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The President-elect has not yet been exonerated

According to Peter Flaherty, President of an ethics group, the National Legal and Policy Center, Obama cannot distance himself from Blagojevich. The following is the full text of Flaherty’s statement [emphasis added].

“The Blagojevich arrest is a problem for Barack Obama for two reasons. First, Blagojevich’s bagman Tony Rezko was Obama’s political sponsor.

“Second, Blagojevich’s intercepted comments speak volumes about the way political business is conducted in Illinois. Blagojevich certainly expected Obama to be a willing participant in the dealings over Obama’s Senate seat. Of course, Obama is pleading ignorance, but he is either part of the political culture that produced Blagojevich or he is not. I doubt Rezko had one set of ethical standards when Obama was in the room, and another when he was with Blagojevich.

“The 76-page FBI affidavit alleging Blagojevich sought to silence critics at the Chicago Tribune and sell Barack Obama’s Senate seat is shocking but not surprising. Corruption is endemic in Chicago and in Illinois state government. We may soon see two Illinois Governors in prison at the same time — one Democrat and one Republican.

“I believe that the US Attorney acted now not only for the reasons he specified in his press conference, but also in the expectation that Obama might fire all U.S. Attorneys when he is inaugurated, like Bill Clinton did. Obama would be poorly advised to replace U.S. Attorneys who are conducting ongoing political corruption investigations.

“The cautionary tale here is that more government intervention in the economy guarantees increased corruption. Obama’s plan to saturate state and local governments with stimulus funds will empower corrupt politicians and union bosses. Transactional politicians of the Blagojevich ilk will be the big beneficiaries. As we have documented in our newsletter Union Corruption Update, corrupt politicians and corrupt union bosses have a symbiotic relationship.”

The words “president-elect” appear nine times in the U.S. Attorney’s press release. In the criminal complaint, the words appear 45 times! That is stunning and highly unusual, in my opinion. Many of the references to Barack Obama are innocuous, but others are very suggestive. For example, from the press release:

Over the next couple of days – Election Day and the day after – Blagojevich was captured discussing with Deputy Governor A whether he could obtain a cabinet position, such as Secretary of Health and Human Services or the Department of Energy or various ambassadorships. In a conversation with Harris on November 4, Blagojevich analogized his situation to that of a sports agent shopping a potential free agent to the highest bidder. The day after the election, Harris allegedly suggested to Blagojevich that the President-elect could make him the head of a private foundation.

Later on November 5, Blagojevich said to Advisor A, Ive got this thing and its [expletive] golden, and, uh, uh, Im just not giving it up for [expletive] nothing. Im not gonna do it. And, and I can always use it. I can parachute me there, the affidavit states.

Two days later, in a three-way call with Harris and Advisor B, a consultant in Washington, Blagojevich and the others allegedly discussed the prospect of a three-way deal for the Senate appointment involving an organization called Change to Win, which is affiliated with various unions including the Service Employees International Union (SEIU).

It certainly sounds like Blagojevich thought that President-elect Obama owed him some favors. I’m not suggesting that Obama was stupid enough to talk to Blagojevich on the telephone, but, according to this TV news report (h/t The Real Barack Obama), he did have a private meeting with the Governor on November 5 to discuss his replacement.

CHICAGO, ILL. — Now that Barack Obama will be moving to the White House, his seat in the U.S. Senate representing Illinois will have to be filled.

That’s one of Obama’s first priorities today.

He’s meeting with Governor Rod Blagojevich this afternoon in Chicago to discuss it.

Obama also saw and shook hands with Blagojevich at the governor’s conference in Philadelphia last week. See the photo here (h/t commenter soupcity–thank you!).

But Obama told the Chicago Tribune in an interview yesterday that he had never talked about his replacement with Blagojevich.

Q: Have you ever spoken to [Illinois] Gov. [Rod R.] Blagojevich (photo left) about the Senate seat?

O: I have not discussed the Senate seat with the governor at any time. My strong belief is that it needed to be filled by somebody who is going to represent the people of Illinois and fight for them. And beyond that, I was focused on the transition.

Q: And that was before and after the election?

O: Yes.

Hmmm… What about that meeting on November 5, Barack?

More from the interview:

Q: Are you aware of any conversations between Blagojevich or [chief of staff] John Harris and any of your top aides, including Rahm [Emanuel]?

O: Let me stop you there because . . . it’s an ongoing….

…investigation. I think it would be inappropriate for me to, you know, remark on the situation beyond the facts that I know. And that’s the fact that I didn’t discuss this issue with the governor at all.

Was that a no? I don’t think so. In fact, it sounds a lot like Bush during the Plame inquiry.

And despite what the media keeps trying to tell us, Patrick Fitzgerald has not “exonerated” Barack Obama yet. Here is what he said:

“I’m not going to speak for what the President elect was aware of,” he said. “We make no allegations that he’s aware of anything and that’s as simply as I can put it.”

Later when asked if Obama had been briefed on this case, Fitzgerald again answered, “I’m not going to down anything that’s not on the complaint… I have enough trouble speaking for myself, I’m never going to go try to speak in the voice of a President or a President-elect so I simply pointed out that if you look at the complaint there’s no allegation that the President-elect, there’s no reference in the complaint to any conversations involving the President-elect or indicating that the President –elect was aware of it and that’s all I can say.”

Were any phone calls to the President-elect or any members of the Obama transition team intercepted?

“You can read the complaint. I’m not going to sit here with a 76 page complaint and parse though it – that’s all we’re alleging. And I’m not going to start saying ‘did anyone ever talk to anyone?’ You can read what we allege in the complaint. It’s pretty detailed. Look in the 76 pages. And if you don’t see it, it’s not there.”

I’m sorry, but that is not a clear exoneration of the President elect. That is a non-denial denial. Unfortunately, this is probably going to be a repeat of Whitewater–but this time with real crime and corruption.

UPDATE: Someone already scrubbed the story on the Nov. 5 meeting that Obama had with Blagojevich. But I found a screen grab of it here. Gateway Pundit also has a lot more on the events of November 5, 2008. It’s quite interesting.

The site has been scrubbed, but the story lives on.

The site has been scrubbed, but the story lives on.

227 Responses

  1. BB:

    I would say you plagiarized me but I hadn’t posted yet.

    GMTA

  2. Obama is going to wriggle out of this just like he slithers out of any questionable situation. And his mindless faithful will swallow whatever BS he feeds them. What’s the saying, “fool me once…”? Well, the obamatrons have been fooled so many times I’ve lost count.

    Make room under the bus for Governor Blagger folks! And put your wallet in a safe place.

  3. big bad breaking news on cnn

    Obama calls for Blago’s resignation.
    What a great president elect-see how righteous he is?

  4. Blago YOU PIG

  5. Yep, catarina. President Elect Righteous to the rescue. All better now. Problem solved. Move along folks.

  6. Obama you EVEN BIGGER PIG!

  7. I’m taking bets, all proceeds to Heidi Li’s press release fund.

    Who thinks Blago “commits suicide?”

  8. Make room under the bus for Blago!! He can have the seat next to Wright & Ayers

  9. gxm17, unfortunately I think you’re right. I hope not though. This man needs to be caught one of these days. It’s amazing how much he’s been able to “slither” out of with his followers swallowing any lame excuse he gives to them. They think this is all part of his “acting” until he gets into office to create the real change he’s promised them. Or he’s the “innocent victim” who is once again being blackmailed by bad people. Too bad everyone he knows is a bad person who helped him in Chicago politics.

    One of these days his crimes and bad karma will catch up to him and I hope someone brings a tape recorder or secret camera to make sure they have the evidence this time to put him away.

  10. I recommend that people readthis post, which shows how problematic Obama’s denial is likely to be for him. It provides a detailed timeline.

    As the post finishes with saying, it’s not the crime, it’s the coverup.

  11. Sorry, myiq. I didn’t see that you had anything in progress. I’ve been working on this for awhile. Can you still post something related?

  12. gxm17, on December 10th, 2008 at 1:13 pm Said:
    Obama is going to wriggle out of this just like he slithers out of any questionable situation.
    *******************************************

    Yes, but at least a few more of his charming friends, like JJ, Jr. and Emil Jones look like they will be going down for the count.

  13. Reading this post makes my stomach turn and makes me happy that I voted for McPalin. It was in some ways, a protest vote at first, but ethically those two are clean as whistles and have the marks of genuine reformers. That people could plausibly believe that BO swam in the muck and mire of this kind of corruption and not take part is mind boggling and logic defying. His campaign financing is suspect, the voter registration and subsequent voter fraud is obvious, the elitist arrogance and disdain is on record, the race baiting and misogyny is disgusting.

    How in the __________ (insert words I can’t say because I’m trying to be a good evangelical Christian) can people continually stomach this ________ and retain any semblance of integrity?

    Where is angienc? I need you to fill in the blanks for me.

  14. BB:

    Mine deals more with the media and kool-aid bloggers, but you covered a lot of stuff I was going to cover.

    You saved me a lot of work, Now I can just refer to this post.

  15. elderJ:

    When you are referring to politicians, “clean” is a relative term.

  16. Blago obviously thought Obama owed him something. He didn’t just assume that he would get a seat like HHS, he knew Obama played and I think Blago knew it was time for Obama to pay.

  17. elderj

    Thank you.

    Your comment has helped me put together a statement I will repeat over and over to my Obot family members during the holiday season.

    wdyt?

    “How could you possibly have voted for that elitist, race baiting, misogynist fraud?!”
    *snorts, turns on heel, raises head, walks off*

  18. myiq2xu – point taken… they were comparatively clean, although I think Palin was much cleaner than McCain. She doesn’t strike me as someone who could be easily bought or sold

  19. That’s good myiq2xu. I’ve been obsessed with this story for months. I couldn’t resist posting something on it, especially after soupcity found that photo for me.

  20. What’s the saying, “fool me once…”?

    “Fool me once, shame on… shame on you.

    “Fool me– you can’t get fooled again.”

  21. Of course bo knew , he has been deeply involved with the gov prior to his campaign ,
    I have no doubt he knew , and what ever deal he was willing to make was not good enough for the gov blago , the tip of the iceberg has appeared, and the botanic thinks he can get around it without any damage. It is just getting interesting 🙂

  22. I have to go out for a couple of hours, but I’ll see you guys later. I know this probably won’t bring Obama down, but I don’t see how he can fire Fitzgerald or pardon Blago and Rezko. Nobody is that heavily coated in teflon.

  23. So how long did Obama serve Illinois as an elected representative? And in all that time what reform did he bring while keeping his hands clean? Wasn’t it Sarah Palin, the woman with “no experience,” who made a name for herself as a political reformer in less time? Obamatrons can’t even do simple math much less catch on to a shell game after it’s been pulled on them for the umpteenth time!

  24. [reposted from previous thread]

    The major issue facing Obama’s camp now is: are they going to be upfront with who contacted Blag and when? If they instead play the “it’s an ongoing investigation, and we can’t comment” game, how are they going to pretend to be different from Bush? (The irony will be especially poignant because it would likewise be in response to a Fitzgerald investigation of abuse of power.)

    And of course this last play will then be a further litmus test of how much KoolAid poisoning an Obama supporter has suffered. If they now support Obama’s stonewalling in the exact same way that Bush stonewalled, then the brain damage is irreversible.

  25. myiq-i found buttbuger!

    very little meat there mostly spam!

  26. What the American people need to know from Obama is who among his staff spoke to whom when, and about what.

    If, once upon a time, progressives considered it scandalous that Bush would not answer like questions about Plamegate, then it is scandalous now if Obama refuses to do so.

    See: good for goose, good for gander.

  27. bostonboomer, on December 10th, 2008 at 1:35 pm

    BB, you’d be surprised. The fact that Obama will be our first “black” president helps him a lot in these manners. The media is on his side. It will look bad for Obama to fire Fitz but I am willing to say that he could do it and remain President without further investigation. Obama is a corrupt man and he does not like anyone who questions or criticizes him or his friends. Fitz better watch his back for the next 4 years. Also, we all thought that no one would be able to win with a pastor like Jeremiah Wright and friends like Rezko but the media let those slide too. Obama will be the next George W. Bush and his administration will be corrupt because the media will do nothing to expose him.

  28. I don’t know what barry should be worried about here. He won’t get impeached, probably won’t even have to use the pardon power.

    He may get some bad press and have to admit to doing a couple of boneheaded things– all the more reason to keep favreau for that big speech.

  29. Myiq they really really dont like you they are almost pathological in their obsession of talking about you and I think it is a site of sick in the head people!

    they ignored the rest of my comment about the retention of Sec Def Gates and all the Clintonistas running around …as well asObama selling them out thay had nothing to say!

  30. I think that wriggling is so ingrained in Obama’s personality that he probably does it without thinking. Hopefully, this character tic will come back to bite him in the a$$ one day. He truly is a combination of Nixon and Bush, two of the worst US Presidents in history IMO.

  31. Joseph Cannon suspects that “President-Elect Advisor” named in the complaint is Rahm Emmanuel. Cannon refers to a comment by Blago that refers to Emmanuel’s Congressional District.

    Cannon also speculates that the Mercy Hospital deal investigation could touch on Biden’s son, Hunter, in his role as a lobbyist. Very interesting.

  32. What cuts the Lightbringer to the quick is how others see him — he gets his entire self-esteem on how others preceive him. He is spinning right now. He will do any and everything he can to distance himself. On a personal level, he can’t survive any other way.

    His whole persona is getting others to like him — this might be the biggest thing he has ever faced in his life. That in and of itself speaks volumes.

  33. they gave me a tin foil hat award for my comment on obama being a puppet of the megacorps and such….

    I will wear it with pride!

  34. DV,

    I said I thought this would not bring Obama down.

  35. Ongoing investigation. Didn’t Obama say that?

    Yeah, um…kind of hard to move on from something that’s still going on.

    👿

  36. gxm17, Obama might be even more dangerous because he is a man who uses his skin color to get away with some pretty bad stuff and the media and Democrats allow him to do it because calling him out would be r@cist. Obama will never get into trouble until there is solid proof like a tape. Obama knows this which is why he continues to lie and make up poor excuses for the things that he does and says. He will never do the right thing until he absolutely has to in order to save his own behind. We saw him do this with Jeremiah Wright.

    Obama will never say anything about Favreau and unfortunately there is a good chance Obama will get to keep him because Democratic men are on his side. I haven’t seen a single male Democrat or male pundit angry over this. It really tells you the culture we live in and what most of these men do and say at private parties and functions. It tells me that most of these men do the same thing which is why they don’t see anything wrong with what Favreau did.

  37. btw, BB – sorry to be an anal Virgo, but the word is “exonerated.”

    😉

  38. Myiq they really really dont like you they are almost pathological in their obsession of talking about you and I think it is a site of sick in the head people!

    I keep telling him not to be wasting away in Marko Cheetoville.

  39. madamab congrats on the new job!

  40. Let me put on my tin foil hat for this one. I think that if the Gov. is not happy with whatever deal he is offered, the next people investigated will be Mr. Jones and then our transformative President Elect. Question is will Fitzgerald is still be the prosecutor on this case after January 20, 2009. Obama is probably trying to solidify his supporters at this time before any further investigation. Oh to be a fly on the wall of Mr. Fitzgerald’s office. Get ready for some more WORMs.

  41. Just a silly thought, but if you were an elected official who was morally and emotionally committed to serving your constituents, wouldn’t you be interested in knowing who would be taking up the mantle and making sure he/she would be up to the task?

    So either BZero wasn’t concerned about his constituents or he’s lying — his Tomtom is telling him his current position is, “between a rock and a hard place.”

  42. cnn headline:

    Senate choice may be out of Blagojevich’s hands

    ohmg yathink?

  43. DisenfranchisedVoter, on December 10th, 2008 at 1:53 pm Said:
    I haven’t seen a single male Democrat or male pundit angry over this.
    **************************************

    My husband is pissed as hell, but then again he isn’t a democrat. I don’t see how ANY male who has daughters, a wife, a mother, an aunt, and/or a sister, can actually make excuses for that behaviour. Even if they may chuckle about it amongst themselves, how the hell do they have the balls to actually go on the air or online and excuse it?

  44. catarina, on December 10th, 2008 at 2:03 pm Said:
    cnn headline:

    Senate choice may be out of Blagojevich’s hands

    ohmg yathink?
    ****************************************

    LOL. WHo is left in whosville, Illinois that hasn’t been caught on tape? Figure that out and you will know their next Senator.

  45. Emil Jones is already on the list of persons of interest that fitzgerald will be speaking with. I am betting he never speaks to obama.

  46. Prolix> I think it’s about power. Is it really possible that the President Elect will take no interest in who takes his Senate seat? Lunacy! It might technically be the Governor’s choice, but the President Elect – and the leader of the party to which the Governor belongs – would under normal circumstances be able to pick his own successor. The difference here is that Blago is not your typical governor. Obama certainly knows this, but I don’t buy for a minute that he did not try to flex his muscle as the President Elect to get his candidate into that seat. Blago didn’t play along – and the shit hit the fan.

  47. I think we are going to see the Road Runner, a.k.a. Obama, beep-beep past Wile E. Coyote once again. Obama is just too fast for the criminal justice authorities to catch.

  48. Jarett will end up next Senator.

  49. Now wait a second, didn’t axelbub say he “misspoke” about obama meeting with blago about filling his seat? Someone really should call this local news station and tell them they misspoke/misstyped too.

    http://www.connecttristates.com/news/news_story.aspx?id=217582

    Who will fill Obama’s senate seat?

    Ill. governor meeting with Obama today

    By Carol Sowers
    Wednesday, November 05, 2008 at 10:39 a.m.

    CHICAGO, ILL. — Now that Barack Obama will be moving to the White House, his seat in the U.S. Senate representing Illinois will have to be filled.

    That’s one of Obama’s first priorities today.

    He’s meeting with Governor Rod Blagojevich this afternoon in Chicago to discuss it.

  50. ainnj, Because these guys have excused this type of behavior their entire lives. I’ve seen it myself. In college, the frat boys will cover for each other and lie so a fellow comrade can get away with hitting or raping a woman. Then it’s onto the workforce and we all know that Capitol Hill is one of the sleaziest places around where it is commonplace to see powerful men treat female interns like disposable objects. Also in the media and cable news, it is the men who rule and the women who make it to the top are more known for their physical traits than their hard hitting news reports. This is the culture we live in, folks. What Favreau did is so common that these jerks can’t see what is wrong with this type of behavior.

  51. Fuzzy:

    They remind of fleas who think they own the dog.

    They’re legends in their own minds.

    They troll us, Corrente and all the non-kool-aid lefty blogs.

  52. It’s plain & simple….Obama 101……….He threw Blag & Jones
    “under-the-bus”. That’s why Obama wasn’t playing the game.
    Obama “Doesn’t need the game or them anymore”. Thanks to the American people / he got the BRASS RING!!

  53. If it’s not too late to throw another name out there for Hillary’s seat, I’d like to suggest Chelsea. It is my understanding that dynasty is not off the table.

  54. hmm, Blago said he wasn’t resiging; B0 calls for his resignation — it should be interested to see what two self-loving narcissistic dickheads do when trying to stare down the other — will B0’s audacity to play all “holier than Blagojevitch” going to make Blago blink, or will it make him sing louder, sooner?

  55. myiq — there is a non-kool aid lefty blog besides Corrente & us?

  56. Wonderful idea!!! Sophie

    Best suggestion I’ve read in months…

  57. Sophie,

    YES!
    Chelsea for senator. I’ve heard her speak and she’s really quite good.

  58. I get AP stories with my e-mail, and right now the AP is making barry look like a really great guy by calling for blago to resign. A real integrity hawk. he’ll take some lumps from the press eventually, but for now he’s fine.

  59. Chelsea is just as brilliant as her mother. I continue to hear that Chelsea has no interest in going into politics. After seeing what her mother went through I don’t blame her. But it would be wonderful to see someone as hardworking and intelligent as Chelsea go into politics someday. I already trust her to get more done than Caroline or Ted. Hopefully Chelsea will change her mind ten years from now and run for Congress, Senate, and maybe even President.

  60. elderj — sorry! I’d actually had to go to work for a bit! LOL Here ya go:

    How in the f*ck can people continually stomach this dogf*cker and retain any semblance of integrity?

    Is that good enough? 🙂

  61. Sophie said: “It is my understanding that dynasty is not off the table.”

    I just read this morning that “For much of her adult life, Caroline Kennedy fulfilled only the most modest obligation of her political birthright.”

    I did not realize we had *political birthright* in this country.

  62. angienc, on December 10th, 2008 at 2:18 pm Said:
    hmm, Blago said he wasn’t resiging; B0 calls for his resignation — it should be interested to see what two self-loving narcissistic dickheads do when trying to stare down the other — will B0’s audacity to play all “holier than Blagojevitch” going to make Blago blink, or will it make him sing louder, sooner?
    ********************************************8

    well it seems to me that somebody pulled the plug on blago, rahm maybe, as they were tired of paying up. Blago needs cash now more than ever for his defense fund. Looks like he will either sing his song to fitzgerald or someone will have to keep paying up.

  63. Polo is back! But polo doesn’t even know how to use google. Or maybe he only googles photos of Obama for his private enjoyment. If polo knew how to google he’d surely be able to cross reference people Obama has picked for his administration and people who used to work for Bill Clinton. There are at least 10 names there. But then polo would come back and say: “But can you name 20? 30? Huh? Huh? Huh?”

  64. I hope gov. paterson had the forethought to bug his own phones! I am sure he has gotten quite a few “persuasive” calls from uncle teddy’s buddies concerning political futures and caroline’s birthright!

  65. http://www.observer.com/mobile/article/80066

    After Illinois, Paterson Eyes Merit, 2010 for a Senator
    by Azi Paybarah on December 10, 2008

    After speaking in praise of retiring Chief Judge Judith Kaye at an event on West 44th Street last night, I asked Paterson if the news out of Illinois is affecting his decision-making process about Hillary Clinton’s vacant senate seat.

    He said it made him “more resolved” to find someone based on “merit” and to pick someone who can win in 2010.

    “I’m not going to comment on anything that happened in any other state, but what I would say is that just hearing the news makes me more resolved to the fact that this has to be a merit process,” he said. “The only thing I should be thinking about is the merits of the candidates. And the only thing the candidates should be thinking about is demonstrating that in lieu of an election that they would serve the state the best. Interestingly enough I was reading that there have been, there have been, I think in the last century, over 80 times when governors have had to appoint senators. And since 1960, there have been 48. Of the 48, 10 have just decided to serve out the term and not run for election. Of the 38 that ran for election, only 18 won. So, less than half actually won. So, as I think about that, because of the precious nature of seniority in Washington, I’m hoping that a candidate that I select would win in 2010. Because what’s very key in the U.S. Senate, and what the U.S. senators that I’ve spoken to have apprised me, is that seniority is very important.”

  66. angie:

    Cannonfire – Joseph doesn’t touch the flavored sugar-water.

  67. Sounds to me like Gov. Paterson is telling Princess Caroline to take a hike and get some merit!

  68. d’oh! I forgot Cannonfire! It’s a great site — and you are the one who lead me there — I never did thank you for that one — thanks myiq! xoxo

  69. Because what’s very key in the U.S. Senate, and what the U.S. senators that I’ve spoken to have apprised me, is that seniority is very important.

    So true.

  70. Polo

    Go back to masturbating to your Obama commemorative coin collection. No one is interested in educating you further than instructing you to google.

  71. polo — who the eff do you think you are to “give Fuzzy Holder” — as Glenda the Good Witch (me) told the Wicked Witch of the West — off with you YOU HAVE NO POWER HERE!

  72. professional staff and Obama- heh Considering Favreau-I’d say that professional is not something Obama considers when hiring on team members. Frat boys ought to be exclusionary.

  73. DYB, on December 10th, 2008 at 2:32 pm Said:
    Sounds to me like Gov. Paterson is telling Princess Caroline to take a hike and get some merit!
    ******************************************

    maybe. But at the very least he won’t want to appoint someone if there is enough noise that it’s being done to somehow “boost” his own career or because he is afraid of payback if he doesn’t. should be interesting…

  74. am I missing posts or is someone really on the ball with deleting?

  75. angie:

    Be gentle with our visitor – strong women cause “shrinkage” among the ButtBurger Boiz

  76. Someone’s on the ball. Polo is a stalker. yesterday he fixated on MyIq – today he is after Fuzzy. Apparently,polo has a hard time understanding why the guys here won’t join the boyz frat team.

  77. myiq — I understand the shrinkage concept, but don’t you actually have something there to shrink? 🙂

  78. If he wants gentle he should stay at Buttburger……If he comes here he better be prepared to put on his big boy underoos.

  79. Show them a vajayjay and it’s like a turtle retreating into its shell.

  80. Fitzgerald is doing his RICO thing. He goes for the weakest link. After reading Blagojevich”s quotes it is obvious that this man has “issues” beyond his criminality. This is not even close to being over and he is drawing in wives, contributors, contractors, and supplicants.

    The press conference yesterday was extraordinary in that Fitzgerald asked the public and/or anyone with information to contact his office. The press and Obama spinners tried to make it sound like Fitz needs help. This was a polite warning to various club members to get into his office to tell everything they know before being called before a grand jury and being indicted. This is finesse at its finest. Fitz looks like the boy scout while threatening the political class of Chicago.

  81. A real one that is, they aren’t afraid of the ones they look at on the internet while they . . . well, you know what they do.

  82. Carville is a putz, just like you polo.

    Enjoy being an apologist to an asshat sexist polo. It speaks volumes about who you are and what you believe.

  83. polo again, I repeat: off with you, you have no power here.

    It is one thing to be a moron, it is another to not even know you are a moron, but to come here and throw around allegations that Heidi — a well respected professor — is “conning” us is libelous — I know having suckled on the teat of B0 you don’t understand the difference between right and wrong, but ignorance is no excuse for the law.

  84. but but but

    It’s not fairrrrrrrrr, how dare the mean mean ladies say that when you draw a salary from the taxpayers that you should actually exercise maturity and sound judgement………It’s mean…….Wah, wah, wah, Your whining is juvenile polo. Considering who you revere(Jon Favreau and Obama) it is oh so unsurprising though.

  85. myiq — well you learn something new everyday — see, I didn’t think tr0lls like polo cared much for vajayjays (real or in pictures) because I always thought it was the CDS and PDS that got them “hot.”

  86. At least this means Emil Jones is unlikely to get Obama’s seat. I got real problems with Emil, and I think the stench around him will be too great now.

    I’m so glad Peter Flaherty spoke out; I’m hungry for a Democrat to speak some common sense these days.

  87. CWaltz — We’re not mean. The obots are just sissies.

  88. When I first started going online about 10 years ago chats rooms were really popular.

    But there were lots of 12-14 year old boys that would use them for thrills, pretending to be adults and talking dirty.

    They grew up to be trolls

  89. PLEASE NOTE: yesterday amid all the hubbub surrounding Blago’s arrest, Fitzgerald issued subpoenas concerning the Rezko/Obama land deal –this is big!! (cannonfire has more).

  90. Oooh, it sounds like I missed a good polo post!

    JJJ is finding out that he was not Obama’s first choice to take over the Senate seat. That must sting after being Barky’s campaign co-chair. Now Blago is hearing Barky demand he resign. This really is a game of chicken…

    I wonder if Olbermann will make Fitzgerald the worst person in the world today?

  91. Sounds to me that Gov. Paterson realizes that experience and ability is what is needed to make it and that’s a good thing!

  92. My understanding from yesterday’s press conference was that Patrick was basically inviting people to get in touch with his office as this investigation unfolds. He said that he was encouraged by phone calls that he had received yesterday morning about the arrest going down on this pig Blago.

    Obviously the investigation is going forward. Patrick has too much integrity to just make an announcement then disappear. As I was saying to him this morning at breakfast, the country is looking toward you to shed more light on the Chicago Machine and if that means Obama, let the chips fall where they may.

    This thing has “legs”!!

  93. As for Jim Carville, I never thought I’d emphathize with Cheney-loving Mary Matalin, but right now I feel that I have more in common with her than her doofus husband. Consultants, lobbyists, pundits….. what a bunch of pimps.

  94. Gov. Paterson realizes that pissing off more Hillary people may impact his ability to be re-elected if he so chooses to be.

  95. myiq, I am not sure about you.

  96. Me either

  97. Didn’t we say that land deal was suspicious, Ang?

  98. Angie- It’d explain the psuedo machismo and the “there is nothing wrong with groping a cardboard cutout(since the real thing wasn’t available for us to molest) and pretending to pour beer down it’s throat. crap” These guys don’t see anything wrong with it because they are intimidated by REAL women so all they are used to dealing with are paperdolls and blow up dolls.

  99. angie: the interesting think about that land deal is that if it goes deep enough, it involves Michelle and her participation in Operation Board Games via that historical buildings board.

  100. Today is one of my better days – battling the diabetes.

    IMHO – Blago is the sacrificial lamb given to Fitz in lieu of pursuing the Obama Rezko issue. This way BO gets to be pres while everyone looks the other way, and Fitz gets to clean up some of Chicago and even, inadvertently, make BO look good.

    There is no way in h* that BO is clean – he’s a product of this machine and could not have succeeded without playing their game.

  101. Where are those journalists like Woodward and Bernstein who tracked the Watergate story down to the finish? Their careers were made as a result and the chief line of that investigation was owed to Deep Throat who insisted they “follow the money”.

    From the looks of this IL mess, that should be as easy as tracking Hansel and Gretel through the goddamn woods!

  102. Polo posts are pretty mundane and simplistic. Here’s the jist Obama and anyone who he chose regardless of their behavior= poor maligned Messiah and his apostles PUMAs= mean, mean people who need to get lives……..add in a couple of blah blah blahs and I have reproduced it.

  103. *stares in awe* And yet his fingers don’t explode from continuous meaninglyess blather.

  104. A high school student could determine that that “land deal” was in need of a dose of Febreeze. Anyone denying that has their head shoved up their butts. Quid. Pro. Quo.

  105. I wonder if Olbermann will make Fitzgerald the worst person in the world today?

    Prolly…but I’ll never know because I don’t watch that asshat any more.

  106. Isolde, on December 10th, 2008 at 2:46 pm Said:

    The press conference yesterday was extraordinary in that Fitzgerald asked the public and/or anyone with information to contact his office. The press and Obama spinners tried to make it sound like Fitz needs help. This was a polite warning to various club members to get into his office to tell everything they know before being called before a grand jury and being indicted. This is finesse at its finest. Fitz looks like the boy scout while threatening the political class of Chicago.

    So very true – finesse at its finest. Perfect wording!

  107. There is no way in h* that BO is clean – he’s a product of this machine and could not have succeeded without playing their game.

    Exactly. He would have been laughed off the field.

  108. wow polo is an ineffectual psuedo intellectual

    gotta love that …. hillarious

  109. Wait, I thought we were meaningless. We can do all that damage? Damn, we’re good.

    By the way, there’s a Democratic Majority in both chambers. If he wants to pass liberal legislation all he has to do is sign it.

    He won’t.

  110. Pat: those “journalists” are too busy making many millions for themselves and getting jobs for their kids by bull-shitting the public. I like to think Woodward and Bernstein would be honorable even if those circumstances, but who knows? These a**holes today are too busy swilling lucre, puffing up over their influence, and watching themselves on TV monitors to care.

  111. Hey nutjob polo you’re babbling again

    I haven’t said a darn thing about Caroline(although I DO support a person who actually does have experience and a record over her. So much for that dynasty argument you all used to be so fond of. Do you guys EVER get tired of twisting yourself into pretzels). You must have missed some of your meds and are acting out your delusions.

    In closing here let me sum up your next 700 posts

    (summoning up my best you tube guy imitation)

    Leave Bar-ack O-bama AAAAAAAAlone (polos mascara running down his cheeks at the injustice of criticism of Plastic Jesus).

    Grow up little Polo because we are just getting warmed up.

  112. polo: Are you addressing me? Don’t bother. If the “strong Democratic president” you are referring to is the same one waiting in the wings biting his fingernails and lighting up his cancer stick, I don’t think so.

    But good luck in your contortions. You will need them more often then you realize. This man is not a man of the people unless you are counting those in his inner chambers and even they have a habit of getting thrown off the Obama Express to Nowhere.

    Meantime, good job yourself. We idiots here are much too busy hampering The One’s ability to pass liberal legislation. We just haven’t quite figured out just what the hell that is.

  113. Is this some kind of new record?…..He isn’t in office yet and he already is being investigated?

  114. Obama did steal the election

    The fact that he got delegates in a state he wasn’t even on the ballot on is Chicago style politics at its finest. Just to carry it over the top though, the rules gave him not only the delegates he didn’t earn but 4 delegates that CLINTON earned. You can revise all you like but I hope Blago sings like an Opera star and Obama gets his karmic reward for that little piece of work. I didn’t stay in the military for 11 years to have an oligarchy or banana republic.

  115. The bug zapper got polo.

  116. Polo-Don’t mess with Pat, she will chew you up and spit you out, you little pisher.

    This whole thing is sad for everyone. Here we have an historical moment, so many people begging for change, needing it to restore their faith in the system. People are homeless, losing their jobs, the war, I could go on and on. They put themselves completely and totally behind this guy and this is what happens,

    Just makes you want to be sick.

  117. polo: What is your point? You come here uninvited and slam the posters with inane comments and for what reason? What exactly do you get out of this? You fully understand our points of view and you must know that nothing you say will change our perspectives.

    Yet you continue to intrude and insert idiot comments that show little or no thought beyond submission. If you hate and despise us so much, go away. I can guarantee your absence will go unnoticed.

    Truthfully, outside of tickling your own toes, nothing you say is of any import to us. Find yourself another playground.

  118. TRK

    heh, you’d figure after 8 years the American public would be tired of people who lie and cheat. Apparently not.

  119. You know that Wikipedia entry on Peter Flaherty that’s linked above states that Flaherty died in 2005. Did he release this statement from beyond the grave? Did he foresee it before he died? Or have rumors of his death been greatly exaggerated?

  120. If y’all want to chat with polo I’ll quit moderating this thread and let you conversate.

  121. Karma is a bitch! Just knowing that Jesse Jackson, Jr. may have his shorthairs tied up in a bunch is the single most wonderful thing that has come out of this mess!

    That little pissant has had it coming for a long time. Hopefully this is just the start of the other Obama domino’s falling down.

    Would be interesting to know if that hospital that MO worked for was also held up by receiving state money unless a “contribution of sorts”, namely a pretty big salary, was promised to The One’s spouse.

    She sure did well for herself there!

  122. elderj, on December 10th, 2008 at 1:19 pm Said:

    Make room under the bus for Blago!! He can have the seat next to Wright & Ayers

    don’t forget Barry’s typical white woman grandmother.

  123. So has this Blag situation obscured what is going on re TK-CK and dynastic politics?

  124. myiq please keep nuking the little fucker
    he adds nothing to the conversation

    oh looky the barack obama coin set, not sold in stores.
    being pimped by monteil williams!
    get your credit cards ready!

  125. polo is a nolo.

    bostonboomer, you do a terrific job drawing together the evidence. And my only complaint is, seeing the National Legal and Policy Center makes me queasy. That’s a notoriously right-wing anti-worker pro-corporate bunch of kooks. And you don’t need them — plenty of serious, non-kooky people can, and are starting to, put the pieces together.

    I’ve been reading the indictment (it’s amazing stuff!) and anyone who does so can clearly, see that it in NO way exonerates Obama. What is clear is that “Presidential Adviser A” (who, as Cannonfire makes a good case for, is probably Rahm Emannuel) was acting as the bribe broker between Blago and Obama, and that Obama’s ONLY hesitation was in which particular bribe to sign onto. Obama, of course, wanted the one that would put him at further distance from Blago. So it’s like the old joke, “we’ve already determined what you are, now we just have to determine the price.”

  126. polo, learn spelling and grammar before you post with the grownups. Seriously.

  127. I think this situation has made it very unlikely that Paterson will take to Kennedy’s bullying. There’s a statement from Paterson quoted above somewhere that he plans to pick someone who he thinks can win in 2010 and someone with experience. Princess Caroline has no experience and will not win upstate NY if she actually runs for office.

  128. Remember when Obama said something to the effect ‘I know politics, afterall ,I’m from Chicago…and you know what people think about Chicago politics’..I know that’s nowhere close, but you get my point…
    He knew Ayers, but he didn’t know who Ayers was..he knew Rezko, but didn’t think he was a sleaze , he knew Rev. Wright for 20 years and who was his mentor and spiritual adviser, yet he never was present when Wright preached hate and lies on Sunday morning services.
    Oh Please!!!

  129. DYB: The wiki entry sure reads like he’s dead. I don’t think they faked the obit. Its rather long and detailed.

  130. polo the nolo.

  131. Don’t feed the trolls.

  132. He has a son named Peter, however.

  133. I thought it was Rollo.

  134. I’m in moderation so I’ll say it again.

    Don’t feed the Tr0lls.

  135. I think this post may need to be edited to reflect that the Peter who wrote the press release is the son, Peter and not the dead guy Peter. I.e., the Peter who wrote the press release is not the former AG, Mayor of PGH, etc. I just googled Peter Flaherty and there is a guy in Arlington who worked for Mitt Romney and is a social conservative. Probably the dead Peter Flaherty’s son, since the dead Peter Flaherty was Catholic, too, according to the Obit.

    Just FYI.

  136. who the hell is polo? I went 1/2 way back to hear what he had to say that has gotten everyone up in arms, but i can’t find what he said. Please clue me in so i can take a pot shot!!

  137. I can’t make my links work, even using Katiebird’s instructions. Anyway, the article is on boston dot com. Look up Romney and Flaherty and you’ll get the article.

  138. Mary Beth:

    He had to leave, a vajayjay scared him.

  139. Polo is a cyber stalker and sexist apologizer infatuated with cardboard cutouts and those who molest them and the teleprompter Jesus. Missing his posts isn’t missing much.

    More persistence then brains- He’s been told to take a hike repeatedly.

  140. Micki
    How did the the brie risotto turn out?

  141. Catarina, it was DELICIOUS! It was an ass-ache to make, but well worth it. And the roasted cauliflower (Yum–throws floret at Catarina) was really good in it, with the brie flavor. It got rave reviews from my guests. 🙂

    I plan to make the cod with capers this weekend for husband. Thanks again!

  142. I think we are about to be treated to another visit from yesteryear: What did he know and when did he know it?

    I love retro!

  143. damn i wish cauliflower didn’t smell like an old sneaker!

    but i will try the risotto using brie and just add more wine in place of cauliflower.

  144. I’m less than fond of retro at this point. Geez, I’m tired of crooks representing the people.


  145. It is one thing to be a moron, it is another to not even know you are a moron, but to come here and throw around allegations that Heidi — a well respected professor — is “conning” us is libelous…

    I must say, as the person probably farthest from her politics here, that I have been among the most impressed with the palpable concern for integrity with which she posts.

    Remarks which, should she come in here later today, I should not be the least upset to have her see.

  146. Yeah, just reserve some of your liquid, b/c the brie really gums it up when you add it. You have to thin it out after.

  147. i was out reading that it might have been Emmanuel who talked to Blagovich

  148. and Obama was being investigated long while he was running, it’s just no one was paying any attention to it

  149. Rahmbo is Obama’s new consiglieri

  150. Rahm Emmanueal the “New” Scooter Libby……..shall we bet on it?

  151. CWaltz: that’s my thought precisely

  152. They’ve confirmed candidate number five is JJ Jr:

    Candidate 5 is said to have engaged in possible wrongdoing by engaging in discussions through an emissary about a possible quid pro quo with Mr. Blagovich’s camp

    this just from NYTIMES

  153. According to the compliant, Mr. Blagojevich threatened to appoint Candidate 5 to the vacant post, rather than another candidate he thought Mr. Obama would prefer, if Mr. Obama would not help place Mr. Blagojevich’s wife “on paid corporate boards right now.”
    The complaint also said that in a wiretapped conversation on Oct. 31, Mr. Blagojevich told an associate about an approach by the emissary from Candidate 5: “We were approached ‘pay to play.’ That you know, he’d raise me 500 grand. An emissary came. Then the other guy would raise a million, if I made him [Senate Candidate 5] a senator.”

  154. This sounds like fun– the Rahmbo and JJJr stuff. BTW, Dkat, my apologies for teasing last night. As BO would say, “just messin’ with you…”

  155. wonder who the emissary is …

    i’m going to make you an offer, you can’t refuse

  156. johnica: np and no apologies required … i’m just appallingly jaded 😉

  157. jjj is no-show at a news conf right now
    Obama must have shoved a sock in his mouth

  158. Chicago is a cesspool. Phew! Isn’t it super awesome that BO made it out of there w/o taint!

    Where is afrocity? I think we should have a list of Chicago punk ass pols with afrocity’s evaluation of each. A Reference for the Rest of Us. Chicago Politics For Dummies.

  159. I hope Fitzgerald is able to pick up some more rocks and pull the scum out from under them and expose them to the light of day.

  160. Micki:

    What makes you think he’s not tainted?

  161. Massachusetts was the number one fundraising state per capita for Obama.
    I need to move.

  162. Looking for Integrity–I forgot: (/snark)

  163. I think that was snark looking for integrity.

  164. Yes! Catarina, move to Philadelphia!!! YAY!!!

  165. Micki
    we would get into so much trouble!
    The husbands would have to keep large sums of cash in the house for bail..
    ok
    you be Thelma I’ll be Louise-no wait, which one got Brad?

  166. I think Micki was joking–making reference to a starry-eyed post from Cheetoville that Cannonfire was mocking yesterday.
    The poster was blathering about how wonderful it was that the Messiah could emerge from that cesspool unstained and pure as the driven snow.

    Uh-huh.

    This is also the new MSM talking point, of course, and it’s supported by breathless repetition of the “fact” that Fitzgerald didn’t cite Obama in his indictment. We all know that Fitzgerald is a careful prosecutor who takes his time and doesn’t jump to conclusions without solid evidence, but in no way do his statements leave Obama free and clear. In fact, it’s quite clear from reading the indictment that Obama was dealing with Blago–he just wanted a different deal with him. They were negotiating the terms of the bribe, NOT whether a bribe would occur. That’s the point nobody seems willing to make but it’s right there in black and white in the indictment.

  167. I don’t like Brad. You can have him! Whichever one had him, you can be that one. Wait, that makes me Susan Sarandon. I can’t have that. I will have to be Geena Davis and have Brad. Small price to pay for not being associated with Sarandon. Can I recast and have Hugh Jackman instead?

  168. Oh, I am a fan of Afrocity too– her integrity and incisiveness.

    I dropped all references though to her “haunting beauty” because people might have significant others that might get upset, a lesson I learned with the riverdaughter poem.

  169. Micki

    Sorry – snark is good.

    Yes, Fitz is very careful and holds his cards close to his vest. I admire his guts.

  170. Micki — You might want to rethink that one – word on the street is that Hugh Jackman (despite being married) is a friend of Dorothy.

  171. Oh, good, someone finally mentioned Hugh Jackman. So I can segue into this juicy tidbit and not be too OT.

    Did you know that his wife had him keep the Wolverine outfit on when he came home from the set? Damn, that’s one lucky b!tch!!

  172. looking for integrity–no problem. 🙂

  173. Angie! WTF?

    Can’t I just have my Wolverine fantasy?

  174. brit-wtf is the wolverine outfit??
    I missed something good, didn’t I?

  175. johninca — did someone really get upset about the RD poem? I read it as complimentary with a little poetic license not as a bona fide offer! LOL

  176. Angienc – thanks…. your inserts to my original comments fit the bill exactly.

    I hope this thing fits the fan in a big way so that BO can’t escape the stench of it and so much so that the media will be forced to deal with it

  177. Oh, happy day! I’ll google up something tasty. BRB.

  178. elderj — that is the only way the media will deal with it — if they are forced to –kicking and screaming, I might add.

  179. angienc, why do you have to harsh my mellow?

    Sigh. Well, he is still beautiful.

    Ok, can I pick Ioan Gruffud, also an X-Men, who I liked long ago when he was Horatio Hornblower?

  180. Micki — well, Wolverine is definitely not gay, so there ya go. Hugh Jackman? not so much.

  181. Wait, is Ioan an XMAN person? I can’t keep those dumb movies straight.

  182. angie– I’m not sure but I think her bff might have been upset, so I’m back to writing poems about men.

    Now if I were he, I’d have pretended to like it, get my e-mail through devious means, and then pay me large sums of money to write sonnets made to look like they came from him.

  183. yeah, but Angie, I don’t care about the wolverine thing! Britgirls is covered, but what have you left me? I may cut you.

  184. johninca — well I think your idea would have been the better play! LOL

  185. ok I google him-he’s not so great!
    I’m more of an Adrian Paul girl.
    He’s getting old but so am I 😉

  186. Okay … I give up. There are too many fine looking pictures of Hugh Jackman out there. Phew! Is it hot in here?

  187. very warm, brit, very warm

    o-kay
    any more names in the Blago drama?

  188. Sorry Micki — I was disappointed myself when I heard — but really, you must have gotten a hint after the fabu job he did in The Boy from Oz:

    http://www.beyondtherainbow2oz.com/bfo.html

  189. Angie. 😦 Britgirls will enjoy that montage.

  190. Not much to the “costume”, other than the claws he pretty much wears regular clothing and has the longish sideburns. He has some awesome droolworthy pecs on him though .

  191. Okay, from now on he’s only to be referred to as Hugh Jazzhands.

    What a disappointment.

  192. He’s married anyways. I would never stab a sister in the back over a man. There are more than enough of them to go around.

  193. britgirls — Hugh Jazzhands! I love it! LOL

  194. CWaltz — I agree with that — never with a married man — (a) I would never stab a sister in the back and (b) I have too much respect for myself.

    HOWEVER, if, in fact, Patrick Fitzgerald is married, I’ll make an exception. Mrs. Fitzgerald (if there is one) will not miss him during the few hours I need him.


  195. I would never stab a sister in the back over a man. There are more than enough of them to go around.

    That’s the spirit. We can be so gross that I often wonder why women want us– that is, when they do want us.

  196. BTW, johninca, how’re you liking those 158 comments on your poem thread last night, huh?

    They love you … they really love you!

  197. I’m leaving work — see you all tonight at 9:30 EST for The View from Under the Bus with me, afrocity, regency, madamab & SOD on PUR.
    It is the premier episode – be there or be square! 🙂

  198. Good luck tonight, angie.

    Of course, I’ll be too nervous to call in myself … but don’t you be nervous, too!

  199. Thinking about Obama & Chicago .. . it’s like they all swim in the same pool … but of course , ‘he’ swims in different water … Same Pool , Different Water.

    wondering just how close jjj & zeroman are/were …obviously jjj was not ‘his’ choice …

  200. is JJJr under the bus now too? Geez it’s getting crowded under here and Donna Brazile is starting to smell… anyone want to change seats?

  201. Hi everyone! I can’t wait for the radio show tonight.

    I was listening to NPR on the way home, and they said that both Dick Durbin and Barack Obama have said that Patrick Fitzgerald will be asked to stay on as U.S. Attorney in IL.

  202. Britgirls, you are so kind! Yeah, I was laughing so uncontrollably about Blagojevich that the people next door could have thought I had lost my mind.

    Still not as much fun as writing about a beautiful woman, though. RD is taken, you’re taken, I’m sure Afrocity is taken, Catarina is taken too. Everybody’s taken.

  203. this is interestingly snarky view from a conservative perspective:

    http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=29848

  204. I am not the former Mayor of Pittsburgh. He is deceased.

  205. No Elderj.. He’s not under the bus .. as far as I know .. .. but it turns out that Obama’s choice for his senate seat was .. Valerie Jarrett …not JJJ .. Elderj – Cannonfire has a good analysis .. on this .. scroll down as he has been updating ever since the news broke ..

    http://cannonfire.blogspot.com/

  206. Lol
    good link, elderj
    “change you can bid on”

  207. Peter Flaherty,

    I’m so sorry to have misidentified you! Thank you and I’ll correct my post.

  208. Good job. This was a nice blog. I congratulate you on finding the screen grab I searched for it yesterday and not finding it I decided not to mention what I could not prove. Thanks.

  209. Thanks for the h/t bb…
    Had to run earlier. Great post as usual!

    Seems to me it would only make sense if BO spoke to Blago about this appointment. Flatly denying the communication is suspect in itself.

  210. Gee Quaker:

    Whaddya expect? If you associate with criminals, people are gonna figure you’re a crook too.

  211. Curious that the screen grab talks about a meeting that is “going to happen” but had not yet happened when the article was written.

    How about something that discusses the meeting AFTER it actually happened? Because really, the screen grab here is absolutely nothing at all. I can easily say I’m going to meet with the Dalai Lama tomorrow. Doesnt’ mean it’s going to happen.

    Any credible articles about the meeting after it went down? Anyone?

  212. Check Gov. Blago’s website, or click on the link in the update. Duh!

  213. Can I say something (but my comment might not be posted, but I hope it does).

    First the US Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald pointed why the President-elect is featured in the report because it protean to his Senate seat, but that there were NO allegations towards Obama himself or his team.

    Second that photo of Obama shacking hands with Blagojevich was at the Governors’ meeting Obama had with all the US governors which he shook hands with everyone.

    Lastly, that news report of the Nov.5 meeting was taken down because the original news source COULDN’T confirm if the meet actually took place. So at this point in time it just it’s not a confirm fact.

    Also this isn’t a Obama scandal, but a Blagojevich scandal. Obama and his people have done no wrong doing, even the US Attorney in charged in this case said so, so I don’t understand why you are trying to make this into a Obama scandal.

  214. The reason the story from November 5th should not have been taken down and clarified is because the article said that a meeting was scheduled. Can you imagine how many articles inform people about things that are scheduled out there? For example an article might say “Tomorrow Senator Y will be meeting with Celebrity X to discuss a joint appearance.” You mean that this article will have to be removed and clarified a month later? For what reason? If the article had incorrectly stated that a meeting had already taken place – then they can clarify it. But there is nothing in that article that needs to be clarified. The only reason they did it is because they are obviously trying to cover for Obama. It is irresponsible and unethical journalism.

    As far as the Blagojevich scandal having nothing to do with Obama: that’s what Obama’s people are hoping. But then why is Axelrod now changing his story about Obama and Blagojevich meeting to discuss the Senate seat? Why is the administration saying they never spoke to Blago about it? That’s obviously a lie. What we are seeing now is only the beginning. If you think Obama worked so closely with Blago and Reszko for so many years, and rose to the top of the Chicago political landscape, and did it with his hands clean – you are incredibly naive.

  215. I listened to the show last night before going to bed. Great show and I’ll definitely tune in on January 7th!

  216. the person i feel most bad for is Jesse Jackson Jr. I could be wrong but their was a sensarity, there obama has never once displayed. I was also pretty impressed with the fact that he had only missed 2 votes in the House and he was on obama’s very involved in obama’s camapaign. Now that’ swhat you call commitment

  217. It’s refreshing that for once the media can’t airbrush O out, since there are so many pictures of Blog & O smiling next to one another. I don’t remember which network – CNN or MSNBC – had a series of them. They are both grinning, looking pleased with themselves.

  218. […] The President-elect has not yet been exonerated (by bostonboomer at The Confluence) It certainly sounds like Blagojevich thought that President-elect Obama owed him some favors. I’m not suggesting that Obama was stupid enough to talk to Blagojevich on the telephone, but, according to [a] TV news report…, he did have a private meeting with the Governor on November 5 to discuss his replacement… But Obama told the Chicago Tribune … that he had never talked about his replacement with Blagojevich. And despite what the media keeps trying to tell us, Patrick Fitzgerald has not “exonerated” Barack Obama yet. Here is what he said: “‘I’m not going to speak for what the President elect was aware of,’ he said. ‘We make no allegations that he’s aware of anything and that’s as simply as I can put it.’…” I’m sorry, but that is not a clear exoneration of the President elect. That is a non-denial denial. Unfortunately, this is probably going to be a repeat of Whitewater–but this time with real crime and corruption. […]

  219. […] was involved. He has asked people who know more to come forward. The investigation continues.—CaroThe President-elect has not yet been exonerated (by bostonboomer at The Confluence)It certainly sounds like Blagojevich thought that […]

  220. […] The President-elect has not yet been exonerated According to Peter Flaherty, President of an ethics group, the National Legal and Policy Center, Obama cannot distance […] […]

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