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The Domestic and The Foreign Presidents

The Domestic and The Foreign Presidents

So, Obama introduces his foreign policy team this morning and the New York Times wastes no time spinning it as “Obama is the boss of Hill”.  Sure.  Whatever.

Campaigning is not the same as governing, guys.  And Obama’s campaign was the type that would make most employees run for cover: bullying, autocratic, arrogant, misogynistic and cheating.  It’s a good way to get to the top, if that’s your only goal.  But it’s quite a different story when you get there.  The Bully Boss leads to quite a bit of turnover, which tends to not look so good.  And we have seen what 8 years of autocratic rule can do to a government.  So, the NYTimes can kiss our asses on the new narrative.  If Obama is as smart as everyone says he is, he will not lord it over anyone.  He won’t be lording it over Hillary in any case.  She serves at the pleasure of the American people and Barack Obama better never forget it.

From the article on the announcement comes former 2 term preseident Bill Clinton’s recommendation of Hillary Clinton as Secretary of State:

As an American, I am thankful that President-elect Barack Obama has asked Hillary to be Secretary of State and that she has accepted. As her husband, I am deeply proud.

She is the right person for the job of helping to restore America’s image abroad, end the war in Iraq, advance peace and increase our security, by building a future for our children with more partners and fewer adversaries, one of shared responsibilities and opportunities.

She has already earned the respect of foreign leaders and diplomats through her work to promote human rights and the empowerment of women through access to education, healthcare and economic opportunity. And Americans know, from her leadership in the Senate on national security, that she will always put the security, values and the interests of our people first.

In her service to the people of New York and our nation, Hillary has demonstrated the knowledge, passion, resilience, and capacity to learn that our country needs at this critical time. She loves being a Senator from New York, but as she has in all the thirty-seven years I’ve known her, she answered the call to serve. I commend President-Elect Obama for asking her to be a part of a great national security team. America will be well-served.

Very Classy, Bill.   Now, with Biden’s help, Hillary should hit the ground running.

126 Responses

  1. Good Old Bubba! Flaws and all he still shows his ability to say it like it is.

  2. Thanks for this update, RD!

    What happened to the madamab post? Will it be coming back later?

  3. bb: She pulled it and said she would repost in 2 hours.

  4. what happened to the previous post?
    That and all the comments are gone.

    We finally have someone with a brain and who loves the country in this office.
    She would have been better as president but this country was not adult enough to deal with an intelligent women at the top.

    Every time I see a picture of backtrack my stomach turns.
    I will never understand how when this country could of had the best, It picked the worse.



  5. Thanks, PJ!

    For people who want to sign the petition, here it is again:


  6. anybody else sniffling after reading Bill’s words? Could bawl my eyes out right about now!

  7. Oh, and helenk – the other post will be back, with comments, in two hours.

  8. Whoops! Sorry about that madamab. Actually, I have to be going now. I can pull this one if you prefer..

  9. madamab: Petition signed. Hopefully he considers.

  10. That big KABOOM you heard was Chris Matthews and Keith Olbermann’s heads exploding.

    I must say I’m skeptical of this whole thing, but it’s fun to see Bill Richardson, Susan Rice, and Greg Craig get shoved aside by the HRC Express.

    Somebody was talking about numerology and that according to their numerologist good times would start December 1st? We shall see…

  11. “So the NYTimes can kiss our asses on the new narrative.”

    Yeah, pucker-up, NYT. (_ (_ (Hee-hee, learned that here yesterday!)

    The 3am phone call skit on SNL is looking a lot less like satire, now.

  12. nobody reads the NYT except a few of us fancy pants elitists, so it really doesn’t matter what they say.

  13. Don’t pull the post RD. I was able to click the link to the petition and sign it. The other one is a good follow-up to this one.

  14. RD – Nah, don’t worry. It’s scheduled for later.

  15. Hey, it’s my birthday today for anyone who wants to take note of it. Hint hint….

  16. I say madamab and RD leave both posts up (they’re sufficiently different), but close comments in one of them so people are not running around.

  17. Nailed, again.

    It won’t be balm because it leaves that aftertaste.

    ps: RD, m’dowdy had something for you to see — remember when we were talking about the press — ?

    when you get a chance….


    that is true, and also what has happened to the American Newspaper — behind the scenes. Very sad.


  18. {{BostonBoomer}} — Happy Birthday!!

    ♡ ♧ ♡ ♧♡ ♧♡ ♧
    (hearts and flowers)

  19. The only upside is watching the heads explode. Sigh. Have I mentioned that I dislike our president elect very, very much?

  20. bb, happy birthday!!!!

  21. Happy birthday bostonboomer!!

    I hope everyone had a great Thanksgiving — I had 5 wonderful days in NOLA with family — and of course didn’t pack anything appropriate for the 75 degree weather! Another trip borrowing clothes from mom again. lol

  22. Happy birthday to you-uuuuu Happy Birthday to you-uuuuuu, Happy Birthday dear BostonBoomer, Happy Birthday to you-uuuuuu- and many more!

  23. Katiebird — those are hearts and shamrocks, not flowers. lol (but they are cute)

  24. Every time I see a picture of backtrack my stomach turns.

    I can not stand that smirk. Nor that voice.
    I’m avoiding him on tv as much as I avoid W. Ugh.

  25. Happy Birthday, BB!

    That’s a dozen roses.

  26. C Waltz
    Thank you for telling me about the poem The Weaver.
    I found it and saved it to my favorites



  27. But-but-but ! Clinton’s appointment shows that Obama doesn’t have CDS. (or so says BTD).

    I know I keep repeating this. I just can’t get over the level of hubris it takes to even think such a thing after the primary.

  28. angienc, find me a flower and I’ll edit it in!

    Actually they are officially WHITE CLUB SUIT but, for me they symbolize flowers.

  29. so is that expression on his face his idea of looking presidential? To me it seems both goofy and arrogant, not an easy combination to pull off.

  30. Happy Birthday bostonboomer! Hope your day is extra special.

    Glad to hear you’re a December baby too. I hit another decade on Wednesday (oh bother).

  31. katiebird — my brother & I called clubs “puppy dog feet” when we were little — I still slip up sometimes when I’m playing cards & call them “puppy dog feet” LOL

  32. Happy birthday to you, BB!!! May it be filled with joy, whoop-ass, good food, friends, family and/or whatever the heck suits your fancy and fluffs your fuffle. xo LB

    Hillary gave a hefty healthy acceptance speech, and Obie heaped on her praises, and said nanny nanny boo boo to the press who wanted to make hay with their election competition. I say, good on you, mofo.

  33. Did anyone seriously think “Hillary’s boss” would not be a narrative? That’s one of the reasons why I didn’t want her to accept the offer. No matter what Hillary does at State, history will be written to spin it as Obama’s insight in appointing her. If its a good thing. Anything bad will be Hillary’s “autonomy”.

    And I loathe the idea of Axelrod and company laughing at their mocking of Hillary’s foreign policy experience as nothing more than tea time, while appointing her to State, the top FP position. Obama’s comment is now completely forgotten in the broad public consciousness.

  34. Puppy-dog-Feet!! I love that!

  35. badtothebone, he’s such a poser and his “deep and thoughtful” look is one of his sillier ones.

  36. Thanks everyone for the birthday wishes and roses!

    Its good to have you back Angie. I’m glad NOLA was nice. We’ve had terrible weather here except for T-day, but right now it looks like the sun is trying to come out. It’s 55 here, which is also nice as long as the sun stays out.

  37. votermom, me too. I don’t even turn on the tv in the morning anymore because I don’t want to risk seeing his stupid mug and/or some idiotic fluff piece about the his wonderfulness.

  38. gxm,

    Thanks for the hint. I will try to remember that, but remind us again OK? I’m 61 today, one year from social security eligibility. Let’s hope I make it before Obama messes with SS.

  39. I’m pretty sure that both Hillary and Obama know how the game of politics is played and aren’t very concerned with revenge and who said what during the race. Guess I’m an optimist, but I think most of their energy is focused on the economy and 2 wars.

  40. bb – Haaaappppy Biiiiiirthday to Yoooooouuuuu!

    (hits high C, glass shatters, slinks away in mortification)

    Seriously – have a wonderful birthday. I wish you lots and lots of yummy chocolate with zero calories in it!


  41. Hey!!!

    Happy birthday to you, Happy birthday to you, Happy birthday dear BB, happy birthday to you!!!!


    Hillary is actually a rock star in foreign countries – she’ll be great in this role and the guys resented her in the Senate, so I really think we will gain significantly from her in this role vs. in the Senate. I know that if I lived in NY I’d be annoyed at losing her but if we can get Carolyn Maloney in there it will help a great deal (certainly not the same but…)

    Madam – I tried to sign the petition but I guess I must have already signed it because I got a message that someone already signed from this computer. (I’m the only one who uses it)

  42. Happy birthday, bb, and many happy returns!!

  43. It’s really disturbing to know that a qualified person who loves this country has to work under the thumb of a fraud who doesnt love this country.

  44. Oh! Thanks for signing, Joanelle! I have blocked duplicate signatures on the petition.


    Sorry to repeat, but hey, there’s only one official birthday song. LOL!

  45. Has HRCs campaign debt been paid off as part of the deal? It doesn’t make sense to have a Sos who has a large debt … I think it must have been paid.

  46. You are welcome Helen. It was and remains my favorite poem.

  47. Thank you!!!

    You guys are making me start to feel like today is my birthday. I wasn’t really feeling like it before.

  48. RD — you’re brilliant !!!

    I loved seeing Sarah Palin stump in GA today — huge crowds !!! I am glad the GOP is pulling her out to help others.

  49. 4 more years of hating the goofy and arrogant smirk of someone I didn’t vote for. He could make Clinton his co president and it still won’t change my opinion of bim at this point. He’s a cheat and a liar. Both of those traits will never be acceptable to me, no matter who he surrounds himself with.

  50. Simo – Too bad she’s stumping for that worthless jackoff, Saxby Chambliss.

    Poor Sarah and Hillary. If they want to become powerful members of our society, they have to kiss some pretty ugly frogs, don’t they?!

  51. Here’s Hillary’s acceptance speech from youtube:
    She sounds so presidential- makes BO look bad with little effort.
    I’m happy for her if this is what she wants.
    And I’m happy to hear BO had to defend his picking her and Gates to the press, who were interested in stirring up trouble.Too bad they have to use Hillary to
    ask him critical questions- but he HAD to DEFEND her.

  52. vbonnaire, sad article. Outsourcing will be the death of this country.

  53. Happy Birthday, Bostonboomer! I thought you might be a Sag! Me, too – mine’s upcoming. Have a wonderful day and a year filled with all you desire.

  54. Boston — happy birthday !!!! Do what I do on my birthday — whatever I WANT TO DO !!! This is your day — you’re in charge.

  55. Smirking away, looking inexperienced a silly boy. I wonder
    if he will always look like he’s pretending to be pres.

  56. CWaltz – Word! He is so far from Presidential it’s ridiculous.

    The new Obot narrative appears to be that HRC’s appointment proves Obama doesn’t hate women or have CDS.

    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! No, it just proves that Hillary is a far better negotiator than this thug from Chicago. But hey, we knew that already.

    Need a refresher on just how Obama feels about women, bots? Here ya go.

  57. Remember Pumas,

    Kindly remind every Obot you can – as often as you can – that this might as well be a



  58. The SisterHood of the Traveling Pantsuit rides again woohooo
    It felt so wonderful to see her up there outshining everyone , made me cry …

    and HAPPY BIRTHDAY BB 🙂 sending much love and many hugs

  59. Vbonnaire – there may be some hope yet – three legislators in NJ have sponsored a bill that the State cannot do business with or invest in companies that “overseas” business as they feel it is not right for NJ citizens money to be invested in foreign countries when it is so badly needed here.

    My word for O is arrogant – he always seems to have that arrogant smirk on his face.

  60. BB I don’t have your email.

    Hopefully spamy will let me post this as is


  61. Happy Birthday, Bostonboomer!! And the best for the next year!

    Has anyone noticed that Susan Rice has been picked as ambassador to the UN: a woman so unprofessional that she called Senator Clinton “a monster”. Of course, Senator Clinton is in line for Secretary of State.

    I wonder how that is going to work.


  62. I just went downstairs to pull lunch together. It’s something about my entrance to the room that “he” comes on, so I did an about face and returned to my office. I’m waiting a few more minutes before I have to pass by the television again.

    Meanwhile, I signed the petition urging that Hillary’s successor be a woman, noting that American women had been treated very badly in recent months, and urged the NY Governor to continue apace with appointments to equitably represent them.

  63. He isn’t arrogant- He’s O-rrogant. Arrogant is for mere mortals, we all know he’s so much more(tongue firmly in cheek).

  64. It should be fun to try and watch Obama corral her. If I were a betting woman, I’d bet that ain’t gonna happen.

    By the way, chicago, I agree, he IS an idiot.

  65. Chicago Style – How’s that whole “Change” thing working out for you?


  66. djmm:

    It was Samantha Power who called Hillary a “monster”

    Not Susan Rice

  67. csp:

    When the inexperienced man is promoted over the better qualified woman, she ends up doing the important work for him anyway.

    Same old, same old

  68. Susan Rice is the one who mocked Hillary saying she didn’t know anything about foreign policy just because she was married to the President.

  69. What I truly enjoyed was the press conference, where PE Obama was questioned as to why he would appoint someone whose credentials he so belittled, and he mumbled something to the effect that he hoped that they were “just having fun” and somethinf else to the effect that they were not planning to hold him to statements made during the campaign. Jeebus…………………………………..

  70. Change- synonym for pulling all the Clinton cabinet in because you are bereft of any real ideas and had no clue what to do once actually elected by an electorate that seems to love being punk’d.

  71. The thought of Obama as Commander in Chief makes me nauseous. Hopefully the third term of a Bill Clinton presidency is the best I can hope for. It should have been HRC but instead we have another Know Nothing at the helm.

    One commentator just opined that those Obots are bound to be disappointed with Obama’s foreign policy decisions and they may just be a continuation at least of the Bush agenda.

    Hate to say “I told you so” but I did anyway.

  72. HAPPY HAPPY B-DAY BB & GXM!!!!!!
    I’m en routehome from a trip to Miami to see a recntly divorced & hurting friend. No Internet for days!?! I lurked via iPhone when I could. Missed you guys. In airport now pecking this out on phone. Caught HRC while on treadmill this a.m. Started crying right away again. First time I listened to the pretend Pres in months. It’s the strangest phenomenon: I cannot focus on what he says–never could. It’s all so vague and derivative. Hill was strong, as always & I feel safer knowing she is on watch, but as CW said, I will not, cannot feel differently about him. When I mention any of his unethical tactics, others always say: That’s just politics, they ALL do it! So, does violating the fundamentals of our Democracy qualify as “just politics” for Nixon, Bush & Cheney too? HRC will kick ass in whatever she does, but I hate seeing her standing next to him. I just will never get over this…
    Plane boarding, catch ya all later. Question: how does the state department function separately from the. Ational security adviso & the Pentagon?

  73. We made the list at Memeorandum!!

  74. UNC and “immediate withdrawal” have been lost in his election. Whatever claim to “change” he promised was a mere fallacy to cut himself out of the herd as a “different politician”. All in all, we can expect more of the same. The first clue was FISA. Hope the Obots are well stocked with over the counter medicine to combat those ulcers and migraines that are bound to occur.

  75. Susan Rice had some not so very nice things to say about Hillary but she wasn’t the one to call her a monster … that was Samantha Powers..

    Susans downfall for years is that she hears no ones opinion but her own…
    She not really a good choice for the U.N. , but hey bo is passing out the plums

  76. sorry for stupid phone typos!

  77. myiq2xu,

    I couldn’t find us on Memeorandum. Where?

  78. fif – I can’t focus on what he says either! It’s always been the case with him. Hillary, OTOH, is riveting.

    PJ – Obama actually said a variant of “Oceans no longer protect us” today. I almost threw up! Dumbest statement EVER by Bush, and Obama has to repeat it?

    Jeebus help us all.

  79. Not planning on holding him to the statements he made during the campaign………….Yeah, because we all know that people should not be held accountable for what they say. I mean lying and mischarecterizing about someone is such a LITTLE thing. I mean geez, if he had told the TRUTH then he would have lost and then we couldn’t herald in the second Clinton administration……oh wait……I mean CHANGE. LOL

    I wonder when he is going to let them in on the liuttle secret that when he says that he shouldn’t be held to what he said on the campaign trail that was not just the statements he made about Clinton but health care and a whole host of issues.

    Congratulations Obots on voting on your next American Idol. He didn’t mean a word but boy, can he carry a tune.

  80. The Obama advsors that bad-mouthed Hillary during the campaign weren’t freelancing. They were following instructions, acting a “surrogates” so Obama could have deniability if it backfired.

    Power screwed up by going on the record so she had to ride under the bus for a while. I always figured she would be back if Obama won.

  81. Washington Post: “It hurts to be John Kerry today”


    “The Massachusetts senator had once been considered the frontrunner to be Obama’s secretary of state. Then suddenly he wasn’t, when Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton’s (D-N.Y.) name surprisingly surfaced for the job. In his statement, Kerry said, “As Secretary of State, my friend and colleague Hillary Clinton will bring her years of experience and her remarkable intellect to the effort to restore our alliances and advance the President’s agenda in the world.”

    Instead of traveling the globe and crafting U.S. foreign policy, Kerry will get the consolation prize of serving as chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, which has jurisdiction over confirming Clinton and the rest of the national security team.”

  82. I held my tongue on Iraq…..this go round I ain’t holding back on the I told you sos.

  83. David E. Sanger / New York Times:
    A Handpicked Team for a Sweeping Shift in Foreign Policy
    Link Search: Technorati, Google, IceRocket, and Ask
    +Discussion: Matthew Yglesias, The Politico, Alan Colmes’ Liberaland, Crooks and Liars, Associated Press, Los Angeles Times, Newshoggers.com, ATTACKERMAN, The Caucus, The Confluence, Emptywheel, The Atlanticist, Think Progress, Commentary, TPM Election Central, Washington Monthly, The Jed Report, marbury, Outside The Beltway, Taylor Marsh, Macsmind, Kevin Drum, The Swamp, Obsidian Wings and MSNBC

    It’s right before the pink on the left where it says “subscribe” …..

  84. David E. Sanger / New York Times:
    A Handpicked Team for a Sweeping Shift in Foreign Policy
    Link Search: Technorati, Google, IceRocket, and Ask
    +Discussion: Matthew Yglesias, The Politico, Alan Colmes’ Liberaland, Crooks and Liars, Associated Press, Newshoggers.com, Los Angeles Times, ATTACKERMAN, The Caucus, The Confluence, Emptywheel, The Atlanticist, Think Progress, Commentary, Washington Monthly, TPM Election Central, The Jed Report, marbury, Outside The Beltway, Taylor Marsh, Macsmind, Kevin Drum, The Swamp, Obsidian Wings and MSNBC

  85. Briana:


  86. madamab,

    “Oceans no longer protect us.”

    That has to be one of the silliest things Dubya ever said. You’d think at least Obama would know about the American Revolution. I wonder how they think the British soldiers got here?

  87. cool!

  88. Bet that Judas, Kerry, and John Edwards are crying in their beer today. At least I hope so. And that Bob Byrd is having difficulty remembering where his office is located. These are the brain drains who actively backed The One when HIllary was still cleaning up the votes.

    I will remain silent on Nasty Nasty, Harry and Donna B since I am about to have lunch and just the mention of their names makes me ill.

    If this is the “change” so vaunted and wished for, then Madonna is indeed a “virgin”.

  89. bb, couldn’t happen to a nicer guy! I’m laughing my a$$ off and loving it.

  90. The oceans didn’t protect us during the War of 1812, either.

  91. BB – KerryFreude!!! LOLOLOLOLOLOL

    Richly, richly deserved!!!

    CWaltz – you held your tongue on Iraq? Wow! Such restraint! Not me, boy. I was out there screaming my head off.

    Quelle surprise.


  92. her leadership in the Senate on national security

    You’re joking, right?

    This is horrible. Craven. And disgusting. It means Hillary held off on her knowledge of who and what Obama was in exchange for a position. Who made her do that, and why did she agree to it – we’ll never know I am sure, but this is a sad and terrible day. For her.

  93. Silly obots when will they learn that it isn’t what a politician says……it’s what he does or doesn’t do.

    Cue the clueless 30% of the left. It’s their turn to be apologists and excusemakers.

  94. Obama: “I never had an original thought in my head but it sure looks good on commemorative coins!”

  95. Happy birthday BB! You’ve just completed the first half of your life, now the fun part starts.


    Are you serious?
    You’re happy to see ANYBODY campaign for that motherfucking, c*@ksucking fuck Saxby Chambliss? The guy who equated Max Cleland, a triple amputee Vietnam vet to Osama Bin Laden? WTF?

    All my sympathies for Sarah are pretty much gone right there.

  96. Just a little inconsistency, I should think, between the argument that, on the one hand, Obama was not responsible for the statements his own campaign was putting out, and the notion that somehow Obama can exert effective control over all the people underneath him when he governs.

    Magically, I suppose, he will be able to make all parts of the government listen to his “vision”, and implement it perfectly, when he couldn’t even control the message of his own campaign, and make it conform to his supposed “vision” of what he represented?

  97. It is not the oceans we have to worry about so much as what havoc can be done just through cyberspace alone. Right now we are watching our economy implode which is what bin Laden had predicted would be the downfall of the US without any further terrorist attacks.

    Chalk him up to another who is more than likely saying “I told you so”.

  98. Happy Birthday, bostonboomer! I hope today brings you all you desire.

    Dumb, Asian-American newsbot on CNN didn’t like it when Carl Bernstein (!) refused to take her Hillary trashing bait. Betty something was actually pouting.
    It”s a strange day when Carl Bernstein is on TV defending our Hillary.

  99. bb, plural – OMG, no kidding! Did they protect us during Pearl Harbor too?

    WTF, WTF. When Bush said that, I just had a freaking conniption because every corp media outlet acted like he was Winston Churchill in his wisdom.

    Now Obama says the same f*cking thing!

    Change, my ass.

  100. Oceans didn’t protect the Native Americans from Europeans either….

  101. MABlue: Saxby was a college classmate, and he wasn’t particularly well-beloved.

  102. frankly0 – Extra points for using Obama’s favorite cringe-inducing catchphrase, “the notion that…”, in your excellent comment.


  103. I was downright magnamonious on Iraq………I mean geez, we had inspectors on the ground……….if we knew where the flippin’ WMDs were why didn’t we use them to secure them? Only an absolute putz would risk lives when he had the means to secure the weapons and build a coalition by just letting the inspectors do their job——Oh wait, that’s what we HAVE in office- a putz. But I didn’t say I told you so. Although I did call OReilly and tell him to knock it off back when he was maligning dissenters as “unpatriotic”.

  104. Chambliss pretty much destroyed Max Cleland, a real hero and vet when they ran against one another. Chambliss was just another rich white guy who voted for anything Bush sent his way. Campaigning for his reelection is shoddy at best but I suppose she is adding to her chits should she decide to run in 2012.

    They would campaign for Lucifer if it meant gaining a vote here or there.

  105. CHANGE!

    What you get back from the BROKEN Dollar!

    DOW DOWN TO 1500 by 2009!

    JK – maybe

  106. frankly:

    I didn’t say they were following HIS instructions

  107. Rose,

    Give me a break.

  108. Okay, again – NEW POST UP!!!

  109. frankly o

    Stop it with that logic stuff.

    We are all getting a pony!(stuffing fingers in ears so I can’t hear frankly O- lalalalalalalala I can’t hear you)

  110. I do wish I thought that Jim Martin had a real chance in red, red Georgia.
    And it would have been nice for PE Obama to go there and campaign for him.
    Like Bill did.
    Now, tell me, who only cares about himself and not about the Party?

  111. Discussions about Obama’s “documents” should be taken over to No Quarter or similar site.

  112. BB:

    I think those are Obamanationals who post about “documents” so anti-PUMA sites like Kitty’s Litter Box and ButtBurger can claim we post about that stuff.

  113. myiq,

    I was more reacting to the common arguments from Obama supporters once upon a time that the uglier things done by the Obama campaign were somehow not reflective of Obama himself (e.g., Jesse Jackson Jrs race baiting), contrasted with the current idea that Obama will be able somehow to run a tight ship when it comes to controlling his Administration.

    You can believe one of these ideas, but you can’t believe both.

    My own guess is that Obama was mostly a passive player in the uglier things said by his campaign, having no problem with them if they promoted his political position, and that he will be a passive player in the Presidency. He impresses me as being a weak personality, more than happy to sit on any laurels he might receive — and knowing implicitly he will always receive more than his share, as he has throughout his life.

    He’s never worked for a living, and I don’t see that starting now.

  114. Hillary campaigned for Barky, Sarah is campaigning for Chambliss. Sarah might need Chambliss in 4 years. I’m not holding her appearances against her.

  115. And the ocean certainly didn’t protect the Native Americans when Europeans showed up and gave them a plague. And THAT was just the beginning.

    Obama using that line only proves that his much vaunted brilliance is, well, nonexistent. As if the 57 states hadn’t been a giveaway. (sigh)

  116. I’m not going to hold much against Sarah after the despicable beating she just took. She’s still standing and for that she has my respect and admiration.

  117. Rose said: This is horrible. Craven. And disgusting. It means Hillary held off on her knowledge of who and what Obama was in exchange for a position.

    What the heck are you talking about???? She pointed out her experience (and O’s lack of it) ad infinitum during the primary. Seriously, wtf?

  118. gxm-I feel the same.

    Sarah and Hill are still standing and for that they have my respect.

  119. the oceans used to protect us?

  120. Had a few (hopefully amusing) thoughts about the presser today.

    The Small Matter of Obama’s Diminutive Team


  121. I am extremely happy with his cabinet pick. Very wise move on his part.

  122. My mistake and apologies, myiq2xu — your memory is better than mine! Susan Rice is the one who mocked Senator Clinton’s foreign policy experience while talking to Tucker Carlson — not quite as bad. Sorry for my mix up!

  123. Why don’t you join us in the active threads?

  124. myiq: you took the words right out of my mouth.

  125. HBG:

    You saw ONE PERSON claim that Obama DOESN”T LOVE this country, not “people” claiming “Obama hates America”

  126. BTW – If you’re hoping for reconciliation you came to the wrong place.

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