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In Your Wildest Dreams . . .
Did you ever think you/we would be here at this time in this election year—refugees from our Party of origin, protesting its candidate? Goes to show, we’re still the rebel’s rebel! Ain’t that the story of my life? If that’s the case, and they do pull it off, I’m concerned for my freedoms. It’s so weird, with Obama, Dean, Pelosi, Reid, Frank, Dodd, orange kool-aid types running things, that I feel just as suppressed as when the far Right was in charge.
Many of our disenchanted were out canvassing or making phone calls as Democrats for McCain/Palin last weekend, and they will continue until the election. Some people stepped up right away. Others have cautiously dipped a toe in with mixed feelings. Some PUMA/Just Say No Deal coalition members say it’s the only way to voice our stand for a just and transparent democracy. They consider McCain/Palin more trustworthy, prudent for the economy, and ethical, although most of us disagree with their stance on reproductive rights and the environment.
The Nature of Palin
In my assessment, Palin was very good-natured about being trashed on SNL right in front of her face twice, first by Tina Fey whom she watched on the monitor, then by Alec Baldwin, who told her she was hotter in person. She looked comfy in her body as she moved and danced, which is always a good sign to me.
In comments broadcast the following Sunday from a taped interview on local TV-9 here in Manhattan, Palin spoke of how you much fun it was to do the show, and how nice the cast and staff were to her. When asked if the jokes about her bothered her, she replied that in deciding to go for the job, you have to be thick skinned, but that it hurt to have her family trashed in the MSM. However, she said that running for office is a group deal; everyone in the family knows they need to be on board and also have thick skins. That strikes me as a pretty healthy, energetic attitude. I guess it bothers me that in order to be considered cool, Governor Palin has to get approval by actor, writer, director, Tina Fey, (wow, she’s accomplished—turnabout) who also belittled her on Letterman the previous evening.
Of course, these days we want our prez to be cewl, which is why we liked Bill (in addition to his being brilliant) when he wore shades and played sax on Arsenio and MTV, and jammed along with the band at his Inauguration Ball. Remember, Bill was a product of the type of school system I grew up in, where they offered orchestra, chorus, art, drama, PE, and square dancing. This system helped round pegs like me fit into square holes, but I digress . . .
Donna, Howard, Remember Us?
Nobama has warned: Democrats, be careful, you can still mess it up, just when it looks like you’ve got it in the bag. However, I’m a bit disheartened these days. With Obama raising a record $150 million in September, and 175,000 turning up in Missouri on Saturday, October 19, you might understand why.
So I got this classic Moody Blues song in my head and checked out the YouTube. Their video is your tacky eighties fare, basically about a girlfriend of a rock star. Don’t miss the choreographed dancin’ in the street. But the lyrics could be anybody wondering about a long lost love, friend, dear one, or someone from whom they’re estranged.
This got me wondering if Howard Dean and Donna Brazille ever think about us? You know those bitter white women, old people, the ones Donna declared they didn’t need, and Howard acted like they could win without. They’ll have to, as far as PUMA and Just Say No Deal-ers are concerned. Playing out the roles in the video, I kept getting hung up with the end—when the band is dragging him away, and he just can’t help it, of course. And the girl is standing watching him go, after having tried to get in touch several times, and she’s now a bored housewife. I just couldn’t wrap my brain around which role fit Howard, Donna, me or us. Neither, I think, because we’re not suckers and they ain’t helpless. But that’s not what’s important. It’s the wildest dreams part that’s on my mind, and upon which I’d like to refocus some energy and attention.
If You Want It
Concurring with riverdaughter about the anger, I think it’s time to bring out the heavy-duty tools—as in prayer and intention! You know about The Secret? Sshhh, don’t tell, but as Norman Vincent Peale and healers believe, “You Can If You Think You Can.” It’s like The Little Engine That Could, right? I saw The Secret the movie, didn’t read the book, hah, but it’s about manifesting your life by feeling, thinking, seeing, and being your intention in every cell of your body. Actually, that’s how I work with chronic pain as a somatic practitioner and hands-on-healer. I put my attention into blending with, then overpowering the sensations of pain with my complete attention, leaving no room in my touch or mind for it to be otherwise. Sometimes it’s a battle, pain can be a stubborn sucker, but I always win.
Group prayer can create miracles for its willing recipients. Many people have experienced the power of prayer ease their own or a loved one’s plight. When in dire situations, people may pray for the best possible outcome and the recipient feels at ease, although the result might not be the desired one. I’m no evangelical, but I am ecumenical and believe that no matter what form of prayer or deity one uses as intercessor, it will forward their intention. One might say that the panic-driven recent stock market sell-off, which many observers have remarked is psychological, is a form of prayer or belief working in the mode of fear or negativity. In other words, attention may also be directed negatively and have an affect, as in voodoo. Being a good witch, I always advocate for manifesting for good.
It must be in the zeitgeist, because in her Sunday Late Night Open Thread, riverdaughter played a beautiful video rendition of “Down to the River to Pray.” Earlier in the evening, Heidi Li Feldman, Marc Rubin, and Harriet Christian joined RD, who filled in for Sheri Tag on her “No We Won’t” PURrr show. Recalling all the February HAKA that Obama would beat Hillary according to the numbers, and that there was no way she could win, Heidi Li made the point that this is basically a theme that has been perpetrated upon the American public. It’s like an ad that’s been played often enough over time. She said, “It’s only a self-fulfilling prophesy if you let it,” which reminds me of John Lennon’s, “War is over, if you want it.”
I’m not saying only pray. I’m saying pray and take action. Harriet says: Be pro-active! Do whatever you can to stop Obama. Heidi and Marc say donate to Democrats For Principle Before Party so they can run an ad during the World Series. Murphy invites you to visit PUMA PAC’s Action Center. And last but not least, find out how to join in a variety of activities by visiting Just Say No Deal.
Perchance To Dream
I’ve arrived at my point in a roundabout way, but . . . please use this entry as a way to dream. Listen to the music, take the poll, and comment away about your dreams. You’ll notice that I did not include Hillary as a presidential choice, because I’m asking that you focus on the choices we currently have. We used to dream about some illegality knocking BO out of the race, but in two weeks, with the momentum now, Hillary is just not, well, dare I say, there’s a limit to my band width. Although, of course, you can dream and write her in under “other.” For any interlopers, know that the PUMA McCain choice is a protest vote. Oh, and yes, I question that the options include a Dean/Brazille, et al apology, and, sadly, fair elections.
What is your wildest election dream given our options? Make it happen, people. In its short life to date, isn’t that what our ragtag underfunded coalition has always been about? By paying attention and speaking up, haven’t we actually made a dent in the narrative of this election cycle and the vetting of its candidates? A determined voice that roars like a PUMA. Who knows what we yet can accomplish? In your wildest dreams . . .
Prologue: A New Voice —
From THE JOURNEY by Mary Oliver, 1986
” . . . though the voices around you kept shouting their bad advice . . .”
It was already late
enough, and a wild night,
and the road full of fallen
branches and stones.
But little by little,
as you left their voices behind,
the stars began to burn
through the sheets of clouds,
and there was a new voice
which you slowly
recognized as your own [. . .]
performed by The Keith Jarrett Trio
When You Wish Upon A Star
Music: Leigh Harline
Lyrics: Ned Washington
When a star is born
They posses a gift or two
One them is this
They have the power
To make a wish come trueWhen you wish upon a star
Makes no difference who you are
Anything your heart desires
Will come to youIf your heart is in your dream
No request is too extreme
When you wish upon a star
As dreamers doFate is kind
She brings to those to love
The sweet fulfillment of
Their secret longingLike a bolt out of the blue
Fate steps in and sees you through
When you wish upon a star
Your dreams come true
[cross-posted from Lady Boomer NYC]
Filed under: General, Hillary Clinton, Politics, Presidential Election 2008 | Tagged: 2008 Presidential Race, Democrats for Principle before Party, Hillary Clinton, In Your Wildest Dreams, Just say no deal, Nobama, PUMA, PUMA pac, When You Wish Upon A Star |
The Confluence 
Guys, I have been praying every night.
I have converted two people today. Please have faith in yourselves. I have a theory that there is a seed of doubt in the mind of every Obama supporter. I nuture those seeds of doubt and I have been successful.
We are starting to see who invented Obama: “Neoprogs, meet the neocons”
http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2008/10/20/neoprogs-meet-the-neocons/
Oh, and I voted McCain wins as the wildest as the fix is so much in, it seems hard to believe they leave it up to the voters
Go afrocity!
Hmmm, as a hard-headed Virgo, this post is a little airy-fairy for me. It was beautiful anyway, though, and hey, prayer couldn’t hoit!
My wildest dream was that Hillary and Wesley Clark win the election. (You didn’t say it had to be plausible, LB!!!)
Time to make dinner, lovely Conflucians. PUMA POWER!!!
I prayed everyday for Hillary to win the Primary — I even tried to give up swearing. I consulted the cards which told me Hillary would win. I even dreamt Hillary would win —- I dreamt she’d come in 3rd in Iowa and then come in first in New Hampshire (the day before the Iowa vote).
I don’t believe in prayer, dreams or the cards — only a stiff shot of ice cold Tequila does the trick these days.
Ha ha Palin rescuing SNL,you go Lou Dobbs
Sorry, but whenever I hear people praying for victory in politics, I’m reminded of Lincoln’s second inaugural address:
I love afrocity!! Keep planting the seeds of doubt!
Angienc, those are ACORN seeds ya know!
Goodwin on Dobbs is calling out BO on running against Hillary based on her war vote & then picks Biden (who voted for the war) & then says P*well who got us into the war as an adviser!! You go Lou.
The other Republican strategist guy basically calls P*well a Judas!! LOL
Angie this Zimmerman guy on Lou Dobbs creeps me out. He looks like Dracula.
This is going to sound superstititious but I believe deeply that Hillary was supposed to win this primary, by every predicton, premonition, and horoscope under the sun. I think someone stepped in and got in the way of that, though I don’t know how strong someone has to be to derail what’s meant to be.
I dreamt of Hillary walking into camera flashes in her inauguration dress.
Sky’s the limit? O.K. – Obama is indicted, Hillary replaces him, Hillary wins.
FYI – Lou Dobbs tonight featured Kitty Pilgrim’s report on the State of New Jersey releasing the Princeton U. tests on Sequoia voting machines, in service throughout the state, ordered released by the state courts. They could pick open the lock and substitute with rigged results on computer chips in under 4 minutes. There is no paper trail, and it’s too late to replace the machines.
Riverdaughter, sounds like your resident state of New Jersey is ripe for voter fraud this year. Do you know of anyone or group trying to safeguard the machines?
Dracula is a good call — kind of an albino one though. lol He was strongly for Hillary during the primary though — now he is another party sell-out.
I am listening to Hannity and the Obots are on. Someone from work told me they are supporting barry hussian — she thinks sarah is inexperienced. So I asked her to give me one executive experience that barry hussian has — COULD NOT DO IT. She thinks barry hussian is smarter than sarah and that he writes his own speeches — yeah — well, I set her straight.
Go Joe the Plumber !!!
madamab and simofish — Yes, call me airy fairy. Uh huh, and I know it! I can see this may be a more controversial post for here than I’d expected!
simofish — I understand, and maybe that stiff shot is the best possible outcome! But . . . just look at all we HAVE accomplished in a such a short time. I think that was a result of our collective vision, which was our daring to dream for a democracy that we were not getting. We have each other, right? Otherwise, we’d be pretty alone right now. Tequila’s one of the few things I CAN drink without being bowled over by a migraine. Clink!
Regency — I agree with you on that. It was supposed to be Hillary & something evil (Soros) stopped it.
Regency — my spouse says the same thing — trust the cards she was supposed to win but Botox P and Harry Reid stepped in along with Coward Dean and Brazilenut.
I am staying off the cards !!! Uh, Oh, I feel them pulling at me — ask if John will win, ask if John will win ……………BRB.
Joe the Plumber is losing to P0well 44 to 56 on the Lou Dobbs poll. The bots must be out in full force.
http://loudobbs.tv.cnn.com
Lady B ….. clink !!!! Hey, we lit the candles, did the chants !!! Kept the alter up for months ………
I’ve been doing a little visualizing myself. Sometimes I have trouble getting to sleep because I’m so worried about this election. I soothe myself with sweet visions of McCain winning in November, Obama doing the walk of shame back to Chicago, and Dean/Pelosi/Brazile crying bitter tears.
It ain’t easy, though. Like many of you, I’m living in a house divided. My son and I are voting for McCain; my daughter and husband support Obama. I see Obama buttons and posters all over my Brooklyn neighborhood, but I do my best to let people know where I stand and that I am not supporting Obama. It’s difficult for folks to speak out when surrounded by Obama supporters but I feel that even doing so in a small way, with a group of friends or co-workers for instance, may give courage to those who are on the fence.
And yeah. I never in my wildest dreams would have imagined that this November, I’d be rooting for a Republican victory.
Campbell’s Poop just got busted by Lou Dobbs
gqmartinez, on October 20th, 2008 at 7:39 pm Said:
Quoting Lincoln: “The Almighty has His own purposes.”
Absolutely!
Regency –
I heard Hillary interviewed by Tavis Smiley on the radio while making a long drive back home last night. He asked her how she dealt with running against Obama to supporting him, emotionally (words to that effect). Hillary indicated first she got caught up on sleep, took long walks, and lots of exercise, before going back out on the trail.
Hillary said she also “visualizes” standing on the White House lawn as Obama signs a new health care legislation (Impressed how she’s always dedicated to her main cause.)
In our fantasy projection of what might happen, I’d say in reality, she’s getting in shape for whatever contingency. Keep visualizing. (E.g., put Hillary in the picture, signing the bill, if you like).
I believe in prayer. That was beautiful Lady Bloomer. As for what I want my dream to be, I want all of the above!!! Except “Obama Wins”.
Everyone has a seed of doubt about BO, save for his devotees. There is just, as many say, “a bad feeling” about him.
Another Good Witch here to say that the message of The Secret is a true one. If we think we can, we can. Or I should say, if we think we WILL, we WILL.
It WILL be all right. I know it.
And this election has gotten me thinking about many a thing. It has realigned me to what is really important. I remember when Bo first started his Campiagn, his message was a message of putting aside our differences, forgetting partisanship and accepting each other as fellow Americans, regardless of what Political Party we belong to. It was a good message, but as the great Queen Elizabeth would say, “A man is judged not by his beliefs, but his deeds.”
The ultimate irony is that while Obama’s silver tongue spouted a meme of hope for a better future by simply loving one another, his Campaign and his supporters showed us that their true nature and true intentions showed exactly the opposite. While “The One” preached a messianic message, he planted so much hate and anger in the hearts of his followers. He showed us who he truly was, not by his words, but his deeds.
In the ultimate paradox, we have accepted and united with the forces that we once opposed. We now have learned to love one another despite our differences. And if my sense of irony is as strong as I think it is (and it is), than isn’t it the ultimate irony that his campaign and his supporters are the ones spreading the violence, hatred, and divisiveness he professes to hate?
When McCain wins this, we’ll have learned a strong and powerful lesson. And if people would stop and think about how very profound and important that is, than maybe we will know that what has happened is good, and has happened for a reason.
McCain/Palin ’08
Hillary ’12
SOD — don’t worry if BO wins it will not last long — I heard some prediction that the world is ending in 2012 anyway. lol
Stilllife,
Lol, I thought it was just me. I have not been sleeping either. I have been visualizing Minnesota, Wisconsin, Maine and Oregon going Red. I look at the real clear map every night and visualize it for Mccain. There is another trick too. Before the VP debate I visualized Sarah Palin and sent good thoughts to her. I did it before her SNL appearance too. Lets visualize McCain taking that walk down Pennsylvania Ave, on Inauguration day. I see my Puma pals there in the crowd. I see Obama back in Chicago sitting on the sofa with Rezko, Farrakhan and Ayers watching it on TV. They only live a block from one another so the get together was easy for Michelle to plan. Yeah we conquered the evil wizard of arugula and change.
Then I see myself voting Obama out of his senate office in 2010.
SOD, I don’t like the good/evil dichotomy, but evil can only when if “good” gives up. In my formulation, “evil” (or bad things) happen when the search for the truth and questioning of injustice are no longer pursued.
Hi – Good PM,
I just want to state that I got an email that Will Bower who founded the PUMA/Just SayNo Deal site in Facebook got his Facebook account suspended with no explanation at all. Has that been reported here?
afrocity LMAO I see Obama back in Chicago sitting on the sofa with Rezko, Farrakhan and Ayers watching it on TV. They only live a block from one another so the get together was easy for Michelle to plan. Yeah we conquered the evil wizard of arugula and change.
stillife, on October 20th, 2008 at 7:50 pm Said:
“Obama doing the walk of shame back to Chicago, and Dean/Pelosi/Brazile crying bitter tears.”
LOL! Now that’s a great vision, although I’m sorry about all our divisions. Sigh.
SOD, I was exhausted for a while, even unusually had the flu with a fever for 10 days, and it took me a while to get my juice back. I didn’t open my blog or read others, I felt brain dull. Now I’m back. I like how Liberty Belle described Hillary’s refueling regimen — working out and visualizing. I agree, really, she’s still got her eyes on the prize. It sounds like you’re doing what you need to take care of yourself, which is great!
Regency, on October 20th, 2008 at 7:45 pm Said:
This is going to sound superstititious but I believe deeply that Hillary was supposed to win this primary, by every predicton, premonition, and horoscope under the sun. I think someone stepped in and got in the way of that, though I don’t know how strong someone has to be to derail what’s meant to be.
I dreamt of Hillary walking into camera flashes in her inauguration dress.
She WAS to win. Regency, and you know, she did win. She was the one who legally won the primary, we all know that. Obama is an illigetemate who was given the nomination in a, there is no other word for it, a coup.
Now, Obama’s karma will come back to him full force, whether he wins or not.
I will still believe in good. And every prediction and psychic prophesy shows that Hillary will be our nation’s first woman president. A psychic named Elizabeth Joyce said it wasn’t Hillary’s time this time. She was right. I will always say that what has happened happened for a reason and this country will learn from it.
Hillary is probably really visualizing herself signing a UHC bill at her oval office desk in a brown pantsuit, a picture of Big Dawg and Chelsea behind her.
In 2014.
Puma Hayward, yes, and I haven’t heard an update.
Hillary said she also “visualizes” standing on the White House lawn as Obama signs a new health care legislation.
Dear Hillary —
Don’t believe the asshole, he’s a liar. He didn’t stand up for you when you were being mocked by racists Trinity Church. He’ll NEVER sign the bill because that would be a win for you and he would never allow that. You’re heart is full of good while his is not.
Let me put it this way. If he were your sister, the house would land on him.
Love, Hugs, 2012 — SimoFish
afrocity, sounds like a plan.
SOD!!! Don’t cry. It’ll be all right in the end.
You know, I think McCain picking Palin as his running mate changed a lot of things. I think she was an unexpected pick.
LI: I like your vision. I’ll take it.
Little Isis, on October 20th, 2008 at 7:56 pm —
I agree with everything you wrote. Exactly, you speak the truth. “Whooo could’ve imagined?” —Frank Zappa
Isis — Can’t believe I’m admitting I know this, but Elizabeth Joyce also said the ticket with the woman on it will win — last January she assumed that would be Hillary, she gave an update in September to clarify that it is definitely the McCain/Palin ticket she saw.
Afrocity, I like your vision and I will add it to my night-time routine. I grew up in Hyde Park, so it will be easy to envision Obama back there with his crooked friends. Maybe I should expand my vision to put them in Cook County Jail!
Maybe I’m in denial, but I do not believe the polls showing Obama ahead in swing states. Frankly, I don’t believe anything I read in the media these days.
PUMA Hayward, I read that somewhere about Will Bower’s Facebook account. That is outrageous! I had better warn my son, whose Facebook says “Nick is not an Obamabot!”
Isis — you are dead right about this:
Hillary is probably really visualizing herself signing a UHC bill at her oval office desk in a brown pantsuit, a picture of Big Dawg and Chelsea behind her.
In 2014.
Hillary knows BO isn’t going to win — she knew it back in May. Nothing has happened to change that.
Hillary did win but they coronated someone else.
angienc, on October 20th, 2008 at 8:07 pm Said:
Isis — Can’t believe I’m admitting I know this, but Elizabeth Joyce also said the ticket with the woman on it will win — last January she assumed that would be Hillary, she gave an update in September to clarify that it is definitely the McCain/Palin ticket she saw.
Yup!!! And she also said that Obama will rue the day he passed up Hillary as his running mate. She said that a ticket with a woman on it would win, and she had automatically assumed it would just be Hillary, but the cards changed when he snootily passed her up, and McCain played on his mistake and picked Palin.
I will say this again: Obama’s karma will catch up to him in a big way. It’s the way the universe works.
Powell was a Judas to the American people long b4 he endorsed Obama. I pray for the best and prepare 4 the worst. I have already done 8 years of awful if I am stuck with 4 more so be it. This time I won’t hold my tongue though. I will be I told you soin’ left and well left.
As for my down moment, I spent 5 hours crying from midnight to morning about all this. It was exhausting and I nearly didn’t make it to class today but I needed to feel it.
Lady Boomer NYC, your powerful post has elicited some great responses. Thank you for the positive energy.
Liberty Belle not for Obama, I think Tavis Smiley is part of the healing. Thanks for sharing that.
Regency, on October 20th, 2008 at 8:11 pm Said:
Hillary did win but they coronated someone else.
Yes Reg, as you explained in your livejournal post, which I read!!!!
Cheer up SOD!!! (hugs)
🙂
Little Isis — I believe it — no way can all the bad karma BO has racked up in this election alone not come back to bite him in the a$$. Stepping in & messing up the destiny of Hillary cannot go without an accounting.
More on Powell. The guy is a pitiful excuse for a public servant. His loyalty was to the office of the Presidency more than it was to the American people. The guy pisses me off because any sorry soul who wore a uniform but could sell the other folks wearing the uniform out is a sorry excuse of a person.
I’m an atheist so I don’t pray, but I do ruminate. And my ruminatin’ says that Obama is toast.
Regency, on October 20th, 2008 at 8:12 pm Said:
As for my down moment, I spent 5 hours crying from midnight to morning about all this. It was exhausting and I nearly didn’t make it to class today but I needed to feel it.
I have had my down moments too about this election, but I have given up on the down moments. I have shed enough tears myself, believe me. It doesn’t solve anything, so I am focusing instead on thinking positively.
If we all think positively then we can manifest the outcome that is best.
🙂
Little Isis, I believe in karma, too. Even Bush’s karma eventually came back to haunt him. Unfortunately, it came at a steep price to others as well (Katrina, Iraq War). In my darker moments, I fear that Obama is the price we have to pay for 8 years of Bush. I am really scared about what an Obama Presidency will do to this country. His campaign has been incredibly destructive and I shudder to think what will happen if he’s elected.
Lady Boomer – we all need that healing – thank you for this post.
My dreams will manifest in regaining my financial freedom again so I can reserve my Washington DC hotel room to go see President Hillary Clinton sworn into office on January 20th, 2013, with PUMA cub and Abuela PUMA and my tribe of PUMAs !
SOD — it isn’t the universe doing it — it is people, greedy people — Dean, Pelosi, Obama, Soros, Kerry, et al. They will get their comeuppance for what they have done. You don’t even have to pray for that — you can count on it.
Regency, don’t cry. The fool is not worth your tears. Instead of crying we need to follow Heidi’s example and stay organized and fight. I am also making a vow that come 2010 all will NOT be forgiven. My memory is looooooooong and those that subverted democracy will have their day of reckonin’ if I have my way.
Thank you and you’re welcome purplefinn. Also to Liberty Belle and you re: Tavis Smiley. What courage he has.
afrocity, on October 20th, 2008 at 7:58 pm — What a fantastic vision!
Furthermore, does anybody else remeber when the “polls” said Obama was going to win iprimary n SD by a landslide. How’d that work out? Oh wait it didn’t. Polls can be wrong. Pay no attention to them and just keep pushing.
{{{{{{ Hugs to SOD }}}}}}
It is awful but we will come back stronger and better. We know where the weaknesses were in our plan this time; we’ll be better prepared for the cheating, criminal mofos that inhabit this country next go around though I’m hoping they’re all in Club Fed by then.
Shoulder to shoulder, we’ll stand just like before, just like always.
angienc, on October 20th, 2008 at 8:14 pm Said:
Little Isis — I believe it — no way can all the bad karma BO has racked up in this election alone not come back to bite him in the a$$. Stepping in & messing up the destiny of Hillary cannot go without an accounting.
Agreed!!! I think Hillary somehow knows that she will be president at some point. Even when everyone was saying BO would win and he was going to be coronated and all, when it was really her winning, she knew she would win, somehow.
Michelle Whitedove, another psychic that is a little out there but surprisingly accurate sometimes, says she keeps getting a vision of Hillary being sworn in and it has not gone away since all of this.
Palin is 44 yrs old = 44th Presidency
Well, at least CNN is reporting that the race is tightening with Obama’s lead down 2 pts. from 8 to 6. That’s close and I feel it will get closer and that ultimately McPalin will pull this off.
Regency, on October 20th, 2008 at 8:21 pm Said:
{{{{{{ Hugs to SOD }}}}}}
It is awful but we will come back stronger and better. We know where the weaknesses were in our plan this time; we’ll be better prepared for the cheating, criminal mofos that inhabit this country next go around though I’m hoping they’re all in Club Fed by then.
Shoulder to shoulder, we’ll stand just like before, just like always.
(((Hugs to everyone)))
stillife, on October 20th, 2008 at 8:16 pm Said:
Little Isis, I believe in karma, too. Even Bush’s karma eventually came back to haunt him. Unfortunately, it came at a steep price to others as well (Katrina, Iraq War). In my darker moments, I fear that Obama is the price we have to pay for 8 years of Bush. I am really scared about what an Obama Presidency will do to this country. His campaign has been incredibly destructive and I shudder to think what will happen if he’s elected.
I am scared of it too. But I also believe in the real good of the American People. We, as Americans, don’t deserve to pay the price for their actions.
It will work out in the end.
😀
SOD,
We need to do a better job reaching out to our GOP counterparts. I was absolutely apalled at how few of the GOP women knew about BC being considered “abortion” by the admin. We could and should be doing better to reach out in areas where we do agree. I think there can be broad agreement that we don’t want women to go back to the days when there were no choices open to them. Their job was just to have babies.
Lady Boomer,
I love your postive post and the Moody Blues song. I loved them when I was young! I’m a mystical type myself so I’m in sympathy with your ideas.
I don’t think we know yet what will happen. There can still be a lot of twists and turns in two weeks. I believe in taking things one day at a time. Just for today, I’m grateful for The Confluence and all our contributors and commenters. I love you all!
Ok — we need to settle down here — (1) Even if BO wins, Hillary is not going to be seeing him sign any UHC because BO doesn’t want UHC. Hillary can lie to herself and/or justify her actions anyway that helps her sleep at night, but it ain’t gonna happen. So, no need for anyone here to be upset at the injustice of BO getting to be the one who signs such a bill. If there is ever any UHC in the next 20 years it will only be because Hillary gets elected POTUS in 2012. (2) BO is not going to win.
ok – the cards tell me John McCain wins.
Little Isis
Problem is that Americans are bamboozled easily. It’s hard to believe they have faith in a party that has spent the last 2 years rubber stamping or maning post offices.
I was even a little disappointed in Hillary. I didn’t see a single GOP name on that petition. I find it hard to believe that Snowe wouldn’t have been on board if asked.
{{{{ Regency }}}}
Sometimes it’s good to let the feelings out. Hang in there with us. Things are gonna work out.
“It was obvious that she and her hubby were comfy in their bodies by how they moved and danced”
Wait, what? That wasn’t the actual Todd Palin during the Drill Baby, Drilla dance. >__>
SOD, it was painful to watch as Hillary was savaged in front of our eyes and now to see the same thing being done to Palin hurts just as much but it also makes me angrier and it gives me the resolve and the knowledge that the sexism and misogyny used by Camp Obama is something worth fighting against. And I think there are many more quiet ones — conservatives, moderates and liberals — out there who feel the same way and they will show up and vote against the hatred and disunity incited by Obama and his minions.
Ange: The whole UHC thing is a strawman. One assumes that we can get UHC now so, naturally, since the only DIN (Democrat in Name) running is BO ppl assume he would be the one to sign it in. We’re not getting it in the next 4 yrs regardless of who’s president. It’s a straw man; now blow it down.
Simofish,
Do you realize how many voters are undecided? Those undecideds will go for the more familiar candidate, not the risky one. Are you using Tarot cards or what? Maybe I should get out my Ouija board?
Little Isis — I’ve read Michelle Whitedove too!
Not Todd? Oh, oops, who was it?
BO is about Reid and Pelosi continuing to collect six figures for naming Post Offices and screwing the American people. The great part about if Obama does win is that they wil be OUT OF EXCUSES as to why they can’t provide a health care solution. Come 2010 if they are still naming post offices the enablers of Obie will be out on their tukisses.
Faux!Todd
PUMA John — yep, that was the Todd Palin in that dance.
Regency — I read that it was Todd Palin — was it not him?
Oops LOL, I’d better edit the post. Tee hee. Fool me once, I must be GW Bush.
I predict they will address health care and it won’t be in a meaningful way. It will be up to us to make sure they are held accountable for it if they do.
Angie: It looked like him but they only said it was her but it looked a lot like him.
It was obvious that she and her hubby were comfy in their bodies by how they moved and danced, which is always a good sign to me.
That wasn’t really Todd Palin in the snow machine suit was it???
Today Robot-Speaker Pelosi said that Congress looks forward to working with President Obama and that it’s gonna be good. That’s her dream, right?
sorry sod — I actually think that there will be no health care reform under McCain or BO — in fact, I think the reason Obama got all that mystery $ & support was because the Dems in congress are just as beholden to the insurance companies as the Republicans are. Don’t forget, when Hillary tried to get UHC passed the first time there was a Dem. controlled congress that voted it down — a lot of them lost their seats after that (because the people back home saw they were full of sh!t) & they blamed Bill & Hill for that — which is how we got a Republican congress 2 years into Bill’s first term. The ONLY person around right now who actually wants to get us UHC is Hillary — and it will take her having the power of the WH behind her to get it done.
Hey, why am I in moderation? I didn’t even use the word r@cist.
I really do appreciate all of you, RD’s blog, and your dedication and stamina re doing what we as discarded Dems set out to do.
Defeating Obama and his messianic cult/demons, and bringing this new, heretofore unseen, Machiavellian Democratic party to its knees, and hopefully reviving the old party that we have known, trusted, and devoted our money and votes to.
In hopes of providing a bit of comfort and support, despite what the media/polls say and project, I personally have not seen a single change or movement toward Obama, since we became Pumas months ago.
Out here in my world, everyone I know who was committed to defeating Obama is still committed. In fact, I see and hear conversion taking place daily, and conviction being hardened regarding anti-Obama stances. I know of no one who has converted in favor of him, or the party.
Therefore, I personally have to believe that there is something truly fallacious about how well Obama is doing, and that in reality he and his vile new Democrats are in for a rude awakening election day.
I believe that, unless there is wholesale voter fraud as in the caucuses, results will prove that the true voters in this country, as a whole, are not as in the tank for, nor as enthralled with Obama as the media and his campaign are trying to lead us to believe.
Thanks again for all of your efforts, all of you. If we remain resolved, I still believe we hold the keys to this election.
Please release my comment from moderation.
Someone in the post below, said that Cannonfire had a Biden affair rumor. I went there and sure enough it is a woman “L”. So I googled Biden affair and came up with the news that Jill Biden is having an affair with Obama. Toooo gross to go there, who knew, Michelle is going to be soooo mad.
bostonboomer, on October 20th, 2008 at 8:32 pm Said:
Simofish,
Do you realize how many voters are undecided? Those undecideds will go for the more familiar candidate, not the risky one. Are you using Tarot cards or what? Maybe I should get out my Ouija board?
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bb, I’m not trying to be argumentative here, but how do you figure there are a lot of undecided voters? SUSA has very low estimates of undecided voters: 1%-2% in PA, VA, NM, eg. And how do you figure that the undecideds will go for the more familiar candidate? I’m not saying you’re wrong, I’m just asking how you know that, because it’s not something that’s obvious to me (maybe it should be ?)
Erased Todd — Christian Science Monitor reported not Todd.
I can’t pray anymore. I can’t wish anymore. I can’t hope anymore. I’m emotionally exhausted.
urge to compute — undecided voters always break for the more familiar candidate.
Liberty Belle
This woman amazes me. This quote has reduced me to a blubbering pile of tears.
angie!!!
SOD — is that why Obama is now doing the big early voting push?
did anyone see the latest rasmussen polls? besides the 10 pts spread in VA, they are basically tied in FL, MO, OH, NC and CO. I think that means McCain is winning all of those states….The VA is either an outlier or they’re trying to suppress the vote. VA is a must win for Obama I think.
IMO, anyone who is undecided up to election day is hesitant, not a risk taker and will most likely vote for the safer, “known” candidate. McCain dwarfs Obama in experience. He is the safe bet.
Hi all!! Take heart. It ain’t over yet, in fact, I think that from now until the election things are gonna heat up. The media is in Haka mode and is just reading Obie’s press releases for him. Ignore them—send good vibes to McCain.
Angie’s getting radical again!
kc 🙂
gonna go watch my new bff–Hannity. will let you all know if anything new has hit.
OT but did any of you read Joseph Cannon’s blog today where he teases us about a Joe Biden affair with a mysterious Lady “L”???
you too, Lady Boomer——and I loved your diary.
Yes gary — and it is b.s. I already posted exactly how this election is going to go down:
289 EVs McCain & 249 EVs Obama. All the “toss up states” (FL, OH, NV, NC, MO, WV, IN) are going McCain; all the “leaning” states — both for McCain (GA, MN) & for Obama (CO, VA, NM & MI) are going for McCain. The only states Obama is going to win are going to be the solid Dem. ones — 249 EVs — and he will not win those by the margins they are saying. Everything else is going for McCain — if they were going for Obama they would be “solid” by now — all the undecideds are definitely going for McCain.
New post up
I am in love with Hannity. I just wish he would dump Colms the 5th wheel.
myiq — how am I going radical? and what do you mean by “again”?
PUMAS are Patriots!
We must hold the line!
We must push forward!!
No retreat!!!!
We must achieve victory on election day!!!
Like the brave Patriots that fought the Redcoats over 200 years ago to win Independence from England, we PUMAS are fighting a very powerful force that must be defeated.
Do not be discouraged.
Do not give up.
We own our votes!
They are ours and ours alone!
Obama does not own our votes!
Stand up for what you know is right!
As Hillary told us, keep going! Keep going! Keep going!
Viva la Puma!!
Viva Liberty!
Country First!!
Onward to VICTORY in November!
NOBAMA!
OOh—go watch Hannity–Joe the Plumber is on.
urge to compute,
I can’t find it right now, but the LA Times recently reported a poll that showed that around 18% of voters are either unsure how they will vote or think they could change their minds between now and election day. Most of the polls I look at have at least 5% undecided, which could be enough to change the result.
The reason I think undecideds may choose McCain is that during the primaries late deciders tended to go to Hillary. I’m guessing that is because these voters felt that BO was a bigger risk.
I don’t know what will happen. I’m just speculating based on past experiences and observations.
Colmes is a moron — oil royalties is NOT the same as tax money.
I’m ok.. i just have my ‘down’ moments. It has been a taxing year for me personally, emotionally and physically, in addition to this election.
Obama’s grandmother is very ill and he is going to Hawaii to visit her according to Fox News.
IropnMan — ROAR!!!!
Muting my way through H&C, because the Don Knotts/Scarecrow is unbearable, but they just said new FOX polls show “further tightening in key swing states.” Go Johnny Go!
Jeff Beatty just kicked John Kerry’s ass in a live debate.
That was fun!
Colmes is a moron — oil royalties is NOT the same as tax money.
He has to sputter his way through some kind of moral equivalency argument, no matter what the subject.
catarina: where, what happened?
SOD, me too. I’d never heard of early voting before this year. Just absentee ballot as an alt to day-of voting.
Lady Boomer; You put so much time and effort into your posts and I am in awe of talent like yours and the other diarists on this blog. Great post, fantastic points, reasoned argument. My ideal would be that Hillary would be sworn in come January but because that is no longer an option I am pulling for McCain for a variety of reasons that have more to do with the hateful DNC than anything else.
Oh, and I loathe and detest Obama.
“Obama’s grandmother is very ill and he is going to Hawaii to visit her according to Fox News.”
..will that be sans family?
Joe the Plumber is doing just fine.
In such a spontaneous moment, Hillary reveals her selfless compassion and commitment to ‘the invisible people’ of our nation.
I have been on a forced diet away from MSNBC for months now but I did turn into the last 10 minutes of KO’s broadcast and my first reaction was how crazy he looks and sounds. This is a guy I would not want to be caught alone with. The man is in dire need of anger management classes. Scary!
Reg…you and I need to do a group hug. It’s awful isn’t it?
{{{{{{ Hugs to Reg }}}}}}
fif,
the full debate will be up on Jeffbeatty.com shortly
john kerry must have skidmarks in his drawers
what a blowhard
beatty nailed him on rumors of his being obama’s s of s
made him look damned foolish on several issues
told him he “has blood on his hands”
beatty did not support going into iraq
NECN will run parts of the debate at 10
mods had to keep telling kerry to shut up
hehe put a lid on it , Kerry 😉
When I heard Hillary say she visualized standing on the White House lawn while Obama signs new health care legislation, I welled up, too. (Couldn’t cry too hard, because driving, and had to see straight.)
Hillary deserves to sign it as POTUS, and if anything does get passed, I can imagine she deserves most of the credit.
Irony: I heard that employees of pharmaceutical and health insurance firms were told NOT to talk with Hillary volunteers during the primaries, or else they could lose their jobs. In other words, they were told to vote for Obama because their employers did NOT want Hillary’s health care plan, and Obama’s was deemed ineffective. My source: A Pennsylvania volunteer for Hillary. Did any of you hear the same thing?
It also hurts my soul to see so many people’s dismissive attitude toward Sarah Palin. I may not agree 100% with her policies, and I know she’s no Hillary, but she is an accomplished woman who has done some pretty amazing things in her 44 years.
Bostonboomer,
Biden said that you can count on Obama NOT getting the undecideds so any state where he’s not polling above 50% he’ll lose. And he also said to forget about VA.
Loved the Splash Video.. Thanks for posting it!
PJ, Thanks for your appreciation! I know, I can’t watch Olberman; he seems like a raving maniac.
Eek, and then there’s Biden claiming that the world will test Obama, and he’s fear-mongering. The Hannity response is that this means Obie is weak. Biden is doing a great job for Obie, dontcha think? Same ole Joe. Keep it up Joe, and you’ll help fulfill our wildest dreams.
angienc, Is NC a tossup state? Just saw on NY Times. I thought it was a red state.
well, considering Hillary being the next president is still at 1% probability according to Intrade, and that contract is the third largest traded contract – I’d say Hillary Clinton being the 44th Pres is my wildest dream.
CWaltz — yes…our Hillary was the only voice crying out in the wilderness.
It also hurts my soul to see so many people’s dismissive attitude toward Sarah Palin. I may not agree 100% with her policies, and I know she’s no Hillary, but $hit, she is an accomplished woman who has done some pretty amazing things in her 44 years. She is someone that people saw something special in and they sought her out for these positions. She fulfilled their expectations and beyond.
And quite frankly, there is nothing she’s done in Alaska that I would’ve found problematic. She really cares about the people she represents and it shows.
She deserves respect and I am angry and frustrated at the way she is treated. I hurt for her, her family and for every woman whose accompishments are dismissed in the treatment Sarah receives.
I hurt for every woman in this country because of what has been done to Hillary and Palin. I agree with you whole heartedly.
But I have to go upstairs and take a shower so I will be back in about a half an hour.
fif
beatty also stuck up for Sarah Palin while lurch made faces.
cant believe i ever voted for that guy, ugh.
I agree with you angie
Biden is like a gift that keeps on giving.
Damn, I forgot to watch that debate tonight on NE News!
fif: Most of us here in MA voted for Kerry in the past so you are not the only one regretting it. I am sure he will win again but it won’t be with my vote.
ellurian, glad you enjoyed it, and h/t to my friend V, who made the splashcast for me.
jvsp, on October 20th, 2008 at 9:14 pm Said:
His grandmother was released form the hospital last week.
It is all too convenitnet, IMO.
here’s the real story in AHawaii and why Obama is hgeading back to the island.
October 20, 2008
Emergency Petition in Hawaii Supreme Court seeks to expedite release of Barack Obama’s family records
Supreme Court filing supplements and expands on Circuit Court lawsuit
ANDY MARTIN
Executive Editor
ContrarianCommentary.com
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE:
OBAMA HAWAII INVESTIGATION MOVES INTO HIGHER GEAR WITH EMERGENCY HAWAI’I SUPREME COURT PETITION SEEKING TO EXPEDITE RELEASE OF BIRTH CERTIFICATE AND RELATED RECORDS
INVESTIGATOR ANDY MARTIN WILL OUTLINE THE PROGRESS OF HIS INVESTIGATION AND PROJECTED NEWS PEGS OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL DAYS.
(HONOLULU, HI)(October 20, 2008) The leader of the national anti-Obama movement, legendary Chicago Internet columnist and Obama author Andy Martin, will hold a Honolulu news conference today, October 20, 2008 to announce he has asked the Hawaii Supreme Court to entertain an emergency writ expediting the release of Senator Barack Obama’s secret birth records.
Obama is scared that the truth is going to be found out!
Also, Obama’s attorneys filed yet another motion TODAY to try and have the Federal lawsuit in PA (Berg v. Obama, DNC, et al.) delayed and dismissed. The federal lawsuit in PA, if granted, would force Obama to prove he is a natural born US Citizen.
Where there’s smoke, there’s fire.
Obama is flying to Hawaii to try and stop the truth from coming out about his past!
pj
that was me, voting for lurch. so ashamed.
necn will run the most excellent debate highlights again at 10
if beatty didn’t have an “R” next to his name Kerry would be all done on 11/4. he is that good.
allegedly beatty brought some disabled vets to the debate who had tried to contact Kerry for assistance and claimed their calls were never returned.
Sujesh, on October 20th, 2008 at 9:26 pm Said:
Sujesh, NC will go McCain-Palin.
Obama is wasting his millions in NC.
I think we have a better chance.
Not Todd.
I’m going to visualize HILLARY signing her own healthcare plan into law and if anyone else does it I swear to god almighty I’m going to D.C. with HUGE signs saying “Thank YOU Hillary” and try to get thousands of others to join me so no media can ignore that we know who really brought that gem into being.
But I am not discouraged, not at all. We’re a movement born out of hellish times but, ALL the best movements were. And all the people who ever joined together to bring true justice started as “small” and “underfunded” Not one good thing that ever got done was done by some huge rolling, red tape laden group.
Women didn’t get the vote from the established groups. They got it from a small group who broke away against the g’damnedable democrats and who stood up to them.
Same deal, different year. We’ve got work ahead, and we have vision. All the things you can think of Lady we can have, with detours aplenty perhaps but, we will have them.
urgetocompute
Pollsters phrase the question “If the election were held today…” thereby reducing the number of undecideds that result.
I agree angie.
BTW — where have I been?? I never heard of this before.
Call me jaded but this sounds just too convenient.
Haven’t read all the comments but wanted to jump down to say that donating to Democrats for Principal before Party to place an ad during the world series is a great idea as it may counteract the bullshit 30 minute ad by BO beforehand.
angienc and little isis – I recently read Michelle Whitedove as well, and her October 10th blog entry was a doozy! When she listed all those scenarios, a), b), etc. and e) all of the above, I wondered what a post-election chaotic mess! Felt the one about Hillary making a deal with a shadow government was a bit creepy, and not sure what to make of that one, especially when she claims it was in Hillary’s contract (before she came here) to be the first woman POTUS…
Anyway, let us remember that Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton’s Birthday is October 26th.
To Lady Boomer: I have erstwhile bandmates who are Moody Blues (and Beatles) fanatics. We’ll get to jam together for our owned belated B-day celebrations this weekend, and you can bet there’ll be a Moody Blues tune in the mix.
Liberty Belle — Oh nice, have happy belated b’days and a jam for me, too. Mine was on 9/28. BTW, I’ve sung in quite a few bands in my day — especially love doing da harmony. Referring to my post, when I mentioned that arts were taught in school, I had a brilliant chorus teacher in grade school that grounded me in harmony for life.
I supposed my wildest dream would be that Obarky and Joe the Plugger would be consumed by spontaneous combustion. The hell within finally making it’s way out.
they can never take away from us who we are. they can never take away the knowledge that we have that this election was stolen by the party that most of us believed in. as someones said before, they left us, we didn’t leave the dem party.
when you believe in something so good and pure, they can never tear you down or take away they confidence that you know what they did. and they will forever know that we were watching and got it. somewhere, somehow, they will get their come uppance. we may never see it, but rest assured, you don’t act like this and get away with it. some day, nobama’s daugters will know what he did. they will hear about it and there will be a little shame, because they will never know if it is true or not. they will wonder about their dad’s honesty. they might even hear about the people that protested the dishonesty of their actions.
don’t worry my fellow dems in grief, we know. we watched. we did what we could. they will never take that away from us and it is a part of history…along with the misogyny, the middle finger salute, the media buy out and the for sale delegates. we are the winners, not them.
Everybody. Buck up. Cheer up. And, keep talking.
First. What about those polls that show Obama Biden over McCain Palin?
Maybe the mania, hype, noise, thuggishness, media fawning, …, fraudulent voter registrations are propping up a fantasy.
http://wizbangblog.com/content/2008/10/20/yahoo-indeed.php
Then again, maybe not. But, you’ve all done a hell of a job. However the election turns out, congratulations.
About my poll — don’t believe the stats. I followed a link from our admin page, and it seems that an Obot site put out the word to crash it. And they’re giving my post lots of hits from their link to it. Oh.
I’m new at this polling thing, and should have known better than to have included BO as a choice. I was just being fair. Hmph, what a concept.
Another good post LBNYC. I think alot of my dreaming these days is just to find peace with this decision I am forced to make. Thanks for provoking a few more thoughts….you always do.
Lady Boomer,
I was just about to address that. I saw that and was like, Uhh, I think you just got Obamabot-ted.
Thanks, soupcity! . . . decision we’re being forced to make is unfortunately the right characterization.
Marissa — turnabout is fair play, and the poll crashers will get a surprise soon. I’m just giving it a little time.
There has been several references to the Obama St Louis rally that drew 150,000 people. St Louis borders Illinois and is the largest city east of Springfield, Illinois is East St Louis. I do not know the population of East St Louis, but it is a pretty large city with more then half being Afro Americans. Rest assured that a very large portion of the 150,000 came out of the ILLINOIS city of East St Louis. Missouri Has two population centers and they are St Louis and Kansas city, both are Democratic because of the large number of AA voters. The rest of the state is Republican and they out number the Democrats.The race will be close, but I believe that McCain will carry Missouri on election day.
“Wildest Dreams….” Hmmmmm
In 2 or 3 years, when Obama is not able to deliver on any of the promises he has so arrogantly made to the American people—-Huey Long-like chicken in every pot……
The same bloggers and media types who so enabled him by trashing Hillary Clinton and John McCain will turn on him, and the same venom his surrogates used to promote him now, will become the norm in describing his failures to actually DO the pie-in-the-sky crap he never really intended to do, but said he would, just to get elected.
And THEN, Michelle Obama will know how Hillary felt as First Lady, will know that even disillusioned bloggers and pundits begin to turn on “Messiahs” who don’t deliver, and she’ll be the target of the same venom her husband’s surrogates turned toward the Clintons, the McCains, and the Palins.
It’s inevitable, really. He can’t deliver what he has promised, economically or otherwise. It’s NOT gonna happen.
And when his supporters finally realize all of that, they’ll turn on him.
Hide and watch.
My wildest election dream is for a Democratic Party insider to grow a conscience and blow the whistle on the whole corrupt plan to keep the Clinton wing of the party from getting back into power including naming names and providing written and audio documentation.