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Saturday: The Heart of the People is Resisting

Joe the Plumber may be the best thing that ever happened this election season.  (Ruh-Roh, it looks like someone may have illegally accessed Joe’s personal information.  H/T Orange).

Once the media turned on him, people everywhere started to Get It.  Whoever is running the establishment, the parties, the media, is waging a war on regular, average Americans.  Yes, Virginia, the media really *is* trying to force Obama down your throat.  No, they don’t give a rat’s @$$ about you.

The funny thing is that most Americans don’t even know the half of it.  They are blissfully unaware of just how close the delegate count was between Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama.  They have no idea that she lost the nomination because her own party plunged a knife into her back in favor of a less than first term corrupt and ruthless schmoozer from Chicago.  How many Americans would vote for Obama if they knew how he disenfranchised 18 million Americans out of their primary votes?  How would they feel about his hopey-changey shtick if they were enlightened to all of the voter suppression techniques he and his merry brand of electoral thieves used in the primaries and caucuses?

And it’s not like the party has done ANYTHING to reach out and appeal to us.  They haven’t apologized.  They humiliated Hillary and have her on the indentured servant circuit.  They have thrown out any reasonable solutions she has proposed on the financial bailout.  They screwed us over on FISA.  And Obama himself lobbied his fellow senators for the Paulson plan which forks over taxpayer money to banks and other institutions making us silent, non-voting partners in those same institutions.  The tycoons can spend that money aaaaannnnnyway they please, provided they pay the US Government dividends.  How they do it is completely up to them.  They can pay themselves handsomely, and they have and there’s not a single thing that Joe the Plumber can do about it.  Talk about spreading the wealth.  Obama *liked* this plan and made no effort to stop it or change it or propose policies that would make it better.  In fact, it’s worse than that.  He was all ready to vote on the first bill that would have given taxpayers *no* share in the banks.  All we would have gotten were some worthless assets.  Obama thought this was cool.

In the 60’s, we would have said that we are “subverting the dominant paradigm”.  It’s not easy being pain-in-the-@$$ non-conforming, rational, clear headed thinkers who insist that our candidates play fairly, behave ethically and demonstrate that they are good public servants.  Well, someone has to do it and that is us.  Yes, it seems sometimes like we are trying to stop a speeding train with our hands but Joe the Plumber has made our job a LOT easier.

So, all of you Resistors out there, have heart!  No matter what happens, we won’t give up until we are recognized, respected and valued.  We have to stick up for ourselves because, sure as Hell, no one else is going to do it.  And there are millions of us regular Joes out there.

So saith RD the Chemist.

89 Responses

  1. Couldn’t have said it better myself. Since my friends have been thoroughly bamboozled by the media, I’ve stopped discussing politics. The Confluence is my mental refuge. Thanks to RD and all of you here for helping me to keep my sanity this election season.

  2. Aboard the Reistance mobile with you. Chatblu the RN

  3. oops. Resistance.

  4. Thanks–I get it. No wonder, even with the huge expenditure of partially ill-gotten gains, Obama isn’t able to buy the hearts of thinking Americans. Thanks for the insight.

  5. In the 60’s, we would say that we are “subverting the dominant paradigm”. It’s not easy being pain-in-the-@$$ non-conforming, rational, clear headed thinkers who insist that our candidates play fairly, behave ethically and demonstrate that they are good public servants.

    LOL! Speaking of tenacious PUMAs, we got another shout out from a conservative source today. Isn’t it a shame when the only ones who will acknowledge our existence are the wingers?

    http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/10/signs_pointing_to_a_mccain_vic.html

  6. grayslady: isn’t it awful how many good, kind, intelligent people think they are doing the “right” thing, as we did in the past, by pulling that lever for the “D” candidate? They have been completely bamboozled…

  7. fif–You’re so right. May 31, 2008 freed me to look at my former party without blinders, but if you read the mainstream press you’d believe that Obama represents the leadership we’ve all been waiting for. Only PUMAs and the Republicans seemed to have noticed that our primary votes were stolen.

  8. RD-great post!

    Can’t believe it – I’m not on the blog since 6 last night and 4 posts are up already!! You are prolific!

    Joe the Plumber: the sory on myiq’s thread which someone posted about his records being illegally accessed reminded me of the moveon.org video which basically shows that that would happen to the lone voter that would cost Obama victory.

    But you are right, Joe the Plumber has woken many voters up. At my daughters college last night – many of the kids are starting to look at the entire situation. Dems who voted for Hillary and planned to vote for Obama are reconsidering and leaning McCain. The genearl consensus was that things are so bad that the calmer voice of reason is McCains, he makes less promises and can be trusted to steer the country through this dark period.

  9. They have no idea that she lost the nomination because her own party plunged a knife into her back in favor of a less than first term corrupt and ruthless schmoozer from Chicago.–riverdaughter
    ***
    The above hit home for me and describes everything especially the schmoozing that goes on, where the elected officials care about their special friends and to hell with the voters.

    I read today in the UK newspapers that they don’t want the ‘R’ word mentioned as it is causing lack of confidence, lack of HOPE and lack of optimism in the markets/economy. They say the banking crisis will only get worse with the drumming of the ‘R’ word (recession).

    NOW, who has been talking down the economy for nearly two years? BO! How can someone with such a negative attitude about the free market system fix it? How can someone that has never had to built a business and run it know? Lets be frank, I don’t trust someone that doesn’t have a record of running anything. He was always looking for the next position once elected (busy schmoozing) and never took his current position at heart or worked at it. After the presidency…world premier?

    BREAKING NEWS! NOW…there is an investigation about ‘certain’ individuals obtaining JOE the plumber’s personal records using government computers! HELLO, remember FISA…you want these people in charge looking you up if you express DISSENT! 😦

  10. Excellent truthful yet hopeful post, RD

    fif, I’m glad we are getting coverage, but the media’s love affair with George W. convinced me that “liberal” isn’t the key way to describe our press. Right or left the media is waging the “class” wars we’re not allowed to talk about by media other than that which is handed out on street corners – too radical! And leaning right or left the MSM is on the same side of those class wars.

  11. Thanks, RD – on the mark again!

    My issue is that all of these great thoughts – facts and figures are just being passed around among us and really never get out to the greater, voting population.

    We need to somehow figure out how to get the word out THERE

  12. I hope someone posts Joe the plumber’s reaction to being told about the investigation on Cavuto this morning. He was truly disappointed and I too am disappointed to learn that it is NOT ONLY THE PRESS PUSHING HIS ELECTION BUT PEOPLE WITHIN GOVERNMENT AGENCIES AS WELL. 😦

  13. Another great post! thank you RD.

  14. two 16 year old kids just stopped by our house to canvass. 16 years old. by themselves, no adults. What the fuck is going on? mawm is going to find their parents and ask why they’re letting their children go up to strangers’ houses unsupervised.

  15. One side effect the power brokers that run both parties and the media may not have expected is that reasonable people from the left, right, and middle are now talking to each other.

    And once that happens, people like Joe the Plumber, RD the chemist, Chatblue the RN and Marge the Secretary find out that we have more in common with each other than we ever knew. And a lot less in common with the “leadership” that doesn’t lead where we want to go.

    Give up? Give in? Let these ratbastards on either side of the aisle get away with not doing their jobs or their duty? Hell no! PUMAs don’t have quit in their DNA.

    NØbama NØway in NØvember

  16. Garychapelhill,

    I agree, when I did canvasing we went with a companion and we were adults. Need I ask who they were campaigning for?

  17. kenoshaMarge, on October 25th, 2008 at 10:54 am Said:
    Give up? Give in? Let these ratbastards on either side of the aisle get away with not doing their jobs or their duty? Hell no! PUMAs don’t have quit in their DNA.

    NØbama NØway in NØvember

    ***
    Yea…no turning back now! If they got the plumber they will go after anyone. Power corrupts when they forget why they were elected.

  18. purplefinn, on October 25th, 2008 at 10:40 am Said: …And leaning right or left the MSM is on the same side of those class wars.

    absolutely….the top 1 % and its press are beyond party . This year they decided to back the supposed Dem, bascily because McCain cares too much about the average person to qualify . They want someone who does not care about the lower $$ people at all
    ( that is, you and me) . I’m not saying McCain is Hillary in his care of the average person….but he sure as hell cares more than Barry….well anyone who

    They want the AA, physcopath, non Dem to batter ram the shock and awe economy measures that are Bush 3-5 . They can’t wait to tell you that if you protest having to eat dog food , you are rac*ist . etc.

  19. RD Amen sister-Tothink we could have had the better candidate represent us. The Democratic Party could have triumphed on the pure merit of our convictions! Senator Clinton and John McCain could have raised the level of debate in this country to a level not scene in 40 plus year.

    We Democrats could have gone down in history as the party that ended all the nastiness and personal attacks we could have had 2 candidates that stood on the content of their character.

    Instead we are stuck with a race where our party wants us to vote only on the colour of the candidates skin. The mud is so deep that I have to get out my Mississippi hip huggers (not a pretty sight.)

    I am truely dismayed but totally focused on saving what is left of the Democratic Party.

    In all the great religions there are great trial. The people of that faith go through many do not make it. In every one of these stories from Judism to Christianity to Native American Culture there is always a “Saving Remnent” that pulls the people back from the brink or brings them back to the promised land.

    I believe thd PUMA/JSND movement is the “Saving Remnent” of the Progressive Liberal Movement in the Democratic Party…hell in the whole country.

    Keep the faith as RD said “WE are the people that NO ONE was EXPECTING!”

    Bless you all

  20. ‘It’s not easy being pain-in-the-@$$ non-conforming, rational, clear headed thinkers who insist that our candidates play fairly, behave ethically and demonstrate that they are good public servants. ”

    No, because it’s not part of the prevailing ethos. That has to change. Do away with bullsh*t “leadership” studies, and promote discourse among regular folk. Take people seriously and listen, carefully, to what they say. Then mull it over, and agree, or not. But this is beginning to sound like – oh, Scandinavia, not the present day US of A. The American Constitution has a wonderful short introductory phrase that says it all; “We the People.” It does not say: “We the Elected Leaders”, or “We the Politicians” or “We the Senators”. Nope – it is “We the People.” Pure and simple.

  21. Garychapehill,

    It’s because they’re getting desperate. Prepare to see five-year-olds lisping praise for The One at your door next.

    By The Fault has poll numbers for NC; they’re back in favor of McCain/Palin.

    This is *with* the border to border blanketing of NC with Obama ads and the (possibly illegal) rallies for the One staged on at a state college campus, using campus facilities, right next to the on-campus open and operating early voting site.

  22. Report: Government Computers Used to Get Information on ‘Joe the Plumber’

    The Dispatch reported that information on Wurzelbacher was accessed by accounts assigned to the office of Ohio Attorney General Nancy H. Rogers, the Cuyahoga County Child Support Enforcement Agency and the Toledo Police Department.
    http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/10/25/report-government-computers-used-information-joe-plumber/
    ……………..

    My dear lord, how far have things gone, when the government targets its citizens. When did it become a crime to ask a question of a presidential candidate? 😦

  23. fuzzybeargville, on October 25th, 2008 at 11:02 am Said……..Senator Clinton and John McCain could have raised the level of debate in this country to a level not scene in 40 plus year…..

    Yup. Another reason Hill had to be stopped . The press has worked too hard to lower the level to let it get raised now! lol!

  24. I’m so impressed with all of the comments, I can’t begin to cite each one for a shout-out. I’ll just quote fuzzybeargville,

    “Keep the faith as RD said “WE are the people that NO ONE was EXPECTING!”

    Bless you all”

  25. I am off to a seminar and a good thing as I am really upset about what they did to Joe the plumber. I always held our right to Free Expression of thought as the most dearly held right and this is a clear trampling of Joe’s rights to Free Speech and it also is an act against ALL citizens of this great nation.

    RD, you have my admiration as do all the PUMAs that have stood tall and held their ground. I don’t think I could bare this without the lot of you at the PUMA sites.

  26. Want to take this bet? The officials in Ohio who tapped into Joe’s records to get info on him are BO Dems.

  27. Great post.

  28. I so love that slogan, “We are the people no one was expecting.” I would so love to have that on a PUMA t-shirt.

  29. The story about Joe the Plumber’s government information being searched makes you feel so comfortable about the whole FISA thing that Obama voted for, doesn’t it? I mean, who cares about the government spying on ordinary citizens?

    But I’m sure that there won’t be any government employees, rogue or otherwise, involved in domestic spying who will seek information for other than perfectly legitimate purposes.

    And, really, if you haven’t done anything wrong, why should you in any case worry about being spied on? And if you don’t ask President Obama any embarrassing questions, you likely won’t have done anything wrong.

  30. Jangles, this is not meant to be snarky, but get us to bet on a less sure thing! . Woman voter asked the correct question I believe. The Police have the legal right to access Joe’s driver’s license. One simple question: why were they doing that?

  31. Doesn’t the Joe the Plumber privacy invasion remind you of what happened to the man who saved Gerald Ford’s life back in 1975? He was outed by the press, sued and lost. Meanwhile, the would-be assassin just got paroled.
    Guess I was wrong. The Fourth Estate was always vicious. Not just lately.
    http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/01/01/MN2UU7JA4.DTL

  32. two 16 year old kids just stopped by our house to canvass. 16 years old.

    The American Idol candidate.

  33. FIF, a lot of us moderate conservatives do support you. I can’t speak for others, but I was seriously considering voting for Hillary and am not happy about how this entire election is going. I’ve seen more stunts, back stabbing, magic tricks, etc., than I ever thought possible.

  34. frankly0, on October 25th, 2008 at 11:17 am Said:

    “And, really, if you haven’t done anything wrong, why should you in any case worry about being spied on? And if you don’t ask President Obama any embarrassing questions, you likely won’t have done anything wrong.”

    🙂

  35. It does not say: “We the Elected Leaders”, or “We the Politicians” or “We the Senators”. Nope – it is “We the People.” Pure and simple.

    or “We the Media.”

  36. Guys watch this. It is Biden trying to justify Obama and ACORN, etc. It is an interview from yesterday. He is so mean to this female reporter.Please watch.

  37. Why is the media as biased against McCain as they were against HRC? I think that question is at the heart of media bias in this election because McCain has had his own history of media support and I predicted the media would become more “fair and balanced” when the contest came down to McCain and Obama. So I wonder why I was so wrong. I certainly do not think it is Sarah—although I note that she is their target of choice as a way of getting to McCain. Why are some of the neo-con bushies lining up for Obama now?

    I really think that some of the deep down reasons are that the media chooses who has the most money to waste on their services. Look at what Bush spent on his election—especially if you consider all the 527 money spent. Look at what Obama spends. Follow the money. And btw, HOW CAN WE HAVE A FRONT PAGE STORY ON THE COST OF SARAH’S WARDROBE AND NOTHING ABOUT THE COST OF OBAMA’S CAMPAIGN????????

  38. The Police have the legal right to access Joe’s driver’s license. One simple question: why were they doing that?

    urge: all of the accounts accessed were tapped right AFTER the debate in which McCain cited Joe several times. It’s not as if the police department was doing a routine check for some reason. There is no doubt this was political.

  39. No merci beaucoup, is about the extent of my French, but this is a great find

    Poor James and the Swamp Crows “OBAMA, NO MERCI BEAUCOUP”

    He never met a tax he didnt like.
    Hes got crazy friends like Rev. Wright.
    Hed rather give away the farm than fight.
    No merci beaucoup.

    Obama, no merci beaucoup,
    Obama, no merci beaucoup,
    Obama, no merci beaucoup,
    No merci beaucoup.

    He thinks oil should be against the law.
    He runs down America.
    Hes ashamed of his own Grandma.
    No merci beaucoup.

    Hey you good people that work all day,
    hes got plans to dock your pay,
    and let his unemployed voters go and ___ it away,
    No merci beaucoup.

  40. I think in most states police do not have an unbridled right to look up info on your driver’s license. They need a reason to do so. For example if you are stopped they check your record. But I know that in CA a police official has to include cause for accessing license and record information. A policeman can not just go joy riding through the data base.

  41. “When in the course of human events it comes time for one people to server their ties to another…..” “…that all (men) are created equal and endowed by their creator with certian inaliliable rights among these are a life, liberty, and the persuit of happiness…”

    Obviously, to those creeps who accessed Joe the Plumber’s personal info….those are just speaches just words!

    Of course I could be wrong here?

  42. Jangles: I suspect the media doesn’t like McCain for two reasons. 1.) He’s not Obama. and 2.) Republicans are uncomfortable with him as well. The radical Republicans like Bill Kristol and other dedicated movement conservatives like Peggy Noonan know that John McCain is not one of them. He’s had to suck up to them for eight years and I’m guessing that was almost as bad as the Hanoi Hilton in terms of breaking one’s spirit. Oh, sure, McCain is a Republican. He may even be quite conservative on some issues. But what he is most of all is anti-corruption. And if he gets into office, the gravy train stops and they know it. The Keating incident seems to have made a deep impact on McCain.
    He’s not the standard issue Republican who is going to be kind to corporations and lobbyists. Those days will be over with McCain. With Obama? ehhhhhh, not so much. That’s why you’re not seeing the slavish support in the media behind McCain.

  43. fuzzy, you forgot the 2008 Amendment to the Constitution: “Unless they are uppity plumbers, who asked a question, that looked simple but was actually really, really tricky. “

  44. afrocity: that Biden interview is unbelievable. What, did he forget to bring his flask for a nip before the interview? He is so angry and condescending. He also lies repeatedly through the interview. They “haven’t given a single penny to ACORN.” The reported didn’t mention that Obama DID give ACORN $800K during the primaries. He also talks responds to “spreading the wealth” around re: middle class tax cuts, but does not address the credits he wants to give to people who do not pay any Federal Income Tax. Lastly, his interpreration of what he really meant when he said Obama would be tested is laughable. “Obama is MORE ready than McCain, because McCain was wrong about being greeted as liberators in Iraq and won’t meet with North Korea.” B.S. Joe. McCain knew there were not enough boots on the ground in the beginning, and does not hold Obama’s kumbaya world view of diplomacy re: meeting without preconditions. They just lie, lie, like, and his attitude toward her just drips with contempt. What a jerk.

  45. thanks Afrocity…that link was great

  46. He’s not the standard issue Republican who is going to be kind to corporations and lobbyists. Those days will be over with McCain. With Obama? ehhhhhh, not so much. That’s why you’re not seeing the slavish support in the media behind McCain.

    Especially if McCain’s gonna be a one-term president. What’s to stop him from doing an honest, decent job?

  47. He’s not the standard issue Republican who is going to be kind to corporations and lobbyists. Those days will be over with McCain. With Obama? ehhhhhh, not so much.

    I don’t know why the McCain camp has not blown the whistle on Obama’s strong financial ties to Wall St & Fannie/Freddie. His “grassroots” image is the only side of the story Axelrove promotes for obvious reasons, but most people have no idea where his millions comes from. Meanwhile, he rails against the greed on Wall St.

  48. The more I hear Joe and Barry speak the more I think these guys fust do not like girls…

    Ugh…I hope thay dont like guys that would be just gross in my book!

  49. Jangles: Why are some of the neo-con bushies lining up for Obama now?
    ————————–

    No torture
    Guantanamo
    campaign reform
    gang of 14 against judicial selection
    speaking out on FM/FM
    Ted Kennedy

    and many other things where McCain stood against the party when they were doing the wrong thing.

  50. fif, fortunately, Biden himself is increasingly unbelievable to a lot of folks. That’s what, IMO, you do not see him too often on TV. The man is maybe not a total idiot, but close. Sort of strange that BO, the supposedly kool, never get mad, outsider (ha, ha!) chooses mad as a hornet, trip over his feet, credit card industry ‘facilitator’, Joe insider Biden as his running mate.

  51. Why are some of the neo-con bushies lining up for Obama now?

    Jangles: I heard Limbaugh talking about this yesterday, and was he p*ssed. For once I agreed with him: it is pure self-interest. He talked about the elite political class, and they do not want to be left out of the power structure in DC. For those like Noonan & Parker, Palin is not sophisticated enough (think Sally Quinn & Hillary Clinton). The others, like Powell, were always quasi-Republicans, and are just following what they think will be the new career advantage. Ken A. (a neo-con) told a friend of his that “he sure hopes Obama doesn’t mean what he is saying about the changes he wants to make” (ie: he is not endorsing him because of policies, but because it’s trendy). RL went on to say, “C’mon, how do you go from being a principled Reagan supporter to Barack Obama?” Is there anyone who is not for sale in DC?

  52. p.s. Limbaugh said the political expediency is true in both parties, and so is the elitism. That’s the part I agreed with–we have seen it clearly in the primaries. Judas anyone?

  53. Forgot about that one: “McCain knew there were not enough boots on the ground in the beginning”

  54. I know that sometimes labels
    STICK … I wish Sarah or John would just call Bo the

    Obama the TAX MAN and get it over with … even this late in the game it would help !!!!

  55. urge: Biden really is a dope isn’t he? It seems he has very little self-discipline. I’m sure there are many people in the O campaign who wish they had chosen the true professional as a running mate. Oh, and BTW: she had 18 million votes. My Dem party operative friend said people come up to her all the time, and say they “wish we had nominated HRC.” She doesn’t want to hear it: “Yea? Well, you should have supported her in the primaries then.”

  56. Hi Swanspirit! ((((waves))) I am thoroughly enjoying your show this a.m. Do you have a play list on the site?

  57. swan: oops, I just saw the link of the playlist. Thanks.

  58. hahahah

    just had an obama canvasser come to my door…. told him I was undecided and I had him recite me all the obot talking points for about 2 minutes…. the HILARIOUS part of the whole thing is that we are in the middle of a heavy downpour and I made the poor kid stand out in the rain while he tried to sell me on obama…

    man, i’m cruel 🙂

  59. BPD: That makes me a little sad. People really do care and are working hard for that they think is best–unfortunately, they are peddling snake oil. What were his talking points? Did you give him some facts?

  60. Sometimes, when I have had enought of those flatuent gasbags-Joe and Barry-I just want to take them out in the front yard and beat the crap out of them…

    Not the backyard but the front yard just haul off and punch the daylights out of them…in front of god/des and everyone…I mean my neghbors are good people so I want them to enjoy it to..

    I would just like to pick them up over my 6’2″ frame and drop them back to the ground, with a short stop across my knee. Maybe they would then just shut up!

    I want to just smack these two…and really folks fuzzybear is not a voilent man but every day and everyway they find new words to insult my intellegence!

    now back to your regularly scheduled program…err thread!

  61. yes MAAAM we dew
    HIYA FIF shout out to ya coming up !!

    http://www.cygnusradio.com/playlist.php

  62. A woman I work with is smart, spiritual, conscientious, and aware. She’s a good person who cares. Unfortunately, she is up in NH today campaigning for BO. I am continually struck by how little information good people have about this man. Then I become furious with the corrupt press again. They have failed the electorate and our democracy!!

    Campbell Brown: No Bias, No Bull.

    Can you believe they even have the gall to address the problem with such bullsh*t?

  63. sorry to be truthful, I probably should not have said “Sometimes” at the begining of that last comment-

  64. Jangles-I have a T Shirt with “Hear us Roar”. I had them made for me and my grand daughter. I was at the credit union yesterday and had several employees ask me about them. I have an ebay account under the name rat_dog_39, which is my age and my best friend’s name, my little fox terrier. I have put some up for sale.

  65. BPD: That *was* mean. You should have just slammed the door in his face so he could mark you off his canvassing sheet and get out of the rain.

  66. Campbell fricking Brown is married to Dan Senor, one of Bush’s CPA advisors in Iraq who screwed the whole place up with hyper free market capitalistic ideology on crystal meth. She can’t get away from the bias. She’s injected with it.

  67. New post upstairs. I have a question up there about writing in Hillary if anyone has time to help. Thanks!

    Magda

  68. BPD, don’t worry he will wring the rain water from his clothes and make Kool Aid for everyone. That is part of the Obama spreading the wealth plan.

  69. RD: I can’t figure that out though. Why would Brown be shilling shamelessly for BO if she’s married to a neocon? Unless it’s a Schwarzenegger/Shriver deal.

  70. fif – I’m sure you are correct, but this is the 4th or 5th time they’ve come by, and I’m just tired of it….

    I just listened and played dumb, with the exception of when he told me Obama was going to stop spending 10 bil/month on Iraq…. I chimed in there and told him, no Obama has already backtracked on an immediate withdrawal from iraq, that he was going to send more troops into Afghanistan which will cost money, and that much of that 10 bil is actually operational costs that we would pay even if all of our troops and equipment were brought back home…. unless we decided to disband the army and liquidate all our equipment on ebay. He tried to spin out of it by saying the Iraq war was illegal and a disaster… I agreed with him that it was a disaster, and left it at that.

  71. BPD, don’t worry he will wring the rain water from his clothes and make Kool Aid for everyone. That is part of the Obama spreading the wealth plan.

    LOL! Good one afrocity.

  72. I’m not blaming you BPD. I just hate this whole situation–how duped people have been by the Axelrove New Coke marketing campaign. These people could be using their energy and effort to elect a real Democrat, preferably one who’s name starts with an “H.” Instead, he’s created a deluded army of cultists, tramping around in the rain with false dreams of World Peace.

  73. I’m with BPD on this one. I am sorry about the rain, but if you keep them engaged then they can provide disinformation to one less person.

  74. fif:

    Notice that it’s the Bush neocons jumping on the Obamawagon?

  75. afrocity, since I concur with your assessment that Obama will do nothing as president or senator to address the violence in Chicago, what do you see as hopeful?

    NPR has this as its top story now:

    Chicago High School Raises Crops, Career Hopes

    by Scott Simon

    “………………But if you listen carefully to the cacophony of car horns and bus splats, you may hear Lucy, chomping on grass like a pig, which she is — a Vietnamese pot-bellied pig of 350 pounds and then some. Lucy is also the resident mascot at the Chicago High School for Agricultural Sciences, a public school and a 72-acre working farm. Its 600 students grow corn, milk cows, farm fish and run a stand where their own apples, pickles and cookies are for sale……………”

    *********
    Some parents really like the relative safety of this school.

  76. I just got this in my email

    …Please remove (if you are still playing any of it anymore) any of my music from your “station”. I do not wish to EVER be associated with Cygnus Radio at ANY level. I can’t be associated with a station who’s owner/proprietor would support hate mongers like the McCain/Palin ticket.

    I’m so sorry for you Swannie. You seemed like such a nice person. Perhaps if you call Sarah, she can get her own Pastor Muthee to pray the demons of witchcraft away from you, just like he did for her.

    Ironic? Sure is.
    But seriously, have a happy life. The next 4 years will be very frustrating for you I imagine, no matter who wins. You can be assured of NEVER hearing from me again.

    This is from i am sorry to say no talent hack/ guitar player “friend” we stopped playing years ago …. who only ever dropped by to request his own music ,
    I have not heard from this guy for almost a year .. he started sending me political stuff unsolicited; and i asked not to send me anymore very nicely; and it escalated to this , he was actually trying to pressure me into voting for bo
    HA HA HA HA HA HA
    ask me if i care ..

    now… NOWHERE on the station site have we endorsed anyone , because i believe that is a personal thing for all the people who DJ there including myself , and i do not want to create any discomfort because everyone owns their vote !
    cheesh and he calls me a hatemonger wow !

  77. hey y’all — is NO Quarter down for a reason??? I haven’t been able to get there since last night…..

  78. wow that (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X346U109Chs) was a good interview.

    That’s what actual journalism looks like and it is so evident that Biden isn’t used to having to answer actual questions. Oh, yes… and he’s a condescending jerk throughout.

  79. NQ switched servers. It’s up.

  80. do they have a new URL??

  81. I’m not getting thru even on the links from Google

  82. Yep RD.

    Funny about those votes he did isn’t it? It gives you a very clear idea, at least when it comes to Joe & Joette that he could care less.
    Ayers his bud hates Joe & Joette. Really. He has some very bad allies, very bad indeed.

    hugs RD. & Co. and now for the videos…….
    very hard to see Hillary, very hard.
    I think a lot of people are very angry at what has happened to her —

  83. You know, this intrusion on Joe the Plumber’s privacy on Ohio state computers can be traced and prosecuted.

    Somebody needs to go to jail for this.

  84. RD & Co—- I just read this over at Uppity’s– it goes with yours RD and it is about people’s 401ks? I don’t have them, but some of you might–this is an important read because you need to know. She’s really smart about these things— like RD is.

    http://uppitywoman08.wordpress.com/2008/10/25/the-s-word-and-your-savings/

  85. Thanks for that song at the end RD. I needed that after seeing those numbers that made me cry.

    I think about Hillary’s heart a lot because she talks about it, and bless her heart, tomorrow is her birthday. I wish people would stop bashing her.

    She is doing what she said she would do: work her heart out for Obama. It was a promise. It’s odd to me that people who are peed-off at politicians who lie would be angry at someone who keeps her promise.

    We know why she has to do what she is doing. And she is doing exactly what she said she would do. DUH!

    I heart Hillary.

  86. […] Saturday: The Heart of the People is Resisting “…And it’s not like the party has done ANYTHING to reach out and appeal to us.  They haven’t apologized.  They humiliated Hillary and have her on the indentured servant circuit.  They have thrown out any reasonable solutions she has proposed on the financial bailout.  They screwed us over on FISA.  And Obama himself lobbied his fellow senators for the Paulson plan which forks over taxpayer money to banks and other institutions making us silent, non-voting partners in those same institutions.  The tycoons can spend that money aaaaannnnnyway they please, provided they pay the US Government dividends.  How they do it is completely up to them.  They can pay themselves handsomely, and they have and there’s not a single thing that Joe the Plumber can do about it.  Talk about spreading the wealth.  Obama *liked* this plan and made no effort to stop it or change it or propose policies that would make it better.  In fact, it’s worse than that.  He was all ready to vote on the first bill that would have given taxpayers *no* share in the banks.  All we would have gotten were some worthless assets.  Obama thought this was cool…” […]

  87. This is a pretty damning video that shows Gaddaffi endorsing Obama and some guys using their computers overseas to try and get him elected. Please watch and pass along. By now, there should be no one in America that isn’t educated about the fraud that is Barack Obama. But just in case some are yet convinced:

  88. That video was scary, why is it that the dictators of the world back Obama? And what do dictators like Kadaffi, who was involved in the crash of Pan Am 103, see in Obama that our government has missed? Under the Bush terrorism doctrine, Obama’s terrorist connections, like Odinga, should be raising so many red flags that he shouldn’t have been able to leave Chicago without the FBI tracking his movements; let alone run for any office!

    And I know the Berg v Obama court case isn’t discussed here, but it was dismissed October 24, 2008 and the ruling has a bearing on all that you are trying to do with this blog Judge Surrick has ruled that voters have “no standing” in filing suits against political candidates who do not meet eligibility requirements for president. Please read the ruling as it does indicate that we the people are merely observers rather than participants in this circus of an election and have no influence over the outcome if we have no right to “police the eligibility requirements under the U.S. Constitution” .

    I discovered the judge’s ruling when I followed a comment citing a connection between the Chicago law firm Sidley Austin where the Obamas and Dohrn worked together and Judge Surrick’s former law clerk who was also a employee at Sidley Austin. You may also find some interesting comments about this case at

    http://www.therobingroom.com/Judge.aspx?ID=698

    which is a ratings site for judges.

    So the bottom line is that Judge Surrick has interpreted the Constitution to give political parties that have
    “No Constitutional Standing” power to supersede the Constitutional Standing granted to We the People in Amendment 1 (petition the government for a redress of grievances – and Obama is a grievance) so, by extrapolation, voters attempting to prevent Obama’s election have “no standing” either.

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