day yesterday I was thinking of the song “It’s hard out here for a pimp.”

  12. This is why Paterson must consider meeting with Harriet Christian.

    Harriet has voted in 95% of elections and primaries.

    http://www.harrietchristian.net

    now this is to really bring attention to the farce of the possible Caroline Kennedy appt.

    Why not consider Harriet, Gov. Paterson??

    Go and leave your endorsement.

  13. Obama did say he hit the wrong button 5 times. Only God knows how that happened. Caroline and Obama have a lot in common but I don’t think Obama will help her if God forbid uncle Teddy were to leave this earth next year. Obama will have no reason to help her. He threw JJJr. under the bus

  14. This is the part that particularly cracked me up:
    “I’m glad it’s been brought to my attention”
    Like she is disattached from her own existence, but, yes, that is one of the adjectives used to describe her, isn’t it? Disattached.

    Heidi- your comment reminded me of one year when my mom had it up to her eyeballs with friends writing another one of those Christmas letters bragging about how many of their kids received full scholarships to Harvard this year, etc. That year, my dad became disabled and had one surgery after another and our financial status was up to question. My mom wrote her friend a satirical Christmas letter about all of our tragedies, true but couched in humor. Her friend still didn’t get the irony. This year, I recived a bunch of those letters- they drive me nuts, but at least none included the big “O”.

  15. Someday, someone will write an allegory to this
    Obama suck-fest we’re being forced to deal with.
    I think it will be very close to that old film, “the Blob.”

  16. that’s axelrod’s standard answer.

    when in trouble distance and make stupid. even from yourself

  17. I missed one primary election years ago – there were no major ballot propositions or competitive races.

    I still feel guilty and ashamed.

  18. BTW – For all you snow bound types back east and up north, it’s a sunny and crisp 49 degrees right now here in Central Big Smoggy.

    I’m confident it will hit at least 50 before it starts to cool down.

  19. this is like saying,

    I’m suprised to find out I was married

    or

    I’m suprised and dismayed to find out I never got a drivers license

    or

    I’m suprised and dismayed to find out I own that piece of property

  20. I know, I just updated my post with this – my translation:

    “not the voting record I used to know”

    But we got happy endings – now that it has been brought to her attention, she’ll work twice as hard at showing up to vote!

  21. Downticket: I remember that quote: “let the record show I intended to vote yes”

  22. i thought he did it like 100 times though, no?

  23. I don’t know about Jesse Ventura, but Reagan and Schwarzenegger were both politically active before they ran for office.

    By “active” I mean more than “has a pulse”

    Angelina Jolie is far more politcally active than CK

  24. taggles:

    He voted by mistake about 5 times, he voted “present” about 160 times.

    The only time he took a stand on a controversial vote in his life was the FISA revision.

  25. this will be her next quote:

    “I’m suprised and dismayed to learn, after my assistant informed me, that I asked to be US Senator for New York”

  26. Heidi said, “I could bear reading this junk from them but not the fact that they would be mightily offended by an equivalent holiday greeting from me.
    Eesh!”

    exacto-MUNDO! that is so true and so galling.

    luckily I dont have any obama-supporting friends so I’m all set !

  27. “I thought it was a vending machine. I don’t like peanuts or cheap cookies.”

  28. We are used to seeing “dismayed” so often, it’s lost its effect. Here’s the definition:

    dismayed adj : struck with fear, dread, or consternation

    In keeping, the quote should read, “Oh crap, what the hell was I thinking? Doggoneit, I dread the thought that if I was thinking, I would think what the hell am I thinking? Hmmm, It is completely unexpected that I wouldn’t have thought about thinking what the hell was I thinking?”

    For CK, thinking is bad. Second only to talking about not thinking.

  29. lililam, on December 27th, 2008 at 4:49 pm Said:

    That comparison is just so apt (although I’m sorry your family was going through tough times).

    Really, it is tempting to write an answering, satirical holiday letter of my own – but I just resolved, publicly, not to get bogged down by relatively minor distractions.

  30. On the earlier Oahu power outage thread, people were wondering why HRC returned CK’s campaign contribution. Since CK is still the topic, I will repost what I said below:

    perries, on December 27th, 2008 at 5:30 pm Said:
    Well, this is pure speculation and I came by it while reading on Hot Air, which is a conservative site. I think it was about a week ago they speculated on that site, that Ted’s plan is to get CK into the Senate and then to hand CK the UHC legislation to pass, to make her name on.

    It sounded horribly plausible to me.

  31. And the pearls roll off her tongue faster than I can write: she thinks that people can vote on the answers she should give in interviews – seeing that we cannot vote for or against her
    http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2008/12/27/caroline-people-can-vote-for-my-answers-not-for-me/

  32. Caroline’s next announcement:
    “I’ve got kids?! Wow! Gee, thanks for telling me! How awesome!

  33. edge: just left this comment for you at your blog:
    Thanks for keeping track of this nonsense, edge. If it weren’t for the fact that we are discussing a U.S. Senate appointment we wouldn’t have to keep track but there you go.

    When will Caroline withdraw her name from consideration? Can we vote on THAT?

  34. I said earlier if the voters of NY want to elect CK then I’m all for it.

    If they want to elect her, they deserve what they get!

    (She could hardly be worse than Al D’Amato, right?)

  35. How couldn”t caroline kennedy not know that she was not voting ? This is so not believeable. Houston Texas.

  36. Ok, time out for public thanks to my spouse who has been working all through the holiday to get the 51 Percent site in gear, saving us thousands of dollars. If you have .51 cents and feel you can spare it for what we cannot do ourselves please consider a donation. I mean it – if everybody gives .51 cents or 5.10 or any amount in between we can pay the accountant and for website hosting services and other thing we can’t do ourselves. You can donate, if you are so inclined at http://tdg.typepad.com/heidi_lis_potpourri/51-percent.html

    I don’t feel right putting up a post here about 51 Percent but you will be THE first to know in a comment when the organization’s website goes live.

  37. Caroline’s remarks just makes me think of Richard “I am not a crook” Nixon and Barack “My internal investigation of my staff and myself clears me of any impropriety” Obama.

  38. Heidi:

    I’m waiting for the “it was the drugs” defense.

  39. If Swanspirit is here, I saw the scamalot pics and saved them. I will rotate them with the one that is up there now. They are great!

  40. myiq: a riddle for you:
    Has Caro not already given that defense, tacitly? Isn’t she high on privilege?

  41. is it scamelot

    or

    scamalot

    i like scamalot better.

  42. taggles, I think I prefer your spelling. I also thought you wrote something wise over on Murphy’s boards – the post about being tired of people being offended. Thanks for saying what you did.

  43. HAHAHAHA. This is hilarious. I walk away from the computer for a few hours and Caroline Kennedy puts her foot in her mouth again. I knew about her voting record but I can’t believe THIS is her response. She didn’t know about her voting record the same way Obama didn’t know about Wright’s sermons. These people have NO SHAME.

  44. I cannot understand how anyone can be “surprised and dismayed at their own voting record.

    Dismayed? Yes. I can understand that although I find it sad that someone whose father was a President of the United States didn’t bother to vote. Just seems odd somehow.

    But surprised? How can you be surprised that you didn’t vote? Did she keep it a secret from herself?

    Where are all the liberal women who spent so much time talking about how criminally stupid Sarah Palin was? Because that line by CK is just plain stupid IMHO. Or isn’t intellect important if your name is Kennedy. Even if it’s Kennedy Schlossberg.

  45. Heidi and myiq: when I first read that AP story on CK’s own “dismayment” (?) I kinda fell off the chair. (I had had several Bailey’s and I’ll admit that may have contributed to the falling!)

    That statement really ought to be the kiss of death to her chances of being anointed to the Senate.That was just dumb.

  46. I suppose that this is not the voting record that she thought it was.

  47. Oh, if only dumb were considered by more people as a reason not to vote for somebody. While we would disagree some on who is dumb, we’d agree on a wide swath of people who should not hold elected office.

    But I’m not sure dumb explains what Caroline said. I think she’s another empty suit. And what happens to an empty suit when you press him or her? It goes very flat very fast.

  48. “But we got happy endings – now that it has been brought to her attention, she’ll work twice as hard at showing up to vote!”

    edgeoforever:

    Maybe with Acorn’s help, she can just vote a bunch of times in the next election to catch up – then we can just call it even!

  49. What I really miss: the opportunity to feel good about a candidate,not because I agree with everything she or he puts forth but because I agree with enough (and they are actually putting forth ideas and policies). For me, during the primary season, that was what made me not only vote for Senator Clinton but also expend a tremendous amount of time and energy working for her nomination and opposing the rigging of the results by the DNC. I don’t want to sit around and kvetch (complain/whine) about who is on offer – I want to have options that I can affirmatively embrace – not adore, not become a cult follower of, but who I can actually vote for or support their appointment to a political post because they are deserving.

    I’m not cut out to be a cynic.

  50. But I’m not sure dumb explains what Caroline said.

    Well I was really trying to be nice. It was stoopid to say what she did. What does it say about her? Clueless? At the least.

  51. This is just funny. I’m still horrible offended by Obama’s claim to have always been a “fierce supporter” of gay rights. That’s like a poke in the eye.

  52. This would be extremely funny if it weren’t true.
    I have never missed an election, including local and I too am going to be 51 in 2009. I am a practicing attorney who has WORKED for a living since she was 16 years old, and who supports a husband, two children, and a dog. I lived in NY for most of my life, both in NYC and outside. Other then the fact that I now live in NJ, dumped the democratic party back in May and don’t have the $$$ to run for Senator in 2010, I truly feel more qualified than Caroline Kennedy to be Paterson’s pick. Hell at least I voted for democrats for the last 32 years, know what it’s like to work for a living, know how people other than those living on the East Side of Manhattan live, and didn’t ask for my $2300 campaign contribution back from Hillary Clinton.

  53. I’m confused. Is Caroline Kennedy still married to Schlossberg?

  54. I believe she is, according to articles I have read but I seem to recall (and my recall is not as good as it used to be) that years ago I read or heard that they were separated.

  55. The real irony is she will be appointed in spite of herself.

  56. I thought she was still married. If not it doesn’t change much because no matter what her “married” name is she will always be the Kennedy Princess.

  57. Hey myiq2xu,

    I hate to disappoint you, but it is 44 right now in the Boston area. It has been warm for three days now and it will be 57 tomorrow.

  58. taggles,

    We are spelling it Scamelot so that it resembles Camelot. I’m open to changing it though.

  59. my vote would be for scamalot.

    still get the connotation and you get two words out of it.

    scam alot.

    pretty true ones too.

  60. I’ve missed elections before, particularly when I was stationed overseas. That said I am not asking for a position that would require me to go above and beyond voting and I would not attempt to pretend that I was unaware that I missed election cycles.

  61. Barbie goes to Washington?

  62. Well, Mr. Mike, you are pushing it there.

    She is not qualified, and we don’t have to use sexist stereotypes to make the point.

    Please rethink that.

  63. or is it three words

    scam a lot

    ha, can never remember if alot is alot or a lot.

  64. ainnj, on December 27th, 2008 at 7:23 pm Said:

    And this is why you should have Pelosi’s job, let alone being a mere Senator from NYC!

  65. taggles,

    That is how I originally had it, and then a lot of people wanted it this way. I’ll change it back sometime tonight, but I don’t have time to redo the countdown clock.

  66. well, that’s just my lil ole opinion. go with what you think is best.

    but i do like scamalot better!

    🙂

  67. Heidi Li, on December 27th, 2008 at 7:56 pm Said:

    And this is why you should have Pelosi’s job, let alone being a mere Senator from NYC!

    *********************************************

    Good point, I need to keep my eye on the prize!

  68. taggles, on December 27th, 2008 at 7:55 pm Said:

    ha, can never remember if alot is alot or a lot.

    ************************************************

    Many people use (or misuse) “alot” a lot of times but it is not a word, although it may become one if used a lot more.

  69. i use it as one word alot. then sometimes switch cause i remember i think it’s two words, but it doesn’t look right.

  70. LOL LOL LOL LOL

    She learns quickly. Notice how Obama was shocked and dismayed by REZKO.

    LOL LOL

  71. I’ve been suprised (unhappily) and dismayed since last January.

  72. Heidi, why don’t you write back to your obot friends and tell them you’re surprised and dismayed by their recent voting record?

  73. tell them that they aren’t the friends you thought you once knew, in a very dramatic tone.

  74. Exactly who was the despicable person keeping this a secret from her? Scamelot is in full effect!!!!

  75. I think it’s mean that none of the staff told her she wasn’t voting.

    I hope they weren’t setting up fake voting booths to fool her.

  76. I wonder if she was going into a cabana by the pool and thinking it was a voting booth. that would be an easy mistake to make.

  77. kiki, on December 27th, 2008 at 9:11 pm Said:

    I wonder if she was going into a cabana by the pool and thinking it was a voting booth. that would be an easy mistake to make.

    Wow! You women are vicious!!

  78. I too have been surprised and dismayed beyond belief this past year–possibly more than in my whole life (and I am perilously close to being half a century old). And for the record, I missed one election in my whole voting life due to a stupid snafu when I moved. But at least I knew it –there was no missing it. I went to vote and the nice elderly woman checked her list several times and said, “Sorry Miss, but I can’t find your name.” And I was appropriately depressed for an entire year. Funny, I never missed an election while I was in the service!

  79. NEWS FLASH: OMG, the worm is starting to turn. If Supreme Obamabot Frank Rich of the NY Times is starting to make the link between Obama and Bush, there’s no turning back!! It’s about time they woke up.

    Barack Obama has little in common with George W. Bush, thank God, his obsessive workouts and message control notwithstanding. At a time when very few Americans feel very good about very much, Obama is generating huge hopes even before he takes office. So much so that his name and face, affixed to any product, may be the last commodity left in the marketplace that can still move Americans to shop.

    I share these high hopes. But for the first time a faint tinge of Bush crept into my Obama reveries this month.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/28/opinion/28rich.html

  80. So much so that his name and face, affixed to any product, may be the last commodity left in the marketplace that can still move Americans to shop.

    Notice, though, how Rich doesn’t make the connection between Obama as a Product, and the Axelrod marketing campaign…he attributes it to “hope.”

  81. Wow! You women are vicious!!

    Fredster, I’m sorry you said that because as I hit ‘submit’ I worried that my comment was a little over the top. I’m not a believer in putting other women down.

  82. Absolutely OT but:

    Why isn’t there as loud DEMAND from Obama supporters to denounce and reject The Rickster (Warren) as there was with Rev Wright?

    Could it be because one of them is… (no, don’t say it)
    Could Obots actually be the real… (no? Not possible?)

    Hmmmmm…

  83. mablue,

    i am totally lost……

    but intrigued..

  84. From the Frank Rich article:

    [Harvey] Milk reminds us that hope has to mean action, not just words.

    By the historical standards of presidential hubris, Obama’s disingenuous defense of his tone-deaf invitation to Warren is nonetheless a relatively tiny infraction. It’s no Bay of Pigs. But it does add an asterisk to the joyous inaugural of our first black president. It’s bizarre that Obama, of all people, would allow himself to be on the wrong side of this history.

    Since he’s not about to rescind the invitation, what happens next? For perspective, I asked Timothy McCarthy, a historian who teaches at Harvard’s Kennedy School of Government and an unabashed Obama enthusiast who served on his campaign’s National Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and Transgender Leadership Council. He responded via e-mail on Christmas Eve.

    After noting that Warren’s role at the inauguration is, in the end, symbolic, McCarthy concluded that “it’s now time to move from symbol to substance.” This means Warren should “recant his previous statements about gays and lesbians, and start acting like a Christian.”

    McCarthy added that it’s also time “for President-elect Obama to start acting on the promises he made to the LGBT community during his campaign so that he doesn’t go down in history as another Bill Clinton, a sweet-talking swindler who would throw us under the bus for the sake of political expediency.” And “for LGBT folks to choose their battles wisely, to judge Obama on the content of his policy-making, not on the character of his ministers.”

    Hope has to mean action, not words? Judge Obama on the content of his policy-making, not on the character of his ministers?

    Where the hell have these people been? We all saw the evidence of this months ago, and still, they justify his insulting ACTIONS. Now, it’s “judge him on his policy-making.” How about judge him on prominent endorsement of bigots and misogynists? Pathetic.

  85. mablue, no kidding. some people seem to be going out of their way to make the Rick Warren thing ok.

    I agree with you

  86. Obama would be lucky to go down in history as another Bill Clinton. Fat chance.

  87. yeah, I was surprised by the dig at WJC – seemed a tad gratuitous

  88. kiki: not if you know Frank Rich. I used to like his anti-Bush columns–and then the primaries started. He has one of the worst cases of CDS on record. He simply cannot talk about the Clintons without that recognizable toxic tone. He’s right up there with Dowd, Herbert & Sullivan.

  89. And Rich can’t be bothered to notice that Warren’s women-hating views are yet another reason why the Obama hopium is a scam.

  90. wow, I really don’t know Frank Rich. so I guess it wasn’t as random as it seemed.

    it is strange, all the people I liked because they recognized the problems with Bush back when a lot of the country was pretending he was great……and then so many of them turned out to have CDS as well, or maybe they just loved Obama so much it brought on the CDS symptoms. it will be interesting to see how this all plays out now that they got Obama the gig he wanted.

  91. You know, I’m really surprised and dismayed by my lengthy rap sheet. I’m glad it’s been brought to my attention, along with my three divorces and the fact that I drove over the dog last year.

    This woman cannot possibly be handed a Senate seat. Can she?

    As for the spelling of Scamelot, I feel a bit proprietary about the correct spelling, as it was Mr. Kat5 who came up with this gem. It’s meant to be a play on Princess CK’s familial myth as advanced by her mother (never did get the big deal about the rather avaricious Jackie O).

  92. I am tired of the digs at the Clintons. It’s pathetic. It’s like:
    We hate the Clintons even though Hillary was the better choice for Democrats and the country as a whole. But we slammed them both so that this other guy would win. The other guy will probably suck, so the only way we get to keep looking good is to keep showing you how much better than the Clintons he would have been.

  93. MABlue, I’ve said that all along. Obots are the worst r-words. Obama’s victory is their get out of jail free card. Redemption you can’t-really-in-your-right-mind believe in.

  94. DJ, I’m starting to wonder if Obama will be lucky to go down in history as another Dubya. It is not looking good and it hasn’t even begun.

  95. gxm17
    They both had someone pulling the strings to get them in the WH ..probably the same people. (now I’ll take off my tin foil hat)

  96. Sophie, on December 27th, 2008 at 10:45 pm Said:

    I couldn’t agree with you more.

  97. It was McCarthy who made that particular gratuitous dig at Clinton-not that Rich hasn’t made plenty.

    MABlue, of course the Obots are racists.

    Someone noted recently that Obama’s won the contest to be interviewed by a US Attorney on a corruption issue earliest in his “presidency”. /snark

  98. Well, well, the big Orange is not at all happy with Caroline and his followers are not happy that he’s attacked her:

    “Nothing Caroline ever says or does (81+ / 0-)
    is going to please kos. His mind is closed. It’s not enough that he doesn’t want her (a perfectly defensible stand). He feels that he has to completely destroy her credibility.

    It’s exactly what they do on the other side of the political divide.”

  99. Intelligent women and men have been really dissed this year in politics. It is almost like the political parties have nothing but contempt for the American people.
    The concept “of the people, by the people and for the people” has been lost this year.
    My first presidential vote was for JFK. His daughter has turned out to be a great dissapointment.
    Due to ck I have changed my tag.

    WOMEN WITH INTELLIGENCE AND EXPERIENCE , MEN WHO SUPPORT THEM AND COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY ALWAYS

    PUMAS,BUBBAS AND THOSE PEOPLE RULE

  100. Poor kos.

    And using the tactics of the “other side of the political divide”?
    LOL. These ‘bots are just too bizarre.

  101. Check out the latest CDS edition of Newsweak. NewHampster at Partizane has a post about it
    http://www.partizane.com/node/540

  102. As a New Yorker, I don’t want Ms. Kennedy as my Senator. She’s not qualified nor has she earned being considered for Senator Clinton’s seat. Senator Clinton not only worked hard to win the respect and consideration of her constituency, she continued to work hard for us in New York after she won. I have no illusions that Ms. Kennedy will do the same before or after should our good Gov appoint her to Senator Clinton’s seat. Ms. Kennedy has no understanding of meritocracies only privilege and the perversion of Noblesse Oblige. If she had any understanding of that well honored if time worn phrase and what it entails perhaps I would consider her but I have no illusions that she does given all that I’ve read about her history.

    Lady Caroline, you are not wanted by the New York populace. Go away and write some more inane books and practice your particular brand of dilettantism on your own time and among the precious faction of your class. You are no Eleanor Roosevelt!

    On a more visceral and personal level, I would be remiss and not telling it like it is for me, if I didn’t say that her lusting after Senator Clinton’s soon to be vacant seat makes me sick to my stomach. This is the woman who in an a recent interview had the fucking nerve to say that Senator Clinton was her inspiration after trying to fuck her over for months and doing it twice switching her support to The Precious in October 2007. Yeah, I don’t forget or forgive easily and for her to try to steak a claim for Senator Clinton’s hard won and earned seat after what she did to try to undermine her (although she failed to undermine her) will not be soon forgot by me.

    Anyone but Ms. Kennedy. Although I am supporting Carolyn Maloney to be appointed to Senator Clinton’s seat, I will not object should Andrew Cuomo be appointed. At the least, at least these people earned the right to be seriously considered unlike Ms. Kennedy. Meritocracy rules.

  103. The bots need to ask Michelle Obama about destroying reputations. She accused the Clintons of racism.

  104. The frustrating thing with my obot friends is they do not follow this shit as closely as I do and therefore are mostly unaware of Barry’s lies etc. They have barely heard of FISA and they don’t know who Rick Warren is. So saying to them ” yeah but Rick Warren? Come on! ….” does not break the spell of thier reverse rac*isam…in that to them, a black guy HAS to be liberal cause ….well he’s black. …. So no thinking required. No, he doesn’t! He’s an individual for Christs sake! Try getting that idea though….very difficult .

  105. paper doll, that is the frustrating thing. it’s ok to love Obama simply for the color of his skin, but if you question the content of his character, that’s r@cist. it’s like MLK all topsy-turvy, and I honestly do wonder what he would think. I know he would be thrilled about a black president (I always thought that would thrill me too) but I wonder what he would think about this particular one. if I could get one of those wishes where you could meet a historical character I would choose MLK – he was a man I deeply respected and I would love to get his take on this whole situation.

  106. kiki, The more one knows about MLK , the more amazing he becomes. His speeches are fantastic …. and not just the famous one either. His letter from the Birmingham jail : a knock out . However When I think of MLK and Barry, I see MLK crying. IMO, Barry invited Rick Warren to say the prayer at his installing , because Jerry Falwell wasn’t available .

  107. kiki, on December 27th, 2008 at 9:40 pm Said:

    Wow! You women are vicious!!

    Fredster, I’m sorry you said that because as I hit ’submit’ I worried that my comment was a little over the top. I’m not a believer in putting other women down.

    kiki, I was only kidding. I agree with just about everything that’s been said about CK. She (Caroline) hasn’t done anything to merit being appointed to that seat. Since she’s never really been involved before in politics (like forgetting to vote?) I have a feeling most of this started with Uncle Teddy. I blame him for almost forcing Hillary to take the S.O.S. job because he would not allow her to have a voice in any health care plans in the Senate.

  108. I also wonder how much Princess Caroline excellent Senate adventure is Bloomberg’s idea?

    And while I certainly don’t wish for Ted’s passing, I thought he was dying ? How can a dying person have this much influence? When it was announced, many didn’t think he would make it to the convention. Well good for Ted , but was that a lie too?

  109. yeah, but I do keep thinking about thre famous speech, and the part about judging not by the color of one’s skin but by the content of one’s character….that was something I took to heart years ago and have held dear ever since. it was not only fair but it made sense and seemed like the absolute right thing to do. and maybe Obama could stand up to that test but nobody wants to apply it, nobody wants to know. it’s very sad. I want to celebrate a black president – it is a cool thing! – but this particular guy gives me the creeps, and it has to do with what I perceive as the content of his character. maybe I’m wrong, let’s hope so.

  110. Fredster, I know you were kidding! I felt like I was a little harsh 🙂

  111. And while I certainly don’t wish for Ted’s passing, I thought he was dying ? How can a dying person have this much influence? When it was announced, many didn’t think he would make it to the convention. Well good for Ted , but was that a lie too?

    He probably did the “death-bed” request. “You’re a Kennedy Caroline! We need you in politics now. When I’m gone we have to have a Kennedy in the Senate.”

    But the idea is so stupid! She’s never been involved in a legislative body and now wants to sit in the ‘World’s greatest deliberative body” ? It would take her 2 years to learn the ins and outs of the Senate.

  112. wow. I just read an article about how the CIA is handing out viagra to Afghan warlords, in return for information. that would tell me women are getting raped, or being forced to submit (i.e. raped) but hey, it’s all for a good cause and if America’s doing it, it has to be moral and just, right?

    the CIA is handing out viagra. think about it.

  113. paper doll

    And the obot’s I know are likely to think *you* are r@cist for even asking questions about B0!

  114. Fredster, on December 28th, 2008 at 2:22 am

    I really don’t see Princess doing much of anything and perhaps that’s the point. …. not much of anything but turning the seat over to the GOP in a walk in 2010 when she can’t bestir herself to campaign. She can’t even deal with a fawning press for more than two minutes. All these quotes today are from a hastily put together puff piece. Those of our corporate masters who are suggesting this are pissing on the Senate and we are expected to say it’s lemonade. It’s not

  115. Well kiki, do you want a warloard who can’t get an erection? He’d just be in a bad mood and want to go warloarding against the wrong people! 😆

  116. paper doll, you said a mouthful!

  117. firelight2012, on December 28th, 2008 at 2:28 am
    The two obot friends I have, have known me , one for 40 years and the other for 20 years , so even in thier deep obotness, they know better than to suggest that. Hence thier confusion when I insist on treating Barry as ( gasp) an individual! They refuse to actully think about what he does. He’s black and that’s enough. The non thinking part is a big attraction about Barry .

  118. I personally don’t give a shit if a warlord can get an erection or not. I’m not happy that I pay taxes to buy him an erection. and I’m less happy because I know that has to impact the women around him in a terribly negative way.

  119. […] Princess Caroline of Schlossberg Shocked By Her OWN Voting Record As first mocked over at The Confluence, Princess Caroline of Schlossberg told the Associated Press that her recently uncovered lack of […]

  120. kiki, on December 28th, 2008 at 2:28 am Said:

    A lot of Viagra is used in America, I presume, for consensual sex, so wouldn’t one expect it to be that way somewhere else? Unfortuantely, I am guessing there would be more rape in regions led by warlords…

    I thought fredster was harsh when he said “you women are vicious”. I thought you were just being a little snarky. Sometimes, it seems, people accuse women of being mean/vicious to shame them. The message is that women are more cruel than men. I say this even though I do think people should be called on it for being too mean!

    I actually am not so opposed to CK being in the Senate…I agree with myiq2xu that if she wants it she should run in 2010. Presently, she does not have the qulaifications of many others and if appointed it seems it would be because of her name and wealth. I don’t agree with many others who have criticized her for not having political experience, since one of the great things about America is that any ctizen could become a politician.

  121. Princess Caroline of Schlossberg….Funny!
    Now I know her full title

    People have suggested that if Princess Caroline of Schlossberg was a Prince, that is, was male, she would not be having this hard time. That I don’t know, but I have to say Caroline has the charisma of a frozen head of lettuce….and that can’t be helping her .

    During Barry’s run, Caroline was sold to us as one who usually stays above the fray, but was too moved by Du Barry to stay there and so was selflessly shilling for him. Now we find out she wanted a super sized sugar plum all long…just WHAT is she supposed to be bring to the table?? DNA ain’t enough. Someone’s gotta stop this embarrassment, unless CK’s role is precisely to make Barry look good??

  122. new thread up in case anybody wants a change of pace

  123. firelight2012: I was kidding and kiki knew that.

  124. paper doll, on December 28th, 2008 at 2:39 am Said:

    “….He’s black and that’s enough….”

    I’m trying to understand why this is so powerful…to the point that they don’t think critically…is it the same for AA and non-AA obots? I’m sure it’s not the same for everyone… Maybe understanding this better will help figure out how to break through the delusions many of them seem to be under. Alternatively, what is the argument that, in fact, it is enough that he is black (bi-racial)? Seriously, the argument needs to be made that the (unknown?) benefits of having an AA President are out-weighed by B0’s negatives.

  125. firelight2012, on December 28th, 2008 at 3:10 am .

    My white obot friends just don’t want to think about it. They file him under, ” Jackie Roberson ” and that’s that. One of them has three master decrees! They are use to thinking! But there is some emotional benifit for them that is achieved by NOT thinking about Barry, the person. Got me.

  126. So, if it’s mostly an emotional connection, why is that so strong? Do the white obots identify with…slaves and the history of slavery such that they essentially feel the same way as obot AAs? Maybe that’s not such a bad thing, but I would say that displacing the intellect to the degree that many obots have is a bad thing.

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