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Conflucian Cocktail Party: Fundraising for Franken

The Wiki entry for the French Resistance includes this passage:

In retrospect, the famous résistant Emmanuel d’Astier de la Vigerie gave the image of the resistance having been made up of social outcasts on the fringes of society, saying “one could only be a resister if one was maladjusted.”[34] Although many did adhere to this description, including d’Astier himself, most resistance participants came from traditional backgrounds[35] and were “individuals of exceptional strong-mindedness, ready to break with family and friends.”[36]

Back in the Dark Ages of 2003-2004, Al Franken was one of those {perhaps maladjusted} individuals.  😉  When the whole country seemed to be in the grip of Movement Conservative fever, fear and retribution, Al Franken was the leader of the Resistance.  Along with a few other like minded individuals, he started Air America radio.  I used to record the televised version that would air on the Sundance Channel.  It was comforting to know he was there.  When Kerry lost in November 2004, Al was crushed.  He wept.  But bright and early the next day, there was a message on the Air America web site.  It said simply, “We’re here for you.”

A lot has happened in the last few years.  Air American was sabotaged from inside and outside forces.  It struggled mightily in the New York City market until its weak and staticky signal on WLIB was extinguished.  Now it’s something completely different.  But back in the bad old days, Al Franken was our rock.

Tonight, I’m dedicating the Cocktail Fundraiser to Al Franken, the wiseass running for Senator in the great state of Minnesota.  Hillary is a big fan and I think we can trust her judgment on this.  Al is a committed liberal, wicked smart and will bring a much needed sense of humor and determination to the Senate in what is about to be another dark period in our nation’s history.

Welcome to the Conclucian Cocktail Party.  The bar is to the left of the door where you will find our bartender with flair, Rico.  Tonight, his special drink is a Frosty Nipple (‘cos that’s what everyone’s got these days?). You can purchase a Causmo for $10.00.  Tonight’s Causmo is dedicated to Al Franken.

Tonight’s entertainment is from the Twin City’s Jazz Festival 2008.  Beseme mucho:

Ladies and Gents, I know I can count on you to use your best Minnesota manners.  But if the cold is addling your courtesy, check your trigger words with Florence, our lovely checkroom attendant. The waiters will be circulating soon with squeaky fried cheese curds and hot dish made with cream of mushroom soup.  Please Drink Responsibly and tip your wait staff generously.

Also, join me at 10PM EST for Conflucians Say on PUMA United Radio (PURrrrr).

228 Responses

  1. Riverdaughter,

    I grew up in the Midwest. I hate to admit it, but I still like “hot dish” with cream of mushroom soup, especially tuna noodle casserole. I still make it sometimes when I need comfort.

  2. OO — I’ll call in!

  3. I have always loved Al Franken, from his early days on SNL to his wonderfully heartfelt commentary on Air America. I was all ready to support him for Senate and scoured his website during the primaries to get a sense of his persuasion a la Hillary- never got an inkling. I don’t know where he stands right now on much, but have been disappointed that he never rose up to my knowledge to the injustices we have seen this election season- has he? I would be anxious to hear.

  4. I consider Al a down to the core true liberal, not this faux-liberal who spouts Liberatarian BS.

  5. KATIEBIRD!!!!!!!!! Please do!!!

  6. myiq2xu-
    about MO’s “Pretty” from the last thread…

    Myiq2xu-

    yes and thank goddess that she had her flannel Karl LagerFeld thong on or the ladies in Gville would have no imagination left!

  7. We are experiencing technical difficulties on blogtalkradio. Please stand by….beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep

  8. I am arlready on Al’s mailing list as a matter of fact. Started to send small donations almost a year ago.

  9. When Pat Buchanan spoke at the 1992 RNC all the other pundits were talking about how he was firing up the GOP base, and Franken is the only one who correctly noted that Pat was scaring the hell out of voters.

    As Molly Ivins commented about the speech, “It probably sounded better in the original Geman.”

  10. Franken is for Obie.

  11. Al tore Billo a new one at a book signing festival a couple of years ago. Billo sued him over the book he wrote and Al prevailed. Billo has had it in for him ever since.

  12. “Lies and the Lying Lie Who Tell Them” is fantastic.

  13. “Rush Limbaugh is a Big Fat Liar” is another.

  14. I can hear some saying hello

  15. Pat J: wasn’t the best part the little (rather gory) skits he wrote on Vietnam with Kerry in there?

  16. we have RD at connflu!

  17. Regency: I always thought that Al spoke the truth and added humor as an equal part of the argument. He also wrote the movie “When A Man Loves a Woman” starring Meg Ryan and Andy (be still my beating heart) Garcia which was based on his own marriage.

    God, I am just full of so much unnecessary trivia!

  18. awww, I miss Molly 😦

  19. Just had to post this for everyone here – 1% of french people support John McCain for President:

    http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/10/23/poll-percent-french-prefer-mccain/

  20. xyr:

    Good thing for McCain they can’t vote here, huh?

  21. Yeah, even a man who relishes underdog status can’t like ‘dem odds. Love the snark at this site, btw.

  22. kiki, on October 23rd, 2008 at 10:09 pm Said:
    awww, I miss Molly

    Ditto. Molly made me proud to be a Texan.

  23. Somebody conduct a seance. I want Ann Richards back.

  24. Loved and miss Molly!

  25. edwardian:

    Didja know that Molly was really a Smog Eater?

    Check her bio, she was born on the far left.

  26. Interesting…Germany’s Merkel leans towards Russia and slightly away from the US and Germany has Ostalgie romanticizing the era of communism in East Germany, Italy’s Berlusconi says on RAI that demostrations/sit ins will not be permitted at universities-students will be expelled etc., Austria’s successor party to the national socialists wins more seats than ever – wonder why they prefer Obama….

  27. What am I missing about his appeal?

    I’m out for the night. I have a big problem with this man.

  28. Carol- I agree- see my post above. i am a bit confused here.

  29. Edwardian, I didn’t know you were a Texan. I take back everything mean I’ve ever said about the state, just because you’re so nice. maybe God really doesn’t hate Texas???? it just seems to me that at any given moment there’s a drought somewhere in Tx and a flood somewhere else……a deadly heat wave somewhere and an ice storm somewhere else….a tornado here, a hurricane there.

    personally I blame the Bush family, and feel the rest of you are victims.. and they’re not even real Texans!

    I did love Molly. I like Jim Hightower too. it’s not fair that people, including me, judge the state by W and a couple of other assholes.

  30. Coming up on Greta: CNN admits that they distorted that National Review quote in Griffin’s interview with Palin. Hmmm…should be interesting. See? Protest does get through sometimes.

  31. As a Minnesota voter, a PUMA, and a feminist, I do not want Al Franken to represent me in the Senate.

    In early June, right after NARAL caved in and endorsed Obama, Planned Parenthood criticized Franken’s “Porn-O-Rama” article for Playboy (2000), in which he is serviced by women trained at the “Minnesota Institute of Titology.”

    According to the Minneapolis Star Tribune, Franken was quoted in a 1995 New York magazine piece brainstorming a comedy skit for Saturday Night Live that involved drugging and raping former CBS reporter Leslie Stahl and raping CBS reporter Mike Wallace.

    Also in the Star Tribune, commentator Michael Gerson reports that Franken told the Feminist Majority Foundation in 1999, “Why don’t we focus on what Afghan women can do? They can cook, bear children and pray. As I recall, that was fine for our grandmothers.”

    Very funny, Al.

  32. myiq2xu, on October 23rd, 2008 at 10:23 pm Said:
    edwardian:

    Didja know that Molly was really a Smog Eater?

    Not sure I understand. Are you referring to the fact that she was born in Cali? That I knew. But raised in the Lone Star. 😉

  33. I did not realize that Al was that much of a misogynist. Wow.

  34. Hi All!!

    what a downer of a day. Took my daughter out to lunch-in the trendy obot part of town and I felt like a boil on the butt of humanity in my jeans and tee shirt. Then my husband had on CNN tonight while I was in the other room reading and I heard part of Larry King’s supposed interview with Michael Moore-that sent me into the mother of all rants. Basically, we should all give Barack a chance. Oh yeah, with his finger on the button and the world at stake, lets give him a chance. My cat would also like a chance.

  35. Molly was born in Monterey, California because her family was out here (more than likely in the military). She grew up in Houston (her father was an oil executive and a Republican. She went to college at Smith, worked in New York City, and in a small midwestern media market (if I remember correctly) She eventually returned to Texas.

    She wrote an article about how she wouldn’t support Hillary (because Hillary was too moderate). Here is what she said:

    “I’d like to make it clear to the people who run the Democratic Party that I will not support Hillary Clinton for president.

    Enough. Enough triangulation, calculation and equivocation. Enough clever straddling, enough not offending anyone This is not a Dick Morris election. Sen. Clinton is apparently incapable of taking a clear stand on the war in Iraq, and that alone is enough to disqualify her. Her failure to speak out on Terri Schiavo, not to mention that gross pandering on flag-burning, are just contemptible little dodges. ”

    I read that the flag-burning bill was a ruse to stop wasting time trying to alter
    the Constitution. Basically, if your burning a flag could endanger someone nearby, you can be arrested.

    I think that Hillary has been freed to vote her conscience now. She opposed FISA. She takes solid stands.

    Franken has always seemed quite the sexist to me. He was an Obama supporter, too.

  36. I wanted Ann Richards for President. sigh. Molly could have been Press Secretary.

    Been a donor all season for Al Franken, but just gave some more to him and a few other Texas candidates from The Confluence Act Blue page.

    djmm

  37. To be fair, I checked just now to see if Al Franken has ever apologized for his antiwoman “humor.”

    Turns out he has. Here is the video from the MN Democratic convention:
    http://www.startribune.com/video/19631564.html?location_refer=Homepage

    So, I guess we will all have to make up our own minds about supporting him.

  38. Regency, on October 23rd, 2008 at 10:19 pm Said:
    Somebody conduct a seance. I want Ann Richards back.

    I could get back to you on that seance Regency. I have seance conducting experience.
    I love Ann Richards. Remember the Ann Richards ad our wife ran in Ohio?
    I wish Jackie O were still alive too. She would have endorsed Hillary, and probably called Michelle Obama out on her Poserism.

  39. Hillary is a true, FDR liberal. Not an anti-woman, liberal elitist like Obambi.

  40. Greta is so great. “CNN quit making excuses. Just apologize. It was wrong.” This was after Griffin did his best WORM about his gotcha interview with Palin.

  41. Little Isis, on October 23rd, 2008 at 10:49 pm Said:

    I could get back to you on that seance Regency. I have seance conducting experience.
    I love Ann Richards. Remember the Ann Richards ad our wife ran in Ohio?
    I wish Jackie O were still alive too. She would have endorsed Hillary, and probably called Michelle Obama out on her Poserism.

    Ann would have been right in the thick the caucuses with a cellphone and a foghorn. Jackie would’ve been warring with Teddy, me thinks. And she would’ve told Michelle that she wants her closet back. Just because you buy it from an auction at Southeby’s, doesn’t make you classy.

  42. Ann would have been right in the thick the caucuses with a cellphone and a foghorn. Jackie would’ve been warring with Teddy, me thinks. And she would’ve told Michelle that she wants her closet back. Just because you buy it from an auction at Southeby’s, doesn’t make you classy.

    Jackie O loved Hillary, our pantsuit wife. She adored her, and gave her advice all of the time. Ann Richards was Hillary’s friend and when she was changing her hair all of the time, Ann told her: “You have to decide.” I wish so much that she and Ann were still alive. They would have defended our wife and said, “What it is, America? What it is, DNC? What it is, Dr. Dean?”
    That is how it would have been. MO wouldn’t have even tried to impersonate Jackie O. Jackie would have impaled her with hairspray.

  43. Greta just said “should Palin have to release that portion about the birth of her children?” That is the email question to respond to.
    My question is “Why should Palin release anything about her children? Does Obama have to release his birth certificate?”

    Keeee-rist-mas

  44. fif, on October 23rd, 2008 at 10:52 pm Said:
    Greta is so great. “CNN quit making excuses. Just apologize. It was wrong.” This was after Griffin did his best WORM about his gotcha interview with Palin.

    I LOVE GRETA!!!
    In fact, I’m going to ask for her hand in Marriage. She will be my third wife. She will join Reg, the Pantsuited Femme, Big Dawg, The snow Hunk (Todd), Little Isis, ect in the nekkid War Room.

  45. Lil Isis did you see the pix of Hillary with the windy longer hair from a few days ago.

  46. LOL @ kiki! I understand. W really did a number on the perception many have of Texans. Eek!

  47. Regency, on October 23rd, 2008 at 11:01 pm Said:
    Lil Isis did you see the pix of Hillary with the windy longer hair from a few days ago.

    NO!!! Gimme the link!!! And in the meantime, read Isis the magick kitten’s chilling account of her run-in with an ACORN worker.

    http://isisfreakypolitics.blogspot.com/

  48. Hillary and her windy head of hair

    Look it, Isis, it’s the pantsuity one. If you’re not in that group, join it now!

  49. hey kiki! yehaw texas My carol diamonds lives there

  50. running virus scans so gotta go!

  51. xyr — you are a moron if you believe for one second that the French have our best interests at heart. If they actually like BO then that should be the #1 reason NOT to vote for him.

  52. Regency, on October 23rd, 2008 at 11:06 pm Said:
    Hillary and her windy head of hair
    Look it, Isis, it’s the pantsuity one. If you’re not in that group, join it now!

    WTF!!! My server isn’t letting me access the link!!!

  53. yeah Fuzzy & Edwardian……I think many of us have judged the state by the Bush family. I recently read a biography of them (masochist that I am) and found out they’re not even from there!

    so why don’t Texans kick them the hell out and salvage their reputation? 🙂

  54. angienc, on October 23rd, 2008 at 11:08 pm Said:
    xyr — you are a moron if you believe for one second that the French have our best interests at heart. If they actually like BO then that should be the #1 reason NOT to vote for him.

    (pouts).
    I love the French. But not for Political reasons. I just…
    I know, I’m weird.

  55. One of the best things out of Texas was “Lonesome Dove” and Larry McMurtry.

  56. I think the story of the woman who was attacked and branded is going to be on our local news after the commercial. I wonder what they’ll say…

  57. Little Isis, are you in that group. You must join!

  58. I’m in a foul mood tonight after seeing what happened to that girl in Philly & the reaction and disbelief of her story in places I did not expect to find it. We wonder why women don’t report abuse more often. I’m going to bed. Good night all.

  59. katiebird: Listened to the broadcast and heard you tonight. Sounded great!

  60. Alright, this election sucks, my husband just removed my free speech rights from my car (McCain Palin bumper sticker) because he’s worried I’ll get hurt because of the neighborhoods I drive through to get home. I’m not blaming him, I’m blaming Obots.

    This is beyond anything I could have imagined.

  61. Guys, Al Franken was, *is*, a writer of comedy. Sometimes comedy can be tasteless. The Afghan women comment is a bit misleading though. His wife Franny was heavily invested in their plight. I don’t think anyone should take that comment seriously.
    As for some of his jokes? Yep, completely tasteless. Yes, he has a temper. But he didn’t try to hide it. Running for any political position is going to be harder for someone who makes his living trying to make people laugh. Laughter usually comes at another person’s expense. But I truly believe that we can count on Al Franken when the chips are down. He’s been there in the past for us.

  62. Here’s the direct link to one of them: here

  63. yeah, J’adore le français too lil isis 🙂

  64. Little Isis — I love France — I visit every chance I get. However, if you think they should be picking our president then you are very naive — the French’s no. 1 concern is what is best for France, not the USA. If they like BO then you can bet that is because they think he is weak.

  65. I agree with you RD. Comedy and Comedians, as well as celebrities in general, aren’t meant to be taken seriously.
    Good call.

  66. Good night for real now.

  67. Angie, I am endlessly amused by these dolts who think the candidate the folks in France (or any other foreign country) “elect” is meaningful. I’m like, great. Let the French have him. Obama can become the new King of France. Good riddance!

  68. Fantastic Off-Broadway play was broadcast tonight on local PBS NYC area–Betrayed, by George Packard, a drama based on his iterviews and article about Iraqis who worked for the Americans and then were abandoned to their fates.

    Rebroadcast NYC area on Sunday: Ch. 13, Noon, and 10PM on WLIW, Long Island’s Public TV station.

    I hate the ambassador. It’s well-written, well-acted, very moving. To tears and to anger.

    Video clips available and links to review, more.

    I have no idea if this is being broadcast PBS-wide. Butk oh my, it is very good.

  69. {{{Pat}}} Thank you! I’m trying to get back in the loop. It’s really good to be back!

  70. Regency, on October 23rd, 2008 at 11:13 pm Said:
    Here’s the direct link to one of them: here

    oh… dat be a pretty pic…
    I don’t know what group it is though. The server completely blocked me.

  71. She looks so tired though…

  72. katiebird: It is wonderful having you back. Your voice has been missed.

  73. LI: It’s the Hillary Daily community.

  74. LI: Hillary looking Foxy

  75. LI: And a St. Patrick’s DayGRIN

  76. angienc: I work for the French. I {{love}} them. They are wonderful and warm people once you get to know them. They just see the world from an unAmerican point of view. That is, we’re not king of the mountain anymore.
    We can learn a lot from the French both from their success and their mistakes and they are comfortable talking politics and criticizing their own government as well.
    And they cook exceedingly well.
    So, lay off the French please. They’ve gotten a bad rap from the Republicans who tried to rope them into a war they knew not to be in anyone’s best interests. Personally, I hope the next president has a good relationship with the French. We need to import some raw milk cheeses. My source for good Reblochon cheese has dried up as the war has progressed. We need to end the raw milk cheese blockade.
    Free the cheese!!

  77. Regency, on October 23rd, 2008 at 11:17 pm Said:
    LI: Hillary looking Foxy

    Rrrr…
    Okay, I have to join dat group.

  78. RD- that may be, but why did he not come out for Hillary in the primaries, at least I never got that sense after watching his website closely. And he has never discused the fraud that we have witnessed. Have i missed something? As I noted in my early post, I have always been a fan, but was quite disappointed- has he lost his edge?

  79. xyr — you are a moron if you believe for one second that the French have our best interests at heart. If they actually like BO then that should be the #1 reason NOT to vote for him.

    Yikes. I think you misinterpreted my intentions. Check my handle again. You need not admonish me on this, believe me. I agree, it is all the more reason to vote McCain. I am glad that people here are not voting Obama and that many are actually voting for McCain and respect the commenters here. I have been lurking here for weeks. I was actually hoping to elicit some snark to make my evening more enjoyable as I have found you all to be very witty.

  80. That story was a waste of time the way they told it. You could hardly tell what they were talking about. I think I’ll spit on them.

  81. Riverdaughter,

    Al Franken is specifically a satirist. The jokes about the treatment of women should be interpreted in that light. He is definitely not a misogynist!

  82. Has anyone ever been polled on who we want to win an election in France?

  83. All things considered…

    Al Franken is no Paul Wellstone or Hubert H. Humphrey. (I lived in MN a couple of years, picked up a degree, have some feel for the state.)

  84. Free the Cheese! And please post that Potato recipe… 🙂

  85. Little Isis: And in the meantime, read Isis the magick kitten’s chilling account of her run-in with an ACORN worker.
    http://isisfreakypolitics.blogspot.com/

    Little Isis, ROTFL. What a great blog. Please let Isis the Kitten know that I’m using my paws and voting for McPalin

  86. Pat, yes! years ago a friend said “you’ve gotta read this book” – it was Lonesome Dove and she’s like “it’s about a cattle drive” and I was like “ummm, no thank you, I’m not particularly interested in cattle drives”

    she promised me something (what??? I can’t remember) if I honestly hated the book…..can you guess? I not only didn’t hate it, I LOVED it! a cattle drive book, who’d a thunk it?????

    Larry McMurtry rules. have y’all heard his son (James, I think?) sing?

  87. Regency, on October 23rd, 2008 at 11:18 pm Said:
    LI: And a St. Patrick’s DayGRIN

    She is looking right at me in that one. Our wife has the prettiest blue eyes I have ever layed eyes upon. Isis the magick kitten pawed that picature and meowed with happiness.

  88. Hello All,

    I won’t say much.I just wanted to share a quote with you that I found about the elections.

    “In 2008 there is no silent majority: there is the silenced majority. The unpolled majority. The media is so pro-Obama that the views and the concerns of McCain supporters are for the most part ignored or, at best, mocked. The goal is to foster disillusionment among them, a sense of isolation. To trick the Republicans into all staying home on election day because “there’s no hope of winning.” Maybe the Democrats can’t avoid a showdown on November 4, but if they can convince enough McCain supporters to individually “fold” and not vote at all, then Obama can carry the day.”

  89. I guess I need facts but I will be the first to apologize if my skepticism has been wrongly applied. This election has produced some pretty horrific accusations and I have learned to be a little less trusting. Chalk it up to age.

  90. Reminder: Hillary’s Birthday is this Sunday. So is Obama’s grandmother’s.

  91. Phoenix,

    I am going to edit your comment about me. I don’t know if you saw my response to you or not. I don’t want my name associated with what you said.

  92. Little Isis, ROTFL. What a great blog. Please let Isis the Kitten know that I’m using my paws and voting for McPalin

    Isis the kitten is pleased!!! She is glad her message is being spread around.

  93. Little Isis, on October 23rd, 2008 at 11:22 pm Said:

    She is looking right at me in that one. Our wife has the prettiest blue eyes I have ever layed eyes upon. Isis the magick kitten pawed that picature and meowed with happiness.

    I meowed with happiness too. Love that grin and those eyes. She makes me happy.

    Oh, and something to aspire to: Hillary behind the Seal

  94. kiki: The same here. I was sent the book in error and it sat on my shelf for months as I thought it was just a book about cowboys. When I picked it up I was reading for hours and finished it in about 3 days. Naturally nothing got done but I loved that book. The Bonfire of the Vanities was another one I could not put down. Up until all hours reading. And I had to work in the morning!

    As a result I looked like Morticia.

  95. Liberty: No wonder she sympathizes with Hill. Happy birthday, wonderful women.

    I’m planning a good post for that day.

  96. lilliam: I can only speculate on why he didn’t come out for one or the other candidate during the primaries. The same can be said of Linda Stender. Candidates are in a very precarious position. They don’t want to offend any presidential candidate because they know they are beholden to the party who can yank their much needed GOTV resources. So, they stay neutral. It’s regrettable. And afterwards, they are obliged to support the party’s nominee. But you can tell which ones are Hillary people. They tend to sneak issues like reproductive rights and abortion on their act blue webpages. Obamabots do what the party tells them to do and carefully scrub those issues off.
    Like I said, Franken was there for us. He was one of the few well known people who didn’t just stick a ribbon lapel pin on his jacket. He committed to be a beacon for the liberals when we thought liberals were gone forever. He stuck it out, invested his own time and money and took it to heart. No matter what you think of the guy’s comedy, that strong mindedness and courage speaks very well for him. He walked the walk.

  97. Pat and Kiki, I loved Lonesome Dove but hated Bonfire of the Vanities. For me it was two totally different experiences.

  98. There’s that glorious laugh, Vintage-90s-style

    Okay, no more Hillary photos. Daylife.com has tons of pics of her from the campaign.

  99. Regency, on October 23rd, 2008 at 11:25 pm Said:
    Little Isis, on October 23rd, 2008 at 11:22 pm Said:
    She is looking right at me in that one. Our wife has the prettiest blue eyes I have ever layed eyes upon. Isis the magick kitten pawed that picature and meowed with happiness.
    I meowed with happiness too. Love that grin and those eyes. She makes me happy.
    Oh, and something to aspire to: Hillary behind the Seal

    Just seeing picatures of her cheer me up. I cannot wait to see her behind that seal for good.

    Oh, Regency, I am excited for your Hillary birthday post. I will have to do a post on my bloggity blog as well. have you seen my new blog??? ( I have two now)

  100. Riverdaughter, I have to thank you for including me in tonights show. It was a wonderful experience.

    And now — a nice glass of my favorite boxed Merlot!

  101. Pat, same here about Bonfire. funny you brought it up because I saw it in a used book store the other day and was trying to remember why I found it addictive. I remember that I did, but not much else about it.

    I read a lot less since I have the internets thingy………..sigh………

  102. Ladies and Gents, we prefer it if you checked words like “moron” at the checkroom with Florence. It ruins the scintillating conversation at a cocktail party. Would you mind?

  103. Regency – I thought the same thing – Obama even admitted during the primaries that his Grandmother liked Hillary. Ditto – Happy Birthday to both women. I have a feeling she was the glue that held Obama’s family together throughout his young life.

    I look forward to your post on Hillary’s birthday.

  104. Regency, on October 23rd, 2008 at 11:29 pm Said:
    There’s that glorious laugh, Vintage-90s-style
    Okay, no more Hillary photos. Daylife.com has tons of pics of her from the campaign.

    Oh, that is the best one yet. I have just joined that community, so I will have a look at more.

  105. Has anyone ever been polled on who we want to win an election in France?

    I’m sorry. I guess I should have identified my background or said something to the effect of “can you believe this”…… I’m a right leaning feminist male from CT (actually not a R anymore, reregistered as unaffiliated). My girlfriend is a left-leaning feminist PUMA. I just thought I’d link to the story to get some witty comments from y’all. I’ll try to be more candid if I post in the future since no one here knows me. I didn’t mean to stoke anger.

  106. aaahhhh man – I was just about to say that I think Barack Obama is a moron…. now I have to think of something else.

  107. Kbird: You really shouldn’t feed my ego. The Confluence has turned out to be exactly what I expected: a collection of some of the best writers around. I know that I leave it in good hands when I go to work in the morning and always have something to look forward to when I come home. I couldn’t do it without you and the rest of the bloggers.

  108. The problem I have with Franken is that he told Katherine (his former co-host) on the radio that he wouldn’t have filibustered Roberts. I know that makes him no diferent from anybody else in the Senate, but that’s the problem.

  109. I love listening to the Conflucians on blog radio. You all sound like you appear in my head.

  110. Lil Isis: I have seen your new blog. I just visited it to read what Lil Isis Magick Kitten had to say. I love it. You always have the best layouts. They’re so you despite the fact that they’re so different.

  111. riverdaughter, on October 23rd, 2008 at 11:33 pm Said:
    Kbird: You really shouldn’t feed my ego. The Confluence has turned out to be exactly what I expected: a collection of some of the best writers around. I know that I leave it in good hands when I go to work in the morning and always have something to look forward to when I come home. I couldn’t do it without you and the rest of the bloggers.

    RD, this is a great blog, and you should be proud of yourself. No ego feeding, it’s the truth.

  112. RD — excuse me, but I don’t think you realize to whom you are speaking — I am not “laying into the French” by any means. I have a mother who was born & raised in Athens, Greece. I have spent every summer for the first 25 years of my life in Europe and I would venture to say I know a lot more of France & the French then you do. I also grew up in New Orleans (which has a lot of people of French heritage) & I am fluent in French. I {{{love}}} the French too, and certainly do not need to be condescended to by being told how “warm and friendly” they are individually. I am pointing out how ridiculous it is for Americans to allow other countries to influence whom we elect as President. Saying that should not subject me in anyway to being compared to the Republicans and their propaganda against the French & that stupid “freedom fries” bs. I realize this is your blog & you may certainly ban me, but I believe you owe me an apologize. I’ll wait and see what you do.

  113. XY: It’s cool. Nice to meet you.

  114. hi angienc !!!

  115. hi afrocity!

  116. Regency, on October 23rd, 2008 at 11:36 pm Said:
    Lil Isis: I have seen your new blog. I just visited it to read what Lil Isis Magick Kitten had to say. I love it. You always have the best layouts. They’re so you despite the fact that they’re so different.

    Well, blogger can be a pain in the a*& but I like it better than wordpress. Actually, I just put up those two blogs yesterday or the day before, because I had to scrap my other little Isis blog. Last night the bff and I carved pumpkins for the first time in our lives (sad, I know), so tomorrow morning I will have a post on my other blog with picatures from my pumkin carving extraveganza.

    Uh oh. Isis the kitten is attacking my ankle now. She is demanding more foxy Hillary picatures.

  117. So, when Hillary goes gray, she will look like this and I say more power to her.

  118. Chicago is getting ready for the party…sigh. This is difficult

  119. I’ve carved exactly one pumpkin and that was in pre-school. I’m doing it at school though. College is the time for everybody’s first time at something.

  120. xyRinCT: I think I can talk about the issue of the French supporting Obama. First, they absolutely HATE Bush and the Bush Republicans. They think he’s really screwed up in Iraq and put the whole Caspian sea region in jeopardy and they need oil like we do, just not as much. And they think Americans were stupid to vote against their own best interests. Trust me, even Nicolas Sarkozy is more left that any of our left wing Democrats. We are a conservative nation compared to France.
    the French I work with, including my boss who just became an American citizen 2 weeks ago, liked Hillary Clinton very much. They thought she was well qualified to be president. But they were in a news bubble like all of the rest of America. They don’t know about the primary caucus fraud and delegate manipulation, at least not in detail. Ironically, the asians, who follow this stuff obsessively, know *exactly* what is going on. Maybe it’s because corruption is more familiar to them. But the French see Obama as a breath of fresh air compared to a Republican.
    One of my colleagues was in France last weekend. She said a lot of people are interested in the election but they aren’t showing much of a preference now. They’re just curious and watching and waiting. They don’t really know much about McCain except that he’s a Republican. So, the reponse to Obama has less to do with Obama and more to do with him not being a republican.
    Sorry your ex-party made such a mess of things. Now it’s *my* ex-party’s turn to screw things up. Let’s hope they don’t get a chance.

  121. angienc,

    I’m sorry I ever linked to that story! Don’t go! It’s all my fault and I’ve posted like 5 times here. 😦

    I found the local Parisians quite friendly on my one trip there, although I had some less than gracious encounters with some on the service industry. I agree completely with what you have said re: their interests vs. ours. I think RD just wasn’t happy with you calling me (or anyone else) a m0r0n, but I’m okay with it – quite frankly I am sometimes (heck, I voted for Bush, though NY still went for Gore so it didn’t matter). Oops, I shouldn’t have said that. I lost all credibility here before I even earned any. Sounds like BO huh?

  122. Regency, on October 23rd, 2008 at 11:43 pm Said:
    So, when Hillary goes gray, she will look like this and I say more power to her.

    Regency, can I run something by you??? You know our wife has been blonde for several years now and has not bothered to entertain us by changing her hair for at least… what, nine years?
    Well, I was thinking a few months ago that she should change her hair again when this election is over, for a fresh new image/start.
    I was thinking she should dye her hair dark/reddish brown. I think that would look so pretty.
    Like, you know, this color:

    http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2301/2066382985_b79b62e293.jpg?v=0

  123. angie, who is disbelieving the story about the girl who was attacked? The faux feminists?

  124. Regency, on October 23rd, 2008 at 11:44 pm Said:
    I’ve carved exactly one pumpkin and that was in pre-school. I’m doing it at school though. College is the time for everybody’s first time at something.

    Oh!!! It was so much fun pumpkin carving.

  125. Regarding France, the wine from Cahors is divine! If anyone should have a bottle, please post it in your next comment… It would be most appreciated!

  126. Seriously,
    Just now on FoxNews, I heard BillO and his co-people were hesitant about believing the story about the girl who was attacked.

  127. angienc: I do not owe you an apology. I think you owe it to the rest of us to please not call visitors morons. This is a cocktail party and we are trying to be polite.
    As for how much I know about France, while I do not speak the language with any fluency, I am occasionally required to go on business trips there. When I go there, I work like any other French employee of my company. I ride the trains, attend meetings and do my business in French. My email at work, both here and there, is in both French and English. My CEO holds chat sessions in French. My job is protected by a French union. It isn’t necessary to condescend to anyone on this blog. We’re all pretty well educated, either by college or life, and we travel. Bubbas we may be but savvy ones.

  128. Lil Isis: Like, you know, this color:

    http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2301/2066382985_b79b62e293.jpg?v=0

    MSNBC would just off the air from everyone’s head exploding on air. She shows cleavage, they lose their ish. She changed the part in her hair and they nearly died. I’ve been thinking red too actually but I didn’t think she’d do it for fear that they’d never shut up about it. It’d be like cleavage, no one would be looking at her, just the hair.

    “Hey! My eyes are down here.”

  129. xyR — I’m not leaving because of you. In fact, I didn’t say I was leaving — I admit I’m in a foul mood tonight & sorry if I came across as harsh to you or misunderstood your intent. My problem isn’t with you.

  130. *sigh* I guess one can’t post a bottle in a comment, only text…..

  131. Oh, here is Hill as first lady of Arkansas:

    http://pics.livejournal.com/soturi78/pic/000gzxff/s320x240

    Is that little Chelsea with her?

  132. You can take Hillary out of Wellesley but she’ll always be a Wellesley woman.

  133. This is moronic:

    Ladies and Gents, we prefer it if you checked words like “moron” at the checkroom with Florence. It ruins the scintillating conversation at a cocktail party. Would you mind?

    Tasteless jokes. Gotta love them.

  134. Little Isis, I’ve gotta tell you, as a woman of about Hillary’s age who has been coloring my hair forever, I really like dark/reddish brown and colors like that, but roots are a major constant problem, and gray roots are the worst when you try to go a little darker. I’ve given up the battle, and have decided to stick with various shades of blonde. it’s so much easier.

  135. LI: That is indeed the wee Chelsea.

  136. Ironically, the asians, who follow this stuff obsessively, know *exactly* what is going on. Maybe it’s because corruption is more familiar to them.

    Not a fair presumption at all. Maybe they’re more interested in current events and read more.

  137. I was being sarcastic, btw. Just to be clear.

  138. MSNBC would just off the air from everyone’s head exploding on air. She shows cleavage, they lose their ish. She changed the part in her hair and they nearly died. I’ve been thinking red too actually but I didn’t think she’d do it for fear that they’d never shut up about it. It’d be like cleavage, no one would be looking at her, just the hair.
    “Hey! My eyes are down here.”

    Wow!!! Wouldn’t that be an entertaining day at MSNBC?
    I would just favorite every clip of Chris Matthews screaming in rage/lust over her hair change and watch them over and over again.
    Pah!!! Now I want her to change her hair again. Maybe she should do it on election day, just to distract all of the pundits from declaring BO the winner at three in the afternoon.

  139. I recall being interviewed by a French TV crew outside the Marriott after the DNC RBC Meeting on May 31st, and being asked what I thought, “Now that it’s over”. I quoted Yogi Berra, saying, “It ain’t over ’til it’s over”, recounted all the things that had yet to happen, and possible scenarios.

    The French TV crew also asked how I felt after the DNC RBC decision, and I said, “Comme ci, comme ca”. (Sorry – I don’t know how to make the appropriate accent marks on the keyboard.) They really liked that statement. Guess I was too tired to have the presence of mind to ask for their card or to ID their media outlet to find out if I ever made it on the French TV news (although I did try an Internet search when I got home later). C’est la vie. Je suis desolais. Bonsoir.

  140. xyRinCT: We’ll say you are in recovery. However, you should be aware that we are mostly Democrats or Independent leaning Democrats and are unrepentant progressives or liberals. Read the Credo tab at the top. I think most of us agree with those principles. Most of the PUMAs who are voting for McCain are not doing it based on issues. It is a protest vote. We don’t know what Obama’s political persuasion actually is, we don’t like his meteoric rise or his corruption of the primary season and we sure as hell don’t like to be called racists.
    Just so you know that you’re sleeping with the enemy now.
    We have no illusions about McCain except he probably won’t wet himself during a major crisis. That’s the only comforting thought of this whole ordeal.

  141. Pardone moi. Some of my French spelling may be rusty, but bonsoir mon amies.

  142. On the plus side, two great things have happened in the last several weeks of the presidential campaign: The New York Yankees, despite their bloated, unfair payroll did not make the playoffs. Furthermore, them damn Red Sox lost, thus giving a new team a chance!

  143. “Just now on FoxNews, I heard BillO and his co-people were hesitant about believing the story about the girl who was attacked.”

    Have we gone through the looking glass? Now Billo has higher journalistic standards than the MSM cultists who pushed the fake Nuremburg rally story for weeks?

  144. Regency, on October 23rd, 2008 at 11:55 pm Said:
    You can take Hillary out of Wellesley but she’ll always be a Wellesley woman.

    That one made Isis the kitten knock over a pill bottle filled with my mother’s prozac in excitement.
    She loves the picatures of our pantsuit woman and becomes so excited about them. She explained to me that Hillary is some kind of woman. And being raised by a woman (me) it makes her puuurrrrr to see Hillary.

  145. Britannia: I can only speak of the ones I know personally who have told me that they follow politics in their own countries like they follow sports teams. They are very knowledgeable about current events, it is true. I dunno, maybe it’s just that I work with some very smart people from all around the world. But I have noticed that the asians were not taken in by Obama like the French were. Most of them smell a rat.

  146. RD, do you seriously think that the Democratic Party today is the same it was a year ago? Two years ago? Obama is being endorsed left and right by Republicans–bad ones at that–and spares no chance to praise the Reagan deity. The conservatives are Party Invariant and now that they have screwed up the GOP’s brand they now seem to be on the path to f-ing up the Democratic Party as well. That’s what they do. Honestly, do you think Andrew Sullivan would support so strongly someone that is on “our” side? Really?

  147. Tony Rezko is BACK….in campaign ads. I’d love to be a fly on the wall while Rezko is singing. Saw this link on Sugar’s blog:

  148. I thought that was the tack you would take –Distraction from the issue of my complaint with you. I used the word “moron” flippantly, it is true, but I didn’t call anyone a moron — I said a person is a moron if they believed. I did not say xyR was a moron. Nonetheless, my use of the word “moron” is not the point of what I wrote to you — you said I was attacking the French, which I most certainly was not. You were the one being condescending to me by explaining how “warm and friendly” the French are “in person”– as if I did not know. Now you are saying I’m being condescending? How was I being condescending? By explaining to you that I {{love}} the French too, that I’ve traveled to France quite often? By explaining the reasons I was not attacking the French as you accused me of doing? (And for the record, I did not mean it as a contest as to how many French people you know compared to me). Furthermore, you actually compared what I wrote to the Republican machine’s propaganda attack on the French — and you admonish me for not being polite? You haven’t answered one thing that I have said to you. You have refused to acknowledge your impoliteness to me. Am I not a guest here? I am smart enough to guess by your treatment that my presence is not welcome, and that is fine, but please lets keep the facts straight.

  149. gqm: At this point, I don’t care where the Democratic party is. MY principles haven’t changed. After this election season is over, we have to work at ridding ourselves of the libertarians and Dean Democrats. I know the party isn’t what it was even a couple of years ago. Why the fuck do you think I’ve been blogging incessantly since January about it?! For my health? My messy house? Please. The PUMA goal is to make sure Obama loses so we can rebuild. If he wins, it will be much more difficult.

  150. angie: Please drop it. I don’t want to ban you but this dialogue is going nowhere.

  151. xyRinCT, I’m sorry, I wasn’t being snarky, I was actually curious if anyone had been polled about a foreign country’s election. It seems weird that anyone would pay a polling agency to poll people in Europe about our elections or vice versa, especially before an election. After, maybe just in the interests of international relations, but before seems like a waste of money.

  152. I am sitting here following the comments and would only add one more thing: we all do not necessarily agree with each other on every subject being discussed. We all come to this blog ready made. Our life experiences, education, interests, may touch one another now and then but we are actually individuals and we react accordingly.

    There have been occasions where someone has taken offense however it should be noted that we are basically people of passion who use this outlet as a form of expression. The fact that we do not always see eye to eye is a good thing in itself since it does merit discussion and leaves room for individual thought. Simply because an opposing view does not meet the standard of one does not mean it is not valid.

    A total embrace of one line of thinking is cultish. This blog could never be accused of that. Free speech has its limits to some extent but courtesy and civility have always been the mainstay. We will never all agree in totalality because of who we are. This is foremost and provides some interesting back and forth.

  153. angienc, Yes, I know. The incident with the female McCain staffer has upset me and my significant other too. I’m just not terribly big on conflict and I really don’t like when I’m the cause of it (even if indirectly). I don’t think RD was trying to offend you and I don’t believe you were trying too mean (I’ve read much worse on blogs) so I hope this just blows over. This election has really done a number on everyone. I guess that is why I don’t talk politics with people in person, except for the 2 friends I have who are not supporting Obama. Speaking of which, my significant other was wondering about writing in Hillary in MA, but its unclear to us whether that will count for Hillary or BO – does anyone know? The MA SOS’s site is sort of ambiguous I think.

  154. I hearby appoint Pat Johnson Secretary of Protocol.

  155. The continuing endorsements of Obama by Republicans is actually rather comforting to me because it actually confirms what McCain has consistently said: he is not at all loved by his party and certainly not by his base. The more establishment people flock to BO, the more clear it becomes that he really is not advocating any substantial change in the status quo. Plus ca change….plus les meme chose

    (s’il vous plait, pardon my pauvre francais! Je suis seulement un bitter clinger sans illumination d’Obama)

  156. I can’t speak it but I can read it:
    “if you please, pardon my poor French. I am only a bitter clinger without Obama’s illumination (enlightenment? holy light?)”

  157. Everyone’s touchy today. Good thing my nephew has “Breakin’ 2” on in the background.

  158. gq
    “..breakin’ 2..”

    LOL!

  159. RD, it seems that the libertarians, the GOPers, and the Dean Democrats have really infested the Democratic Party. Given that the media doesn’t report on what happened in the primary, how are we to fight back? Seriously, every day I find more and more people who have no clue that Hillary received more votes than Obama. Most people don’t believe that.

  160. We’ll get through it. We always do. And just think, if Obama manages to wangle, cheat, and buy his way into the White House (please God, no) we will have 4 years of unleashed “snark” to play with. Think of it: we may get good enough to put this show on the road!

  161. jvsp, my nephew watches that stupid movie all the time. I was more of a “Beat Streat” fan at that time. But that was when I was 5 or so.

  162. LI: If you read the comments at Hillary Daily you’ll see how many other girls like us are crazy about her too, kittens and all.

  163. I think there should be a rule that anytime an argument gets “personal”, the offending parties have to take a shot. My recommendation for the shot is a concoction that my friends and I made up called a “Dirty Altman” (named after one of our friends: Gin+tequila+creme de cassis.

  164. Isn’t that “Breakin’ 2 – Electric Bugaloo?”

  165. During the primaries Obama said, “Senator Clinton and others, they’ve been fighting some of the same fights since the 60’s, and it makes it very difficult for them to bring the country together to get things done.”

    Who can be surprised he’s endorsed by Republicans. He’s been shouting loudly and clearly he will work with them. Goodness knows we shouldn’t be fighting the fights of the 60’s.

  166. Regency, on October 24th, 2008 at 12:23 am Said:
    LI: If you read the comments at Hillary Daily you’ll see how many other girls like us are crazy about her too, kittens and all.

    I have been reading them for the past five minutes. They amuse me so. All right. I’m tired and I’m logging off. I just rented Super Mario Galaxy and my Wii is seducing me to play it before I go to bed. Good night all, and stop fighting, or I’ll hug you to death.

    (((((((((((((((((hug))))))))))))))))))).

    😉

  167. iq, yup.

  168. gq
    “..’Beat Street’…”

    LMAO! 🙂 I’ve been hankering for a “ghetto blaster” of late, but break dancing is no longer possible…

  169. I need a job and a few significant others. Ya’ll are supposed to be cheery on these cocktail party threads.

  170. I forgot to get that wine. I accidentally did the dishes instead. (running off)

  171. gqm: Ewww, that sounds wretched. I invented my own drink I call the Desperado.
    Ingredients:
    Lower shelf tequila
    Kids lunch box juice

    To prepare, find a dirty glass next to the sink. Fill it halfway up with tequila, add enough lunch box juice to mask the flavor. Ice optional, if you can muster the energy to raid your freezer for it. Make sure it smells funny. Stir listlessly with index finger. Sit in a corner with Pink Floyd in the dark with a candle as your only light.

  172. Ah, jvsp, break dancing is always possible. Just get yourself a nice big piece of cardboard. The back-spin is something we can all do, more or less. Though I’ve come to realize that I can no longer head spin and windmill like I used to back in the day.

  173. gqm: Didn’t the “shock the neurons” gig work out? You could have imagined them belonging to someone you don’t like.

  174. Oh, Riverdaughter!! STOP drinking that right now!

  175. rd,

    The thing about the “Dirty Altman” is that it has the potential to be not too bad. We ordered it as a joke once at a bar and it wasn’t too bad. Subsequent attempts haven’t been as successful. My guess is the first time was heavily skewed toward the creme de cassis to sweeten it up.

  176. RD – I know the political leanings of the members here – I’ve been lurking for some time. I have no problem with liberals, in fact, on social issues I am most certainly a liberal. I just came of voting age during 2000 and bought into the compassionate conservative Bush crap and was disillusioned by the impeachment debacle so sort of found a home on the right. We see how that turned out the past 8 years. And I would probably say as far as economic and foreign policy goes I am more conservative than liberal (I am not happy about bailing out banks, though I think Hillary/McCain’s HOLC idea is the way to go). So really, I am like you all – without a party. I’ve always had a feminist streak in me, and since meeting my significant other who is studying women/gender studies, I have been more sensitive to issues like those discussed here. So I have found the Confluence to be a very enlightening blog to read (which is pretty much daily now)!

    Seriously – sorry, I misunderstood your comment. From a practical standpoint, it does seem like a somewhat useful bit of information to have (what people in other countries think about our election) but that really shouldn’t play any role in our decisions and it does seem odd for US polling agencies to pay money to generate the polls. I wonder how much of the $21 million BO spent on foreign polls. He probably funded these polls so he can say to everyone here “see, the French love me” without ever stopping to think “would the French loving me be a good thing for my campaign”? That’s probably why Fox was more than happy to report those results.

  177. Kbird: I drank the last beer and all I have left is a bottle of Absinthe that tastes like licorice flavored turpentine.
    I haven’t had a Desperado in years and oddly enough, I just refuse to get depressed about this election year. It will set in eventually but I’m just having too much fun right now.

  178. RD, I decided to switch career paths. Post-doc wouldn’t have been hard to get (everyone likes cheap labor) but I chose another path. I have been pestered by a prominent bay area biotech company to apply–and would get nicely compensated–but, alas, I have this strange desire to go into the nonprofit sector. Its amazing how little a PhD in biophysics amounts to in this area.

  179. gq
    …I can’t find my parachute pants… ..but I do have a bourbon [] to keep me “spinning” so to speak

  180. gqm: I think there is a non-profit working on Huntington’s Chorea. I can’t remember the name of it though.

  181. rd said: “I can’t speak it but I can read it:
    “if you please, pardon my poor French. I am only a bitter clinger without Obama’s illumination (enlightenment? holy light?)” ”

    Yes, I have (un)fortunately remained unblessed by the beaming light of illumination from “the One g-d has blessed us with at this time.” I guess I’m stuck with my regular Jesus instead of the new and improved Obamamessiah version.

  182. I don’t want to do bench work, RD. I’m tired of it. I’m not necessarily interested in science non-profits.

    Hey, don’t you have to wake up in like 4 hours?

  183. gqm: Um, yeah, 4 hours is about right. Somewhere between now and then, I have to dream of another morning post. It’ll happen.

  184. RD: Oh, Good. I panicked for a second. I should have known better!

    I wonder if there will be a post election depression for me. I sort of think I went through that last summer. At this point there isn’t a candidate speaking for me (Maybe Nader) — certainly no one with a chance of winning.

    Remembering my drunken rage the night Carter won (who I voted for but hated) I sort of think I shouldn’t risk drinking on election night. Just in case.

  185. I’m outtie, folks. Have a couple DVRd episodes to get home to.

  186. Does that mean you’re leaving gqm?

  187. I invented my own drink as well – ok, not so much invented as, well, bought from the store. Its called a Miller High Life from a can. Its something I partake in when I stay up late, bitterly clinging to my guns, religion and interweb.

  188. Oh, I saw the eggnog is back. Super yummy served hot with a shot of Meyer’s rum and a sprinkle of nutmeg if you are feeling like being fancy about it.

  189. Sorry about ‘yummy’, I spend a lot of time in the company of a 4 year old.

  190. Hey Regency and LI! You guys are doing me IN with those pictures. Yummy. I promise not to ask for time with the Pantsuited beauty for at least another week if you lay off on tempting me so much, okay?

  191. Oh yeah, drinks.

    A lovely Tasmanian Sauvignon Blanc for me please – I was just visiting down there and they are brilliant if you ever get a chance to buy some.

    But I don’t really want to donate to Al so am I allowed to count last week’s donation to Democrats for Principle before Party?

  192. Speaking of tequila and juice boxes, I had one for breakfast. Great way to start the day, but I always have problems getting the tequila in the juice box through that little straw. Usually it takes me until about 1:00 and then I call it a day.

  193. xyRinCT, yeah, he probbaly did pay for it. it still seems like a waste though, you don’t have to hate France to roll your eyes at the thought that the preferences of people in other counries would influence anyone’s vote–but hell, Obama apparently thinks it’s an effective gambit to threaten the electorate with upheaval if he loses (see Carville, James), which is even more unlikely to be effective. I’d love to see the reaction of people in France if one of their politicians started running on, “My approval ratings in America are sky high!” though. lol

  194. Prolix! 😉

  195. Seriously: my approval ratings in America are sky high!

    Oh, I’m sure that would be most helpful.

  196. Nice pics. Nice butt. 😉

  197. Okay, when do I get her again?

  198. Scrubs: [response censored for those of a sensitive nature] and then after a few more nights of that, you can have her.

  199. Sweeeeeet, Regency. But I’m probably going to have to fight off LI first. Hmmmmmm, how can I distract her? Maybe I’ll offer her Sarah.

  200. Scrubs, she’s got Sarah in her closet. She’s wearing her boots as we speak.

  201. To think, all I wanted to do was link to a humorous story for some patented Confluence snark, and I got roped into actually posting and basically confessing as repentant Repub. and a born-again independent. I should probably change to xyIinCT, but originally I when I posted I didn’t want people thinking I was a lifelong Dem like most of you all here just for clarity.

    Seriously – “My approval ratings in America are sky high!” though. lol” Ha – I am sure that would go over real well. Though they did elect Sarkozy who was known to be more pro-west than most French. Anyway, once BO becomes Global President, the French will have their wish. After that happens, maybe the US will secede from the Global Alliance and elect Hillary. With how ineffectual he is, the US would be poised to regain its economic edge.

  202. Regency:

    Captain Spaulding thanks you for sparing his sensitive nature.

  203. Well, Regency, it’s going to have to be a duel then. In 3 nights? You might be a bit worn out by then, though.

    😉

  204. Shoot, I didn’t realize Spaulding had a sensitive side!

  205. Teleprompter Jesus has bigger goals than global president.

    He won’t stop until he’s galactic overlord.

  206. scrubs:

    Sociopathic clowns have feelings too!

  207. Too funny, myiq.

    Gotta go run some errands.

    Hope angie is okay.

    I’ll watch the wee hours again later, dudes.

  208. Scrubs: Monday at high noon and not a moment before. However, you can come to the birthday party on Sunday and stay till midnight.

  209. I’d vote for Senator Government to become Galactic Overlord. Maybe if we can convince him that such a position exists, he’ll suspend his campaign for President. We’ll tell him that the people of France choose the GO, so him and his commericals should head over there stat. That’s the ticket.

    Do you think the French get Obama’s digital cable channel? I bet if they did, McCain would have a heck of a lot more support over there than 1%.

  210. They told Maximillian and the Empress Carlotta that the Mexican people wanted him to come and lead them.

    The Mexican people had other ideas. They stood him up against a wall and shot him.

  211. Aslong as it’s not Galactic Overlord of this galaxy. Blast off, Barack! Other galaxies are thirsty for hope and change! Gaius Baltar is coming too.

  212. Hillary for President.
    Laura for Vice President.

  213. Palin denies accepting $150K in designer clothes

    ORMOND BEACH, Fla. (AP) — Sarah Palin is blaming gender bias for the controversy over $150,000 worth of designer clothes, hairstyling and accessories the Republican Party provided for her, a newspaper reported Thursday.

    “I think Hillary Clinton was held to a different standard in her primary race,” Palin said in an interview with the Chicago Tribune posted on the newspaper’s Web site Thursday night. “Do you remember the conversations that took place about her, say superficial things that they don’t talk about with men, her wardrobe and her hairstyles, all of that? That’s a bit of that double standard.”

    Palin, who is John McCain’s vice presidential running mate, said the clothes were not worth $150,000 and were bought for the Republican National Convention.

    Most of the clothes have never left the campaign plane, she told the newspaper.

    “It’s kind of painful to be criticized for something when all the facts are not out there and are not reported,” Palin said.

    “That whole thing is just, bad!” she said. “Oh, if people only knew how frugal we are.”

    Note the last sentence.

  214. AngieNC, Riverdaughter: I’m an outsider, but please can I interject something here – you are both on the same side, but are disagreeing on one issue. I’ve seen this in the Ron Paul blogs. Something or someone creates a divide which creates people who agree to disagree vehemently and then things start to fall apart.

    Please, I’m begging, do not allow differences on one issue destroy the overall objective. There are people out there who intentionally fan the flames to create divisiveness to break up the movement.

    It appears to me that you disagree on France, but it really has nothing to do with what you are trying to accomplish here in the U.S. and that seems to be that you both want a fair voting process.

  215. Come January, that kinda talk might get you the same fate. Unless, of course, people wake up. I am hoping my 18-29 year old demographic stays home like Gallup is suggesting. Someone should have planned a national beer pong tournament that day.

  216. Supposedly “they” found the assault victim’s twitter messages ( rummage, rummage ) and all the “theories” are being made. ..not going to provide links (despicable), but you can find em…

  217. nv swing voter – I wasn’t fanning the flames, really I wasn’t! My original post just linked to the Fox news report of the poll of French people with no real commentary on my part. All three of us were on the same page I think. It was just a rough day for them both I think and everyone was over-sensitive. I hope all will be well tomorrow. I’m okay with being banned from posting if that helps quell tensions.

  218. Once again, loving Sarah, Brit. HRC should hire her to be her press sec. in 2012, she’s done a damn sight better brininging this stuff up than anyone on our side.

  219. jvsp, I don’t think it would be as upset by “them” if they’d just come out and admit they’re thugs and anyone who opposes them is going to get the Nixon treatment. It’s the moral gloss, the fact that they think they can do anything amd be justified because of the “hope” that bothers me even more than the thuggery. I’d love to ask anyone who lived under a totaletarian regime if the true believers had the same kind of delusional malice we’re seeing here.

  220. OMG, Sarah as press secretary would be so ironic, lol! In her daily briefings she should give the press lectures on how to do their jobs well.

  221. New post up

  222. My last comment is in moderation!

    Tro11s are hijacking the last post about the girl who was assaulted.

    Clean up is needed starting at 11:54!

  223. Reading this article…I think I read that we can trust Hillary’s judgment on Al Franken. If that is the case…can we also trust her judgment on obama? I have stated several times..Hillary has more info on obama than we ever hope to have. Her campaign has throughly checked his backgound and she has pushed all that aside for the sake of the party. What is more important in all of this…Country or party? To me what happened to Hillary by obama is the same as abuse. All he did ..as well as the media..was abuse her. She fell down and got up for more. Now after she got up for more…she made a decision to choose the party as corrupt and nasty as they are. I could not choose the party…there is a country and my morals at stake here. Are politicians so out of touch that they are not aware of Acorn…of people being mistreated …of cars and people being assaulted? Or..is this the America we shall now be a part of?

  224. Great photo of my two favorite Dems!

  225. This is a very late addition to the thread, but I would like to add that in my interactions with French family members and friends, I have not heard any pro-Obama sentiment. My mother-in-law said she would have loved to have voted for Clinton. (Of course, the French loved Bill.) Other friends expressed serious concern that Obama would be a very weak president and could cause a lot of international problems.

    Riverdaughter is right when she points to the anti-Bush feelings on the part of the French, and that is probably is spilling over into the current race.

    Finally, my grandfather-in-law, a truly inspiring man, fought for the French Resistance. He was captured by the Germans and escaped by jumping off of a moving train. He was not a social outcast, just a courageous individual who had the inner strength to keep fighting for his country.

  226. “I am hoping my 18-29 year old demographic stays home like Gallup is suggesting. Someone should have planned a national beer pong tournament that day.”

    LOLOL…indeed. I take heart from the fact that your slacker cohorts were the same ones that were supposed to save the day for Kerry. And we all know how that worked out.

    Not calling you a slacker, mind you. We have the same kind of “mixed marriage,” btw, I’m a liberal anti-Obama PUMA and my bf is a moderate but loyal Republican. This is the first election where we’ve been on the same side!

  227. I agree with you betty

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