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Wednesday: Whoops!

Gimme Coffee!

Gimme Coffee!

I woke up late this morning.  Cold medicine will do that to you.  Even Hypergraphia the muse is still sleeping. So, this is an open thread.

Here are some ice breakers to talk about:

  • When Obama challenged McCain to say it to his face, did he mean at tonight’s debate?
  • Now that Obama has won tonight’s debate, how will the media say he did it?  With his grace and eloquence or his mastery of the material or his inspirational vision?
  • And now for something completely different.  In The Wild Side, the NYTimes reports on a form of cancer in Tasmanian Devils that is spreadable.  They don’t get it from spreading a virus, like the Human Papilloma virus (HPV).  They spread it by contact with the cancer *cells* themselves.  Oddly enough, this is possible in humans as well, although it is very rare.  In the Tasmanian Devil case, it could lead to extinction.

Oh, and one more thing: We know that DFA is planning to train activists to put peer pressure on their friends, families and canvassing list. How do we know? They say so. Here’s the email from Armad inviting me to a training session to see how it’s done:

DFA Member –

This election is going to boil down to one thing: turnout. That’s good news, because that means the key to victory is in your hands.

Even better news: Our Get Out The Vote campaign will help you do it.

Studies show that peer-to-peer voter contact is the most effective way to increase turnout¹. When you ask friends to vote and they commit, they are much more likely to follow through. The same goes for neighbors, co-workers, and family. The statistics prove it — when you ask someone you know to vote, they won’t want to let you down.

That’s why our Get Out The Vote campaign focuses on mobilizing your social network. This Tuesday evening, DFA Night School returns for a special 50 State Victory GOTV session.

CLICK HERE TO RSVP

DFA Night School Special Edition – MyGOTV
Tuesday, Oct 14, 2008
8:30 Eastern Time

We’ll teach you the tactics and tools you’ll need to deliver results.

Our strategy is based on some of the best research available on voter turnout. Several studies show that voters turn out at higher rates when they believe their peers or neighbors will know if they’ve turned out or not.

It makes sense too. We all know that peer-pressure doesn’t end in high school. Let’s put peer-pressure to work and deliver victory for Barack and progressive candidates up and down the ballot.

Join us for Night School and help us get 3 million voters to the polls by Election Day.

RSVP RIGHT NOW TO GET THE SKILLS TO WIN

Our campaign also focuses on voting early. That’s because voting early cuts down long lines on Election Day. It frees up the campaign to focus on less likely voters. And it eliminates unexpected circumstances that might keep someone from voting on Election Day.

With our campaign, once you actually vote, we’ll send you a free “I voted for Obama” bumper sticker. It’s just one more way to make sure your friends and neighbors see you are working to make change happen.

Don’t miss this important Special Edition Night School.

RSVP TODAY!

Thank you for everything you do.

-Arshad

Arshad Hasan, Executive Director
Democracy for America

P.S. If you haven’t yet pledged to vote for Obama and get 3 more Obama voters to the polls by Election Day, now’s the time.

CLICK HERE TO PLEDGE TO WIN

¹ Yale University Institution for Social and Policy Studies: Lessons from Recent GOTV Experiments – Alan Gerber, Mark Grebner, Donald Green and Christopher Larimer (2006)
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Well, isn’t that special? Howard Dean’s brother Jim’s activist base training thousands of Obots to get in your face to put peer pressure on you to vote for Obama just like in high school. Research based psychological warfare, just what we need from another presidential candidate. And Obama is behind this 100%. I suppose there’s nothing illegal about it. It just feels really disgusting to me. Like siccing the popular clique on the rest of us. Aren’t we allowed to make these decisions on our own without peer pressure?

168 Responses

  1. Poor Taz, he was always my favorite.

  2. Will this lead to Taz body condums?

  3. I was never able to unsubscribe from those e-mails either. And I never supported Dean!
    here’s a funny ad against Senator “Present”
    http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2008/10/15/the-chicken-button/

  4. Good morning all!

    Prolix? have you had your bran flakes yet? I am assumin so, because you’ve now become regular.

    All this dark news and now the Taz Devil. I am going to have high hopes for the events of the day in spite of it all.

  5. Now that Obama has won tonight’s debate, how will the media say he did it? With his grace and eloquence or his mastery of the material or his inspirational vision?

    I think it’s just because he’s gonna look so darn presidential!! just like W after 9-11. (when the media said THAT, I realized I had no idea what ‘presidential’ looks like. I still don’t )

    and here I’ve been talking to friends and neighbors my whole life, never realizing there were classes to teach you how to do it. I bet I’ve been doing it wrong all along. I had this stupid idea it was an honest exchange of ideas, not a coercian tactic. oh well, live and learn…..

  6. I can’t help but wonder why all of this convincing is necessary if, according to the polls, Obama has this election in the bag?

  7. Morning there Joaniebone — yes, I’m here, therefore regular, lest anyone thinking of…well, you get the point.

  8. “yes, I’m here, therefore regular”

    There marks the first good thing to happen today. There shall be more to follow. Lots more–if Prolix ccontinues to eat bran.

    Now, aren’t we due for some exciting developments today?

  9. Just saw an interesting point on “Morning Joe” about the spin around who is going negative.

    In Virginia alone, during the first three weeks of September, BZero ran over 1,300 negative ads, McCain ran 8. Yeppers, that is 8, one less than 9.

  10. I am with the camp that believes the flakey youth vote will not come out in big numbers, because they have been told he won already. Part of the reason I have been able to accept these distorted polls.

  11. If I continue to eat bran, the wrong track/right track numbers are sure to take a turn for the better.

  12. Studies show that threats of violence and rioting also help to persuade your friends and loved ones to vote for Obama. Donate $30 dollars now to the campaign and you could win a new Glock 17T 9 mm FX just in time to wave it in your family’s faces on election day. There is nothing that shows your committment to change more than breaking laws to help elect Barrack Obama.

  13. Mawm: well said.

    He attracts vigilante mentality-not rational thinking. Your snark is barely distinguishable from the truth.

  14. The Obama campaign doesn’t sound confident.

  15. I am off and running, having expired my alotted time before work 😦

    See you tonight, PUMA family!

    (on a fun note–I am in charge of choosing uniforms for staff where I work, among them- fitness staff. I am pouring through PUMA catalogues now. It’s the simple pleasures that really get you by these days.)

  16. Looks like the DFA and the Obama campaign is trying to figure out how to impose a caucus by other means.

    Are we still allowed to vote in private?

  17. This cheered me up yesterday. I went to help out at my kids school (in the office), and discovered that the lady I was helping is so NOT voting for Obama. And she said her hubby, and engineer, will vote for JM too, based on the experience factor. We had quite a nice time agreeing that Obama is untrustworthy and arrogant, and had NO reason not to pick HRC for VP.
    🙂

  18. A friend forwarded this to me from the Rightwingnut blog. It’s pretty funny.

    This is surely small of me, but if Obama wins, I plan on giving him as much of a chance as the Democrats gave George Bush.

    I will gleefully forward every paranoid anti-Obama rumor that I see, along with YouTube footage of his verbal missteps. I will laugh and email heinous anti-Obama photoshop jobs, and maybe even learn photoshop myself to create some.

    I’ll buy anti-Obama books, and maybe even a “Not My President” t-shirt. I’m sure that the mainstream bookstores won’t carry them, but I’ll be on the lookout for anti-Obama calendars and stuff like that.

    I will not wish America harm, and if the country is hurt (economically, militarily, or diplomatically) I will truly mourn. But i will also take some solace that it occurred under Obama’s watch, and will find every reason to blame him personally and fan the flames.

  19. Obots: Forget the Bradley Effect and Focus on Basic Math

    Since team Obama is measuring drapes for the Oval Office and tingles are running up and down the political pundits and news anchors legs, let’s let a skunk into their garden party, shall we. The race for the White House is over on November 4th. And, contrary to the main stream media proclamations, the battle ground races are up for grabs. Let’s really look at the polls:

    Every poll has a margin of error. During the primary, KO took every opportunity to remind viewers Obama was closer to Hillary when he was behind and further ahead when he was leading. Now, with three weeks to go in the elections, the media has dusted off the Kil Hil playbook; John McCain can’t catch Obama, he’s “erratic”, he thinks he is entitled to the presidency, he’s racist. However, the impartial media is making one gigantic cricket sound on the subject of polling sampling error.

    Rasmussen Reports latest data:

    North Carolina: 48% Obama, 48 McCain, +/- 3
    Ohio: 94% Obama, 47% McCain, +/- 3
    Missouri: 50% Obama, 47% McCain, +/- 3
    Nevada: 51% Obama, 47% McCain, +/- 4
    Virginia: 50% Obama, 47% McCain, +/- 3

    Colorado: 51% Obama, 45% McCain, +/- 3
    Florida: 51% Obama, 46% McCain, +/- 3
    New Mexico: 49% Obama, 44% McCain, +/- 4

    Statistically, John McCain could win every state listed above if the election was held today. This possibility excludes the undecided voter for each contest. Over the next 21 days just a positive change in trend for McCain could be enough to send Barack back to the Senate.

    Do the math; Obama could lose enough states to fall short of the 270 electoral votes needed to hand Michelle’s new drapes.

    The counterrevolution will not be televised. It’s viral.

  20. Rendell doesn’t like Obama. I don’t know how much longer some of these people will continue pretending to like Obama. Strickland doesn’t even bother.

    “In Washington, D.C., if we lose all of our supporters, all the people who look out for us, there will be one man left standing,” he said, “but that man will be a woman, Hillary Rodham Clinton.” 😦

    http://ta-nehisicoates.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/10/is_ed_rendell_still_pissed.php

  21. Ah, peer pressure, what a magical powerful instrument, whether hounding some poor kid for Acting Too Gay or slapping a lower-case A to mark another as Like a Total Slut? for making out with Studly McBragg.

    Yes, let’s unleash the awesome Pester Power of that wonderful adolescent tool of persuasion, to be wielded by that Wonderful Adolescent Tool, Obama, for he is Teh One, The Only Individual That Matters, and vicariously upon whose every whim and miffedness his multitudes can feed!

  22. Peer pressure, otherwise known as bullying, or Obamulling, which is sort of like pummeling one with BO BS.

  23. Thomas
    Ohio s/b 49%?

  24. Riverdaughter, I find these agressive, bullying tactics disgusting, too. What’s next? Calling your so-called friends repeatedly on election day to harass them to vote for your candidate? Or rounding up people and shoving them into a Black Maria — I mean van — and then standing behind them while they vote?

    Thomas, I like your stats on Ohio: 94% Obama, 47% McCain. I guess you are figuring in all those falsely registered voters! 🙂

  25. How did Obama win the debate?
    I am taking a cue from Politico – which has a different reason for Obama to win the day.
    My favorite one so far (I stopped reading after a while) was “He did nothing. But he didn’t need to” (Ok, it’s a variation of “his penis didn’t fall off” – but it has the advantage of setting the bar where no surprises can move it)

  26. I think the MSM have are enacting a plan to intimidate McCain from bringing up unpleasant embarassing subjects for BO tonight. They are showing polls that say that voters are turning away from McCain because he is attacking O instead of speaking to the people with his plans for the economy.
    If they can convince Mc and voters that attacks are bad for McCain, and can shut him down tonight, they will be in good shape.

  27. I can totally believe the Obama campaign would use (literally) high school peer pressure tactics to thug their way into votes. It’s been their M.O. (along with worse) all along.

    But what I can’t believe is that they are so far gone in the cult as to brag on it.

  28. NYT headline this am says polls say that attacks backfire on McCain. Now I really think those polls are rigged!

    As soon as the truth finally starts to surface, it is “a distraction”; it is “negative campaigning”!!!!!

    I don’t believe that the (finally) surfacing of the ACORN story and Ayers are hurting McCain. I think headlines saying so are an attempt to damp down the truth. Hell, McCain did not even get credit for being a gentleman and defending Obama.

    I feel like I am going crazy. You see one thing and then the MSM tells you it is the opposite.

    btw, I read that the SNL skit on the bailout, that made fun of the Dems, was scrubbed.

  29. This will be too funny. If we start to get “peer pressure” from our neighbors, I would have to turn it on them and ask them when they last voted.

    In our old neighborhood, we actually saw some of our neighbors in the voting lines. In this new one, we have never seen a neighbor voting on either election day or in early voting.

    And we’ve never voted because of peer pressure. Our old-fashioned motive is simply to make our voice heard, although that has been diminished this year since our vote in the primary did not matter to the Democratic Party.

  30. here in So Cal, I see almost no bumper stickers on cars, no signs on lawns…. I find it rather odd.

    I’m not believing the polls either.

  31. NYT — who cares, they’ve been sucking up to Obama since last year.

    The campaigns have their own internal polling that tells them what’s what, I’m sure the Republicans are on top of that much. What’s hurting the campaign is the fact that 1) Democrats are perceived to be better on the economy; and 2) Obama is perceived to be a Democrat.

    The NYT polling is haka to make the general public believe that negative campaigning is hurting McCain . It’s just the same h.s. peer pressure the Obots are pushing, NYT-style.

  32. Thomas, on October 15th, 2008 at 8:54 am Said:

    “Obots: Forget the Bradley Effect and Focus on Basic Math

    Do the math …”

    _______________________________________________________

    Thomas, I’m a Hillary supporter, through and through. Always was, always will be. I despise what I have come to believe BO stands for. I feel truly sorry for the people who feel they have to mindlessly support his candidacy.

    However, this sort of simple calculation is not “doing the math”. I’ve done the math. I’m a math professor! If you look very carefully at the – very suspect, noisy, data (form the RCP average, e.g.) – the clear and obvious trend since the Lehman Bros collapse has BO’s lead accelerating. Sarah Palin’s speech seemed to knock a hole in BO’s lead, but the financial crisis has turned people away from McCain and toward BO. That is what the data indicates, very clearly.

    RD has commented several times on the messy and unreliable nature of polls. RCP is at least a daily average, smoothing out some of the extremes. Voting intentions are exactly that – intentions, and until the vote is over – and maybe not even then! – we will not know who supports whom. But for some time now it has been very clear that the existing polling data puts BO in front, and accelerating his lead.

    The data, and the math. only reflect larger events. Let’s hope some very large, and very important event, takes place in the next couple of weeks that really pulls back BO’s current poll lead.

  33. Downticket, I personally think Rendell doesn’t like Obama. Last Sunday he said, in a jovial way, that he had to twist arms in Chicago to get Obama to come out to Philly. Rendell can be very jolly while twisting the knife; a bit like Palin.
    I think Rendell thinks he, as a loyal Clintonite, will be shut out of an Obama admin, and his “bitter, gun-clinging” constitutents will suffer for it.

  34. Riverdaughter, I just sent you an email.

  35. Thomas – fantastic analysis! Forgot the ol’ margin of error! So many ways to bamboozle us with numbers!
    They are also doing a haka on McCain to prevent him from bringing up Wright
    http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2008/10/15/race-card-wallace-waved-to-preempt-wright-attacks/

  36. Hillary in the grey pantsuit. This and the dark blue one are my favourites

  37. The outright thuggery going on in this campaign is just blowing my mind and I can’t imagine that the inner alarms are sounding in the general population. Understanding that most people aren’t following this as closely as we do, is it really possible that “normal folks” can’t sense the danger? I have an older cousin who was a German war bride. She grew up under Hitler and was 16 when the war ended. She called my Mom the other day crying. Having watched what happened in her birth country, she’s convinced she’s seeing the same thing happen to her beloved America. She sees in BO the same cult of personality, the beginnings of brown-shirt tactics, the facist goons surrounding him and the near hysteria of the followers. How do we wake up our fellow citizens? And if we manage to beat back this onslaught to our liberty (which I truly believe this campaign represents) will we learn from this and work together to stop the fraud before we have to do this again?

  38. NYT has been in the tank for Obama since he decided to run.

  39. The op-ed in the Atlantic linked above was interesting. The author quotes Rendell and then says, basically, the narrative that only African Americans, college kids and elites will vote for Obama is proving untrue, that the mantra that he could never get Hispanics, Jews, etc. is untrue. I dunno. I belong to FB and the ones in the Obama camp are primarily professors, students and African Americans, although I have “friended” several African Americans who don’t like Obama. Interestingly, they are GLBT who get it. Whatever the polls may say, and whatever may be the result on Nov. 4, Obama remains the divider, not the uniter he claims to be, very similar to Dubya in the way he manipulates the media to act like he is so far ahead and popular. Remember, Gore won, even when the media said it was impossible. The Supremes won’t install Obama like they did Dubya. I believe McCain will be the next prez.

  40. votermom, on October 15th, 2008 at 9:37 am

    Rendell has disliked Obama since he called him and told him he was going to be the nominee. I think he knows Obama types very well.

  41. Here’s some support for the 30% solution, Iceland blames male ego for financial meltdown.

    According to one government minister, this is all too typical: “The men make the mess and the women come in to clean it up.”

  42. I live in South Florida, an area where Obama has to pick up huge in order to offset the rest of the state. When Kerry ran, even in my Republican neighborhood there were at least 5 Kerry signs. So far I have counted 3 Obama signs in total. Unfortunately for Obama, I have found more McCain/Palin signs and even a couple Sarah! signs than Bush signs in 2004.

    For many years I have owned several rental properties in an African American neighborhood. One of them is vacant . We have been at the house painting and cleaning prior to letting in a new tenant. I have been shocked by the number of African American neighbors that have told me they do not connect with Obama. They feel that it is irrelevant who they vote for because nothing will change for them. I was also surprised that none of my neighbors have placed Obama signs on their yards. There are alot of strong churchgoers that do not agree with liberals. In 2004 some neighbors placed Kerry/Edwards signs. What is going on? .

  43. My family and I were all clinton supporters and no one likes O. However, most of them, including my husband, are going to vote for BO. Since we are Jewish, I find this rather shocking. I keep working on them, but it does seem hopeless. They think Mc/Palin is worse.
    They have drunk the Kool Aid.
    I am shocked that these people will pull a lever for BO, but I will keep working it until it is over.

  44. I now have a McCain/Palin bumper sticker beside my Hillary sticker on my car. Yesterday as I was driving home from work, some goon tried to run me off the freeway while he was heatedly mouthing something and pointing at me ( I thought at first he wanted me to let him into the lane) and inching his car towards mine. he then sped off across two lanes of traffic at high speed. Obama bumper sticker on the back. I’m also getting the silent and nasty treatment from coworkers. This is craziness….

  45. Aren’t we allowed to make these decisions on our own without peer pressure?

    Why no, we aren’t — we are too dumb, r@cist and/or misinformed to make these decisions.

    The creepiest part of the whole thing is this:

    “Several studies show that voters turn out at higher rates when they believe their peers or neighbors will know if they’ve turned out or not.”

    Yikes! Big Brother anyone? Please don’t report me — I voted, I swear!!

  46. Fox News just reported that 90% of CEO’s prefer McCain to Obama when it comes to creating new jobs, and the CEO of Godfather’s Pizza who is talking about it is a black guy. He’s says Obama’s programs promote socialism, and will slow down the economy. He says Obama is being advising by people who have never made a payroll. Interesting.

  47. today come what may I am praying for peace for all of us….
    this election has taught me more than any other experience what I can control and what I cannot.

  48. I also heard a radio ad from obama trashing mccain’s healt plan, but when it came to talking about his all he said was he would “reduce costs” and “focus on prevention”..in other words nothing. I guess he has completely thrown UHC under the bus.

  49. Be careful what you wish for – you may get it. I wanted the democrats back in power – forgot to specify they were not supposed to behave worse than the GOP
    http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2008/10/15/what-cannon-said/

  50. pretty stark difference they made… obama’s economic advisors are politicians and academics…. mccains economic advisors are current/former CEOs

  51. gary
    that healthcare ad runs non-stop on my TV in NYC (and on Direct TV). Probably because of NJ and CT. And you’re right – it’s completely empty. been turning off the teevee lately when it comes on. or switching channels.

  52. Obama’s Health Plan: “Don’t get sick”

  53. Did you all see Obama’s new denial of ACORN? The lying never stops.

    My favorite line: his concern for voter suppression. After caucus fraud, FL & MI, the RBC meeting, and the roll call vote–he’s concerned about voter suppression. Every day he gives me a new reason to be disgusted.

    From Boston.com:

    Obama Seeks Distance From Acorn

    Posted by Foon Rhee, deputy national political editor October 14, 2008 05:24 PM

    Barack Obama took time out from debate preparations today to weigh in on the increasingly loud controversy over an activist group’s voter registration drive.

    The Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now, known as ACORN, claims to have registered 1.3 million young people, minorities, and working-class voters. But some of those registration cards have listed dead or nonexistent people and are being investigated in at least eight states.

    Republican John McCain, and today his running mate Sarah Palin, have called on Obama to take control of ACORN’s activities. “Obama has a responsibility to rein in ACORN and prove that he is willing to fight voter fraud,” she told radio talk show host Rush Limbaugh today.

    But Obama told reporters in Ohio today that he his campaign has no direct ties with ACORN and that he is concerned that the criticism is designed to discourage voters.

    “We’ve got the best voter registration, turnout, and volunteer operation in politics right and we don’t need ACORN’s help,” Obama said. “What I want to make sure of, though, is that this is not used as an excuse for the kind of voter suppression tactics that we’ve seen in the past. Let’s make sure everybody is voting, everybody is registered, everybody is doing this is a lawful way.”

    On Friday, six GOP leaders wrote to Attorney General Michael Mukasey to urge him to make sure ballots by ineligible or fraudulent voters are not counted on Nov. 4, the Associated Press reports.

  54. Hi everyone!

    Well my neighbor, who often has trouble stringing together two sentences together coherently, now has a BO sign in her yard.

    Her reason, “he’s cool.”

    God help me.

  55. Arabella

    That’s our health plan too. My partner Amy was going to retire at the end of the year, but is hesitating now. IF I could have her on my health insurance at the small college where I work here in TN, she probably would’ve retired last year. But that ain’t gonna happen anytime soon. Scary times.

    Marsha

  56. angry artist, I feel your pain. I am GLBT, not Jewish, but many GLBT people simply will not believe Obama is against them even with the Family Faith and Values Tour. They don’t believe it is real, they won’t google it, they don’t want to know. They say stuff like, “What about Clinton and DOMA” as if that makes it OK that Obama hates gays. Obama was very pro-Palestinian while in Chicago and absolutely anti-Israel, but once you have Obotulism there seems to be little hope of a cure.

  57. Obama also blamed the employees of ACORN for the fraud, not ACORN themselves. I wonder how all those union members feel about Obama blaming the little guy and siding with management. but seriously, how do you say with a straight face, “it’s not ACORN’s fault, its their employees’ fault”?

  58. “Aren’t we allowed to make these decisions on our own without peer pressure?”

    Judging by the email messages I got this morning: NO.

  59. New ads coming out from Let Freedom Ring?
    http://smartgirlpolitics.blogspot.com/2008/10/let-freedom-ring-starts-its-5-million.html

    Good point that they make is Obama promise to not raise taxes on 95% of Americans versus promise to let the Bush Taxes expire which will raise taxes for 100% of Americans.

  60. I also heard a radio ad from obama trashing mccain’s healt plan, but when it came to talking about his all he said was he would “reduce costs” and “focus on prevention”..in other words nothing. I guess he has completely thrown UHC under the bus.

    OMG, I thought the same thing! I was like “You’re going to reduce costs…how? Focus on prevention? Like what? Free Weight Watchers and Gold’s Gym memberships for everyone?”

    BTW, my younger daughter and I simply shake with laughter every time Liddy Dole’s commercial comes on the radio. “We sent Kay Hagen to Raleigh and she went on a rampage… that’s trillion, with a T.” I’m guessing that’s not the reaction they were going for, but it’s so damn funny!

  61. chimera, I completely agree. not only is obama lying about his commitment to the LGBT community, I think he is quite homophobic, as is michelle. How anyone in the gay community can support them is beyond me.

  62. Fl voter
    very interesting observations that contradict the crooked polls. I remember someone writing something similar about NJ (was it RD?) – that where you used to see Kerry signs there are none. No signs.
    In NYC, I see a lot of vendors of B0 buttons, T-shirts. I don’t see buyers and very very few wearers. Fewer than Kerry in 2004 as well.

  63. oops… wrong login name above.

  64. hopefully this is THE week.. I tell ya I am tired of obsessively checking blogs anxiously waiting for Republicans to start being well, Republicanish and knock this joker on his @ss….
    I hope they don’t disappoint!

  65. griffith/martha

    Well, I could retire now too, if it weren’t for the fact that I need an affordable healthcare plan. My husband is self-employed. During our 26 years of marriage, I have always been employed and put him on my health care plan. I lost my job three months ago.

    My mom is 82 and she still works (for the thealth benefits) and I will have to follow her example!

  66. carolinagirl, the hagan/dole ads keep me in stitches. I can’t help calling Hagan “fibber kay” despite my suppoort of her 🙂 I also was rolling on the floor with laughter last night when they showed a hagan add with some strange creature beside dole…I had to rewind because I wasn’t listening and it said something about her being in Alaska. I guess the animal was supposed to be a polar bear, but it looked more like a raccoon or something. NC never disappoints with the mud slinging….

  67. Downticket: you killed me with that HRC @ google link. It’s too early in the day to be sobbing.

    I’m not ready to watch her yet. It’s too painful.

  68. McCain ought to be playing Harry Reid’s statement about no one having any idea about what to do with the economic crisis and then ask why Harry wasn’t asking Barry if he is SO capable with dealing with the economy. He ought to play Goolsbee talking about how those stimulus checks were gonna help. What McCain needs to do is make it clear that Democrats are just faking it and have no idea what they are doing.

  69. fif _ I agree the other morning she was being interviewed and I’m told (cuz I coudln’t watch) that she declared she has no intention of ever running for prez again… OMG what have they done to her
    😦 it makes me so sad…

  70. I also like the dole ad where she says “hagan owns oil interests all over the US, but she doesn’t support offshore drilling, guess she doesn’t own one of those”…I’m like, what? she doesn’t own an offshore drilling? jeez, can’t they even make the ads coherent….I laugh at loud everytime I see it.

  71. My mom is 82 and she still works (for the thealth benefits)
    Arabella, why isn’t she on Medicare?

  72. I’m off to a lunch meeting … check ya this afternoon – ta

  73. Yeah, Obama lost me last year w/that McClurkin guy. That’s when I started having doubts about him. They just pander. GLBT people just settle for the crums. I figure if the Democratic Congress (HA!) does it job, we’ll do just as well under McCain.

    Arabella,

    I’ll probably have to work until the day I die. Fortunately my job as a college librarian is not a physically taxing job, I just wish my college would offer benefits for domestic partners. But in TN, they’re afraid the community would rebel against it. They’re aren’t going to take a chance on it.

    Marsha

  74. “In Washington, D.C., if we lose all of our supporters, all the people who look out for us, there will be one man left standing,” he said, “but that man will be a woman, Hillary Rodham Clinton.”
    http://ta-nehisicoates.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/10/is_ed_rendell_still_pissed.php

    downticket,

    Well, I am glad someone is noticing. The survey of
    CEO’s just came in and 80% believe Obama
    will wreck the economy with what in all
    his lack of knowledge.

    The spokesperson was an AA CEO and he
    was good and to the point too. If only the
    ones pushing him
    (elect him or your a ra@ist),
    ‘elite’ academics and
    ‘career politicians’ like him who have never
    made payroll nor started a business would
    get a flipping clue.

    Hillary understood what runs the economy, I
    wasn’t supporting her because I thought she
    was like me, or looked like me (she doesn’t).
    I was supporting her because she is a balanced
    person who understand how and ‘who’ moves
    the economy.

    If they understood that they would realize that
    most people are not crooks with million dollar
    parachutes, they are hard working people that
    are too busy doing business work to be
    kissing their ar@ses like their ‘close’ friends.

    Oh, and Barney Frank needs to be removed from
    all his committee assignments until he learns
    what CONFLICT OF INTEREST MEANS! He
    wasn’t looking out for you or for the well being
    of this country.

    Oh my I am a little ticked off this morning!

  75. “Peer pressure doesn’t end in high school…”

    This isn’t high school?

  76. Good morning everyone! I only wish I didn’t have to work today. I’m on pins and needles about the debate tonight. I hope McCain didn’t read the NYT. Sarah needs to tell him to ignore the haka. I don’t believe for one minute that Midwesterners are going to defend BO for hanging around with former (?) Weathermen and pushing voter fraud. The ACORN stuff seems to be getting some traction.

    As SM says, McCain can very politely bring up these issues during the debate. After the debate is over, all bets are off. The RNC should run negative ads 24/7. We know from past experience that negative attacks work. In Obama’s case, the attacks are true. If Obama is really coated in teflon, then it won’t work, but they need to try.

  77. palin rally getting ready to begin… streaming on cnn.com

  78. I don’t know what happened but all my word were left hanging out in the ether?

  79. Gary,

    Be careful today. You’re so courageous! Just drive carefully and don’t let the bots in the office get you down.

    See you guys tonight.

  80. votermom – My mom has a lot of special health needs and she would need to purchase supplementary insurance, even if she used Medicare. She has to take a lot of expensive medication.

    But, as she says, she’d rather “wear out than rust out.”

  81. Alright WV — ticked off works well for you!

  82. Hey Lambert,

    Have you decided to “tepidly” oppose Obama or are you still voting for him?

  83. bostonboomer,

    You didn’t get the MEMO…he won the debate, heck in fact I got an e-mail from moveon.org (falsemove.org) that they would like a MANDATE since he won already! So, he can push through all his wonderful ideas of how the universe should operate. GOD saves us!

  84. Dammit, I’m pissed……no SOB better try to introduce this shit here….

    from The Reclusive Leftist:

    Women’s equality under the law: nice while it lasted
    People tend to think that the world they’re born into is normal, even immutable. That’s a big reason why young people in the West take women’s rights for granted. How could it be any different?

    I’m just old enough to have experienced the world before women’s equality under the law was in place. I’m also a student of history. Perhaps that’s why I take nothing for granted. For all we know, feminism could be little more than a fad of the 20th century. A soap bubble in time.

    For women in the U.K., the soap bubble is already bursting. With sharia court rulings now enforceable by law in the U.K., more than a century of progress has been rolled back. Wife-beating? The British outlawed it in 1861, but now if you’re a Muslim woman under the thumb of your family, the law is no longer on your side. The British established equal inheritance in 1925, but now sharia courts are following Islamic law and giving sons twice as much as daughters.

    And it’s legal.

    I suppose the defenders of this policy argue that it’s okay because the Muslim women have to “voluntarily” submit to the authority of the sharia courts before the rulings are handed down. But it makes no sense — absolutely no sense — to talk about women under the thumb of patriarchal domination “voluntarily” submitting to their own oppression. As a rule, women and girls in a patriarchy lack the social, financial, and psychological autonomy to buck masculine rule. Dig it: that’s how patriarchy works.

    As I wrote last February when Archbishop Eyebrows burbled in public about the inevitability of sharia law:

    Hey, why not sharia law in Britain? Oh, but only for family matters, says Eyebrow Man, by which he means the entire spectrum of codified patriarchal abuse that governs women’s personal lives: divorce, marriage, custody, marital rape, marital beatings, financial support, “honor,” etc. Clearly His Very Reverend Eyebrows think it’s just peachy keen for women to be second-class citizens because after all, they’re not really human, are they? They’re just women. Eight hundred years of English jurisprudence and a modern European concept of civil rights are fine and dandy, but they do only apply to human beings. Which lets women right out.

  85. Got to go and find a job.

    Have a great day, everybody.

  86. DT said: “NYT has been in the tank for Obama since he decided to run.”

    NYT has been in the tank for Obama before they even knew him; they have been waiting for a Messiah a very long time indeed.

    Hi, Marsha!

  87. bb — lol! Nothing says “I own my vote” like caving in & proving to the guy who sh!t all over you that you don’t have any place else to go. That’ll show him!

  88. But, as she says, she’d rather “wear out than rust out.”
    Your mom sounds awesome. I hope she stays healthy.

  89. All the Cubans in my neighborhood are voting for McCain/Palin.

  90. angie,

    Thanks, I needed that! Gee, I just get steamed when I get the DFA e-mails and the move.org ones and want to yell. It reminds me of what they did to Hillary and how the PARTY LEFT US! LEFT US OUT IN THE COLD WITH SOMEONE THAT WANTS TO LEARN!. I thought we did that and that was called the DOT.COM MESS! They didn’t learn on the job, they spent all the money that others worked so darn hard for. How dumb do these people think we are?!?

  91. fif, on October 15th, 2008 at 10:29 am

    Forgive me. I didn’t watch it all. I stopped after she had finished talking about the future. It is from February 2007 and she was sociable, funny, refusing to talk about Sputnik 1because it would make her sound so old 🙂

  92. My own belief is that all of the “peer-pressure” exerted by the Obama side — including the ever-present threat of being denounced as a r@cist if one expresses doubt about Obama — is that it will create the worst possible Bradley effect in this election. I can’t think of any other election in which people felt so much need to hide their true opinions from others.

    While I’m still not entirely convinced a Bradley effect is a real phenomenon, this would be the election that would test the hypothesis.

  93. This isn’t high school?
    Obama = BMOC.

    lambert, good post on progressive policy victories. (saying it here since I can’t comment there)
    http://correntewire.com/victories_for_progressive_policies_so_far_this_year

  94. sm — gotta love the Cubans (the Dominicans aren’t so bad either! :-))

  95. I’m only gonna say this once because I’m sick of seeing Hillary misquoted.

    She said that there was “0 chance” of her being Senate Majority Leader. That there was “0 chance” of her being on the Supreme Court,which she had no ambition towards. and that the chances of her running against were “probably near 0.”

    I can’t make it any clearer. She didn’t say 0 chance again; she didn’t say never. She said exactly what wouldn’t make her the news cycle and she still became the news cycle. Do not eat the media narrative that Hillary isn’t coming back. There are 2 years between here and her having to decide.

  96. bostonboomer, on October 15th, 2008 at 10:40 am Said:
    Good morning everyone! I only wish I didn’t have to work today. I’m on pins and needles about the debate tonight. I hope McCain didn’t read the NYT. Sarah needs to tell him to ignore the haka. I don’t believe for one minute that Midwesterners are going to defend BO for hanging around with former (?) Weathermen and pushing voter fraud. The ACORN stuff seems to be getting some traction.

    As SM says, McCain can very politely bring up these issues during the debate. After the debate is over, all bets are off. The RNC should run negative ads 24/7. We know from past experience that negative attacks work. In Obama’s case, the attacks are true. If Obama is really coated in teflon, then it won’t work, but they need to try.

    I’m telling you BB, at 10:31pm, it’s going to be like the last 2 minutes of the 4th of July fireworks display.

  97. Hey Lois! Is that you? I thought you were Parentofed?

  98. griffithinc: Er, I am when I’m sober and can type.

  99. AngieNC: LOL!

    Around here, I’ve seen no signs for anyone, but going to the shops & bodegas, all you hear and see is “Obama es como Castro.”

  100. You’re not sober @ 10:51am in the morning? 🙂

  101. sarah, on October 15th, 2008 at 10:44 am Said:
    Dammit, I’m pissed……no SOB better try to introduce this shit here….

    Sarah,

    Obama supported Odinga, Odinga signed off on Sharia Law for Kenya, Obama continued to support Odinga. Odinga’s campaign message was CHANGE! THEY CAN KEEP THEIR FLIPPING CHANGE…NO SHARIA LAW HERE EVER.

    These OBAMA girls sold him with sex via OBAMA GIRL (even she didn’t vote for him…it was all business) and women don’t know what he supports. Just look at who he admires, his Father who left him but was a MAN, not his mother, nor his white grandparents. His books were not about praising those that supported him they were about the MAN!

    If he can’t figure that out why would I trust him with the ECONOMY!

  102. Cheney experiencing abnormal heart rhythm.
    I bet Pelosi is praying that W chokes on a pretzel.
    3rd lin line! 3rd in line!

  103. Regency — I agree — people need to relax about what she said. First: I’m no Hillbot — I always knew Hillary was a politician, not the second coming — what do you expect a politician to say 3 weeks before the GE? “Yes, after my party’s candidate gets his @ss handed to him, I will be running in 2012” — If you did you need some serious pol 101 schooling. Second: You never trust a pol when they say they aren’t running four years from now. Finally, and probably most importantly — has anyone here every had a bad break up? Right afterwards were you raring to go jump into a new relationship or did you swear of love for ever? Yeah, me too — Hillary got her heart broken by the Dem. Party & she doesn’t really care to even think about getting back in the arena in 2012. However, just like with love affairs, time will heal all wounds and by the time 2012 rolls around she will be raring to jump right back in.

  104. I don’t drink? I am just mad that they think he won the debate and the election too!
    D
    A
    R
    N

    M
    A
    D 😦

  105. Cheney has a heart?!!

  106. Michele rants against the white racists challenging B0’s indonesian adoption
    http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2008/10/15/michelle-white-racists-challenge-b0s-adoption/

  107. Angie: Damn right. And it is my intention to make sure it’s the most orgasmic damned reconciliation she’s ever had.

  108. OK, I am off now…you all have a good morning!

  109. Have a nice day, WV.

  110. griffithinc: Ugh, Zyrtec leaves me zonked. Remember? Lots of beautiful leaves right now. Don’t know which is worse, the allergies or the drugged-up feeling. Thank goodness I tried a few years of acupuncture, that really helped.

    A holistic doc once told me the reason I’m so sensitive to drugs is because of my puny liver; that’s nice to hear…

  111. sm — there is a good reason for that — BO is like Castro! The msm can fawn all over him but people who know will still see it.

  112. Hope!

    According to Rasmussen:
    In October 2004 Kerry was up by 7
    In October 1976 Carter was up by 13 and won by 2

    There’s always a chance.

  113. Carolynn — it ain’t over til it’s over — the GE isn’t a caucus & the RNC will not be able to take EVs away from one candidate & award them to BO.

  114. Cheney has a heart?!!
    Even vampires have hearts.

  115. It’ll be painfully amusing to watch a whole bunch of white people call an entire country racist for the next 4 years. Thankfully, I expect that Bill will find some natural disaster to go help with and go on a road trip with Bush Daddy and Jr, with Hillary riding shotgun.

  116. It’ll be painfully amusing to watch a whole bunch of white people call an entire country r*cist for the next 4 years. Thankfully, I expect that Bill will find some natural disaster to go help with and go on a road trip with Bush Daddy and Jr, with Hillary riding shotgun.

  117. “Even vampires have hearts.”

    HAHAHA. Too funny.

  118. Does anyone know why Hannity didn’t have the Corsi interview? And why hasn’t he had Berg on about that lawsuit? Has the rightwing media gone chicken too?

  119. I’m not even the least bit curious how BZero won the debate that has not happened yet.

    I fear for anyone stupid enough to “get in my face” regarding my vote – they will lose their face – that’s a promise.

    Bad news about Taz – so sad.

  120. I read, but it was just rumor, that Hannity was threatened with a lawsuit if he interviewed Corsi. But who knows?

    MountainSage

  121. go, SOD.
    I’m saving that before it is made to disappear

  122. I wouldn’t think a lawsuit would scare Hannity or Fox News. Don’t they get sued all the time? I’m sure O’Reilly does.

  123. soupcity, on October 15th, 2008 at 10:17 am Said:
    Well my neighbor, who often has trouble stringing together two sentences together coherently, now has a BO sign in her yard.

    Her reason, “he’s cool.”

    ——————

    Yep. The vanity candidate. “He makes meeee feel good about meeee, look at me, I’m both morally superior and cool! And I don’t even have to do anything!”

  124. Corsi has been postponed the interview because of illness. Something to the effect that he hasn’t recovered from his ordeal. According to his editor, the interview should take place Thurs or Fri

  125. oops! meant “Corsi has postponed”

  126. Yea, the NYT also said the “attacks” backfired on Clinton. I DON’T THINK SO. The NYT is so in the tank for Obama it is clear to anyone who isn’t an Obamabot now. Clinton only started winning after she went negative on Obama. Obama’s camp was calling the Clintons r@cists even before the “attacks”. Attacks work. Even the now kool-aid deranged Obamabot TAYLOR MARSH said so back in the day.

    Folks like Bob Herbert and Modo will never have anything good to say about anyone besides BZero. Herbert is waiting to call ANYONE a r@cist as long as they even question the Messiah. I have NOT to this day seen anything that negative from McCain. I HOPE to see some REAL attacks soon so that the Obots can get REALLY angry. I love to see them when they are so deranged they can’t even think straight (cough JERALYN cough).

    Good day everyone!

  127. On Fox next- Pumas holding fund raiser for Palin last night- more after these messages….

  128. Went to visit the Kid in Lexington this weekend, home of UK and prime Obot territory. Not as many as I expected, though. Mostly student apt-type places. I said, ” Yeah, they think their IQ & cool level goes up 10 points just by posting the Obot sign.”

    Kid says, ” The students & professors here have Obot signs, but nearly all the big houses in Hamburg, McMeekin & Ashland-Henry Clay areas have McCain/Palin and they run Lexington, not the students.”

  129. There is a new report out in Kenya, about the December post election violence in Kenya where 1,500 people lost their lives and 300,000 were forced to flee their homes.
    (opposition leader was Mr Raila Odinga)

    What started as spontaneous violent reaction to the perceived rigging of elections, later evolved into well-organised and co-ordinated attacks on members of President Kibaki’s community and Party of National Unity (PNU), he said.

    “These were systematic attacks on Kenyans based on their ethnicity and their political leanings… Guilty by association was the guiding force behind the deadly revenge attacks,” he said.

    The commission would give Mr Annan a sealed list of names of prominent politicians, businessmen and a section of the police force who were behind the violence and supporting evidence, Justice Waki said.

    If an international tribunal was not created, the list would be handed over to the ICC in The Hague./

    news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/7671080.stm

  130. Regency, on October 15th, 2008 at 11:06 am Said:
    It’ll be painfully amusing to watch a whole bunch of white people call an entire country r*cist for the next 4 years.

    We spoke about this last night in the elitist liberal thread. It is possible (not that it will definitely happen) that rich white liberals will also hide behind accusations of r@cism with Obama while doing some terrible shit that can harm minorities and poor whites in this country. This means an Obama administration can do ANYTHING policy wise that could be bad for the nation and anyone who questions him will be called a r@cist. Kinda like people who questioned the Bush administration were called unpatriotic. For anyone who saw the Howard Stern video of blacks in Harlem not have a CLUE as to what Obama stands for or who his running mate even is, I fear that many blacks in this country will go along with ANYTHING Obama says because he is the first black president rather than holding his feet to the fire. From the Stern video, it is very possible Obama could become more socially conservative without anyone seeing anything wrong with that. It’s scary when so many people support him solely on the basis of either his race or the cult of personality and celebrity rather than on the issues. Someone could base a f*#king novel on what is going on in this country right now. It’s truly scary.

  131. OT but does anyone know the name of the web site that allows you to put in an address and look up market value prices for real-estate. I forgot the name it is something like zoom… zoomler… Google is not helping me.

  132. Hillary supporters for McCain/Palin on Fox right now.

  133. hello everyone.

    Fox on with DEMS against Obama

  134. Having just spent 3 weeks visiting family in Florida, I can tell you Obama ads are in high rotation there. I don’t know how our fellow PUMAs in Florida can stand it.

    Every other commercial on TV seems to be an Obama ad. They’re even running multiple ads on the radio too. I can’t imagine how much money the Obama campaign must have spent in advertising across the state.

    As a PUMA, it was too much for me. I had to mute the channel during all commercials just to block him out.

    On the plus side, I saw many more McCain/Palin lawn signs then Obama signs. I’m hopeful that despite the huge ad buys, the Obama campaign is not winning many over.

  135. zillow.com

  136. zillow.com If you don’t check my house, I won’t check yours.

  137. What I meant was, maybe Corsi postponed because of waiting for the Commission’s report from Kenya to see if it would name names

  138. Democrats for McCain-Palin rep. on Fox states that Clinton supporters can think for themselves. Agrees that Clinton and Palin have different views, but both have best interest of the country at heart. Mentioned Lady De Rothschild. He thinks there is some underpolling going on. Frank Dudenhofer is his name. (Refreshing in a way to see a male Puma for Palin on teevee, just for variety)

  139. I never thought I’d live to see Democrats fund raising for a Republic ticket. What does THAT say? The polls are crap, McCain is going win. When you have Dems jumping ship big time that really says something. Plus I just don’t see how Obama will win here in the south. Parentofed and I know how southerners are, more conservative and suspicious of hopey feely.

  140. Well, I guess I have to go there….

    Why in the “bully the vote” e-mail did they forget the kids? Perhaps the special note to children got mistakenly edited.

    “Hey kids…. you can help too! If your parents are talking about voting for McCain or are talking about
    not voting at all…. here’s something you can do! Contact your local Obama office. And here’s a 800 number for you to call!”

  141. oceancitygirl, on October 15th, 2008 at 11:31 am Said:

    …As a PUMA, it was too much for me. I had to mute the channel during all commercials just to block him out.
    ____________________

    Personally, I’ve been living off of YouTube and Riverdaughter. I’m visiting PA and the ads were KILLING me so I don’t even turn the TV on.

  142. Morning all–for a few more min. anyway. Here in NE Florida, it is mostly McCain signs–to be expected. I live in a very Repub. part of Florida. I do think the polls are wrong-he polls high. No matter, we will all be called racist anyway, so vote your conscience. For me, that’s McCain.

  143. Thanks Honora

  144. Palin on Fox right now.

  145. I like her folksy way of talking. I see that pageant training in there.

  146. Go Sarah!
    OMG. A Republican saying “It’s not a hand-out. It’s a hand-up.”

  147. That’s a Hillary quote “not a hand out, a hand up”

    Go Sarah!

  148. Yes, if you know or read the history of how Castro got into office it’s the same story we are experiencing right now with Obama.
    And after he got into office he told his monied sponsors to get lost.

  149. lililam, on October 15th, 2008 at 11:34 am Said:

    ——-

    There are lots of us guys out here.

  150. I love Sarah. *cuddles her*

  151. Gotta go to class. Later.

  152. New thread up, with as little substance as the person being parodied…

  153. October Surprise-Republican Style:

    http://www.erickerickson.org/blog/?m=200810

  154. McCain needs to read this blog. Laurie send that link to his campaign.

  155. I agree griffithinc – there are so many great points made on this site that McCain should read it.

  156. Sugar n Spice has some really funny videos of a guy filming Obama supporters asking them what they like about him, what policies they like. Talk about dumb. Duh. Change. Hope, blah, blah, blah. They can’t name any specific policies, BECAUSE HE HAS NONE!

  157. destardi- i am aware of that, but it is rare to see them on tv, with that one exception in times past.

  158. To Gary…way up thread. Regarding the bumper sticker incident. I live in California – the supposed hotbed of Obama support, right? Well, I see very few Obama stickers on cars (and I am on the freeways between San Diego and LA all the time). Maybe 2 a day. Now San Diego is a conservative place and in the past we used to see the hateful Bush ’04 stickers everywhere. But now, there are virtually NO McCain-Palin stickers. My analysis: not as many Obama supporters as you would expect and the McCain supporters are afraid to advertise their support of the GOP ticket. I know I am. There is no way I would open myself up to the attack.

  159. Quoth Thomas:
    Statistically, John McCain could win every state listed above if the election was held today. This possibility excludes the undecided voter for each contest. Over the next 21 days just a positive change in trend for McCain could be enough to send Barack back to the Senate.

    As a practicing statistician, I’ve got to object here. It’s statistically possible for
    100 consecutive tosses of a coin to come up heads, but it’s not a possibility anyone takes seriously. As the polls currently stand, O’Bambi has at least a 90% chance of winning the popular vote and an even better chance of taking the EC vote. McC would need to take every swing state and the margin of error would have to favor him in every contest.

    You’re right that “a positive change in trend for McCain” could win it for him, but it would need to be a pretty dramatic shift (on a par with the shock that
    the Lehman/AIG collapses delivered to the system in favor of O’Bambi).

    The only really good news in the polls for McCain is that the trends show some serious volatility. Depending on the model of voter behaviour you endorse, a genuine “October surprise” might just restore all the momentum McC has lost in the last few weeks.

    But make no mistake: it’s an uphill struggle.

  160. but Florida Surfer, doesn’t that assume that people show up to vote in the same proportion that is being sampled (39 dem, 32 rep or whatever each poll is using)?

  161. @BPD:

    Yes, but pollsters try to get samples that will accurately reflect actual turnout (hence the emphasis on “likely voter” vs. “registered voter” as the election draws near). Pollsters get paid depending on how accurate their predictions are, so there’s very little incentive to skew a poll one way or another by using a badly biased sample group. They can be wrong — even dramatically wrong — as we saw in the NH Dem primary, where BO was supposed to be 10%+ ahead and finished several percentage points down.

    The difference here is that there is a huge abundance of polls, and they all agree that McC trails by a statistically significant amount. If you go to hominidviews.com and look at the averages running for all the polls, O’Bambi wins in 100% of 100,000 trials based on current poll numbers. Unless something pretty big happens in the next 2+ weeks, BO will win.

    That’s not an argument for despair, it’s an argument for making something big happen.

  162. It was always like this RD — I bet. He never planned to help Hillary — I hope the CIA is onto what he is doing, especially with Acorn — one sick little mofo if you ask me.

  163. I don’t worry about polls. I have one lousy little vote and get to cast it in secret any way I damn well please. Same with everyone else. I hate this horserace BS.

  164. Hey everyone – a new post is up!

  165. Regarding polls a commentator on BBC last night cautioned against treating them as the last word. She reminded everyone about how they screwed up in 2004 by calling Kerry as the winner. She said they should be taken with a grain of salt. (I instinctively knew for weeks that Bush was going to win.)

    All I know is that more and more McCain/Palin yard signs are popping up in my Northern Virginia suburb. I live in Loudoun County not Arlington or Alexandria which are more Dem leaning areas but it’s encouraging nonetheless.

    I just have a feeling that this race will have a surprise finish.

  166. This reminds me of the communism years (I live in a former communist country):
    1. the neighbours were monitoring each other to see whether everybody went to the polls and
    2. we had to “choose” from one single name on the ballot (the Communist Party candidate).
    Good luck with your (soon-to-be)communist fatherland.
    Been there, done that.

  167. DV wrote, “It is possible (not that it will definitely happen) that rich white liberals will also hide behind accusations of r@cism with Obama while doing some terrible shit that can harm minorities and poor whites in this country. This means an Obama administration can do ANYTHING policy wise that could be bad for the nation and anyone who questions him will be called a r@cist.”

    Oh yes. The classic Northern liberal strategy. Use blacks as a pawn in a class warfare against lower-class whites (as well as now Hispanics) and blacks themselves.

    It’s said of Obama’s neighborhood, “Hyde Park: middle class, black and white, shoulder to shoulder against the poor.” (I believe this is attributable to Mike Nichols and Elaine May.) That sums up the “Invisible Man” coalition pretty neatly.

  168. Oh my..after battling Medicare, a doctor’s billing office and BCBS-LA I have no patience with this:

    Howard Dean’s brother Jim’s activist base training thousands of Obots to get in your face to put peer pressure on you to vote for Obama just like in high school.

    They get in my face I get out my big Cop flashlight which holds 7 “D” cells and I get in their face.

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