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I tell you, it’s a good thing nothing important is going on in America right now, because otherwise, this news would bother me just a tad.

CHICAGO (Reuters) – President-elect Barack Obama said on Thursday he would resign his U.S. Senate seat effective Sunday, which means he will not participate in next week’s post-election session that could address the ailing economy and struggling auto industry.

(snip)

Obama, who will be sworn in as president on January 20, said he would step down from his Senate seat to focus on the transition to the White House.

This would explain Team Obama’s coyness when reporters repeatedly asked whether more economic legislation would be passed by the Congress before the inauguration. For example, during the press conference which caused me to dub him “President-Elect Treebeard,” this exchange occurred:

Q Sir, there’s been some suggestion from House Democrats that the stimulus package may be in trouble, that it’s going to be a hard time getting it out of a lame-duck session.

Are you still confident that you would be able to get something done before you actually take office?

PRESIDENT-ELECT OBAMA: I want to see a stimulus package sooner rather than later. If it does not get done in the lame-duck session, it will be the first thing I get done as president of the United States.

Obviously, the President-Elect never planned on using his power as the new head of the Democratic Party in the Senate during this incredibly crucial time.  Economy, ecshmonomy! Obama’s going to be busy picking his new Cabinet and staffing all the departments that Bush filled with underqualified graduates of Liberty University. While this is, admittedly, a big job, one would think that with 450 people working on it. Obama could afford to spend a few days helping push his economic vision through Congress.

Oh well. Looks like it’s up to Mommy, er uh, Hillary, to show how it’s done, once again.

WASHINGTON – Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton urged President Bush during a Veterans Day ceremony yesterday to agree to a $300 billion economic stimulus package that might be considered by a lame-duck session of Congress next week.

New York might get $410 million in highway, bridge and flood-mitigation projects as part of a bigger infrastructure package, more money to cover Medicaid costs and extended benefits for the long-term unemployed, according to Clinton’s proposal.

Clinton said she spoke with Bush briefly and gave him a letter on the subject during the rededication of the Intrepid Sea, Air and Space Museum on Manhattan’s West Side.

Yes, unlike President-Elect Obama, Senator Clinton will be in Washington to work with her fellow Congresscritters during the lame-duck session. She will actually follow up her words with actions, just as she’s been doing for the past 35 years.

Now there is speculation that Obama will be leaning on Hillary even more in the future. Will he really choose her for Secretary of State?

There’s talk, indeed, that Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.) may now be under consideration for the post. Her office referred any questions to the Obama transition; Obama spokesman Tommy Vietor declined to comment.

The pick of the former presidential contender and Senate Armed Services Committee member would go a long way toward healing any remaining divisions within the Democratic Party after the divisive primaries. Also, Clinton has long been known for her work on international women’s issues and human rights. The former first lady could also enhance Obama’s efforts to restore U.S. standing amongst allies worldwide.

And Obama could put her in his speed-dial for a 3 a.m. phone call every morning.

As juicy an idea as this is, I give this rumor just as much credence as the “Hillary for Vice President!” rumors that were going around before Joe “Death and Destruction” Biden was picked for the VP slot instead. I mean, the woman was never even vetted, and there were still stories for months and months about how she was on the “short list.” (Once again, our media is pathetic.)

If for once the corporate media has it right, I hope Hillary says “No thanks.” As great an SOS as she would be, I do not want her to be under Obama’s thumb as part of his staff. He should not be directly in control of her political future. And, as she has shown repeatedly, her voice is much needed in the Senate. SOMEONE has got to show leadership in that august body.

It sure isn’t going to be Harry Reid, who has been notably silent regarding the economic stimulus package and its future. And now we know it won’t be soon-to-be-ex-Senator Obama either.

Sigh.

Cross-posted at Partizane

255 Responses

  1. I don’t know. I think she could get a lot of work done as SOS, should she accept the position. I wouldn’t like her being under his thumb, but she’s a wild wood elf. No one can control her, only the winds and the rains. All though I worry that it’s just a way for him to have her in his cabinet a couple of years so he can dump her and then ruin her political career.
    It’s funny, because the other night I was thinking about Palin’s interview and how if she runs in 2012 and wins, Hillary could be her SOS. I would like THAT.
    Then I woke up this morning to Yahoo News and these “rumors”. Who knew???

  2. […] at Partizane and The Confluence Possibly related posts: (automatically generated)Can’t he come up with any ideas of his […]

  3. LI – hmmm, maybe you’re psychic!

    🙂

  4. Nagahappen though she deserves. Fuck that, she deserves to be President.

    That’s it, I’m going back to overrated movies.

    Btw, lolcats make my forever.

  5. Regency – glad to be of service!

  6. LI: hey you!

    Madamab: You’ve yet to fail me. Keep me entertained and informed!

  7. I have heard the media say that Obama must at all costs avoid being involved in or in any way associated with Bush’s financial crisis. Apparently even if this means not dealing with it in time.

  8. {{{Regency}}}

  9. Barack won’t be dealing with anything. It will simply be a sad product of the Bush Admin that just can’t be resolved so he’ll point his finger backwards for 4 years, then claim “dimes and nickels” again.

  10. {{{Madamab}}}

  11. plural – I have a feeling that strategy is part of his thinking, but I also think it’s just the way he is. Everything happens at Obama’s pace. I just don’t think he cares about anything but his own career.

  12. Good Gawd Madamab,

    Obama has soooo much harder stuff to do now like finding a school for his daughters and finding a dawg! You sure need to get your priorities in order.

    YUMMMMMM – flavor of the day is cherry – YUMMMMMM

  13. I’m going o be on the Lolcats website forever now. I just kicked the habit of the Fail blog but now I’m back.

  14. I’d say send them to Sidwell Friends but they don’t deserve to have to see the two of them for every parent teacher conference.

  15. FLVoter – LOL!

    I wonder if he will need 450 people to make that decision for him as well!

  16. Glad to see you again Regency!!!

    Madamab, I think Obama, if he does want to pick my wife as his SOS, he’ll want to use her position as a scapegoat or to destroy her career. That is what worries me. But the thing is, she would be an amazing SOS. And maybe she could use the position to her advantage. Who knows, I am sick of secind guessing, and anyway, BO has always had a mommy crush on her anyway.

    However, I still maintain that she belongs in the oval office.

  17. LI – Um, that last story was a bit much….I’m going to have to delete it. Sorry!!!

  18. Hillary Clinton: Well, fine. But don’t hold me accountable for all of the pervert-penned lesbian fanfiction that’s going to come out of this.

    See, she sees these things coming. And I’m not a pervert. I’m a creative-type.

    “Oh Hillary, baby, what could he possibly say about me?”

    He calls her baby and I’ll erupt into a ftt of sexual jealousy on national tv, thus ending my dream of totally being her intern. If Bill needs comfort…You know I’m here for you, Original Bubba!

  19. Are the Obama daughters still entertaining thoughts of appearing on Hannah Montana? It wouldn’t surprise me. We all know that Hannah Montana’s ultimate plan is world dominance. Everywhere I look, I see her. She is an epidemic, I swear, the Hannah Montana purse, fleece pullover, and beach towels I got were a form of mind manipulation. It is so akin to Obie, no wonder his daughters are to appear on her show.

  20. Ooops, sorry Mad. Catch my reply, would ya!

  21. I heard the reason that both Barack Obama and Joe Biden are re-signing from Congress early is because it gives their replacements seniority over all the other first time congressional elects that don’t start until next term.

    So if they handpick their own people these people will also have seniority over all the other first timers. Interesting strategy. um, there were some first timers elected, I presume?

    http://www.DailyPUMA.com

    Is someone using the Daily PUMA to harrass bloggers for a having a similar topic as someone else? Maybe that user needs a PUMA flogging.

  22. LI – I hear the same thing from my friends who are mothers. I also hear the girl can’t sing worth beans!

  23. High School Musical has finally surrendered its claim on the minds of children everywhere. Now Hannah will indeed reign supreme. Oh God save the children.

  24. Oops, I guess it’s resigning. I’m usually using the word re-signing.

  25. madamab, on November 14th, 2008 at 4:30 pm Said:

    LI – Um, that last story was a bit much….I’m going to have to delete it. Sorry!!!

    No worries, Madamab. At least I got in on the air waves for Regency to see.

    Regency, on November 14th, 2008 at 4:32 pm Said:

    Hillary Clinton: Well, fine. But don’t hold me accountable for all of the pervert-penned lesbian fanfiction that’s going to come out of this.

    See, she sees these things coming. And I’m not a pervert. I’m a creative-type.

    “Oh Hillary, baby, what could he possibly say about me?”

    He calls her baby and I’ll erupt into a ftt of sexual jealousy on national tv, thus ending my dream of totally being her intern. If Bill needs comfort…You know I’m here for you, Original Bubba!

    Regency, did you know that Sarah Palin called Hillary yesterday (or was it today?)

    Wonder what they talked about.

  26. Nah, Regency, your reply is fine. It was the ending that was a little over-the-top.

    😉

  27. Regency, did you know that Sarah Palin called Hillary yesterday (or was it today?)

    Wonder what they talked about.

    Motherhood, healthcare, shoes, mortgage crisis, foreign policy, lipstick, taxes, the mortgage meltdown, and the benefits of pantsuits v. skirtsuits. Oh, and special needs children.

  28. Mad: Gotcha.

  29. littleissi, I agree. Obama will only work to further destroy Hillary. He’s a vindictive little sh!t. She needs to stay just out of his reach.

  30. sorry about the typo in your name littleisis!

  31. Alessandro – There are definitely some first-timers. I am hoping for Al Franken still. I think he would do a great job in the Senate – he is definitely a Clinton Dem.

  32. madamab, on November 14th, 2008 at 4:34 pm Said:

    LI – I hear the same thing from my friends who are mothers. I also hear the girl can’t sing worth beans!

    She is mediocre at singing. I know, I actually CAN sing. I was in Chamber Ensamble in school. I achieved a “1”, the best rating, on my performance of “Whe-ere you walk”, the best rating, during solo and ensemble and my midget Choir Director, Mrs. Herchman told me I had the potential for stardom.

    But where are my record deals? No where. Because I have only rugged Applachian musical talent in my blood.

    Hannah Montana acheived her success through nepetism. But where am I? WHERE AM I???

    I am here. My talents wasting away. While a fifteen year old girl who can’t sing invades I and my friends midnight hang out of the 24 hour Wal Mart super center, her smiling face sneering at me on all of her chapsticks and girls boots…

    Where is the justice?

  33. littleisis – Think how I feel – I’m an opera singer!

    LOL!!!

  34. What I meant to say was,

    “Obama is my God. Praise Him! Praise Him 4-Ever!!!111!!!”

  35. Regency, on November 14th, 2008 at 4:36 pm Said:

    Regency, did you know that Sarah Palin called Hillary yesterday (or was it today?)

    Wonder what they talked about.

    Motherhood, healthcare, shoes, mortgage crisis, foreign policy, lipstick, taxes, the mortgage meltdown, and the benefits of pantsuits v. skirtsuits. Oh, and special needs children.

    They must have also compared notes on Big Dawg Candy and the Snow Machine Hunk.

    That Piper Palin is just adorable.

    Piper Palin 2056!!!

  36. gxm17, on November 14th, 2008 at 4:38 pm Said:

    sorry about the typo in your name littleisis.

    It’s okay.

    Madamab, you are an opera singer???

  37. Yes, LI! I even have a part-time job singing here in NYC. Not bad, but not enough to pay teh billz.

    Sigh. 😉

  38. Jon-

    You clearly are a silly, humorless man that does not understand irony or satire.

    Of course I do not believe Hannah Montana is trying to take over the world.

    Else, why would her fleece blanket be so comfy???

  39. madamab, on November 14th, 2008 at 4:47 pm Said:

    Yes, LI! I even have a part-time job singing here in NYC. Not bad, but not enough to pay teh billz.

    Sigh. 😉

    Well Madamab, we gifted gals are just going to have to sing our duets on the confleunce then.

    I bet your voice is beautiful.

  40. Piper Palin/Obama Daughter 2046!

  41. littleisis, on November 14th, 2008 at 4:43 pm Said: They must have also compared notes on Big Dawg Candy and the Snow Machine Hunk.

    That Piper Palin is just adorable.

    Piper Palin 2056!!!

    Yup. Bill and Todd are totally clandestinely snow machine racing across the snowy plains of Alaska. Of course, Hill and Sarah are discussing the best way to make sure this country is ready to help lil P Palin reach her god-given potential when it’s time. Chelsea’s already on her way and it ain’t too late for the others. But for the wee pied one, charisma comes natural.

  42. what is that at 4:43 and 4:49????

  43. Hillary was seen getting on a plane for Chicago.

    The O-one is supposed to have meetings scheduled with HIllary and then McCain.

  44. With the advent of music videos and the technology that made live lip synching so darn easy, there really aren’t that many real singers any more, at least not in pop music. JMHO of course.

  45. Joanelle – Creative editing.

    😉

  46. Yup. Bill and Todd are totally clandestinely snow machine racing across the snowy plains of Alaska. Of course, Hill and Sarah are discussing the best way to make sure this country is ready to help lil P Palin reach her god-given potential when it’s time. Chelsea’s already on her way and it ain’t too late for the others. But for the wee pied one, charisma comes natural.

    Big Dawg expressed great admiration for The Snow Machine Hunk’s racing abilities. I’m sure there will also be wife swapping involved.

  47. Obie is now talking to all the people who were way more qualified for his job than him. The fact that he called Mac is exactly why I gave no credene to the whole Hillary as anything business. He needs their brains now.

  48. Or rather, Husband swapping.

  49. madamab – ahhhh 😉

  50. gxm17 – I totally agree – very few people out there can sing anymore.

    Kelly Clarkson is very talented.

  51. If anybody catches Regency- a big fat Happy Birthday from me!

  52. PMM – Thank you!

  53. Where are the Women? To President-Elect Obama from the National Council for Research on Women

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/linda-basch/where-are-the-women-to-pr_b_143852.html

  54. Regency, on November 14th, 2008 at 4:55 pm Said:

    Obie is now talking to all the people who were way more qualified for his job than him. The fact that he called Mac is exactly why I gave no credene to the whole Hillary as anything business. He needs their brains now.

    That is what really annoys me.
    I am caught up on all my news: including Mitt Romney news. He is still entertaining the thought of a 2012 run, though now he has to contend with the Palin factor. I can feel a Romney smear job coming on.
    Goddess, so help me if I have to live through four years of Obama and then four years of Romney. There will not be a country left. All good leadership will be squandered and we will have failed.

    In more news: all the creepy old Republican Governors are also jealous of Sarah because they and their boring selves are being ignored and Sarah is now the new shining, spa treated face of the Republican Party.

  55. Kelly Clarkson is remarkable, especially when she shed that pop princess mold AI tried to put her in.

  56. Regency, I saw on your LJ that you will be having your b-day tomorrow. I hope you do something special for yourself.

  57. petal – Yes, Obama refused PUMAs when they asked for gender equity in the Cabinet.

    McCain agreed to it.

    Sigh.

  58. Regency – Happy Almost Birthday!

  59. Romney’s gonna have a harder time with the way they’re trying to scapegoat the Mormon church with the passage of Prop 8. Yes they were a part of the problem but they weren’t the unexpected part

  60. Mccain was a man of his word. He paid his female staffers, and there were many of them, equally.
    Obama only paid his girly staffers .83$ to the dollar of his male staffers.
    And to think, Feminist Establishment backed this guy.

  61. LI – That’s why the Feminist Establishment has no credibility with me anymore…

  62. Thanks Lil I and Mad!

    Me and some high school buds are having a custody party to commisserate about how crappy our absentee dads are. We were supposed to do that some weeks ago but life intervened, so now we’re doing it on my birthday. And yes, most of them like Hillary so that’ll be more pleasant.

  63. I will take my leave now. I’m going out with the old lady (my bff).
    Be back tomorrow. Happy almost b-day Regency!!!

  64. Have fun, Isis.

    For my part, I need a nap. I’m exhausted with my POS. Pre-Obie Syndrome

  65. Bye LI!

    POS…NewHampster calls it PESD – Post-Election Shock Disorder.

  66. I agree MadamB:

    Obama is first and formost:

    GRAMMA is in the house:

    check out Yahoo’s front page,

    First blood relative we’ve seen in the NEWS, since the beginning of time in this election:

    IT’S ALL TOO WIERD!!!!——–we don’t even know who his FAMILY IS:

    God help us.

  67. Ah, I remember when I was looking forward to the inauguration of a new Democratic President and the kicking of Dubya to the curb.

    Those were the days.

  68. michelina – that is scary!

  69. I hope Hillary stays away from this particular titanic and challenges in 2012. How about a Clinton/Palin New Agenda New Unity ticket? it is a very long shot, but it might just work!

    Seriously though The only point in being there is if it is going down anytime soon, like any of the lawsuits will come off for example, but we don’t talk about that here so I can’t see why she would want to be anywhere near it.

  70. Well, the Obama stock crash continues.

    Link

  71. Eleanor – If HRC goes third-party, she can challenge in 2012. Otherwise, I don’t see it happening.

    😦

  72. madamab – I hope she starts a brand new party… wishful thinking though! 😦

  73. but if she doesn’t PUMA can! 🙂 yay!

    I wonder if Lynn Forrester de Rothschild would lead us?

  74. (that is assuming that Riverdaughter /Darragh / Will doesn’t want the gig!?)

  75. (just sorta teasing!) ok 😀

  76. I really have to sleep now. I’ll be back either late tonight or tomorrow night. Loves y’all!

  77. Just to make a comment on Hillary’s possibly being selected for SOS, I guess the thing that strikes me most is what it means both for how Obama sold himself in winning the nomination, and why his supporters supposedly came to support him.

    The argument was always — always — that Obama had the judgment in foreign policy that Hillary lacked, and that was based on Hillary’s having voted for the AUMF, whereas Obama opposed the war from the beginning. Only Obama could be a change agent because only he had the judgment to make the right call.

    And now he is considering appointing Hillary for SoS?

    I’m by now well beyond expecting any real consistency or coherency out of Obama’s supporters, but I guess I just wonder how they might even begin to justify such an action.

    What did they ever argue on his behalf that was honest, and based on a real conviction they held?

    Every time I look at their behavior — and the behavior of the fawning media — it’s really impossible to believe that the only “change” they really wanted out of Obama is the change that he undeniably gave them: the color of the skin of the President.

    Now it’s not a bad thing I don’t think to attach at least some significance to such a change. I’ll admit I voted for Deval Patrick in part because I liked the change of skin thing — and because his competitors seemed in no way I could make out better than him. (Of course he didn’t work out so great. Sigh).

    But it’s just hard to deal with amount of dishonesty there’s been over the real motivations people have had. In fact, it was the obvious dishonesty in the Obama camp that turned me off at the beginning and all the way through the end.

    They seem so much happier to frolic in bullsh*t than I have ever been. If you don’t have an internal bullsh*t detector screaming at you, it must be a far more agreeable life.

  78. Happy Birthday Regency !?!

    sleep well! love ya too!

  79. FWIW,

    it’s really impossible to believe that

    in my post above should be

    it’s really impossible not to believe that

  80. madamab, that’s the one thing you gotta hand American Idol, they make the contestants sing live.

    personally i prefer a more rock style vocal. i love Karin Dreijer Andersson of The Knife but most folks would probably run screaming from the room.

  81. madamab. I think you make some good points in your OP. I don’t think that he will follow through, it is the VP situation all over again, and I will be glad except I will also be angry, paradoxically, but I can reconcile it with this sentence – “Please stay the hell away from OSS Titanic.

  82. frankly0 yup! The whole darn candicacy of Barack Noname Oblahblah is a contradiction in terms!

  83. Jr.jr so reminds me of W! After leaving Texas in shambles, in 2000, he thumbed his fingers at them: Not my concern anymore, suckers! I’m outta here!

  84. petal, on November 14th, 2008 at 5:00 pm Said:
    Where are the Women? To President-Elect Obama from the National Council for Research on Women
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/linda-basch/where-are-the-women-to-pr_b_143852.html
    ***
    Petal,

    Some times I don’t know whether to laugh or to cry. Let me see, Obama campaigned with Odinga who signed onto Sharia Law which sent the Christians running and MO was with him too. NOW the ‘wimin’ Obama supporters are asking where are the ‘wimin’…please!

  85. Has any more news leaked on Hillary as Sec of State-please tell me it aint so!

  86. What happened to pumaalliance who used to post on here? * 🙂

  87. anyone want to join me on a new blog?

  88. At this point I won’t get emotional about whether he appoints her or not. No matter what happens, it will not be as it should, because he should not be where he is, and she is not where she should be.

    I’ve wasted too much energy and time feeling the pain of the idiotic choices that America allowed itself be manipulated into for the 3rd straight presidential election, and all I can say is —frankly (my dear), I don’t give a damn.

  89. Was there any decisions made on the way forward? Enquiring minds would love to know how to help.

  90. Her carreer is over if Hillary signs on to this admin!

  91. My faith in Hillary will be shaken!

  92. madamab
    perhaps you could show Condi the door.
    Those S&M boots she’s wearing are giving me the creeps.

  93. Well, … I ‘read’ we are getting bashed again … …. sigh .. will this never end ??? ..

    Jealousy is lousy

  94. NOOOOO! Hillary, please don’t accept an offer of SoS in the Obama administration! Please don’t!!!!

  95. Hi everybody. Lets talk about me for a second. I woke up this morning to news that my best friend’s lovey grandmother died — she was crying, I was crying –and let me tell you when your day starts off with tears, it only gets worse. All day everyone has been so mean to me (maybe I only think they were me because I started off sad, but go with it). When I walked to my car after work, I tripped on the uneven pavements, skinned the hell out of my right hand & knee & twisted my left ankle!! I’m supposed to go out tonight, but it is raining & my ankle hurts! Someone here be nice to me & cheer me up & I’m going to cry. 😦

  96. “It sure isn’t going to be Harry Reid, who has been notably silent regarding the economic stimulus package and its future. And now we know it won’t be soon-to-be-ex-Senator Obama either.”

    **************

    Harry Reid is up for re-election in Nevada in 2010, his ratings are abysmal. Democrats gained some seats here, but they do not credit Harry Reid at all for that. They credit Obama’s campaign (and ACORN).

    Also, Harry’s son Rory will probably run for governor. If Harry is a good boy and just keeps his mouth shut, and doesn’t do anything to piss everyone off, people will forget and they will both sail on to winning. We have very short memories.

  97. angie, you might just need some f*** therapy!
    Sorry you had such a crappy Friday!

  98. awwww Angie … .. darn … that all .. ‘hurts so bad’

    just think this is so beautiful in so many ways .. not particularly about what You are talking about .. .. but – pain is Pain …

  99. Oh Angie! Sorry to hear about your tough day. But, besides sounding like a really lovely lady, you also seem like a tough one. I hope you get to have some fun out tonight. If you decide not to go out, hey, you can hang out here where people appreciate you and sing Barry Manilow songs when you go missing. 🙂

  100. maybe if you ice your ankle and put it up for a while you’ll feel like going out

  101. thanks catarina! I think I’m going to bail on going out tonight too — what is the use of getting all dressed up to go out in the rain & be in a bad mood?

  102. Barry Manilow??
    I was hoping we could get myiq to sing some Barry White

  103. thanks Briana & Britannia too.
    So, you think I should go out?

  104. No Angie, stay home and be miserable with me 🙂

  105. Neosporin + Pain Relief w/ bandages, warm epsom salt soak, and oral pain relief of your choice.

  106. So, you think I should go out?

    If people will spoil you because of your twisted ankle and scrapes, why not? 😉 If they wouldn’t care, then forget it.

  107. angie, there’s something weirdly emotional about just out of the blue falling down like that-makes you cry like a kid for some reason.

    I was walking and gabbing it up with a girlfriend one day and suddenly realized she was-gone!
    I looked back and saw her sprawled on her butt.

    Not at all a weepy type, she burst into tears. A very mature mom of two, sitting on the ground crying!
    I asked her what was wrong-she answered, “what do you mean, I just fell on my ass…bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa”
    It took about 15 mins to calm her down-she was a mess.

  108. ok then I guess that is a no 😆

  109. Regency, did you know that Sarah Palin called Hillary yesterday (or was it today?)

    Wonder what they talked about.

    Motherhood, healthcare, shoes, mortgage crisis, foreign policy, lipstick, taxes, the mortgage meltdown, and the benefits of pantsuits v. skirtsuits. Oh, and special needs children.

    I bet after the small talk the conversation quickly changed to GAS. How quickly we can get it, in what quantities, what it will cost and projected market prices.
    At least I hope that’s what they spoke about.
    I did read something about research having to be done, it is proberbly not so simple.

  110. Angie, get some alcohol and a good movie, cozy p.j.s and stay in. Staying in rocks when you’ve had a shitty day and you had a pretty busy week this week, too. Have some down time!! 🙂

  111. afrocity — if you promise to stay home & be miserable with me, then I’m in for the night!

    Britannia — ah, you know how it is — they will pretend to care, but will not.

  112. Obama: Anyone one seen Bill Ayers? the last time I saw him he was eating arugula from Michelle’s crotch.

  113. I’m making a huge vat of veggie chili. It has two hours to go, though, so I’m doing the shopping list. Woo Hoo. Can you stand the excitement? I think I can get 2 dollars off paper towels!!!

  114. come and join

  115. Micki — GMTA — I already have on my snuggly pjs!

  116. Me too!! I am in my flannels p.j.s and my Phillies world series t-shirt and my sock puppet slippers. I am working it. 😛

  117. clean up 6:34 — humor-challenged poster is making fun of the mentally challenged.

  118. Obama: I was afraid there for a moment when I heard about the ACORN controversy. I thought they were referring to the size of my testicles. Imagine my relief when I heard it was about voter fraud. (yuck yuck) 😀

  119. geez, I guess I am just trying to communicate with conflucians and ask them to join me on a new Puma blog…

  120. pumaalliance
    It’s looking real nice, you have design talent.
    Maybe try to work with some stuff from Daily Puma, they have content.

  121. Angie, Sorry to hear about your bad day. Sounds like tonight would be a great night for myiq’s booze thread. Maybe he can up the drink minimum and we’ll all be feeling no pain. I wish I knew how to upload sound files. There’s a great song “Feeling No Pain” that would really set the mood.

  122. thanks petal, I appreciate that! 🙂 I am looking for editors. I am more of an ideas person, I would appreciate some help with the writing. Any conflucian / puma is welcome to join and be an editor.

  123. gxm — I think the booze thread is tomorrow night — I’m not going to be able to make it though. Have unbreakable plans tomorrow.

  124. im in with a migraine
    where do i sign up for the friday night misery club

  125. catarina — LOL!! Friday Night Misery Club — we can all sit around and moan.

    woe is me!

  126. angie, catarina

    you guys have mail. Just something I thought was interesting

  127. gxm17,

    is this it ?

    sade- feel no pain

  128. Here is a song I didn’t write, and it was in the movies before I was even born, but I dedicate it to you…my sisters… I will post one for my brothers soon, or when they join the new blog, whichever is sooner, or not… 😆 😉 in other words I will post it soonish.

  129. pumaalliance

    the video is not showing…

  130. Sister Suffragette Is The Song Of Mary Poppins (1964) Written By The Sherman Brothers. I Made A Karaoke Version With The Lyrics & Video On, Enjoy And Post Comments About My Work

  131. Nice, I saw the movie awhile back.
    They should teach this kind of stuff to kids on mothers day.

  132. oh geez, I don’t know why the vids aren’t showing over there. I will figure it out, but please go and see if you want to join, I could use some help writing interesting posts. I just have ideas and bounce them off those who can run with them. I guess that is some kind of muse but whatever! 😆

  133. Well Hillary is my Senator, and I for one do not want her to be anywhere near Obama. Let her become Majority Leader.

    I don’t want her to do all of Obama’s work and get none of the credit.

  134. ok, well the videos working, different vid, same song.

  135. frankly0, on November 14th, 2008 at 5:39 pm

    I agree. It is like MO saying that Hillary can’t run her house then calls her for advise on how to raise her children in the WH. Why would you want advise from someone you think is a bad housewife?

  136. Well anyway, if you do want to join just post *editor in the comments. Thanx

  137. and you can guide the agenda. Me I am not a political writer, I leave that to the experts. I am an energy and an artist and I do not have the time to be a political writer so join me and help guide the conversation the way YOU want it to be.

  138. angie sorry you had such a bad day but look it could be worse you could be the person that has to sell Obama to america and the world for the next 4 years!

    I am going to Jax this weekend! for a food fest at a friends house he is a williams senoma chef…will not be hungry at least!

  139. It is a genuine offer people. Please join me, and stay where you are and move on and do something about it. Yes we can be all things. CMON!!!!

  140. And so she woke up
    Woke up from where she was
    Lying still
    Said I gotta do something
    About where we’re going

    Step on a steam train
    Step out of the driving rain, maybe
    Run from the darkness in the night
    Singing Ha, Ah La La La De Day
    Ah La La La De Day
    Ah La La De Day

    Sweet the sin
    Bitter taste in my mouth
    I see seven towers
    But I only see one way out

    You got to cry without weeping
    Talk without speaking
    Scream without raising your voice

    You know I took the poison
    From the poison stream
    Then I floated out of here
    Singing…Ha La La La De Day
    Ha La La La De Day
    Ha La La De Day

    She runs through the streets
    With her eyes painted red
    Under black belly of cloud in the rain
    In through a doorway she brings me
    White gold and pearls stolen from the sea
    She is raging
    She is raging
    And the storm blows up in her eyes
    She will…

    Suffer the needle chill
    She is running to stand

    Still.

  141. {{{fuzzy}}}

  142. Whenever she’s feeling empty
    Whenever she’s feeling insecure
    Whenever her face is frozen
    Unable to fake it anymore

    Her shadow is always with her
    Her shadow could always keep her small
    So frightened that he won’t love her
    She builds up a wall

    Oh no, she knows where to hide in the dark
    Oh no, she’s nowhere to hide in the dark
    She’s a star
    She’s a star

    She’s been in disguise forever
    She’s tried to disguise her stellar views
    Much brighter than all this static
    Now she’s coming through

    Oh no, she knows where to hide in the dark
    Oh no, she’s nowhere to hide in the dark
    She’s a star
    She’s a star

    Don’t tell her to turn down
    Put on your shades if you can’t see
    Don’t tell her to turn down
    Turn up the flame
    She’s a star
    She’s a star

    It’s a long road
    It’s a great cause
    It’s a long road
    Its a good call

    You got it
    You got it
    She’s a Star

  143. Angie,

    I’m so sorry you had a bad day! It’s a shame you fell down, but I’m glad you didn’t break any bones.

    I’m always afraid of falling down now because 2 years ago this month I fell in front of my house in a freak accident and broke my elbow. It was horrible. You need to pamper yourself. If you don’t want to go out, give yourself permission to just curl up in bed or a nice comfy chair and relax.

  144. bb — thanks! I’m feeling too sorry for myself to be good company, so I’m staying home with my animals.
    My ankle that I twisted is my “bad ankle” — it has been broken 1x, sprained 5x & twisted more times then I can count. So, I’m used to it! lol

  145. I*’m so puke I’m gonna drunk

  146. Unfortunately I can’t see things changing.. They could but “we the people” has to want it enough.

  147. myiq — I’ve missed you — be nice to me I’ve had a bad day!

  148. bye all ride is here see you sunday nite…

  149. have fun fuzzy!!!! Love you!!

  150. I’m

  151. um, cat got your tongue?

  152. angienc, sorry to hear about your ankle. Are you taking care of it?

  153. You’re all talking around the issues. I don’t see what you are going to achieve by this. God love you, but you need leadership. I don’t see it.

  154. Eh — I have an ace bandage around it & it is resting on pillows (I’m staying off of it) — it’s just a “twist” — nowhere near as bad as a sprain or breaking it .

  155. I think myiq passed out.

  156. Britannia — LOL! passed out or his computer crashed — I think he was having problems with it earlier today.

  157. Love you lots Conflucians. But it is time to wake up and say fuck you Obamanation.

  158. spirit — we’re have you been? we’ve been saying fuck you to b0 since March.

  159. I’ve been here all the time angienc…. I love you gals ‘n guys but I fear that leadership is needed and yet not forthcoming. I am just trying to push some buttons and see what happens.

  160. Tell you what though! ELTON fucking JOHN., Someone HIRE That HERO!!!

  161. Spirit — leadership will come, Obama’s not even in office yet. There’s lots of conversations going on. We all need to process what’s happened and work out what to do next.

    Even now, PUMA’s only 6 months old. TC has been a refuge for longer, of course.

    And if TC is only ever a refuge, well that’s a giant thing in itself. Image what it would have been like going through the last year, surrounded by and bullied by obots day and night, hammered with media haka 24/7. Who’d be left that was still sane?

  162. I heard a British commenter on the News Hour call our president “Lame W Duck”. He went on to say that whenever W says something enthusiastically, he thinks the opposite must be true. I’m with that guy!

  163. My Obot sister sent out a group email asking if anyone would be interested in chartering a bus to go to DC for the inauguration. I replied that I had plans to pick the lint out of my belly button that day, but thanks anyway. I “accidentally” hit reply all. Now she is mad at me because she is sooooo embarrassed at having to explain my “bizarre” reply to her friends. I thought it was rather self-explanatory, myself, and at least one person on the list agreed with me (she said she had to referee a worm-wrestling contest that day!) I am going to write back as soon as I can compose a suitably witty reply.

  164. sleepyhead — that dang “reply all” will get you every time! LOL I love it though — good for you!!

  165. I “accidentally” hit reply all. 🙂

  166. purplefinn — exactly — “reply all” is the best cya!!

  167. Oh, {{{{Angie}}}} – hey sweetie – ice on for ten minutes, off for ten minutes – and so on keep it up and make sure you have a nice big glass of wine near by – good movie or book – pamper, yourself, dear.

  168. I am back. I had to cook dinner. Smothered Pork Chops

    Did you see this Sarah Palin tote bag?

    http://bags.cafepress.com/design/30393893

  169. Thanks Joanelle!!

  170. I keep crashing because of my Firefox upgrade. What a waste of time.

    Heidi Li has a post up to retire Hillary’s debt. It seems Obama hasn’t forked over anything to help her retire the debt. Not surprising, I’m sure. I hate seeing her in this situation. She already ate the $13 million in personal funds that she loaned her campaign. I sent $20.00 to the link Heidi provided. http://tdg.typepad.com/heidi_lis_potpourri/

    I am hoping we can make a dent init this time!

  171. And she cooks too!

  172. afrocity — that is the same as the sticker I have on the back of my car.

  173. I figured you guys knew about it. I like tote bags because I am not a tee shirt person.

  174. Someone here be nice to me & cheer me up & I’m going to cry.
    ***
    Angienc,

    Elevate that ankle and under a nice pillow. Yup, I had some of those days and they are no fun. Cheer up, and hopefully Hillary will let Kerry of Richardson be his SOS. Imagine, going there and not with a solid offer…heck, it is probably an excuse to insert Colin.

    Rain when it is cold is a bit chilly so I don’t blame you.

    Saturdays are sleep in days, so enjoy the rest.

  175. afrocity — I hadn’t seen the tote bag before. But it is the same picture as the sticker I have.

  176. Feel better soon, Angie! Hope this cheers you up 🙂

  177. Woman Voter — I have it up on some pillows now. Thanks!
    I ordered in Chinese too, so I’m sitting here watching tv, reading TC with y’all & eating Chinese in my comfy pjs — I’m having fun.

  178. afrocity, I like refrigerator magnents. I have a “Worst President Ever ” with a picture of you know who in the O. Very cute. Small enough so I don’t have to look at the guy.

  179. betushca — thanks! It’s great! 🙂

  180. magnents = magnets.

  181. Hello, gang – still trying to take in the news of Hillary being offered, and considering, the SOS post.

    Here’s another possibility: Barry wants to get Hillary out of the way (out of the country), and out of the Senate seat in NY. Why? To make way for…

    Caroline Kennedy Schlossberg. Her brother, JFK, Jr., was considering making a run for the NY Senate seat after Sen. Pat Moynihan announced his retirement, but tragically died in 1999. Hillary ran and won in 2000 instead.

    Does Caroline feel Hillary’s Senate seat really belongs to her family? Gov. Patterson is a friend of Barack, and would likely appoint her if Obama told him to do so, I believe.

    Do you think Caroline could be pushing Barack to give Hillary a post so she can take her Senate seat? After all, she and Uncle Ted endorsed him, and she was on his VP vetting team (one of those not disqualified from the team).

  182. Liberty Bell — I agree with your assessment — makes a lot of sense to me.

  183. Wouldn’t it be nice if Hillary foiled them and said, “No.”

  184. Obama Advisor Valerie Jarrett Linked to Real Estate Scandals

    Jarrett Managed Housing Project Deemed “Uninhabitable”
    Judicial Watch, the public interest group that investigates and prosecutes government corruption, announced today that it has obtained documents linking Valerie Jarrett, an advisor to Barack Obama and the co-chairman of the President-Elect’s transition team, to a series of real estate scandals, including several housing projects operated by convicted felon and Obama fundraiser/friend Antoin “Tony” Rezko.

    http://www.judicialwatch.org/news/2008/nov/obama-advisor-valerie-jarrett-linked-real-estate-scandals

  185. On the leaders forward: I was really impressed with Lynn de Rotheschild and think she at her heart and from all she has said shares the PUMA outrage about the violation of Democratic principles by the DNC and the Obama campaign.

    On HRC for SOS: I think she would be an excellent choice. I think her political career in terms of elective office is pretty much over for higher office. However, I think she is a real power house now in the Senate—she may not have the title but she is the go to person and especially with Kennedy out of the picture. I would prefer that HRC be Sec. of Treasury since I think a woman in that position would break some myths about women and finance and right now that is one of the most powerful positions you could have. But don”t forget, SOS puts her in the presidential succession (longest shot you can have at it). The other thing about her getting SOS that would be a plus is that we know Kerry covets that position and to me it would be especially sweet to see her get it over him. But do I want her in that administration? Not really. But if she goes there, she has my permission. After all, Country First and frankly I can not think of any thing better for our country. Maybe Sec. of Defense—that would be a good place too. I really want her to knock down barriers and Treasury and Defense are on my list of targets.

  186. I thought it was rather self-explanatory, myself, and at least one person on the list agreed with me (she said she had to referee a worm-wrestling contest that day!) I am going to write back as soon as I can compose a suitably witty reply.

    LOL! Plenty of people get it.

    Hi all. Catching up after a crazy two weeks. I saw littleisis’ post that said Palin called Hillary? I love that. I would love to hear that conversation. I would also have loved to be a fly on the wall for the BO/HRC sit down. As I see it, Hillary is in the catbird seat. Her staff categorically shot down her interest in the SCOTUS rumor. She told Mac she wants to stay in the Senate. If she is offered and accepts SOS, she will be the best one we’ve ever seen–and it will give her a power position with high visibility. I’d like it, just because she will show the world how presidential she really is, and it will further advance the image of strong women managing the most critical jobs in government. If she isn’t offered it or doesn’t want it, she’s a powerful force in the Senate. It’s all good.

  187. What do you guys think of the sec. of state position.

  188. Wizard of Oz is on TNT & TBS…never gets old.

  189. From afrocity:”I am not a tee shirt person.”

    I am, but like the girl-cuts with a little stretch that emphasize my rack.

  190. Fif, I agree with what you said entirely.

  191. Hey – betuscha that was terrific – music for the soul! cute too 😆

    Libertybell – that sounds more like the kind of devious thing that crew would do 👿

  192. Jangles: Judas Richardson also covets SOS. She could smack down two for the price of one! I don’t think BO has the guts to give it to her. I suspect it’s just another crumb thrown to her and her minions, but as A. Mitchell (yick) said today, his people have been very disciplined about leaks and wouldn’t have released it if she wasn’t in serious contention. Also, it would be very bad politically for him to insult her twice after not even vetting her for VP. We shall see. I’ve never seen him make such a wise choice–show us what you’ve bot Obie.

    I’m also being selfish–I just want to see her more, and we will if she is SOS.

  193. I want Hill in the senate. Someone has to lead the pack that stands up against the “Dems” that bend over for BO–to take whatever corrupt crap he dreams up to shove down our throats.

  194. Regency: you love her like I do :)))

  195. joanie: Senate Majority Leader would be fantastic–but I don’t see them giving it to her.

  196. fif, even if she wasn’t the “leader” SHE WOULD BE.

  197. Fif: You know I do.

    I will support whatever she does but god I can’t talk about this all weekend.

  198. I agree that she would make a great SOS if allowed to – remember we are talking about a power hungry crew here. And as someone said earlier – if they get her out of the Senate and let her go a year later -then where is she – nowhere:(

  199. Angie–take good care of yourself and baby that ankle, too. I personally hope you stay in and amuse us all with your comments.

    Catarina–what you said about falling is true. Last year I was putting up Christmas decorations and whacked my head so hard on the mantle (its a bit convoluted…) that I was knocked right off my feet. I started crying too, part pain, and part just feeling so vulnerable when I hadn’t expected it. When I had an abnormal mammogram, I didn’t cry at all, go figure.

    Tomorrow, my family is going over to San Francisco to protest Prop 8. Feels a bit ‘after the fact,’ but I think it will be important to my 10 year old daughter. After fielding some very negative remarks at school last week, she wrote an essay for school titled “My Two Lesbian Moms” and drew a small banner that said “Moms Rule.” Apparently, she can’t be kept down for long, thank god.

  200. joaniebone, on November 14th, 2008 at 9:03 pm Said:

    From afrocity:”I am not a tee shirt person.”

    I am, but like the girl-cuts with a little stretch that emphasize my rack.

    LOL — joanie we do have a lot in common — I also only wear scoop or v-necks, not ringer necks, to give my cleavage a little breathing room! 😉

  201. I will support whatever she does but god I can’t talk about this all weekend.

    Why–did they say it would be announced soon? This guessing could go on until January right?

    joanie: you’re right–she already is. Did you read that she slipped Bush that letter about the economy at the rededication to the Intrepid (when she was wearing that smokin’ blue dress)? Nothing is going to stop her from being a forceful and innovative leader–it is who she is.

  202. Regencey,

    I hear you. I just need a break sometimes. I love being here with my friends and can’t always gear up these days. This is my family, and I need to be here- goofy or serious. It all comes and goes.

    Weary, I guess.

  203. angie- we’re both shameless hussies used to having our way.

  204. Fif: Every five minutes a new poster comes in and we have to start talking about this all over again. We’ve been over this 4 times. For the love of god, why again? What else can we say?

  205. angienc – Thanks for seeing my point about Caroline Kennedy Schlosberg, and…

    As one who has sprained both ankles, and broken one, two, I’ll pass along my genuine empathy, and the key to healing ankle sprains, as you may know: R-I-C-E (rest, ice, compression and elevation) and anti-inflamatories, like ibuprofen. If necessary, physical therapy can also work wonders. Oh yes, TLC from whoever – we’ll send you healing energy remotely. Visualizing you up and about with pain-free functioning!

  206. I so hope Hillary says no way to SOS. she would be serving at BO’s pleasure and obligated to support his vision, whatever that may be. if she displays any independent thought, she’ll be replaced and then she’ll be nowhere………I’d love to see her asked, but I’d hate to see it happen

    angie, so sorry about your ankle and your day. feel better!

  207. Reg, let’s just talk about shameless hussies we know. More fun.

  208. joanie — “shameless hussies” is only what the jealous girls call us! 😉 If they had it, they’d flaunt it too!!! LOL

  209. angie,

    I advocate laughter therapy.

  210. Hmmm, you guys reminded me of a conversation I had at lunch today. I met a friend who is an anthropology professor at one of the local colleges here in northern NJ – she said she was really angry with her female students this year. When I asked why she said “They sit in class day after day with their b**bs practically hanging out of their shirts, cleavage everywhere and then they complain about the way the male students treat them.”

    I just told her that I thought youth has a different perspective.

  211. It’s true, angie, but even I call myself that. Spoiled vixen–that’s me..

  212. The Chicago machine is at work:

    An Obama campaign source tells ABC News that close Obama family friend and adviser Valerie Jarrett has been named Senior Advisor and Assistant to the President for Intergovernmental Relations and Public Liaison.

  213. I am a shameless hussy.

  214. angienc, et al. – Correct my post “broken one, too” (not “two”). Once was enough!

  215. reg, takes one to know one!

  216. Thanks for the good vibes Liberty & kiki

    I only twisted it though, I didn’t sprain it (yes, I’ve done both before, also broken it too — always the left one — its such a weakling!).

  217. Ha ha. This guy on Hannity called Obama Carter 2.0

  218. joanie — Spoiled Vixen — I like that — that fits me too.

  219. afrocity – Thanks for letting us know about Valerie Jarrett. Do you suppose she made up her own title before the election? The Chicago Machine is amazing.

  220. Ahh, hussies and vixens you’d really drive her nuts – good thing you’re not in any of her classes.

    She mumbled about it for a while and I finally ordered another glass of wine for both of us and told her it was the way of the world 😉

  221. angie,
    probably a good thing we don’t live in the same town.
    trouble with a capital T

  222. Angie: I’m sending you Big Dawgful healing vibes from down here in Tejas

  223. Yeah — good for those other gals.

    Are you a blond? That would be awesome — one blond, one brunette — 1000 broken hearts.

  224. whaddaya think about “PUMAmatch.com”?

  225. I am feeling supremely bitchy…

    In my little mind, I think that “Senior Advisor and Assistant to the President for Intergovernmental Relations and Public Liaison” is longhand for mistress.

    See, I’m a shameless, hussy.

  226. thanks Reg!

  227. Oh, the word her was she would have a job. Vogue ran a piece on her in October as a style icon. She was wrapped up with Rezko and bad real estate deals.

  228. I had a friend that was blonde and we went around as “salt and peppa”.

    No angie, I’m a cross between Sophia Loren and Lucille Ball.

  229. I just feel that anything Obama wants Hillary to do/be can’t be good.

  230. Reg — I thought that guy (is he even still alive?) was B0’s mistress.

  231. “Senior Advisor and Assistant to the President for Intergovernmental Relations and Public Liaison” is longhand for mistress.”

    next time I f*@ck a married guy, I’ll put that on my biz card. (just kidding –would NEVER!!! do that. Mean it.)

  232. joanie — no kidding. I always pictured you as a blond for some reason — but red heads/deep auburns are sexier by a mile.

  233. what the heck is it with Greta? she’s just so darn likable.

  234. No, I am contrast- dark. Very big brown eyes, what you could call dramatic features, very dark hair, 5″8″. Big mouth–in all senses. Broad smile.

    It’s my incessant clumsiness that is all Lucille Ball.

    I’d like to call it charming, but……..

  235. so what’s happening with the effing view? is it going to happen?

  236. I looove redheads!

  237. Oops, not to say I look like Sophia Loren. Sexy yes, but different looking.

  238. No married men here either (that I know of — I have dated some super assholish liars). 🙂

  239. Fif, I like the idea of effin view too! When is it happening?

    What? No bites on PUMAmatch.com? Rats.

  240. kiki — yes! The Effing View is being put together as we speak. Unfortunately, myiq punked out on us & he will not be on the show. I am going to cry all night into my pillow.

    SOD, afrocity & I are going to have a teleconference this weekend to discuss a fourth & finalize a start date.

    I’m thinking a weekly show, what do you think? we could also do twice a month or monthly.

  241. ok, since you brought up PUMAmatch and since I’m watching Hannity & Colmes, did y’all know that Sean Hannity has a dating website? really, he does. it’s called HanniMatch, I think. oy

  242. Angie, weekly is good.

    I love Angela..The black Ann Coulter!

  243. kiki,
    OY x 2 !!

  244. I have a new post ready…shall I put it up?

  245. SOD, you should probably save us from ourselves.

  246. I think a weekly show would be good if y’all are comfortable with the idea. between three of you you could come up with a theme each week, and if you take calls you won’t have to talk for a whole hour. instead of a fourth, you could have a guest fourth each time maybe. should be easy to find volunteers here, I would think.

  247. SOD & afrocity — check your mail!!

  248. kiki — that is exactly what I just emailed afrocity & sod — that the 4th could be a rotating position.

  249. New Post up

  250. joanie — thank god — brunettes are the only truly sultry women. Now I can be comfortable telling you that! LOL

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