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  1. We all know why she got passedover, the question is whether we can stop this woman from being passed over.

    I may not agree with all of Palin’s positions, but I respect her, and as a feminist, I will support her with all my ability. This can be a proud time for women in America. I sincerely hope that my sisters and feminist brothers will rise to the occasion.

  2. This woman is smart.

    People should read Byron York’s article that was so completely distorted; I genuinely like Sarah Palin.

    I’m proud to have cast my early vote for her and McCain…and I am sad to see her family and herself go through so much SHIT.

    I can’t get over how badly they’ve treated her, and compare that to Hillary…Pure crap.

    If I live to the age of 90, I will NEVER forgive or forget uhbama’s use of race and misogyny against Hillary Clinton.

    She is the real Presidential candidate.

  3. Well Sarah,
    The Democratic Party felt they needed to select a candidate who was a pathological liar, meglomaniac sleaze factory, demagogue, shit head, dirty Chicago politician because they wanted to make the world a better place.

  4. I am becoming more and more convinced that had Hillary not been in the race the outcome would be the same. Obama was “hand picked” and they would have stopped at nothing to clear his path. It was worse this time because Hillary was a woman and they used every sexist tactic to eliminate her.

    But I think they would have done the same to any other male politician because the goal was to make him the nominee.

  5. I never believed Sarah Palin was dumb and I don’t think liberals really believe that either. It is a way to diminish her accomplishments as a governor and as a woman who has moved up in the political world in a rather short amount of time. Ironically, the same thing can be said of Obama but no one on the left would dare allow any criticism of his record without mentioning the word r@cist. I’m a liberal Democrat but I don’t believe Roe v. Wade will be overturned under McCain and I will not buy into the people trying to float around the scary idea that McCain is soooo old that he could die! McCain is healthy and I’ll take my chances that he won’t die in the next 4 years.

  6. And the DNC was brilliant to have Obama pick Biden as presidential regent.

    Sarah, It’s not the votes, it’s the money and the young voters that Obama will

    Unfortunately for the money part, Obama goes through it pretty fast and little trickles down ticket.

  7. The bit about Biden as presidential regent was meant as ironic.

    Addendum: “not the 18,000,000 votes,” its the money….

  8. They not only passed over over her , from the top candidate on down , they scorched , abused , defamed , libeled , slurred , and smeared her , and hunted her down and condemned her as if they were spanish inquisition and she was a heretic.
    They are now doing the same thing, from the top candidate on down , with even more venom ; to Sarah . bo doesn’t want a “girl” to beat him.
    But one already did, so he cheated, and ” this one ” is going to beat him no matter how much he lies and cheats .

  9. A Militant Pioneer-Susan B. Anthony

    Susan B. Anthony was the first militant suffragist. She has been so long proclaimed only as the magnificent pioneer that few realize that she was the first woman to defy the law for the political liberty of her sex.

    The militant spirit was in her many early protests. Sometimes these protests were supported by one or two followers; more often they were solitary protests. Perhaps it is because of their isolation that they stand out so strong and beautiful in a turbulent time in our history when all those about her were making compromises.

    It was this spirit which impelled her to keep alive the cause of the enfranchisement of women during the passionate years of the Civil War. She held to the last possible moment that no national exigency was great enough to warrant abandonment of woman’s fight
    for independence. But one by one her followers deserted her. She was unable to keep even a tiny handful steadfast to this position. She became finally the only figure in the nation appealing for the rights of women when the rights of black men were agitating the public mind. Ardent abolitionist as she was, she could not tolerate without indignant protest the xclusion of women in all discussions of mancipation. The suffrage war policy of Miss Anthony can be compared to that of the militants a half century later when confronted with the problem of this country’s
    entrance into the world war.


    I don’t know how to bold or I would. I have decided I am about women. 54%

  10. Yes, the death thing. WTF is with that?

    It’s okay to hypothesize (ooh ugly spelling, there) McCain 6 feet under pushing up the daisies. And then OMG– we’d get Sarah Palin. Who is articulate, intelligent, confident, witty, has executive experience, a track record which garnered her the devotion of the majority of her state.

    But, we can, we can’t , we mustn’t, we shouldn’t, we have to, oh my god hillary said a dead kennedy’s name!!!!!!!!!!!! So Obama’s going to be picked off any moment because he’s black? NO, NO, NO!!!! Okay, so he isn’t in any danger, so we can relax about Hillary having said RFK’s name? NO, NO, NO!!!!!
    Well, which the F is it? Is Obama in danger? If so, shouldn’t we be looking at the tool who is a “heart-beat away” for the Presidency. Biden, the walking idiot? The man who the majority of Americans say
    f-no to everytime he’s tee-ed off for the big job in the big house? The man who dems say “no Joe” to?
    The man whom repubs keep a “gaffe clock” on?
    This schmuck is okay to be President? In what alternate universe is that a true-ism?

  11. I’m starting to love this woman more than I should be loving any Republican. She’s like the sage cutting through the DNC and media bs.

  12. amgelasmith, from the last thread, Ayres dedicated his book to Sirhan Sirhan. So good thing Obama can do whatever he wants, or there’d be a problem there.

  13. “Why did the person with 18 million votes get passed over?”

    Because a black man is higher up on the minority hierarchy, and the DNC/media elites want to feel all fluffy about themselves more than they want universal health care for all the poor people and minorities they feign to care about.

  14. 3,000 academics sign pro-Ayers petition…

    Suppose one of the terrorists from 9/11 survived and somehow got off on a technicality… Would you hire him to a university position to teach? Would you even want to be associated with him?

  15. what Seriously said !

    I read about her back in June because Hillbuzz mentioned her as a possible running mate. I liked what I saw then though I do not agree with all her personal beliefs. She’s got moxie, she’s a mom and she’s going to break that ceiling.


  16. I like this woman. She inspires me more than BO ever did; inspiring in much the same way that Hillary was except without Hillary’s encyclopedic knowledge of issues, etc. The more I hear her the more I am aware of just how tone deaf and biased the MSM is.

  17. In a country with a history as murderous as ours, I’ve always marveled at America’s capacity to accept presidential election results without violence, no matter how acrimonious the struggle may have been. How lovely to witness an election year when the threat of violence is trotted out as a not unlikely outcome should a certain candidate not prevail. How lovely to see widespread verbal and visual images of violence towards women accepted almost without comment.

    I will be voting against so much this year.

  18. “Why did the person with 18 million votes get passed over?”

    Because she doesn’t have a penis.

    Why is the media trashing Sarah Palin while ignoring the glaring problems with Obama?

    Again, because she doesn’t have a penis.

    Anyone who wants to pretend this isn’t the reason is lying to themselves. I am proud to be a part of stopping this b.s. by casting all my votes this year for women — McCain/Palin on down the line. Party affiliation means nothing to me anymore. In races were both candidates are women, my vote will go to the Republican woman just as an extra F.U. to the DNC & Obama.

  19. i just wrote and posted and it didn’t show up. is there the beginnings of a problem?

  20. well, that post showed up. i’ll try to repeat what i wrote.
    the reason obama is not showing better in the polls is he unfairly stole the election for more than half of the dem voters. no wonder he can’t close the deal in the polls. the dem party left us. why should we vote for the selected one? i and my vote still have integrity. more than i can say for obama, biden, brazile, pelosi reid, etc ad nauseum.

  21. angie: long before “inexperienced” was a r@cist code word, “qualified” was a code word meaning “has a penis.” This is well documented and the pissy thing about it is that the author is Gloria Steinem (newly converted Obot as of 6/2008).

  22. Sic transit gloria steinem.

  23. I would be proud to have Sarah Palin as VP or as POTUS, if, God forbid, it should be necessary for her to step in. She is so much more inspiring to me than Barack. I do disagree with some of her positions, but I respect her ability to represent all of us. Such courage for those women who stand up beside Sarah Palin across party lines and across traditional litmus test talking points.

    As you may guess, McCain and Palin will get my vote on 11/4. I so wish I could have cast my vote for Hillary, but never will I vote for Obama.

  24. My Obot father used to say Clinton was “too wonky,” and he voted for Obama because his lack of policy expertise would make voters more comfortable with him. Funny, though, that Obama’s inexperience and lack of knowledge was a positive since he does not feel that way about Palin.

  25. Sophie — Gloria drinking the kool aid was the hardest one for me.

  26. RD, we should perhaps talk about Drew Griffin on CNN distorting Byron York’s article and misquoting him to Palin in his interview in another attempt by the MSM to smear her. He didn’t even who he was quoting and intentionally left the part of the quote to distort it. Shame on him and CNN. How do we hold these incompetent and malicious journalists accountable?

  27. I thought the interview tonight with Palin and McCain was a very good interview for them.

    My father and I had a discussion tonight about Palin being a heartbeat away from the presidency. I asked him just what Obama had done to qualify to be the heartbeat of the presidency and he couldn’t answer me.

    And off topic….Andy Martin has dropped a bombshell. Unfortunately he doesn’t present any proof to back up his claims.

    Mountain Sage

  28. Mountain Sage — I didn’t see the McCain/Palin interview, but it should be no surprise that CNN reported that the atmosphere was “tense” between them, they had “no chemistry” and it was like “two strangers forced to sit next to each other.” Keep on believing your lying eyes.

  29. From the last thread:

    Holy sheep shit!

    On “Deal or No Deal” they guy had two cases left (one was his) with $1 and $1 million and the offers was $416K

    He said “No Deal” and guess what he won?

  30. “..chemistry…”

    And Obama and Biden, what is their “chemistry?” Why do Mc/P need “chemistry?” Who has ever cared before? Unbelievable!

  31. myiq — $1.

  32. btw — I never got the attraction of that show.

  33. Did you hear about the “art” exhibit in NYC that encourages a participant to “Shoot” Sarah Palin?
    The art called a “Photo Op with Sarah Palin” features cardboard cutouts of Palin and her daughter Piper are set against a mountain, with the Alaska governor kneeling behind a slain caribou.
    Tuesday, October 7, 2008
    VIDEO: More of the art and Hear from the Artist
    By Paul Westcott
    National Correspondent

    Visitors can don a fake-fur vest and hold a cardboard rifle to pose with the vice-presidential candidate and her daughter.

    The artwork called “A Photo Op with Sarah Palin” opened last month at the Brooklyn Waterfront Artists Coalition.

    Artist Dawn Robyn Petrlik says humor is sometimes the best way to deal with serious issues like images of the governor celebrating her kill. The artist says the sight bothers her and clashes with Palin’s “pro-life stance.”

    The piece costs $12,500, but getting a picture taken is free.

  34. One thing I like about Sarah is she doesn’t bullshit.

    She was honest about opposing gay marriage during the debate with Biden.

    I don’t agree with her, but I like the way she was upfront and blunt.

    It was “This is where I stand, deal with it.”

    I prefer that to lying and weasel-wording.

  35. Angie, Mountain Sage, those exact words “tense” and “no chemistry” came from Brian Williams and Chucky Todd this afternoon on Tweety’s show where they were promo’ing the spot for the evening news. The words actually came from Keebler Elf Chucky T — they were gratuitous and were meant to give Tweety something to chirp about.

    These people are like small birds feeding on one another’s regurgitated gruel.

  36. Angie:

    The attraction is watching them trade a sure $416,000 for $1 like the guy tonight

  37. The previous offer was over $600,000! God knows Thanksgiving is ruined for his idiot brother and sister.

  38. myiq — do you mean to tell me if you had a 50/50 shot at $1 million you would take the $416k?

  39. HELL YEAH!

    Molly Ivins called it the first rule of loaves.

    “When offered half a loaf, take it!”

  40. Now if we were talking sex, GO FOR IT!

  41. You’d take the chance of going home with $1 and having everyone in America mock you, angie? 🙂

  42. angienc….I didn’t see it that way at all. I thought they were very in sync and relaxed. But what do I know, I’m just a bitter gun clinger. 🙂

    Mountain Sage

  43. As for Deal or No Deal…I would take the $416,000 in a New York second.

  44. Who am I kidding, I would have taken the $416k myself.

  45. Mountain Sage — I didn’t believe it when I read it — it is all part of the new meme that Palin is a drag on McCain’s ticket. Obama really is using the Rove playbook — Joe “loose lips sink ships” Biden is a drag on his ticket, so they pretend that Palin is a drag on McCain

  46. myiq — who is talking about sex?

  47. They should be producers on Days of Our Lives rather than work for NBC News. There they can judge chemistry. And there it’s probably relevant.

  48. Seriously — I always likes the Young & the Restless myself.
    btw — am I the only one who is taking forever when I try to refresh?

  49. “In races were both candidates are women, my vote will go to the Republican woman just as an extra F.U. to the DNC & Obama.”

    angienc, that was classic. You are gold!

  50. Obama has raised projection to an artform.

  51. Battlecat — glad you liked it — cause I mean it with every fiber of my being.

  52. I’m sure I’m at the end of this thread, but I’ve never seen Hillbuzz before: http://hillbuzz.wordpress.com/2008/10/22/people-sure-have-gotten-creative-this-campaign-season/#comments

  53. *sighs* For the first time, I wish we had some Republican candidates on the ballot. LOL

  54. Ok gang, I don’t know if it is my computer or the site, but the refresh button is driving me loco. It is time for bed anyway. Good night my sweet PUMA family.
    myqi — if you are still here — I’ll see you soon in my dreams!

  55. If you could bet $41.60 on a 50/50 bet to win $100 it would be a good bet statistically.

    But betting $416,000 when that’s all you have on a 50/50 bet to win a million is foolish.

  56. angie: And I’ll be watching you on hidden video

  57. Night angie.

  58. I do like Sarah Palin. Her accomplishments as Governor far outshine anything
    Obama has done, and he is at the top of the ticket. Palin should take us on a video tour of Obama’s district, stopping off at Rezko slums.

    I loved Hillary, have admired John McCain for his convictions, and have never felt so negative about a Democratic Presidential
    ticket. Even Dukakis was more thrilling. After I cast my ballot for the first Republicans I’ve ever voted for, I’m going to
    reregister as an Independent. I’ve had it with the Pelosi, Dean team.

  59. “Palin should take us on a video tour of Obama’s district, stopping off at Rezko slums.”

    I bet she would, too. Girl’s got gumption. 🙂

  60. hillary and obama would have been a good ticket, they’d keep each other in check

  61. Seriously:

    “Girl’s got gumption” is an understatement.

    She would roll the dice on $416,000 and smile if she lost.

  62. Hillary doesn’t need Obama. And what Obama needs no one could provide.

  63. A conscience?

  64. That would be a good ad for some kind of religious institution, “Come meet the sole entity who can keep Obama in check.” 🙂

    *sighs* She has that tough fearless thing down to a T. While Obama whines and cowers in his bunker, Sarah strides right up, takes down a guy who rushes at her and charms three protestors. lol

  65. LOL Reg. She’s tired, but she’s still got it!

  66. Hillary’s the Democratic Fairy but she can’t produce a conscience out of thin air.

  67. Sarah, however, can turn a monster into a mastermind.

  68. Regency
    “A conscience?”

    LOL!!! I was think a soul… either way he is hopeless. Run for your lives!!!

  69. Newt Gingrich much?

  70. Sigh. They nominated the guy with 18 million votes. Yes, the nomination process was unfair. Yes, the caucuses were a disaster. Yes, Hillary got trashed by the entire media – and still got 18 million votes. Yes, Obama, at best, is likely to be Carter II.

    But, depending on how the votes are counted, Obama also got about 18 million votes. At most, the two candidates were separated by a couple hundred thousand votes.

    In short, we got the worst candidate if one is a liberal Democrat – but it is not as if Obama were a million votes behind. He wasn’t.

    As for Hillary, in one sense I’m glad she’s out of it. The media would have tilted toward McCain if she had been the candidate. And the country is in one heck of a mess, and Hillary’s job would have been made doubly hard because of the immediate & constant abuse she would have been subject to no matter what she did.

    Obama has the press in his pocket and that will help, unless he proves to be a perfect incompetent – which I’m not ruling out. In short, he will have more than a 100 day honeymoon and the value of that honeymoon in these circumstances may be invaluable.

    It will, at best, be a Republican-lite Administration which pains me. But I look forward to the day, and it will happen, when the media finally turn on Obama.

  71. Hatin’ Palin She’s not the reason Americans can’t stand their politicians.

    The abuse being heaped on Sarah Palin is such a cheap shot.

    The complaint against the Alaska governor, at its most basic, is that she doesn’t qualify for admission to the national political fraternity. Boy, that’s rich. Behold the shabby frat house that says it’s above her pay grade.

    Congress has the lowest approval rating ever registered in the history of polling (12%!). She isn’t the reason polls are showing people want the entire Congress fired, with many telling pollsters they themselves could do a better job.


    Hello everyone .. I managed to read all posts today & all comments .. ;))) .. what a Fantastic Group ..!!!!!

  72. And .. this one .. lol

    Biden Clarifies Earlier Remarks on His Dread of an Obama Administration


  73. “In short, he will have more than a 100 day honeymoon ”

    Well, if he wants to call the amount of time he’ll be spending sulking back in Chicago after he loses a honeymoon, he’s welcome to. But considering his work ethic, you’re being optimistic with 100 days.

  74. RD: Palin asks a dam’ good question. And I beg to differ with those who think that if Clinton had not emerged as a the only real threat to Obama the DNC would have gone after whoever else might have. Howard Dean has being grinding an ax about Senator Clinton for years.

    One only needs to observe the utter silence about the revelations regarding Sen. Edwards’ major hypocrisy to know that the DNC had a double standard for a female candidate who dared to challenge the man they preferred.

  75. Since I’m feeling feisty and am up late, I have been posting at http://tdg.typepad.com/heidi_lis_potpourri/

    This crowd might enjoy the two most recent posts.

  76. I don’t think this had a thing to do with Obama and everything to do with Clinton. Obamamania only developed because he was seen as the most viable candidate to knock her off, if it hadn’t been him anyone else would have done just as well.

  77. Seriously, on October 23rd, 2008 at 3:39 am:

    Exactly right in my opinion.

  78. Watching the video (after reading the transcript) I think that Sarah still needs to work on her timing in delivering such speeches but the words themselves were absolutely brilliant.

    So happy I checked that box next to her name (and all the downticket V@ginas).

    How come the spam checker doesn’t put us into moderation if we write the p-nis word?

  79. Another magnificent set of posts, Heidi. Me thinks it won’t take 17 years for these worn and weary former Dems to get their independence and get their party back.

  80. Because it is the glorious phallus. However could it be deemed offensive?

  81. Sleepy time for real now. Got a test tomorrow.

  82. H.!i I drove 3hrs and 42 min to this rally and took a friend an o/dem voter who was converted by the guy in line just ahead of us!!! . Sometimes it takes more than a friend. The crowd was well behaved and had all age groups and i was pleasantly surprised as the 20 somethings were giving each other high fives as Sarah spok and the 30 and 40 and 50 asn 60 and 70 somethings were all there! I had my HILLARY sign overlaid with a “MC-Palin” in-set and was greated with “Are You a PUMA??WELCOME!!! The Media says you don’t exist. Welcome…… I HOPE WE ALL COME TO ROAR.

  83. Night Reg. Sweetest of dreams.

  84. Great story, susansaysso. Wish I had been there. Sort of reminds me of when I went out to hear the Big Dawg speak at the capitol in Columbia, South Carolina when he was first running for Pres. Beforehand I was thinking a bit about him, mostly “who is this cheeky guy?” After he spoke, I was absolutely HOOKED and have never ever doubted the Clinton family since.

  85. LOL Apparently, tro lls are more likely to use v agina than penis. Go figure.

    Night Reg.

    Heidi, I’ll never forget how Obama was one of the most unpopular people in liberal blog land, right up until he looked like he could take out the Unclean.

    susan, that’s awesome, what did the guy in line say?

  86. I dunno. I’m voting for McKinney and Clemente. I live in a state (TN) that’s a shoo-in for McCain, and it’ll be nice to vote for a ticket with two women on it.

  87. angienc, on October 23rd, 2008 at 12:44 am Said:
    “Why did the person with 18 million votes get passed over?”
    Because she doesn’t have a penis.
    Why is the media trashing Sarah Palin while ignoring the glaring problems with Obama?
    Again, because she doesn’t have a penis.
    Anyone who wants to pretend this isn’t the reason is lying to themselves. I am proud to be a part of stopping this b.s. by casting all my votes this year for women — McCain/Palin on down the line. Party affiliation means nothing to me anymore. In races were both candidates are women, my vote will go to the Republican woman just as an extra F.U. to the DNC & Obama.


    we are singing the same song sister. The horrific misogyny that has been accepted and embraced by the democratic party and the msm this season has, in turn, been seen as acceptable and embraced by all the fired up youth that has been indoctrinated by the obama campaign. I fear for the future of this country and more importantly for the future of my daughters.

  88. Seriously, I see that CDS is at the heart of Obot spouse’s fervent support. “We had a good thing going and Clinton screwed it up by getting a BJ and getting impeached!” After ten years that misplaced fury hasn’t died down. Sad.

  89. Hi, The guy in front of us at the Sarah Rally and by the way Sarah said they were expecting 35 hundred and 7,000 showed up! yah! We were just comparing notes on the character of O and came to similar conclusions and from different sources. There was no metal detector entrances as were with the “cocktails with HILLARY” EVENT BACK IN mAY IN Orange County, Although there were numerous security folks. I needed a day or two off and Loved the thought of seeing Sarah in person. WE were in the way back…….. I was however fortunate enough at the Hillary meeting to be in front row and it was Beautiful.

  90. We had a good thing going? We had an unbroken string of failed Presidential candidates until Clinton came along and screwed THAT up. lol Honestly, when Republicans say “Democrats hate success,” well, yes we do, but not in the way you mean. 😉

  91. Ugsome – so Michelle is pissed off that Bill got a BJ?

  92. Listening to this speech and comparing it to the media coverage of SP, seems like they are not talking about the same person.

  93. Pretty much hit that old nail on the head, James. It’s all about the penis, you know.

  94. angienc, on October 23rd, 2008 at 1:17 am Said:

    myiq — do you mean to tell me if you had a 50/50 shot at $1 million you would take the $416k?
    Whew angie, glad to see – later post – you would decide on taking the money! Because your expected value ((1/2)*$1 + (1/2) * $1,000,000) is $500,000.50 and you’re being offered close to that for sure.

    What would have made it interesting is to be offered, say, $150,000 for sure.

  95. Seriously, on October 23rd, 2008 at 3:39 am Said:

    I don’t think this had a thing to do with Obama and everything to do with Clinton. Obamamania only developed because he was seen as the most viable candidate to knock her off, if it hadn’t been him anyone else would have done just as well.

    This has more the ring of authenticity to me, than the story that Hillary had to go because of Obama. I agree with seriously, that Hillary had to go in many Democrats eyes. I have many Democrat friends who felt that way – too much baggage was the common complaint. They couldn’t separate Hillary from Bill, and – as brilliant as Bill is – I think it was (in hindsight, of course) a mistake for her to use him in her campaign.

    The messianic fervor developed later I think.

    I can see why some people would be (positively) fervent about BO. But elevating a politician to the status of savior is foolish and dangerous.

    I am not as sure as others here are that the reaction against Hillary by Democrats has been s*xist in its entirety, although ther’s s*xism enough for it to be very ugly. I think it was mainly gut dislike of Hillary, and what many Democrats feels she stands for.

    There is little doubt that much of the venom directed at Sarah Palin is s*xist in nature. It’s also foul, disgusting, and probably criminal in many cases. But you can see why some people behave in a foul, disgusting, criminal manner – Palin challenges BO’s popularity in the most direct and visceral way.

    What, do you think, the polls would be if Palin were the Presidential candidate, with McCain as her running mate? My guess is 3% -4% ahead by now.

  96. That is a tough one to answer, urge. Some of it may have been Hillary (+ Bill) but that doesn’t explain how ferocious the attacks on Sarah have been. To me, that alone proves that it is sexism more than anything specific to Hillary.

    Many of my friends and family have that Obama adoration that I just don’t get. Especially my family – we were all raised the same way, taught objective reasoning and all – they just refuse to see any of the bad stuff. It’s positively baffling to me.

  97. I have a nagging feeling, that if this woman, Palin doesn’t make it into the White House now, I won’t see any other woman within reach in my life time (and I intend to live long). It’s just how dark I see the effects of this man.
    Poor Biden is trying to warn us, but who’s listening?


  98. I think the decision to push Obama had to do with winning and getting rid of the Clintons. They didn’t think Hillary would win – believing in their dislike of her and Rove’s – “too many negatives.” Getting rid of the Clinton’s was a power grab. They picked Obama because of his star potential.

    I agree with this comment as to the result of that thinking:

    angelasmith, on October 23rd, 2008 at 12:09 am Said:

    Well Sarah,
    The Democratic Party felt they needed to select a candidate who was a pathological liar, meglomaniac sleaze factory, demagogue, shit head, dirty Chicago politician because they wanted to make the world a better place.

  99. Can anyone make sense of the polls. From bloomberg.com:

    he AP poll, taken over five days following the candidates’ final debate Oct. 15, shows Obama with 44 percent support and McCain with 43 percent backing among likely voters. Similarly, an Investors Business Daily/TIPP poll shows the race tightening to a 4-point Obama advantage.

    Other polls give Obama a wide lead.

    A Fox News poll taken Oct. 20-21 has Obama ahead by 9 points with a margin of error of plus or minus 3 points. That means as much as a 6-point spread is within the error margin.

    So…the FOX poll doesn’t even sound accurate to me with a 6-point spread within the error of margin. Also, is FOX doing this on purpose? You’d think their polls would reflect a more conservative audience. It’s just odd that their poll would have Obama at a wider lead than other polls. I see these polls as a good sign. Zogby can say Obama is 12 points ahead all he wants but I’ll believe these three polls above before Zogby. It seems like the race is at a dead heat favoring Obama by a few points.

  100. Morning all -Hillary 2012 something I can get behind…

    Obama as minority liason to Focus on the Family thats an Obama I can believe in!

  101. stirring the Obama is anti gay pot again !

  102. I think pushing Obama was indeed a power grab and an attempt to bring down the so called “Clinton” machine and replace it with the Kennedy/Kerry machine.

    In attempting to bring down the Clinton’s the sexists were unleashed and now they are running rampant through our media and our country trashing all things female as they go. Can’t put that genie back in the bottle and they don’t really even want to.

    Sexism in this country is wide and deep and just wasn’t talked about very much. Not when the objectification of women is so very profitable to the penis people.

    From the hooker on the street corner to the girls flashing their boobs for a camera, to the bimbos on the big screen and in our music who prance around nearly nude, women are objectified and used. Unless women themselves see that and put and end to it, nothing will ever change. And as long as they attack and revile other women, they are part of the problem.

  103. kenoshaMarge, don’t you love the way that Palin can talk about women’s issues directly without batting an eye. She’s not afraid of alienating the sexists in the crowd. And she’s not alienating. Palin power!

  104. It was both the anti-Hillary sentiment within the Democratic party which felt that the Clintons had “stolen ” it by making it more centrist. (moveon’s statements about having paid for the party and gotten ti back echo this) coupled with the blatant and inherent sexism which is reflected in the rest of our society. How many articles have been written about making it to middle management as a woman (equivalent to senators and governors) but very, very rarely to the CEO position?

  105. Sarah gets it. I hope the women of America were listening to Sarah – and good for her for bringing up and defining feminist issues.

  106. I think the Dem Party “selection” of the least qualified, least capable candidate is going to be the biggest disaster a political party has ever made. I also think it was done out of hate and hubris – the boyz – the loser “leadership” – just could not cope with the Clintons’ – real leaders for real Americans.

    I think it all goes to JUDGEMENT……the boyz/”leadership” – piss poor, meager, stingy and really short sighted(jeesh – what a understatement).

    It’s that judgement that I can not tolerate nor put/keep in office anyone who participated actively in the foisting of this cipher. We all have to make our own decisions – we as voters will live by it – they as a defunct party will also have to live by their judgement. IT has been bizarre from the very beginning of this campaign – never once have I read or seen any action to justify the total waste of a complete, supreme candidate as Hillary Clinton in favor of the BZero. What I felt in the beginning has been solidly confirmed – the Dem/DNC is unworthly of trust or confidence for any D issue I have. So be it.

  107. Boo Radly, So be it indeed!


    by logistics monster

    We Clinton Supporters and bloggers have been viewing the death of the
    Democratic Party through the lens of a coup or hostile takeover by its liberal
    left wing. We witnessed in disbelief as our party became the party of
    violence, sexism, misogyny, racism, thuggery, theft, corruption, caucus
    fraud, and voter registration fraud.

    Before casting a vote, Centrist Dems and all other Americans must stop
    looking at the current Democratic Party through the perception they have of
    what the Democratic Party once meant.

    that party was dead and buried on may 31, 2008

    This is not your grandmother’s left wing (or maybe it is). What is now being
    uncovered is that the takeover of the Democratic Party is being
    orchestrated by a group of people with socialist/marxist beliefs, with a pinch
    of fascism sprinkled in—being led by a hand picked, groomed and marketed
    messiah under the guise of “progressivism”—with a belief system that
    states the ends justify the means. This may also explain why well over 90%
    of the African American population is voting for this candidate, and though
    some of it has to do with his race, more may be because of his socialist

    barack obama is that hand picked candidate

    Hillary Clinton was systematically destroyed by the “Democratic Party” in
    the primaries. We may debate her strengths and weaknesses as a
    candidate, but not being part of the ‘master plan’, she was quite simply

    On the other hand, Barack was spoon fed his current core beliefs for
    decades, and is a willing participant in the downfall of America as you know
    it. The candidate who has shattered all fund raising records, is now deeply
    in political debt to his radical associations.

    It’s time to understand where this “alien” democratic party is heading with
    Obama in the foreground and his numerous radical socialist/marxist
    associates in the background.

    let’s start with a history lesson :

    Democratic Party:

    When political alignments first emerged in George Washington’s
    administration, opposing factions were led by Alexander Hamilton and
    Thomas Jefferson. In the basic disagreement over the nature and functions
    of government and of society, the Jeffersonians advocated a society based
    on the small farmer; they opposed strong centralized government and were
    suspicious of urban commercial interests. Their ideals—opposed to those
    of the Federalist Party — came to be known as Jeffersonian democracy,
    based in large part on faith in the virtue and ability of the common man and
    the limitation of the powers of the federal government. This group of Anti-
    Federalists, who called themselves Republicans or Democratic Republicans
    (the name was not fixed as Democratic until 1828), supported many of the
    ideals of the French Revolution and opposed close relations with Great

    Progressive Party:

    U.S. independent political party. The first Progressive Party, known as the
    Bull Moose Party, was organized in 1911. The second was assembled in
    1924; it nominated as its presidential candidate Robert La Follette, who
    received 17% of the national vote on a platform calling for a
    “housecleaning” of executive departments, public control of natural
    resources, public ownership of the railways, and tax reduction. The party
    dissolved upon La Follette’s death in 1925. The third Progressive Party,
    founded in 1947 by Henry Wallace, differed from the previous groups in its
    focus on foreign affairs; it favoured a conciliatory policy toward the Soviet
    Union. Though Wallace received more than one million votes in the 1948
    election, the party was never again influential.


    The term “progressive” is today often used in place of “liberal“. Although
    the two are related in some ways, they are separate and distinct political
    ideologies. According to John Halpin, senior advisor on the staff of the
    Center for American Progress, “Progressivism is an orientation towards
    politics, It’s not a long-standing ideology like liberalism, but an historically-
    grounded concept… that accepts the world as dynamic.” Progressives see
    progressivism as an attitude towards the world of politics that is broader
    than conservatism vs. liberalism, and as an attempt to break free from what
    they consider to be a false and divisive dichotomy.

    American progressives tend to support interventionist economics: they
    advocate income redistribution, and they oppose the growing influence of
    corporations. Conversely, European and Australian progressives tend to be
    more pro-business, and will often have policies that are soft on taxation of
    large corporations. Progressives are in agreement on an international scale
    with left-liberalism in that they support organized labor and trade unions,
    they usually wish to introduce a living wage, and they often support the
    creation of a universal health care system. Yet progressives tend to be more
    concerned with environmentalism than mainstream liberals, and are often
    more skeptical of the government, positioning themselves as
    whistleblowers and advocates of governmental reform. Finally, liberals are
    more likely to support the Democratic Party in America and the Labour party
    in Europe and Australia, while progressives tend to feel disillusioned with
    any two-party system, and vote more often for third-party candidates.


    1. Any of various theories or systems of social organization in which the
    means of producing and distributing goods is owned collectively or by a
    centralized government that often plans and controls the economy.
    2. The stage in Marxist-Leninist theory intermediate between capitalism and
    communism, in which collective ownership of the economy under the
    dictatorship of the proletariat has not yet been successfully achieved.
    Socialism (in the strict or radical sense) aims to establish a fundamentally
    different society from the one that currently exists in most countries. While
    there are different schools of socialism, which often tend to have differing
    views of the ideal socialist society, some general examples of socialist
    concepts are: The desire to abolish capitalism, to place the means of
    productionexploits the working class, and they desire for workers to play a
    vital role in moving society from capitalism to socialism (either by rising up
    in a revolution or general strike, or by voting en masse for socialist political
    parties). under the collective ownership of the people, and to achieve a very
    high degree of economic and political equality. Socialists argue that

    In contrast, by definition progressivism aims to achieve gradual social
    change, and most progressives are outright opposed to any form of radical
    revolution. When the progressive movement split on economic principles,
    some progressives moved towards the socialist camp, advocating a
    planned economy. Other progressives moved towards the regulated mixed
    economy camp, with both public and private ownership of companies.
    Between these two extremes is social democracy (not a term in popular U.
    S. usage), a branch of socialism that became increasingly moderate and
    moved towards the political center. Regulated-capitalism progressives and
    socialist progressives still tend to support similar progressive social
    policies, outside of economic principles.


    1. A theoretical economic system characterized by the collective ownership
    of property and by the organization of labor for the common advantage of all

    2. Communism
    a. A system of government in which the state plans and controls the
    economy and a single, often authoritarian party holds power, claiming to
    make progress toward a higher social order in which all goods are equally
    shared by the people.
    b. The Marxist-Leninist version of Communist doctrine that advocates the
    overthrow of capitalism by the revolution of the proletariat.
    National Socialism, Naziism, Nazism:
    national socialism, Naziism, Nazism – a form of socialism featuring racism
    and expansionism and obedience to a strong leader

    German history the doctrines and practices of the Nazis, involving the
    supremacy of Hitler, anti-Semitism, state control of the economy, and
    national expansion

    The ideology and practice of the Nazis, especially the policy of racist
    nationalism, national expansion, and state control of the economy.

    An economic system in which the means of production and distribution are
    privately or corporately owned and development is proportionate to the
    accumulation and reinvestment of profits gained in a free market.
    An economic system based on private ownership of the means of
    production, in which personal profit can be acquired through investment of
    capital and employment of labor. Capitalism is grounded in the concept of
    free enterprise, which argues that government intervention in the economy
    should be restricted and that a free market, based on supply and demand,
    will ultimately maximize consumer welfare.

    now that you’ve read those definitions…

    Is it not apparent to you that the Democratic Party is now the Progressive
    Socialist Party? Income redistribution, universal health care, nationalization
    of the economy through our banks, centralized government, and a drive to
    destroy the free market capitalist system upon which our nation was built.

    remember these words uttered by obama?

    “When you spread the wealth around, it’s good for everybody.”
    “It’s no secret that most Americans think the country is on the wrong track”

    “But the reason isn’t just failed policies. It’s a system in Washington that
    has failed the American people. A system that has not kept the most
    fundamental trust of American democracy; that our government is of the
    people, and that it must govern for all the people – not just the interests of
    the wealthy and well-connected.”

    “We don’t need the people, we just need their checks.”

    it’s the associations stupid

  109. I agree with looking for integrity. Yes, there were people in the DNC that did not want a Clinton win but I also think that there is a lot of misogyny and sexism on the left and her success during the primary brought it all out into the open. We see the same hateful spew now directed at Palin and she had nothing to do with any Clinton scandals.

    The truth is that the existing power structure remains, for all intents, intact if black men are allowed in. But let women in, a demographic that makes up half the population, and suddenly there’s going to be a huge shift. And the powers that be simply don’t want to give up that much. It would be like selling 51% of your company’s shares, as opposed to 6%. In one instance you give up a little control, in the other you lose it.

    These two very different but accomplished women, Hillary Clinton and Sarah Palin, are being viciously attacked because they are female. The puppet masters of Camp Obama have managed to bring out the worst in the Democratic Party and BO’s followers by tapping the misogyny that exists in our culture and giving it the veneer of acceptability with false charges of r@cism. Obama’s supporters can feel justified in their ugly actions because they’re supporting the black candidate. It’s sad to see them pit race against gender. It’s such a low and cynical ploy.

    All it’s done is push me and my husband, lifelong Democrats, away. I made up my mind to vote McPalin weeks ago. My husband made his decision this week. We were, and still are, McKinney supporters. But we feel that it’s necessary to do more than cast a protest vote. We need to send a message loud and clear that we will not tolerate this blatant and rampant sexism. Besides, Palin has completely won me over, and she’s even made a good impression on my die-hard liberal husband. And, McCain, heck, I’ve always liked him. Voting McCain/Palin is going to be one of the most satisfying votes I’ve ever cast. I’m so looking forward to it.

  110. I’m right there with you gxm17. I was having this discussion the other night with a Democratic friend who was getting really upset about my refusal to vote BO (I told her I was voting McKinney, which I originally was–if I said McC she would have flipped.) .I didn’t want to discuss it but she kept bringing it up and her confusion and angst were getting to me. I finally told her that there wasn’t a single argument she could try on me, I’d heard them all. Man, all these encounters–with my family, my friends–they wear me out. But at the same time they strengthen my resolve. Every time I get called a nasty name it makes my finger itch to push that R button at the top of the ticket.

  111. Seriously said: My Obot father used to say Clinton was “too wonky,” …..
    Funny. Hillary was too smart. Sarah is too dumb. The Obots will say anything to discount a woman candidate. As will the MSM. Why isn’t this video shown on cable news? Why aren’t the feminists-on-the-left, who have sold out to Obama exposed to this strong woman speaking about these subjects? I’m a registered democrat, still undecided as to who will get my vote, but I do know that I love Sarah. Love, love love. I. Love.Sarah.Palin

  112. Oooo Ooooo Ooooo…brain storm! I do not know if Sarah can do the Rezco slum tour, but someone can. Here is a beggining of a script for the Obama/Rezko slum tour:

    “here is the building that people froze in for five weeks with no heat as Rezko was throwing 1000 dollar a plate fund raisers for Obama’s run for the senate. Guess how Rezko got tax payer dollars to buy and run this slum appartment buildings…yup that’s right folks, Obama wrote him letters of recommendation.
    Can you say graft and corruption boys and girls?”

  113. Check out NQ article on the caucus analysis and pledged delegate totals showing Clinton only 4 pledged delegates behind Obama.

    I think you have to take a longer view on what happened in the Dem primaries. You need to note that Kerry brought Obama to the Dem. convention in 2004. He was clearly identified as a rising star and had the support of Kerry and Kennedy at that time. H. Dean put him in the Dem leaders in training program that he was running. In other words Obama did not just emerge in the primary—he was being groomed by Dems well before that. It is also clear that a significant wing of the Dem party was dedicated to taking out the Clintons. I think Anglachel really nailed that part of the struggle. It was the classic struggle between the left/liberal Stevensonians and the moderate/centrist Truman/FDR factions.

  114. wow, so much good stuff in the comments thread here- this site is rapidly moving up the charts of “must read” material… currently at no #2, but moving up.

    Looking at this from the right, it’s easy to see a huge parallel between what happened to team Clinton this past year and what went down in the GOP about 8 years ago.

    If you’ll recall back then, McCain was riding the “straight talk Express” and had just done far far better in Iowa and NH than anyone thought he could- anyone including the GOP kingmakers that already had their boy (or dunce, if you prefer) picked out. Things were looking dicey, and damned if there didn’t look to be a real race shaping up in the primaries.

    Then things move to the Carolinas. Pernicious little whispers about dusky children of questionable parentage begin wafting about, a few well timed hit pieces land in various media, and the straight talk express is off the rails.

    Fast forward about eight years, and looking through this site one sees the same sort of consternation- “the best person by far for the job did not go forward…uh, WTF?”

    The commonality I see in these two unfortunate vignettes is that in both cases the best candidate was not the anointed candidate.

    Eight years or so ago, the ominous curmudgeonly gop elders decided a pliable W was eminently more controllable than an irascible ex- fighter jock.

    In the more recent race, it’s seems obvious that the kingmakers in the DNC had two things going on- one, Urkel X is a ready made puppet willing to say or do whatever he’s told so long as the check clears- uh, it’s pretty fair to say Hillary just isn’t that way. (I’m thinking maybe that’s why her and McCain like each other.)

    Second, the Clintons made a lot of enemies (Dean, etc.) over the years- those people still had the long knives, they just needed a chance to pull them out and start stabbing. Obie gave them that chance.

    Others on this site have drawn the W/d’Obama comparison- think it’s a valid one. Yeeeesh, I hope things don’t play out the same way this go around.

  115. Dear “A Rightish Visitor”,
    Thank you for this comparison. You are exactly correct. I’ve known these things for some time but you’ve crystallized it for me, at least, very well. This also helps to explain some of my frustration with the “Democratic” party (which isn’t democratic at all): why was it called wrong, evil, underhanded when the GOP did it, but why is it acceptable when the DNC is doing it?

  116. when obama loses he will have his homer simpson D’UOH! moment for not picking hillary.

    hillary might be on the surface supporting Obama but i love that she has refused to say anything negative about Palin, although rumors have it that the DNC wants her to. hill is not a puppet and she will not be manipulated! love that.

    and neither will Palin.

    it’s awesome to see women of great strength and brillance going for it. it’s so inspiring that eventually the glass ceiling will be broken. not if, but when.

    may that when be now!

  117. Palin’s comment about the huge gap between women candidates on the tickets really struck home to me.

    Suffragists (male and female, black and white) worked for years for inclusive enfranchisement. When it looked like success was near, but more sure for men only, women (black and white) were told to step down in favor of male only enfranchisement, thus clinching the vote for black men.

    It was sixty-eight years–68!!!– until women got the vote.

    I’ll be damned if I’m going to wait that long ever again. I’ll be voting for Palin and McCain, and any other woman I find on the ballot. My daughter is not going to live her whole life in a male dominated, patriarchal culture if I have anything to say about it.

  118. I am one angry PUMA today. We need to shout this from the rooftops.

    The Obama campaign announced today that Jay-Z and NBA star LeBron James will hold a “Last Chance for Change” concert in Cleveland next Wednesday.


    After Dedicating Crass Song to McCain/Palin, Jay-Z to Rally Obama Supporters in Ohio
    October 23, 2008 11:52 AM

    The Obama campaign announced today that Jay-Z and NBA star LeBron James will hold a “Last Chance for Change” concert in Cleveland next Wednesday.

    The announcement about Jay-Z comes a few days after he dedicated his 2003 song “99 Problems” to Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., and Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin.

    The lyrics to “99 Problems” include the famous line:

    “If you’re havin’ girl problems I feel bad for you son
    I got 99 problems but a bitch ain’t one.”

    According to MTV News Jay recently dedicated the song to McCain and a “homegirl,” whom he described as “the one who says ‘You betcha.’ ”

    “I’m gonna get in trouble for this,” Jay said, laughing, “but f— it, this is freedom of speech.”

    — jpt

  119. I just watched the video. Wow, Lynn Forester de Rothschild was clapping her arms off—so enthusiastic. And she’s so tall.

  120. you just have to love her!

  121. as long as hill is helping obama, then she almost deserves what she got.

  122. babies mind, that sounds like an obot comment and is very anti woman. NOONE least of ALL Hillary deserves “what she got” I guess thirty five years of working on issues we all care about mean nothing when you have a knife in your back and can’t save the world. I see this little bit of piling on Hillary right now on several blogs….I think it’s rather curious, insidious and not very charitable. it doesn’t strike me as “genuine” it does however seem very Axelrodish to me.

    I think it would thrill obots to have us all hating on Hillary now and speaking as someone who happens to appreciate what she’s worked on all these years, I don’t think being trotted out by the Axelrod bunch and the billionaire Soroscrats is her fault. I suppose you could have her commit political suicide short term and not be able to get a thing done long term and then you’d be satisfied but, no I don’t think you would. Only obots would love that.

    Sorry, but in politics you have to live to fight another day. And I’m not so willing to throw someone who stood up for me and mine for as long as she has under a bus so fast. I’m no Obama.

    There’s lots of places to Hilary bash around the net, such as KOS…and something just doesn’t ring “true” with these sudden echo’s all at once in so many places.

  123. I am a woman too, some of the things you state about Palin are talking points from the Obama campaign and the media and are inaccurate. I see Palin as every bit as qualified as Obama who has puffed up his resume with things which are not exactly accurate either, and he tore down Clitnon’s career and diminished it to do it. Not very much truth in much of what he’s said or what the media have said if you look up the real records.

    As for your last sentence, good enough. Support the women candidates you wish to. After what I’ve seen this election cycle, as acceptable, I’m convinced that other than Roe V. Wade women haven’t made a hell of a lot of progress, we’ve been given nothing. Time to take it.

    I’ll support women as much as possible. i’m afraid for our future children too. Especially the female children. See above video. One step forward and a five thousand back.

  124. After Dedicating Crass Song to McCain/Palin, Jay-Z to Rally Obama Supporters in Ohio
    October 23, 2008 11:52 AM

    The Obama campaign announced today that Jay-Z and NBA star LeBron James will hold a “Last Chance for Change” concert in Cleveland next Wednesday.

    The announcement about Jay-Z comes a few days after he dedicated his 2003 song “99 Problems” to Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., and Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin.

    The lyrics to “99 Problems” include the famous line:

    “If you’re havin’ girl problems I feel bad for you son
    I got 99 problems but a bitch ain’t one.”

    According to MTV News Jay recently dedicated the song to McCain and a “homegirl,” whom he described as “the one who says ‘You betcha.’ ”

    “I’m gonna get in trouble for this,” Jay said, laughing, “but f— it, this is freedom of speech.”

    – jpt

    Destini, can we be there to protest thisPOS boil on the butt of humanity? Obama rewarded Chris Matthews after his minor demotion by letting him as press on his plane. Obama is a sexist woman hating PIG. If you have any doubts you have your head in the sand. Rewarding Chris Matthews and knowingly rewarding Jay Z. He’s going to have more than 99 problems, that last one he says he doesn’t have is going to hound him to hell every single day til he begs to be allowed to go back to Chicago. I’ve never loathed anyone in my life as much as I do the misogynist Obama.

  125. […] Palin asks: Why did the person with 18 million votes get passed over? (by riverdaughter at The Confluence) Good question. […]

  126. Stumbled upon this site and I must say it has the most fascinating conspiracy theories. The DNC hand-selected Obama, so Hillary never had a chance!!!

    Wow. Now I’ve heard them all.

    So if and when Obama wins the election, will it have been George Washington who hand-selected him, passing over the incompetent and sleazy McCain and his 150K dress he calls a running mate? Worse yet…was it GOD who fixed the election.

    Rock on conspiracy gals! Rock on.

    I now open the message board for 50 straight people to call me a misogynist pig who “just doesn’t see” what the rest of the country sees.


    I am sharing this idea on several blogs this week where others are not supporting Obama.

    For the record:
    I am a PUMA in northern VA
    I am a Black woman
    I am a registered democrat
    I am one of the voters who supported Hillary Clinton in the primary

    AND I am not voting for Obama-Biden.

    I am so tired of hearing about Obama spending big bucks to run his infomercial on October 29th by trying to blanket mainstream television airways.

    I think we need to begin to promote a “Turn off Obama-TV” on October 29th. I say – Do NOT Listen to or Watch Obama’s 30 minute commercial on October 29, 2008. Obama thinks he can MAKE us listen to what he has to say by spending all that money in order to have his commercial on several networks at the same time. We do NOT have to listen. We do NOT have to support this gimmick.

    Let’s all participate in: “Turn Off Obama-TV” that night. On October 29th for that specific 30 minutes: Push mute – Turn down the sound – Change the channel – or Turn off the television. Do not listen to any more of Obama’s hot air, false promises or his lies about McCain-Palin.

    We do not have to fall in line like the Democratic Party assumes we will do. We do not have to permit the gang in the so-called Democratic leadership – Dean, Frank, Pelosi, Reid & Brazile – continue to fantasize that they are leading us.

    INSTEAD for that 30 minutes do something else with your brain cells — (here’s a few ideas)

    Watch a different tv program
    Watch a DVD or video
    Listen to the radio
    Listen to a CD
    Read a book or magazine
    Play a board game
    Surf the web
    Watch YouTube videos
    Call a friend on the phone
    Play a video game
    Write an email to a friend
    Work on one of the word games or word puzzles in the newspaper
    Play the piano (or instrument of your choice)
    Do some exercising
    Play a card game
    Work on your family’s scrapbooks
    Bake Halloween cookies or cupcakes
    Work on your favorite hobby

    Between now and Oct 29th – Let others know that you are choosing NOT to listen to & to NOT watch Obama’s commercial. And encourage others to join in a national response to this media effort.

    Please join me by choosing to turn away from Obama’s efforts to control the outcome of this election by spending so much money on a one night media blitz.

    Tell all your family & friends to “Turn Off Obama-TV” on Oct. 29th!!

  128. ha, ha jeahh a really great clip!!!!

  129. Thinking man, catch up here. Please go read the caucus fraud report by Dr. Lynette Long and then watch the videos of the caucus frauds already out there for the documentary being made “We Will Not Be Silenced”

    Then do the rest of your research. The D.N.C. did indeed SELECT Obama. It’s not a conspiracy. *rolleyes* If you only stumbled by here for a hit and run post you’ve missed the fact that most people here are highly intelligent educated people not prone to engaging in tin foil hats, they have better taste than that.

    If you’re an obot though, I give you a pass on reading Dr. Long’s caucus fraud analysis or on any video taped evidence of the fraud. There was a law suit filed in the primaries by the Clinton campaign over this. Catch up.

    Stop blogger boying around and do your own homework.

  130. All I can say is “Failen Palin” Go home Palin! Have a cup of tea and look at Russia from your gazibo! http://www.northernvox.com

  131. […] Palin asks: Why did the person with 18 million votes get passed over? Good question. […]

  132. stinking man:

    You sir, are a dolt.

    If you could I dunno, comprehend what you were reading you’d note that I was the one who stated that your flapping empty suit was selected by howie dean and the rest of the crooks.

    You’d also note I am someone from the right.

    As such, I’ve got nothing invested in this game- other than to be disgusted and outraged when someone gets cheated out of what they won through appallingly foul means.

    Let’s look at some of your droolie babble:

    “The DNC hand-selected Obama, so Hillary never had a chance!!!”

    Half right, half wit. The dnc along with the lackey press selected jugears. Hillary had a chance- assuming the rules actually got used. They weren’t, so she lost her chance.

    “Wow. Now I’ve heard them all.”

    No, you haven’t. The press is sitting on most of it- if you heard it all the stuttering joke you apparently support would be nowhere near the presidency.

    “So if and when Obama wins the election, will it have been George Washington who hand-selected him, passing over the incompetent and sleazy McCain and his 150K dress he calls a running mate?”

    Uh, whuh? In order to properly exercise sarcasm, it is first necessary to be coherent. You have signally failed in this, so you have only succeeded in sounding like a jabbering, deranged boob- much like the vice presidential candidate standing alongside the wizard of uhs. And nice empty headed parroting of the latest Palin meme in re: her clothing. Here’s a question, genius- how much did dumbO spend on those styrofoam columns he used to make himself look all Mt. Olympus like?

    “Worse yet…was it GOD who fixed the election. ”

    Nah, your stooge is a socialist- they don’t believe in religion, it’s the opiate of the masses and stuff.

    Man, you see the Obots all over the web but every single one brings such lame crap to the table. It’s like a swarm of mediocrity.

    Exhibit B:

    halvoropsal burps this gem up:

    “All I can say is “Failen Palin” Go home Palin! Have a cup of tea and look at Russia from your gazibo!”

    Three sentences, four spelling or grammatical errors. I thought it was the people that didn’t like Obumma that lacked education. How very confusing….

  133. Easy. The person with 18,000,001 votes gets to make the call, and Hillary Clinton is not a natural “second banana” to anyone, especially after the primaries. Not to mention the baggage that the loose cannon and putative “Second Dude” would have brought to the party. If she’d won the nomination, First Dude Bill would have been her problem. Picking her as VP and him as Second Dude would just throw red meat to the wackosphere. Its not a choice a rational person would make, though it would create a mind-boggling parity with McCain’s choice of the differently problematic Palin.

  134. I can’t believe how hate driven so many of these comments are. There are some that say that Palin is smart and they will vote for her because they are feminists. You must be kidding, really, you must. Only 2 days ago, Palin answered that the job of the VP is to go into Congress, cause that’s something the VP can do, and have a real impact on policy. If you don’t know what’s wrong with that answer, that explains why you think she’s so smart. Of course, no one says she’s dumb, but she’s certainly not smart enough. We’ve had enough idiocy in the white house. She is a hack of a politician (intended) and has clearly abused her position in Alaska. Saying Obama is a liar, Chicago politician, come on. The truth is that if you will support her, you don’t care for the policies, etc., only self interest: possibility of a woman president. If I’d be a woman, I would too, but how about saying that instead of the bs.

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  136. Milter, you couldn’t “be a woman;” it’d be too hard for you!

    Yeeessh. Go back to Bot-blogging.

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