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Presidential Debate Live Blog

Posted on October 7, 2008 by riverdaughter

Get your popcorn and your cocktail and point your satellite to C-Span for the second of three Presidential debates between Barack Obama and John McCain.  This is a town hall format, moderated by Tom Brokaw at Belmont College in Nashville, TN.

For those of you who want to watch Conflucian style, here are the rules.  Set your DVR to record and turn the sound off.  Pay attention to body language.  Then rewind and watch it with the sound on.  Notice any difference?

We recommend C-Span for debate coverage that is unfiltered.  But if you want to hear what WE think about what happened, tune in tonight at 10:30PM EST for Conflucians Say.  We’ll give you the very best in Conflucian political analysis, commentary and snark. 

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526 Responses

  1. janicen, on October 7, 2008 at 8:59 pm said:

    Here we go…

  2. angienc, on October 7, 2008 at 9:01 pm said:

    I admit — I’m nervous for the old man tonight. Got my candle lit.
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    Put on your brightest red lipstick, your highest heels & your chicest pantsuit and Vote for the Woman, It’s Important!

  3. Kat5, on October 7, 2008 at 9:01 pm said:

    Popcorn, anyone?

  4. dakinikat, on October 7, 2008 at 9:01 pm said:

    i just hope Tom Brokaw is tough

  5. sm77, on October 7, 2008 at 9:02 pm said:

    Ok… listen to NPR radio for Debate – if not, deal with TV.

  6. dakinikat, on October 7, 2008 at 9:02 pm said:

    kat5: nah, this is nawlins down here, i got booze, but thank you …
    and it’s pinot grigio …
    red, pinot grigio, and blue

  7. janicen, on October 7, 2008 at 9:02 pm said:

    These “uncommitted” voters always turn out to be Obots.

  8. phlamingophred, on October 7, 2008 at 9:02 pm said:

    I hate listening to the same program from two different stations – they’re slightly off on the audio and it’s darn distracting.

    Hey y’all! {{{waving}}}

  9. katiebird, on October 7, 2008 at 9:02 pm said:

    Everyone should know that I absolutely hate Tom Brokaw.

  10. angienc, on October 7, 2008 at 9:03 pm said:

    Brokaw is asking the questions? So, no way for these people to “change the question” I guess.
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    Put on your brightest red lipstick, your highest heels & your chicest pantsuit and Vote for the Woman, It’s Important!

  11. fif, on October 7, 2008 at 9:03 pm said:

    I have a candle lit too angie.

  12. sofiaNY, on October 7, 2008 at 9:03 pm said:

    I am so nervous for McCain!

  13. phlamingophred, on October 7, 2008 at 9:04 pm said:

    good, make him go first so he can’t do the “me too” thing

  14. Regency, on October 7, 2008 at 9:04 pm said:

    Downside is I can’t watch “Monty Python and the Holy Grail” while listening to the debate stream.

  15. bostonboomer, on October 7, 2008 at 9:04 pm said:

    I wish Palin were debating Obama tonight. Look what she said in Jacksonville:

    Palin made light of Obama’s claims of not knowing the background of former terrorist Bill Ayers, suggesting the Democratic candidate may cite limited knowledge of other world issues.

    “You know, what’s next? Claiming that he didn’t know two of his biggest supporters were running Fannie Mae, the sub-prime mortgage giant?” Palin asked several thousand supporters at Jacksonville Landing, overlooking the St. John’s River. “And since he got called out on his plans to meet unconditionally with terrorist state leaders like Ahmadinejad, will he now claim he was unaware of his radical backgrounds?

    http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/10/07/1505373.aspx

  16. Still4Hill, on October 7, 2008 at 9:04 pm said:

    I’m here – bat girl for McCain.

  17. Kat5, on October 7, 2008 at 9:04 pm said:

    Actually, I have a pulled back muscle and will have to ‘watch’ off and on. Depending on y’all!

  18. angienc, on October 7, 2008 at 9:04 pm said:

    katiebird — me too! I hate that stupid serious “anchorman voice” he has.

    Oh, real people will ask the questions.
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    Put on your brightest red lipstick, your highest heels & your chicest pantsuit and Vote for the Woman, It’s Important!

  19. fif, on October 7, 2008 at 9:04 pm said:

    Why aren’t they letting the actual people ask the question? That’s stupid. Isn’t this OUR election, and not the media’s?

  20. Regency, on October 7, 2008 at 9:04 pm said:

    Good luck, Johnny.

  21. DisenfranchisedVoter, on October 7, 2008 at 9:05 pm said:

    I don’t have access to a television and I don’t feel like watching it online. I’ll just read the reactions here.

  22. Kat5, on October 7, 2008 at 9:05 pm said:

    IMO, at this point any uncommitted voters should be committed.

  23. Denise W, on October 7, 2008 at 9:05 pm said:

    God,he’s a minute into the first question and hasn’t answered it!

  24. angienc, on October 7, 2008 at 9:05 pm said:

    DV — first question is economy.
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    Put on your brightest red lipstick, your highest heels & your chicest pantsuit and Vote for the Woman, It’s Important!

  25. Britannia, on October 7, 2008 at 9:06 pm said:

    Sending good thoughts for McCain.

    I’m puking while listening to Obama.

  26. Still4Hill, on October 7, 2008 at 9:06 pm said:

    – stay in their homes = stolen from HRC

  27. Kat5, on October 7, 2008 at 9:06 pm said:

    Here’s the bucket, Brit.

  28. All Afro American Gal, on October 7, 2008 at 9:06 pm said:

    There goes Obama pontificating again with no experience

  29. Regency, on October 7, 2008 at 9:06 pm said:

    Oh, kill me now.

  30. bostonboomer, on October 7, 2008 at 9:07 pm said:

    DV,

    Obama is just as boring as ever.

  31. janicen, on October 7, 2008 at 9:07 pm said:

    McCain is not blaming like Obama did, he’s talking about his plan.

  32. fif, on October 7, 2008 at 9:07 pm said:

    Is he uhh ummming?

  33. Britannia, on October 7, 2008 at 9:07 pm said:

    Oh, thanks Kat5. 🙂

  34. phlamingophred, on October 7, 2008 at 9:07 pm said:

    Regency – it’s a toss up on which show is most important or funny – but I’m happy you’re hanging with us tonight!

    katiebird – welcome back! I heard you took som vacay time.

  35. Regency, on October 7, 2008 at 9:07 pm said:

    You never cared, Barack, ever. Now you do? You hypocrite?

  36. BPD, on October 7, 2008 at 9:07 pm said:

    nice mccain nice

  37. Denise W, on October 7, 2008 at 9:07 pm said:

    JM is working the room well- clear answers

  38. Ann On, on October 7, 2008 at 9:07 pm said:

    The darling, newly espoused Obot is sequestered in a back room, watching the debate. I told him I don’t care as long as I don’t have to hear it or hear about it. I love him, but I can’t stand listening to Obots. ZERO critical thinking skills. They sound lobotomized.

  39. Honora, on October 7, 2008 at 9:08 pm said:

    tough love

  40. Carol, on October 7, 2008 at 9:08 pm said:

    McCain – Hillary’s plan.

  41. edwardian, on October 7, 2008 at 9:08 pm said:

    I have to look away and access mute on BO (peanut head). America, wake the flip up already! Dayum!

  42. still4hill, on October 7, 2008 at 9:08 pm said:

    haha – McC has a PLAN for that

  43. angienc, on October 7, 2008 at 9:08 pm said:

    Is McCain talking about Hillary’s HOLC?
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    Put on your brightest red lipstick, your highest heels & your chicest pantsuit and Vote for the Woman, It’s Important!

  44. WMCB, on October 7, 2008 at 9:08 pm said:

    Yes! He is basically endorsing Hillary’s HOLC idea!

  45. OldCoastie, on October 7, 2008 at 9:08 pm said:

    1st question should be, “are either one of you going to answer any of our questions?”

    didn’t this guy ask what the candidates will do to help older Americans?

  46. riverdaughter, on October 7, 2008 at 9:08 pm said:

    Holy F$%^&! He’s adopting Hillary’s HOME plan???? OMG!

  47. Regency, on October 7, 2008 at 9:08 pm said:

    Hillary’s HOLC?

  48. Britannia, on October 7, 2008 at 9:08 pm said:

    I think McCain would sit beside the questioner if he could.

  49. Ann On, on October 7, 2008 at 9:08 pm said:

    Huh … lobotomized … l OBOT omized … coincidence??

  50. bostonboomer, on October 7, 2008 at 9:09 pm said:

    McCain is saying the government should buy up bad mortgages, renegotiate them, and keep people in their homes. Is that what Hillary was talking about?

  51. Kat5, on October 7, 2008 at 9:09 pm said:

    McC is adopting Hill’s plan???

  52. fif, on October 7, 2008 at 9:09 pm said:

    Carol: did he give HRC’s plan??

  53. Regency, on October 7, 2008 at 9:09 pm said:

    It’s Hillary Clinton’s proposals, goddamnit!

  54. Britannia, on October 7, 2008 at 9:09 pm said:

    It’s not Pres. Bush’s proposal—good line.

  55. still4hill, on October 7, 2008 at 9:09 pm said:

    angie – yes – so was obama – but feebly

  56. Honora, on October 7, 2008 at 9:09 pm said:

    great he has an answer

  57. phlamingophred, on October 7, 2008 at 9:09 pm said:

    Brit – simple solution – don’t listen to him when he speaks – put your fingers in your ears and do the “la-la-la-la” thing.

  58. Trecy, on October 7, 2008 at 9:09 pm said:

    John related well with his first response. BO was preaching.

  59. Regency, on October 7, 2008 at 9:09 pm said:

    Sorry, Honora!

  60. dakinikat, on October 7, 2008 at 9:09 pm said:

    i’m not sure mentioning that Warren Buffet supports Obama is a good strategy

  61. NH, on October 7, 2008 at 9:09 pm said:

    They both handled the first question very poorly. But McCain missed an opportunity to hit Obama with Fredeie and Fannie.

  62. Sophie, on October 7, 2008 at 9:09 pm said:

    katiebird: why don’t you like Brokaw?

  63. riverdaughter, on October 7, 2008 at 9:10 pm said:

    Oooo, he’s hitting the trust issue. Someone has been reading the PUMAsphere.

  64. dakinikat, on October 7, 2008 at 9:10 pm said:

    and yes Boomer, that was Hillary that recommended !

  65. garychapelhill, on October 7, 2008 at 9:10 pm said:

    obama: what mccain said! warren buffet…lol

  66. fif, on October 7, 2008 at 9:10 pm said:

    Ann: lol! Good eye.

    Holy shit–he’s borrowing HRC’s plan? That’s it! The ultimate shout out to PUMAs!

  67. BPD, on October 7, 2008 at 9:10 pm said:

    BO is off topic

    two questions he hasnt answered

  68. WMCB, on October 7, 2008 at 9:10 pm said:

    bostonboomer, even better, he said he’d order the Secretary to re-negotiate them at the PRESENT VALUE of the home. So if your inflated home value has dropped, you get relief – they write off the difference.

  69. phlamingophred, on October 7, 2008 at 9:10 pm said:

    did he say he’d like warren buffet as a choice for treasury secretary?

  70. still4hill, on October 7, 2008 at 9:10 pm said:

    here we go with his top-bottom stuff again

  71. Chevalier, on October 7, 2008 at 9:10 pm said:

    I like McCain’s shoutouts for Meg Whitman. I’d like Obama to name ONE woman he truly admires.

  72. NH, on October 7, 2008 at 9:10 pm said:

    Majority of Americans do not agree with Hillary’s plan to bail out homeowners.

  73. Honora, on October 7, 2008 at 9:10 pm said:

    I’m not going to actually answer the question, This is a good opportunity to go blah blash blah…

  74. MTdob4Hill, on October 7, 2008 at 9:10 pm said:

    My lipstick is applied, my tv is on mute…here we go!

  75. dakinikat, on October 7, 2008 at 9:11 pm said:

    is this Honora or her daughter? just asking 🙂

  76. OldCoastie, on October 7, 2008 at 9:11 pm said:

    dakinikat – didn’t you notice that BO is on a first name basis with “Warren”?

  77. All Afro American Gal, on October 7, 2008 at 9:11 pm said:

    Stop spewing Barky

  78. BPD, on October 7, 2008 at 9:11 pm said:

    here we go with the “mccain is right” again
    lol

  79. Sophie, on October 7, 2008 at 9:11 pm said:

    Nope…Buffet’s out as Sec of Treas in an Obama Admin…he basically gave the “he’d be on anybody’s short list” answer.

  80. janicen, on October 7, 2008 at 9:11 pm said:

    Obama’s straying away from the question. Is Brokaw going to get him back on track?

  81. Pat Johnson, on October 7, 2008 at 9:11 pm said:

    Middle class? In about a week I may no longer be a member if this crap keeps up.

  82. garychapelhill, on October 7, 2008 at 9:11 pm said:

    did mccain just offer more to homeowners than the democrat????

  83. angienc, on October 7, 2008 at 9:11 pm said:

    still4hill — if Obama was endorsing HOLC, I couldn’t tell!
    LOL
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    Put on your brightest red lipstick, your highest heels & your chicest pantsuit and Vote for the Woman, It’s Important!

  84. Regency, on October 7, 2008 at 9:11 pm said:

    Somewhere, Hillary is tossing back a couple of shots

    BO, you said that fundamentals of the economy were sound days after he did!

  85. Britannia, on October 7, 2008 at 9:11 pm said:

    McCain mentioned a female as candidate for Treasury Secretary.

  86. Carol, on October 7, 2008 at 9:11 pm said:

    Hillary’s HOLC

  87. dakinikat, on October 7, 2008 at 9:11 pm said:

    oldcoastie: so am i, i used to play bridge with him and I hung with howie as a kid, big deal!

  88. dakinikat, on October 7, 2008 at 9:12 pm said:

    oldcoastie: That means E1 who has ever said hi to him once is one a first name basis with him, btw

  89. Carol, on October 7, 2008 at 9:12 pm said:

    McCain is taking Leadership stating he left his campaign ………………….. He’s going their on F & F

  90. still4hill, on October 7, 2008 at 9:12 pm said:

    gary – he offered more substance – barky had no plan

  91. riverdaughter, on October 7, 2008 at 9:12 pm said:

    McCain is saying his campaign comes second to the economy. He’s hitting Fannie and Freddie.

  92. katiebird, on October 7, 2008 at 9:12 pm said:

    Sophie – I’ve always thought he was a drunk name-dropper. He goes on Letterman and preens about all the famous people he knows. But, last spring he went on Letterman and explained that Hillary had no chance of winning the nomination because of the MATH == this was in early April. It was absurd. And for him to imply that it was pure fact was outrageous.

    I’ll never forgive him.

  93. bostonboomer, on October 7, 2008 at 9:12 pm said:

    Can’t Obama ever come up with anything new? He’s still harping on what McCain said about 3 weeks ago “the fundamentals of the economy are sound.” Then bla bla bal, tax cut for 95% of Americans, more criticism of McCain, no proposal of any kind.

  94. Denise W, on October 7, 2008 at 9:12 pm said:

    Fannie and Freddy – Yeah- hit him with it!

  95. Seriously, on October 7, 2008 at 9:12 pm said:

    “McCain is saying the government should buy up bad mortgages, renegotiate them, and keep people in their homes”

    That’s going to send Obama straight over the edge. Help normal people? Never!

  96. Sophie, on October 7, 2008 at 9:12 pm said:

    There goes that “I’m gonna get you” smile. Barky: Stuff it!

  97. phlamingophred, on October 7, 2008 at 9:12 pm said:

    SOD – do you have enough liquor to do that?

  98. taw46, on October 7, 2008 at 9:12 pm said:

    Yeah, Fannie and Freddie. Go John!

  99. bostonboomer, on October 7, 2008 at 9:13 pm said:

    Hit him hard, McCain–his cronies and his friends!!!

  100. Britannia, on October 7, 2008 at 9:13 pm said:

    Gloves are off.

  101. Honora, on October 7, 2008 at 9:13 pm said:

    Its me, my baby girl is shy, but my 11 year old son wants to chat.

  102. dakinikat, on October 7, 2008 at 9:13 pm said:

    oh, GOOD, mcCain’s finally hitting him on fannie and freddie… guess it’s just not a SNL thang any more

  103. sm77, on October 7, 2008 at 9:13 pm said:

    JOHN McCaiN GAVE OUT HILLARY’S PLAN!!!

  104. Pat Johnson, on October 7, 2008 at 9:13 pm said:

    McCain is just another ra*cist! Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac mentions solidify that. Bad McCain!

  105. cal, on October 7, 2008 at 9:13 pm said:

    For those interested, NewHampster is hosting a live debate CHAT now at his place:

    http://www.partizane.com/tribune

    Don’t forget to log in first! Drop in for a second.

  106. edwardian, on October 7, 2008 at 9:13 pm said:

    janicen, on October 7th, 2008 at 9:11 pm Said:
    Obama’s straying away from the question. Is Brokaw going to get him back on track?

    Wonder if SNL will parody him this weekend? Heh.

  107. Denise W, on October 7, 2008 at 9:13 pm said:

    Obama is so arrogant! just looking at him makes me sick- no way can I take 4 years of looking at his ugly mug

  108. still4hill, on October 7, 2008 at 9:14 pm said:

    “some of us” that includes HRC

  109. riverdaughter, on October 7, 2008 at 9:14 pm said:

    If McCain is really committed to a HOLC style program, that is a positive to me.

  110. Regency, on October 7, 2008 at 9:14 pm said:

    Barack said the fundamentals of the economy were sound not two weeks ago.

  111. Carol, on October 7, 2008 at 9:14 pm said:

    BO’s smirking as McCain places the Blame.

    I love it.

    He isn’t afraid of jack shit! Sarah is coming out for the half time show!

  112. angienc, on October 7, 2008 at 9:14 pm said:

    Obama just shook his head and laughed at McCain’s reference to his “cronies”. Eff him!
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  113. sm77, on October 7, 2008 at 9:14 pm said:

    I tried TV, C-SPAN,

    I
    CAN’T
    Do
    IT/

    Hillary should be up there.

    It hurts. I’ll hear it on NPR

  114. Honora, on October 7, 2008 at 9:14 pm said:

    God, the vp was so much more fun

  115. Britannia, on October 7, 2008 at 9:14 pm said:

    Oh good, McCain is remembering the questioners’ names.

  116. edwardian, on October 7, 2008 at 9:14 pm said:

    LOL @ Pat!

  117. garychapelhill, on October 7, 2008 at 9:14 pm said:

    why does obama sound like the republican and mccain sounds like the democrat

  118. still4hill, on October 7, 2008 at 9:14 pm said:

    geez louise!!! Obama sounds like Bush stating the obvious as if to make sure HE understands it.

  119. riverdaughter, on October 7, 2008 at 9:14 pm said:

    He’s got to correct some of Sen McCain;s history, not surprisingly????

  120. WMCB, on October 7, 2008 at 9:15 pm said:

    gary, yes, the Republican offered more concrete relief for homeowners than the “Democrat” did. He even admitted “it would be expensive”, but needs to be done.

  121. angienc, on October 7, 2008 at 9:15 pm said:

    Of course he has to defend himself. EFF HIM!!!
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  122. Kat5, on October 7, 2008 at 9:15 pm said:

    Gotta go pick up Hubby. Keep track, will be back!

  123. DisenfranchisedVoter, on October 7, 2008 at 9:15 pm said:

    Wow. So McCain gave out Hillary’s plan but Obama can’t even associate himself with the Clintons or with the word Democrat? This is enough for me to leave the Democratic Party until it purges itself of Dean, Pelosi, Brazile, and Obama.

  124. still4hill, on October 7, 2008 at 9:15 pm said:

    er uh

  125. bostonboomer, on October 7, 2008 at 9:15 pm said:

    Obama is trying to scare voters. Shouldn’t he be proposing something to calm people down?

  126. dakinikat, on October 7, 2008 at 9:15 pm said:

    Honora: the more the merrier! Hi Honoralets! Join us!!!!!!

  127. Pat Johnson, on October 7, 2008 at 9:15 pm said:

    Obama is such a liar!!!!!

  128. Regency, on October 7, 2008 at 9:15 pm said:

    Oh, god, I can’t stand this guy. Bullshit! Hillary did it!

  129. Chevalier, on October 7, 2008 at 9:15 pm said:

    what F***. how does Obama have the GUTS to say McCAin wanted deregulation in March when OBAMA wanted it on April 28, 2008????????

  130. riverdaughter, on October 7, 2008 at 9:16 pm said:

    gary: because McCain is a practical Republican and Barack Obama is Republican Lite?

  131. Honora, on October 7, 2008 at 9:16 pm said:

    The daughter just told O to shut up. She said that he is talking too much

  132. angienc, on October 7, 2008 at 9:16 pm said:

    After he points fingers! Have I said EFF HIM?

  133. still4hill, on October 7, 2008 at 9:16 pm said:

    Barack W. Bush

  134. Sophie, on October 7, 2008 at 9:16 pm said:

    So how come you got all their money, OB? Your stellar oratory skills?

  135. Sandra S., on October 7, 2008 at 9:16 pm said:

    Dammit, I HATE this Two years ago crap. Maybe nobody listened two years ago because Obama hadn’t done anything of note two years ago. Argh.

  136. Regency, on October 7, 2008 at 9:16 pm said:

    Oh, the hypocrisy!

  137. Carol, on October 7, 2008 at 9:16 pm said:

    Oh good Barky is telling us what we are interested in.

    He just took credit for everything he could.

  138. All Afro American Gal, on October 7, 2008 at 9:16 pm said:

    Get your names straight Barky
    What about the money you get from Fannie Mae, Barry?
    Notice he never refuted that the DEMS were at fault for Fanny Mae?

  139. phlamingophred, on October 7, 2008 at 9:16 pm said:

    fear seemed to work for the bushies, why wouldn’t it work for him?

  140. riverdaughter, on October 7, 2008 at 9:16 pm said:

    What would Obama know about leadership?

  141. sm77, on October 7, 2008 at 9:17 pm said:

    Tom Brokaw – SCARING dems to vote for Obama.

    F_U!!

  142. tpt/ny, on October 7, 2008 at 9:17 pm said:

    I have the sound OFF!
    Thanks for the up-dates.
    McCain really looks strong!

  143. Regency, on October 7, 2008 at 9:17 pm said:

    Does not Franklin Raines now advise Obama?

  144. All Afro American Gal, on October 7, 2008 at 9:17 pm said:

    Sandra S.

    No doubt!

  145. phlamingophred, on October 7, 2008 at 9:17 pm said:

    Sandra S – he hasn’t done anything of note since then either

  146. Britannia, on October 7, 2008 at 9:17 pm said:

    Barky’s in denial about the economy. Liar!

  147. sm77, on October 7, 2008 at 9:18 pm said:

    McCAIN – giving Hillary’s plan again – YES!!!!

    Buy up the loans, HOLC, HOME!!!!

  148. janicen, on October 7, 2008 at 9:18 pm said:

    No, Reg, Raines stepped down.

  149. Regency, on October 7, 2008 at 9:18 pm said:

    Just say it’s Hillary’s plan and I endorse it.

  150. Britannia, on October 7, 2008 at 9:18 pm said:

    Good on you McCain! No false hopes.

  151. still4hill, on October 7, 2008 at 9:18 pm said:

    reg – yes Raines is Barky’s financial advisor

  152. sister of ye, on October 7, 2008 at 9:18 pm said:

    Prretty bogue of Obama to criticize McCain for jumping onto other people’s bills. Guess he’d know, since that’s his own specialty.

  153. riverdaughter, on October 7, 2008 at 9:18 pm said:

    Senator Obama’s name is not on that letter.
    McCain is right about us being the best workers in the world.

  154. tpt/ny, on October 7, 2008 at 9:18 pm said:

    Is it true Obama mentioned Warren Buffet AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Or is that a joke??
    He has said that guys name @ almost EVERY DEBATE!

  155. Carol, on October 7, 2008 at 9:18 pm said:

    McCain – Empathy.

    BO – blame and shame.

  156. gxm17, on October 7, 2008 at 9:18 pm said:

    My question for Obama: Senator, you have just about as much, maybe a little less, experience as Sarah Palin who you and your supporters keep accusing of inexperience and here you stand saying that you can fix the economic crisis. My questions is this: Are you insane? Are your supporters insane?

  157. phlamingophred, on October 7, 2008 at 9:19 pm said:

    go for it – blame both parties and ask how they can fix it!

  158. Britannia, on October 7, 2008 at 9:19 pm said:

    “Senator Obama’s name was not on that letter.” Heh!

  159. angienc, on October 7, 2008 at 9:19 pm said:

    Yes, you look like a typical white person so of course you are cynical.

  160. Sandra S., on October 7, 2008 at 9:19 pm said:

    I think McCain is doing pretty well tonight so far.

  161. still4hill, on October 7, 2008 at 9:19 pm said:

    Rd – i thought not – thanks for the validation – such a LIAR!

  162. Honora, on October 7, 2008 at 9:19 pm said:

    Raines, Raines , Raines…..

  163. Sophie, on October 7, 2008 at 9:19 pm said:

    You mean when Clinton left office, you prick.

  164. sm77, on October 7, 2008 at 9:19 pm said:

    F__K Warren Buffet.

    I want FDR.

    In a Pantsuit.

  165. phlamingophred, on October 7, 2008 at 9:19 pm said:

    did he just give a back-door shout to the Big Dawg?

  166. Pat Johnson, on October 7, 2008 at 9:19 pm said:

    This is an answer?

  167. Regency, on October 7, 2008 at 9:19 pm said:

    How is this useful?

  168. edwardian, on October 7, 2008 at 9:20 pm said:

    “Well, look …” Did he really just start out his response to that woman’s query? Arrogant much?

  169. BPD, on October 7, 2008 at 9:20 pm said:

    barack all about blame

  170. Britannia, on October 7, 2008 at 9:20 pm said:

    Here come’s “the accent.” So annoying.

  171. angienc, on October 7, 2008 at 9:20 pm said:

    No one is completely innocent but it is the GOP’s fault.

  172. Chevalier, on October 7, 2008 at 9:20 pm said:

    the lady questioner was SO freaky!!!!!

    did she just scream at Obama?

    He dare not state the surplus under Bill Clinton.

  173. riverdaughter, on October 7, 2008 at 9:20 pm said:

    I’m sorry, why is Obama the nominee again? I just can’t get past the fact that he’s the nominee.

  174. WMCB, on October 7, 2008 at 9:20 pm said:

    Yeah, Bambi is going to try to claim the Clinton legacy for himself. I hate this man. I honestly do.

  175. Honora, on October 7, 2008 at 9:20 pm said:

    I thought you hated Clinton

  176. vivienne westwood, on October 7, 2008 at 9:20 pm said:

    the question was – can we TRUST you?

  177. dakinikat, on October 7, 2008 at 9:20 pm said:

    Penny Pritzker is still Obama’s finance chair … her family investment firm had a lot to do with the swap market … the Pritzker connection still has not be investigated enough…

  178. still4hill, on October 7, 2008 at 9:20 pm said:

    gmx: My questions is this: Are you insane? Are your supporters insane?
    ——————————
    LMAO

  179. angienc, on October 7, 2008 at 9:20 pm said:

    Now he is recapping McCain’s opening answer.

  180. All Afro American Gal, on October 7, 2008 at 9:20 pm said:

    But How can we trust you Barry?

  181. Regency, on October 7, 2008 at 9:21 pm said:

    Honora’s daughter, cover your eyes please.

    Oh now you wanna claim Bill, asshole? Vicious hate!

    We can’t afford healtchare reform, dumbass.

  182. vivienne westwood, on October 7, 2008 at 9:21 pm said:

    i am already confused – how can you follow BOs arguments???

  183. Britannia, on October 7, 2008 at 9:21 pm said:

    “How can we trust you?” Obama’s answer: “I’m gonna spend some money.”

  184. Denise W, on October 7, 2008 at 9:21 pm said:

    Here he goes! George Bush!
    It’s disgusting him wanting to ride Clinton’s Coattails! What an ass- he is. Hope JM hits him with BO dipping into the past

  185. Sandra S., on October 7, 2008 at 9:21 pm said:

    He’s SO Condescending. “You couldn’t possibly understand. If you don’t have money, you cut back on buying new jewelry. Just leave this stuff to the professionals, honey…”

  186. Carol, on October 7, 2008 at 9:21 pm said:

    RD – he is black, a manchurian candidate and fight the suit.

  187. Pat Johnson, on October 7, 2008 at 9:21 pm said:

    And I am going to put ACORN in charge of all this come January! Trust me.

  188. OldCoastie, on October 7, 2008 at 9:21 pm said:

    still, no one actually answering the question asked… (but it sounds like McC might give it a go)

  189. riverdaughter, on October 7, 2008 at 9:21 pm said:

    McCain is hitting the trust issue again.

  190. fif, on October 7, 2008 at 9:21 pm said:

    This is hilarious, watching the debate through your comments!

  191. phlamingophred, on October 7, 2008 at 9:21 pm said:

    so he wants to bring down our expenses by spending more of our tax dollars?

  192. Sophie, on October 7, 2008 at 9:21 pm said:

    RD: Obama is the nominee because of the media.

  193. garychapelhill, on October 7, 2008 at 9:21 pm said:

    if he is going to tie mccain to bush, he needs to tie obama to pelosi

  194. Seriously, on October 7, 2008 at 9:22 pm said:

    Barky is about to give a shout out to Reagan’s ghost. Ooh, inspiring.

  195. angienc, on October 7, 2008 at 9:22 pm said:

    gmx — LMAO!!!

  196. Britannia, on October 7, 2008 at 9:22 pm said:

    McCain comes across as more personable. Way more.

  197. Carol, on October 7, 2008 at 9:22 pm said:

    Sandra S – don’t you mean “sweetie”??????????

  198. sm77, on October 7, 2008 at 9:22 pm said:

    RD:

    I TRIED to watch it on TV.

    It hurts not to see Hillary on that stage.

    SHE should be there. She earned the popular vote.

    I’m on NPR Radio listening. Less Painful, especially with wine.

  199. still4hill, on October 7, 2008 at 9:22 pm said:

    Briannia – Thank You! Where did he get that accent? Not his environment!

  200. dakinikat, on October 7, 2008 at 9:22 pm said:

    McCain’s hitting hard with facts … without being nasty … very very well prepared for this

  201. Sandra S., on October 7, 2008 at 9:22 pm said:

    Oooh. I like “look at our records as well as our rhetoric”.

  202. All Afro American Gal, on October 7, 2008 at 9:22 pm said:

    Again Obama has no experience to reference in his answers.
    That is what makes me mad about the whole Sarah thing. She could talk about her job in her debate. Obama has nothing to speak of.

  203. Sophie, on October 7, 2008 at 9:23 pm said:

    SOD: Testify!!!

  204. Honora, on October 7, 2008 at 9:23 pm said:

    God– the son has already left and the daughter is goofing off with her dad. They are not keeping the audience. Now, it is only me. Say what you want.

  205. angienc, on October 7, 2008 at 9:23 pm said:

    Britannia — not to the Obots — they weep while he sneers.

  206. john, on October 7, 2008 at 9:23 pm said:

    Has barry been in training camp for “uhms”? I count less than before.

  207. Britannia, on October 7, 2008 at 9:24 pm said:

    still4hill: The accent sounds so fake. It appears when convenient, I suppose.

  208. sister of ye, on October 7, 2008 at 9:24 pm said:

    McCain’s working the crowd pretty well, coming off like someone’s genial and wise grandfather.

  209. fif, on October 7, 2008 at 9:24 pm said:

    dakinikat: so glad to hear that. He needs to be specific, not just “reform.”

  210. Sophie, on October 7, 2008 at 9:24 pm said:

    sm: Wine!!! what a brilliant idea.

  211. radlyboo1, on October 7, 2008 at 9:24 pm said:

    I was planning to watch this debate but I am so repulsed by BZero – I can’t.
    HE seems to have been smirking earlier and when Mac went first – he basically said “what Mac said” – jeesh.

  212. phlamingophred, on October 7, 2008 at 9:24 pm said:

    who has an accent? I want to make sure I listen for it next time

  213. sm77, on October 7, 2008 at 9:24 pm said:

    YEah, good answer all three at once.

    Good job McCain.

  214. Regency, on October 7, 2008 at 9:24 pm said:

    An overheard projector? $3 million?

    WTF, Barack?

  215. All Afro American Gal, on October 7, 2008 at 9:24 pm said:

    Watch Barry steal answers.

  216. Seriously, on October 7, 2008 at 9:25 pm said:

    Big PUMA is going to say something tomorrow like “I’m glad he likes me after all. I wouldn’t have known it from how much he smeared me in the primaries.” lol

  217. dakinikat, on October 7, 2008 at 9:25 pm said:

    oh, migosh … McCain’s talking straight about the third rail… very very brave!

  218. Carol, on October 7, 2008 at 9:25 pm said:

    McCain we can work on all 3 top issues at the same time.

  219. edwardian, on October 7, 2008 at 9:25 pm said:

    I’m on NPR Radio listening. Less Painful, especially with wine.

    Ooh, I couldn’t do that. Wouldn’t know when to turn down the volume.

  220. Carol, on October 7, 2008 at 9:25 pm said:

    McCain is winning hands down. He is stealing the show.

  221. fif, on October 7, 2008 at 9:25 pm said:

    john: yes, they specifically worked on Obama shortening his answers before the last debate, when he was hanging out in Florida while the economy crashed.

  222. garychapelhill, on October 7, 2008 at 9:25 pm said:

    work on all three at once…good answer

  223. still4hill, on October 7, 2008 at 9:25 pm said:

    phred – Obama – phoney accent for where he was raised and by/with whom.

  224. sm77, on October 7, 2008 at 9:25 pm said:

    Sophie: Here I am, laid off & broke, BUT WINE WAS a necessity for tonight.

  225. OldCoastie, on October 7, 2008 at 9:25 pm said:

    watch BO strike a pose while McC talks…

  226. Regency, on October 7, 2008 at 9:26 pm said:

    I like how passionate Mc is beginning to sound.

  227. Denise W, on October 7, 2008 at 9:26 pm said:

    It’s torture to watch Obi’s face- I CAN’T STAND him.

  228. BPD, on October 7, 2008 at 9:26 pm said:

    barack stealing palin’s rhetoric

  229. phlamingophred, on October 7, 2008 at 9:26 pm said:

    someone must have hit him about not interrupting your elders like an unschooled child

  230. katiebird, on October 7, 2008 at 9:26 pm said:

    Aren’t those things interconnected? Don’t they HAVE to be dealt with together?

  231. Regency, on October 7, 2008 at 9:26 pm said:

    Hillary is the donkey in the room.

  232. phlamingophred, on October 7, 2008 at 9:26 pm said:

    ooh-ooh – someone’s been hanging with Al Gore!

  233. angienc, on October 7, 2008 at 9:27 pm said:

    Honestly, I can’t tell who is winning because BO disgusts me so dang much.

  234. still4hill, on October 7, 2008 at 9:27 pm said:

    Denise – I wish I were watching Hillary’s face instead.

  235. gail, on October 7, 2008 at 9:27 pm said:

    THIS is what he challenged Barkie to do every week all summer. See why he refused?

  236. Britannia, on October 7, 2008 at 9:27 pm said:

    McCain also sounds the more passionate one. Like he’s speaking from the heart. Obama sounds condescending. What else is new.

  237. Sandra S., on October 7, 2008 at 9:27 pm said:

    Jesus Christ. Lay off the folksy, down home “just like your family” crap. A national budget is NOTHING like a family budget, you patronizing Ass.

  238. Sophie, on October 7, 2008 at 9:27 pm said:

    Oh shut up, you wind bag. You’ve been post peak since March 4.

  239. Regency, on October 7, 2008 at 9:27 pm said:

    I’m not watching but I am listening.

  240. fif, on October 7, 2008 at 9:27 pm said:

    watch BO strike a pose while McC talks…

    I used to hate the way he would slouch and brood while Hillary talked.

  241. vivienne westwood, on October 7, 2008 at 9:27 pm said:

    independence from foreign oil – and how?? citing kennedy does not get you out of providing specific

  242. WMCB, on October 7, 2008 at 9:27 pm said:

    Stealing Hillary’s space race = energy race idea. Fucker.

  243. Honora, on October 7, 2008 at 9:27 pm said:

    How come he remembers Kennedy, but not Ayers. He was a lot younger when Kennedy was President.

  244. riverdaughter, on October 7, 2008 at 9:27 pm said:

    Medicare is a huge, scary entitlement coming down the pike when the baby boomer generation retires en masse. It is true that it needs to be addressed, Social Security? Ehhhh, not so much. But as long as you’re addressing the medicare issue, why not expand the goal? Restructure the entire health care system for everyone.

  245. Carol, on October 7, 2008 at 9:27 pm said:

    Obama has to work on things one at a time. He can’t remember who he steals the ideas from if he has to work on more than one thing.

  246. garychapelhill, on October 7, 2008 at 9:27 pm said:

    brokaw is an ass…

  247. All Afro American Gal, on October 7, 2008 at 9:27 pm said:

    So Obama like JFK and the moon you are not sure how to do it, you just want to do it.

    Oops, Barry just stole a McCain line.

  248. katiebird, on October 7, 2008 at 9:27 pm said:

    Line-Item vetos? REALLY? How’s he gonna do that?

  249. Regency, on October 7, 2008 at 9:27 pm said:

    Healthcare will not be fixed this go-round. Let it go.

  250. Denise W, on October 7, 2008 at 9:27 pm said:

    He has no record- he has done nothing but run for office

  251. dakinikat, on October 7, 2008 at 9:27 pm said:

    why does Obama keep talking about going line by line in the budget when POTUS doesn’t have line item veto? that doesn’t make sense, how is he going to actually do anything with that?

  252. phlamingophred, on October 7, 2008 at 9:28 pm said:

    SM – you have to have your priorities in order

  253. angienc, on October 7, 2008 at 9:28 pm said:

    katiebird — yes, McCain’s answer was right. — all 3 are interrelated.

  254. Carol, on October 7, 2008 at 9:28 pm said:

    Maybe Obama can do the Moon Walk.

  255. fif, on October 7, 2008 at 9:28 pm said:

    citing kennedy

    Oh he DIDN’T! What a complete Pandering Fool!

  256. Regency, on October 7, 2008 at 9:28 pm said:

    He does not understand Executive Powers does he?

  257. sm77, on October 7, 2008 at 9:28 pm said:

    I like all three at once.

    We can chew gum & walk & talk at the same time .

    NO OBAMA. NO energy, then this, then that.

    ALL THREE.

    Hillary would’ve done 10 at the blink of an eye with a gimp leg, blindfolded and hogtied and done 20 at this point.

  258. bostonboomer, on October 7, 2008 at 9:28 pm said:

    Here he goes with the line by line stuff again. Senator Obama, you will not have a line item veto as President. Read the Constitution!

  259. still4hill, on October 7, 2008 at 9:28 pm said:

    haha Brokaw just called barky a windbag.

  260. garychapelhill, on October 7, 2008 at 9:28 pm said:

    he wants line item veto?

  261. OldCoastie, on October 7, 2008 at 9:28 pm said:

    is BO talking about a line item veto? again?

    prez has no line item veto! (I hope he knows this)

  262. Denise W, on October 7, 2008 at 9:28 pm said:

    Brokaw is just another bot

  263. angienc, on October 7, 2008 at 9:29 pm said:

    fif — yep, especially since getting to the moon had nothing to do with the question.

  264. Regency, on October 7, 2008 at 9:29 pm said:

    You are not the new Kennedy, Barack. Hillary is the new Kennedy.

  265. Seriously, on October 7, 2008 at 9:29 pm said:

    Barky is smirking a lot. Factoring in Obot projection, I predict the talking points will be “Mccain smirked” “McCain sneered”

  266. Sophie, on October 7, 2008 at 9:29 pm said:

    sm: Now I have wine. Much better!

  267. All Afro American Gal, on October 7, 2008 at 9:29 pm said:

    Eww, I hate that McCain goes first. BO steals the answers

    I am laughing about the projector at Adler Planetarium
    That place is a snore.

  268. Carol, on October 7, 2008 at 9:30 pm said:

    McCAin – spending freeze with no earmarks.

  269. Chevalier, on October 7, 2008 at 9:30 pm said:

    i liked how McCain said all the priorities are interconnected, because they are.

  270. Pat Johnson, on October 7, 2008 at 9:30 pm said:

    Would someone explain how this asshole happens to be on this stage tonight and not Hillary Clinton?

  271. janicen, on October 7, 2008 at 9:30 pm said:

    Yeah Johnny!

  272. angienc, on October 7, 2008 at 9:30 pm said:

    Plus, BO was saying he “doesn’t know how he can do (just like when JFK said lets go to the moon — no one knew how they were going to do it) but I’ll get it done.”

  273. phlamingophred, on October 7, 2008 at 9:30 pm said:

    that was a really great question – but JM may have hurt himself with the honest answer about cutting programs. I dont’ disagree with him but most people don’t really want to hear that.

  274. joaniebone, on October 7, 2008 at 9:30 pm said:

    ”

    “Oh shut up, you wind bag. You’ve been post peak since March 4.”

    HA HA! Too funny!
    Please keep regurgitating this debate for me. You know my testy stomach

    HI Sis!!!! I’ve missed you!!!!!!!

  275. Regency, on October 7, 2008 at 9:30 pm said:

    Became DIMocrats are named that for a reason.

  276. Fredster, on October 7, 2008 at 9:30 pm said:

    I can’t bear to watch so I’m doing like fif and reading comments here.

    I’m gonna wear out f5 refreshing!!

  277. Carol, on October 7, 2008 at 9:30 pm said:

    I’m telling you Hillary is going to do Healthcare.

  278. mcnorman, on October 7, 2008 at 9:31 pm said:

    sorry, ask dean and the donkey brazilla

  279. Sophie, on October 7, 2008 at 9:31 pm said:

    Pat J: Because it was fricken’ fixed!

  280. sm77, on October 7, 2008 at 9:31 pm said:

    RD: I know a little about this subject, universal healthcare IS POSSIBLE, especially with the systems in place.

    YES, McCain attacking healthcare!!!! YES SIR, you know we can do it all.

  281. vivienne westwood, on October 7, 2008 at 9:31 pm said:

    9/11 here we go – is he talking abt ayers – maybe not!

  282. Denise W, on October 7, 2008 at 9:31 pm said:

    Yes- 911 – remember Ayers?

  283. edgeoforever, on October 7, 2008 at 9:31 pm said:

    Obama first to 911 us. I miss Rudy 😉

  284. still4hill, on October 7, 2008 at 9:31 pm said:

    oh god! here he goes with 9/11.

  285. dakinikat, on October 7, 2008 at 9:31 pm said:

    a lot of you remember the tragedy of 9/11?

    uh, How about ALL of US remember it!

    sheesh!

  286. Honora, on October 7, 2008 at 9:31 pm said:

    When my buddy Ayers stepped on the flag and said that he had not bombed enough buildings.

  287. fif, on October 7, 2008 at 9:31 pm said:

    Hillary is better than Kennedy. She is FDR. He was a better president.

    What is Brokaw doing that is bugging everyone?

  288. poplicola, on October 7, 2008 at 9:31 pm said:

    “You know, a lot of you remember, the tragedy of 911…”

    wtf?

  289. OldCoastie, on October 7, 2008 at 9:31 pm said:

    “aaaannnndddd” has replaced “uh uh uh”

  290. Regency, on October 7, 2008 at 9:31 pm said:

    where did this come from?

  291. phlamingophred, on October 7, 2008 at 9:31 pm said:

    he didn’t just bring up 9/11? what a foron (f@cking moron for those who don’t know) I don’t care what his rationale was, it’s just wrong

  292. All Afro American Gal, on October 7, 2008 at 9:31 pm said:

    Obama is not answering the question.

  293. Britannia, on October 7, 2008 at 9:31 pm said:

    Barky sits so pretty. Snort..

  294. Sophie, on October 7, 2008 at 9:31 pm said:

    Carol: Do you think President McCain would put Hillary in charge of health care reform?

  295. WMCB, on October 7, 2008 at 9:32 pm said:

    Answer the question, Obama. What will you sacrifice?

  296. fif, on October 7, 2008 at 9:32 pm said:

    No Barrack, 9/11 slipped our minds. Again, he’s so emotionally disconnected.

  297. Denise W, on October 7, 2008 at 9:32 pm said:

    Now he’s for offshore drilling

  298. BPD, on October 7, 2008 at 9:32 pm said:

    obama not answering the questions!

  299. dakinikat, on October 7, 2008 at 9:32 pm said:

    i can’t believe Obama playing the 9/11 card … that just beats all!

  300. Carol, on October 7, 2008 at 9:32 pm said:

    Go out and shop was extremely important after 9/11- that is what literally saved us. We had to continue everyday activity or the economy would have been finished.

    BO is about to tell us to air up our tires, just when I was getting used to driving on them almost flat!

  301. sm77, on October 7, 2008 at 9:32 pm said:

    Carol: Only under a McCain administration will I allow Hillary to work on it!

  302. janicen, on October 7, 2008 at 9:32 pm said:

    Clean coal? But Barry, Joe Biden said ‘No clean coal…”

  303. katiebird, on October 7, 2008 at 9:32 pm said:

    I keep telling people: The only person in this election who’s actually brought health care to people all over the world is Cindy McCain. That’s gotta have an effect on Senator McCain

  304. vivienne westwood, on October 7, 2008 at 9:32 pm said:

    was he for off shore drilling and nuclear – saving energy?

    what is next switching off the air con to save the country – pleaaaze??!!

  305. Britannia, on October 7, 2008 at 9:32 pm said:

    Why did he even mention “go out and shop?” He doesn’t know how to answer this one, and he’s had minutes to think about it.

  306. mcnorman, on October 7, 2008 at 9:32 pm said:

    Barky will never allow HRC on anything. He hates her. She has not sucked up enough

  307. Regency, on October 7, 2008 at 9:32 pm said:

    I don’t even recall the question

  308. MTdob4Hill, on October 7, 2008 at 9:33 pm said:

    Yep, I am with Regency…I like the passion I hear in McCain’s voice. I also have to admit I couldn’t watch without the sound. Although…with each “And” I could swear.

  309. Ann On, on October 7, 2008 at 9:33 pm said:

    I’m not listening [LALALALALALA] if Barky’s claiming to be the new JFK, Johnny Mac oughta give him Lloyd Bentsen’s line.

  310. still4hill, on October 7, 2008 at 9:33 pm said:

    He never says HOW!! Just what.

  311. Honora, on October 7, 2008 at 9:33 pm said:

    Obviously not, my young people are already upstairs goofing off.

  312. dylane04, on October 7, 2008 at 9:33 pm said:

    That is a major shift senator BO! Energy, energy???

  313. angienc, on October 7, 2008 at 9:33 pm said:

    BPD — no one will notice how he didn’t answer the questions.

  314. vivienne westwood, on October 7, 2008 at 9:33 pm said:

    is he talking abt the hitler ooops obama youth??

  315. OldCoastie, on October 7, 2008 at 9:33 pm said:

    AAAG – BO has not answered any question that was asked yet…

  316. joaniebone, on October 7, 2008 at 9:33 pm said:

    Is he going to say “September the eleventh” like Bush?

  317. Chevalier, on October 7, 2008 at 9:33 pm said:

    SM77: Hillary would’ve done 10 at the blink of an eye with a gimp leg, blindfolded and hogtied and done 20 at this point.

    LOLLLLL!!!!!

  318. Britannia, on October 7, 2008 at 9:33 pm said:

    He sounded like Carter. And we all know how that went.

  319. Pat Johnson, on October 7, 2008 at 9:33 pm said:

    This man talks in circles. Poor speech pattern and answers searching for a goddamned period!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  320. Regency, on October 7, 2008 at 9:33 pm said:

    I still don’t know wtf he’s talking about.

    Motherfucker, did he just steal Hillary’s new public service plan?

  321. MTdob4Hill, on October 7, 2008 at 9:33 pm said:

    The 0 likes diversion tactics…he doesn’t mention what he will do, he just points fingers.

  322. Kat5, on October 7, 2008 at 9:34 pm said:

    I leave for 15 minutes & come home to 321 comments??? Go for it, conflucians.

  323. bostonboomer, on October 7, 2008 at 9:34 pm said:

    That was pretty cool when McCain said “We’re Americans! We can do it!” Meanwhile Obama talks about how we’ll all have to “bear the burden.” He sounds negative, and McCain sounds positive.

  324. katiebird, on October 7, 2008 at 9:34 pm said:

    (waving) Hi Joanie!!

  325. sister of ye, on October 7, 2008 at 9:34 pm said:

    Hey, Tom, don’t be dissing getting drunk. It’s the only way to get thru these debates.

    Oh, it was a metaphor. Never mind.

  326. Honora, on October 7, 2008 at 9:34 pm said:

    I want Hillary back. She is the real leader.

  327. Regency, on October 7, 2008 at 9:34 pm said:

    *gags self*

    Your answers suck. John’s aren’t great but they’re better than this!

  328. vivienne westwood, on October 7, 2008 at 9:34 pm said:

    okay folks – pls remind me of the question

  329. riverdaughter, on October 7, 2008 at 9:34 pm said:

    Hi Joanie! Hi Kbird! There’s a new thread up. Everyone migrate….

  330. All Afro American Gal, on October 7, 2008 at 9:34 pm said:

    Do you see that lady in the back whose smile reeks of Kool Aid everytime Barry speaks?

  331. txredneck, on October 7, 2008 at 9:34 pm said:

    Sitting here, drinking my beer, gun in one hand, bible in the other, wondering how in the h*** anyone could ever look at B.O. without laughing. We get it. He’s a fraud.
    By the way, all teachers aren’t women.

  332. Sandra S., on October 7, 2008 at 9:35 pm said:

    Is Obama/Brokaw suggesting that the Federal Gov’t is a role model for the young folk in terms of fiscal responsibility? WTF???

  333. mcnorman, on October 7, 2008 at 9:35 pm said:

    socialism
    socialism

  334. angienc, on October 7, 2008 at 9:35 pm said:

    WTF? That was way more then one minute.

  335. Carol, on October 7, 2008 at 9:35 pm said:

    Stop the class warfare Barky! You are an effing idiot.

  336. bostonboomer, on October 7, 2008 at 9:35 pm said:

    joaniebone,

    He modeled his campaign on Bush’s, why not his speech patterns?

  337. phlamingophred, on October 7, 2008 at 9:35 pm said:

    how is that answering that specific question?

  338. Regency, on October 7, 2008 at 9:35 pm said:

    Egg timer, damn it!

  339. angienc, on October 7, 2008 at 9:35 pm said:

    btw, EFF BO for using the “hatchet/scapel” line.

  340. Sophie, on October 7, 2008 at 9:35 pm said:

    sm: Wine was definitely a good idea. How much of this do I need to drink before Barky stops getting on my nerves?

  341. edgeoforever, on October 7, 2008 at 9:35 pm said:

    he wants to use a scalpel to the people who need help? Jack the Ripper solution?

  342. sm77, on October 7, 2008 at 9:35 pm said:

    NAILING Jello to the wall….BINGO!

  343. Denise W, on October 7, 2008 at 9:35 pm said:

    JM Nailed him!

  344. poplicola, on October 7, 2008 at 9:35 pm said:

    SOD — its nice that the ad after the last debate took away Obama’s ability to say, “I agree with Senator McCain…”

  345. angienc, on October 7, 2008 at 9:36 pm said:

    I want to slap that smirk of of his face!! make it stop!

  346. joaniebone, on October 7, 2008 at 9:36 pm said:

    Comin right up, RD!

  347. Chevalier, on October 7, 2008 at 9:37 pm said:

    🙂 he just compared Obama’s tax policy to Hoover’s. While Hoover was correct, he was unpopular.
    Ironic that McCain’s using that for Obama, who’s usually incorrect, but popular.

  348. Britannia, on October 7, 2008 at 9:37 pm said:

    Obama doesn’t do well without a a lectern. He always needs a crutch.

  349. garychapelhill, on October 7, 2008 at 9:37 pm said:

    why doesn brokaw keep complaining about time, but lets obama talk for 5 minutes??????

  350. Seriously, on October 7, 2008 at 9:37 pm said:

    Oh god, what a twit.

  351. Sophie, on October 7, 2008 at 9:37 pm said:

    poplicola: Now he just leaves out the “I agree with John McCain” part, and goes right into repeating McCain’s answer.

  352. angienc, on October 7, 2008 at 9:37 pm said:

    DON”T YOU DARE LET HIM!!

  353. BPD, on October 7, 2008 at 9:37 pm said:

    obama is such a punk

  354. txredneck, on October 7, 2008 at 9:37 pm said:

    I might just have to shoot the tv the next time he butts in and tries to change the rulZZZZZZZZZZZ

  355. Denise W, on October 7, 2008 at 9:38 pm said:

    I really wish they wouldn’t show BO – that smirk is disgusting- he either has the knitted brown Igor look or the natsty smirk

  356. Sophie, on October 7, 2008 at 9:38 pm said:

    wow! Way to show some backbone Brokaw!

  357. angienc, on October 7, 2008 at 9:38 pm said:

    Chevaler – LOL

  358. dakinikat, on October 7, 2008 at 9:38 pm said:

    Notice how Senator Obama doesn’t want to play by the rules his OWN campaign negotiated?

  359. Nijma, on October 7, 2008 at 9:38 pm said:

    Use the Peace Corps interchangeable with military? Gack, we have to fight THAT one again?

  360. Britannia, on October 7, 2008 at 9:38 pm said:

    Oh good, Brokaw didn’t let Obama whine.

  361. WMCB, on October 7, 2008 at 9:38 pm said:

    Oh, what an ASS! Gee, Tom, can’t you break the rules for meeeee????????

  362. angienc, on October 7, 2008 at 9:38 pm said:

    I’m impressed that Brokaw did that too Sophie

  363. phlamingophred, on October 7, 2008 at 9:39 pm said:

    migrated

  364. mcnorman, on October 7, 2008 at 9:39 pm said:

    every smirk will be on a new ad

  365. angienc, on October 7, 2008 at 9:39 pm said:

    So you are going to cut taxes for 95% of Americans and pay for everything how? Oh yeah, capital gains tax — that is a way to get people to invest in the market.

  366. WMCB, on October 7, 2008 at 9:40 pm said:

    So now, instead of answering the question, he is going to defend himself on the last question.

    He MUST have the last word, always. He’s like that every debate.

  367. Denise W, on October 7, 2008 at 9:40 pm said:

    meant knitted brow

  368. Sophie, on October 7, 2008 at 9:40 pm said:

    Not true barky…expenses add up and they’re only deductions, not tax credits

  369. angienc, on October 7, 2008 at 9:40 pm said:

    More then a minute.

  370. edgeoforever, on October 7, 2008 at 9:40 pm said:

    Smal businesses make 250,000 a year – lots of them!

  371. sister of ye, on October 7, 2008 at 9:40 pm said:

    God damn it! I’ve been paying payroll tax thru the nose since Reagan to “save Social Security.” Put back the damn money the lot of you stole from the trust fund and we’ll have enough to pay benefits. Idiots, both of them.

  372. Regency, on October 7, 2008 at 9:40 pm said:

    You can’t cut taxes & increase spending. That’s called debt increase.

  373. angienc, on October 7, 2008 at 9:41 pm said:

    yes, edgeoforever — lots of them do.

  374. Sophie, on October 7, 2008 at 9:41 pm said:

    WMCB: Obama is a small, small man. He is no leader and no visionary. He needs therapy.

  375. Britannia, on October 7, 2008 at 9:41 pm said:

    Gawd, Barky is so incoherent.

  376. still4hill, on October 7, 2008 at 9:41 pm said:

    edge – I thought that was a big underestimate too

  377. poplicola, on October 7, 2008 at 9:41 pm said:

    lmao!

    “I’ll answer the question.”

  378. mcnorman, on October 7, 2008 at 9:41 pm said:

    i’ll answer the question
    ha
    eat it barky

  379. Britannia, on October 7, 2008 at 9:41 pm said:

    McCain: I’ll answer the question. Zing!

  380. edwardian, on October 7, 2008 at 9:41 pm said:

    JM: “I’ll answer the questions (laughs)”

    LOL!

  381. NH, on October 7, 2008 at 9:41 pm said:

    Sorry, but I think both of these guys are doing lousy.

  382. Regency, on October 7, 2008 at 9:42 pm said:

    Thank God, somebody answer the damn question!

  383. still4hill, on October 7, 2008 at 9:42 pm said:

    rhetoric and record – go john!!!

  384. mcnorman, on October 7, 2008 at 9:42 pm said:

    barky is barky and jm is mccain
    he has been told don’t be mean
    i think he should rip him a new one

  385. Sophie, on October 7, 2008 at 9:43 pm said:

    Can we please have Hillary back now?

  386. txredneck, on October 7, 2008 at 9:43 pm said:

    It used to annoy me when McCain called me his friend, but tonight I’m convinced that he means it, it’s not a ploy.

  387. still4hill, on October 7, 2008 at 9:43 pm said:

    NH – sorry – you’re thinking too much about how Hillary would be answering…

  388. dakinikat, on October 7, 2008 at 9:43 pm said:

    joanie: Obama already played the september 11 card

  389. gxm17, on October 7, 2008 at 9:43 pm said:

    I think I’ve had too much to drink. Obama is making no sense whatsoever.

    But seriously, I think Johnny Mac is doing well. I’m impressed. I really like that he represents a “mature” person who clearly has his marbles intact AND the wisdom gained through experience.

  390. MK5112 Tx, on October 7, 2008 at 9:44 pm said:

    the channel is asking us to text who won the debate. I dont know how to text – can anyone help me do this

  391. mcnorman, on October 7, 2008 at 9:44 pm said:

    ahahaha
    he cut himself off from bush

  392. Marlowe, on October 7, 2008 at 9:44 pm said:

    I can’t stand him but I think that Obama’s coming across better than McCain. He does have his uh, uh problem pretty much under control.

    McCain needs to use “my friends” more judiciously.

  393. Regency, on October 7, 2008 at 9:45 pm said:

    The debate isn’t even over yet and we’re looking for a winner?

  394. Sophie, on October 7, 2008 at 9:45 pm said:

    I was in the Navy too. The nuclear powered subs once jump started the main power facility on one of the Hawaiian islands while I was there! pretty cool stuff. But we have to do it safely, like France.

  395. Regency, on October 7, 2008 at 9:45 pm said:

    He’s not opposed to nuclear power anymore last time I checked.

  396. Sandra S., on October 7, 2008 at 9:46 pm said:

    Well, Regency, give it five minutes. He’ll change his mind.

  397. txredneck, on October 7, 2008 at 9:46 pm said:

    I haven’t had enough to drink to think that this socialistic, narcissitic, bull****er has a clue. Workin’ on it though.

  398. WMCB, on October 7, 2008 at 9:46 pm said:

    Just dial in the number on the screen into the text menu of your phone, type in “A” or “B” or whatever, hit send.

  399. still4hill, on October 7, 2008 at 9:46 pm said:

    he did drill not saying uh – but it doesn’t make the bull flow any more smoothly.

  400. angienc, on October 7, 2008 at 9:46 pm said:

    Now he FAVORS nuclear power? He didn’t in Iowa.
    Big surprised.

  401. Sophie, on October 7, 2008 at 9:46 pm said:

    I can only feel one thing (HT to Carol): PUMA HAKA 👿

  402. reaganchick, on October 7, 2008 at 9:46 pm said:

    MK5112: the # on the screen is the number you’re sending the text to. the letter indicating who you think is winning goes as the message

  403. edgeoforever, on October 7, 2008 at 9:46 pm said:

    Agrees with McCain again?

  404. garychapelhill, on October 7, 2008 at 9:46 pm said:

    mccain speaks in specifics, obama speaks in word fogs…

  405. NH, on October 7, 2008 at 9:46 pm said:

    Do you folks notice that both candidates are channelling Bill Clinton. I remember the town hall with Bill and Bush and Bill was WOW. He moved to each questioner and was really good. Neither of these guys are near as good, but they are trying.

  407. dakinikat, on October 7, 2008 at 9:47 pm said:

    MK5112 Tx: First, write down the number you have to dial and then the number you want to resond with, then you have to go to the place in your phone where the text message option is… choose send text message, type in the number where, then when it asks you for what the message is type the code in, then hit send …

    that usually works

  408. mcnorman, on October 7, 2008 at 9:47 pm said:

    he agrees bc he doesn’t have a better answer

  409. angienc, on October 7, 2008 at 9:47 pm said:

    You know — maybe BO is only talking for one minute — it just seems like 5.

  410. Flik, on October 7, 2008 at 9:48 pm said:

    I’m impressed that Brokaw keeps calling BO on the time limit.

  411. NH, on October 7, 2008 at 9:48 pm said:

    McCain should call Obama on his ‘speaking with forked tongue”

  412. mcnorman, on October 7, 2008 at 9:48 pm said:

    well, he is a legend in his own mind quite possible

  413. dakinikat, on October 7, 2008 at 9:48 pm said:

    yeah, angienc, tom just yelled at him for that … obama just doesn’t want to play by the rules for every one else does he

  414. edwardian, on October 7, 2008 at 9:48 pm said:

    BO comes acrossed as polished …

    turd.

  415. edwardian, on October 7, 2008 at 9:48 pm said:

    BO comes across as polished …

    turd.

  416. garychapelhill, on October 7, 2008 at 9:48 pm said:

    did he say they invented computers to communicate? I don’t think thats right is it?

  417. angienc, on October 7, 2008 at 9:49 pm said:

    Bush/Cheney energy bill is a disgrace — too bad most of the morons in this country don’t know that.

  418. Britannia, on October 7, 2008 at 9:49 pm said:

    Oooo, McCain can be sooo snarky!

  419. angienc, on October 7, 2008 at 9:49 pm said:

    edwardian LOL

  420. txredneck, on October 7, 2008 at 9:49 pm said:

    There you go John, wrap that Bush-Cheney energy bill around his lying lips.

  421. gxm17, on October 7, 2008 at 9:50 pm said:

    garychapelhill, thank goodness it’s not just me! i can never figure out what it was that obama just said. his words are like vapor.

  422. Britannia, on October 7, 2008 at 9:50 pm said:

    McCain is loose tonight.

  423. Marlowe, on October 7, 2008 at 9:50 pm said:

    “I’m just trying to keep up with John” was Obama’s response to being called on taking too much time with his answers.

    Is everything someone else’s fault?

  424. Sophie, on October 7, 2008 at 9:50 pm said:

    (About being repeatedly asked about healthcare)
    And yet, you distanced yourself from Hillary. You Idgit!

  425. MTdob4Hill, on October 7, 2008 at 9:51 pm said:

    wow…a second thread already!

  426. txredneck, on October 7, 2008 at 9:51 pm said:

    Yeah, health care costs have doubled, just like your wife’s salary.

  427. Denise W, on October 7, 2008 at 9:51 pm said:

    I just don’t get someone being undecided this late in the game. I respect it -just don’t get it

  428. angienc, on October 7, 2008 at 9:51 pm said:

    did he just snap his fingers or am I hallucinating from boredom?

  429. Regency, on October 7, 2008 at 9:51 pm said:

    He just stole Hillary’s words again.

  430. edgeoforever, on October 7, 2008 at 9:51 pm said:

    Hillary: a moral commitment. barky can’t say it

  431. Flik, on October 7, 2008 at 9:51 pm said:

    Marlowe: Of course it is! The One can do no wrong!

  432. Seriously, on October 7, 2008 at 9:51 pm said:

    new thread new thread

  433. still4hill, on October 7, 2008 at 9:51 pm said:

    information tech + medical info + FISA= Bastard!

  434. Sophie, on October 7, 2008 at 9:52 pm said:

    Denise: Undecideds are really saying they don’t like either one and can’t figure out who really is the lesser of two evils. I think it’s pretty obvious myself.

  435. mcnorman, on October 7, 2008 at 9:52 pm said:

    Holy cow
    how is he going to pay for the federal indemnity health plan?

  436. Sandra S., on October 7, 2008 at 9:52 pm said:

    WORD, Still4Hill.

  437. edgeoforever, on October 7, 2008 at 9:52 pm said:

    Tim’s up, Barky!

  438. angienc, on October 7, 2008 at 9:52 pm said:

    Denise — could be they don’t really like either so they don’t know who to vote for. I think that could be understandable.

  439. Nijma, on October 7, 2008 at 9:52 pm said:

    “as I travel around the country…” I’m tired of hearing that phrase.

  440. mcnorman, on October 7, 2008 at 9:53 pm said:

    what Barky is proposing will force doctors to provide medicaid to all

  441. Sandra S., on October 7, 2008 at 9:53 pm said:

    Oh yeah, the unraveling of the employer-based healthcare system would be CATASTROPHIC.

  442. angienc, on October 7, 2008 at 9:54 pm said:

    I think both of these health care plans are pretty much the same — buy your ‘effing own.

  443. poplicola, on October 7, 2008 at 9:55 pm said:

    WOW

    …like hair transplants…”

  444. mcnorman, on October 7, 2008 at 9:55 pm said:

    medicare pays docs 23 cents on the dollar
    add Barky’s tax increases and you have socialized medicine which sucks

  445. edwardian, on October 7, 2008 at 9:55 pm said:

    Nijma, on October 7th, 2008 at 9:52 pm Said:
    “as I travel around the country…” I’m tired of hearing that phrase.

    Well you just trying trekking all 57 states, and back again.

  446. Nijma, on October 7, 2008 at 9:55 pm said:

    no, obama’s plan is like the one I’ve got in Illinois. I have to pay taxes towards other people’s children health insurance, but I can’t get medical care myself.

  447. txredneck, on October 7, 2008 at 9:56 pm said:

    Healthcare won’t change until birth control pills are covered and viagra is not.

  448. angienc, on October 7, 2008 at 9:56 pm said:

    poplicola — I’m surprised he didn’t say “like Joe Biden’s hair transplants”

  449. mcnorman, on October 7, 2008 at 9:56 pm said:

    angienc
    lol

  450. angienc, on October 7, 2008 at 9:57 pm said:

    Eff BO

  451. txredneck, on October 7, 2008 at 9:57 pm said:

    Yes, Barry, where were you? Not at her side when she was dying of cancer. You piece of ………

  452. mcnorman, on October 7, 2008 at 9:58 pm said:

    CHIP sucks
    in Tx

  453. edgeoforever, on October 7, 2008 at 9:58 pm said:

    txredneck – my thought exactly

  454. Nijma, on October 7, 2008 at 9:58 pm said:

    See? health care for children, children children, but not for the rest of us.

  455. WMCB, on October 7, 2008 at 9:58 pm said:

    So once again, Obama is going over time (he obviously looked at the light), but says “Fuck you, fuck the rules, I’m going to talk as long as I want.

    Is anyone keeping time here? McCain is following the rules, and Obama is not.

  456. mcnorman, on October 7, 2008 at 9:58 pm said:

    he was registering felons under ACORN to vote

  457. angienc, on October 7, 2008 at 9:58 pm said:

    Should you be mentioning Delaware & credit cards?

  458. mcnorman, on October 7, 2008 at 9:59 pm said:

    Obama doesn’t have rules

  459. angienc, on October 7, 2008 at 9:59 pm said:

    That guy looks like an Obot to me

  460. edgeoforever, on October 7, 2008 at 10:00 pm said:

    WMCB Bush was doing the same in 2004

  461. mcnorman, on October 7, 2008 at 10:01 pm said:

    on the job training
    yes

  462. txredneck, on October 7, 2008 at 10:01 pm said:

    Wrong about the surge, wrong about Russia-Geogia, “we don’t have time for on the job training.”

    Wiping the floor with his own positions.

  463. angienc, on October 7, 2008 at 10:02 pm said:

    Let me tell you how wrong McCain is to dare criticize me.

  464. stateofdisbelief, on October 7, 2008 at 9:02 pm said:

    80 uncommitted voters??

  465. edgeoforever, on October 7, 2008 at 10:02 pm said:

    Hillary line – ‘on the job training”

  466. stateofdisbelief, on October 7, 2008 at 9:02 pm said:

    thanks Kat5 [[[ crunch crunch ]]]

  467. txredneck, on October 7, 2008 at 10:03 pm said:

    How the heck would you know about the troops you sniviling socialist? Didn’t go to visit the troops until embarassed into the trip. Didn’t visit with those injured when in Germany.

  468. mcnorman, on October 7, 2008 at 10:03 pm said:

    Is it me, or are all these questions a bunch of flaming liberal topics?

  469. Alwaysthinking, on October 7, 2008 at 10:04 pm said:

    Gary — first programmable computer was developed in Great Britain to crack German codes during WWII.

  470. txredneck, on October 7, 2008 at 10:04 pm said:

    Called “Enigma.”

  471. angienc, on October 7, 2008 at 10:05 pm said:

    Did he just imply we went into WW2 only because of our security interests? I didn’t follow that.

  472. MK5112 Tx, on October 7, 2008 at 10:06 pm said:

    shut up barky

  473. stateofdisbelief, on October 7, 2008 at 9:06 pm said:

    “tax cuts” and “help” “fix the energy system”

    ohhh wow

  474. NH, on October 7, 2008 at 10:08 pm said:

    I still don’t get McCain’s health care proposal. Sounds like crap.

  475. stateofdisbelief, on October 7, 2008 at 9:08 pm said:

    Go John — details!

  476. txredneck, on October 7, 2008 at 10:09 pm said:

    So how do you like Obama”s. Sounds like crap.

  477. NH, on October 7, 2008 at 10:09 pm said:

    Who think McCain is doing well?

  478. stateofdisbelief, on October 7, 2008 at 9:10 pm said:

    “What he/she said”

  479. stateofdisbelief, on October 7, 2008 at 9:10 pm said:

    I’m chugging a shot everytime he sez “middle class”

  480. dylane04, on October 7, 2008 at 10:10 pm said:

    I did not get BO’s health plan for those who can’t afford any kind of plan.

  481. txredneck, on October 7, 2008 at 10:11 pm said:

    Coddle Pakistan? Encourage dictators? WTF? Doesn’t he understand the difficulty and intracacy of the ethnic and tribal positions in that part of the world?

    Sweet Jesus!

  482. angienc, on October 7, 2008 at 10:12 pm said:

    NH — me either, but I think it is basically this — you get $5000 tax credit a year to pay for your health care insurance. I don’t understand how this is different from BO’s “subsidy” to buy into the federal program.

  483. phlamingophred, on October 7, 2008 at 10:12 pm said:

    can everyone please migrate to the new thread? I’m getting whiplash trying to keep up with two

  484. MK5112 Tx, on October 7, 2008 at 10:12 pm said:

    I think most people dont spend $5000 a yr on health care but if you buy a plan- you arent limited to the plans in the state you live in- it can be in any state- so the programs will be competitive – if they arent those companys wont survive.
    so this $5000 will pay the basic plan payments per person-I am assuming this is $5000 a person???
    This actually covers alot of the plans costs I think.

  485. angienc, on October 7, 2008 at 10:13 pm said:

    Jesus!

  486. mcnorman, on October 7, 2008 at 10:13 pm said:

    Barky just wants to do Chicago Style Thuggery around the World

  487. stateofdisbelief, on October 7, 2008 at 9:13 pm said:

    yesssssss…

  488. angienc, on October 7, 2008 at 10:13 pm said:

    Yes he did — I heard him say “I will take them out”

  489. stateofdisbelief, on October 7, 2008 at 9:14 pm said:

    phlaminophred….

    If I have to I’ll tap into the Christmas Party stock…

  490. mcnorman, on October 7, 2008 at 10:16 pm said:

    The Fed Plan is an indemnity plan that is extremely expensive. If we get to buy into it, you services will be lessened. The reimbursement rate for docs is less than half of what is billed out.
    You get to choose with JM. That means if you are healthy you can use an HCA

  491. Mo, on October 7, 2008 at 10:16 pm said:

    NH, you are not alone. I don’t understand it either. How is a $5,000 credit is going to help a family who may have a child with special needs and healthcare costs for that child can cost @$15,000 a year. Thank goodness I have insurance that pays for 80% and sometimes 100% of cost. If we have McCain’s healthcare what will that $5,000 do for my family? Leave us with a $10,000 balance to pay providers?

  492. MK5112 Tx, on October 7, 2008 at 10:18 pm said:

    A friend of mine from canada said their system does include everyone but there is a que and that que can be very long, so they end up coming here because they can get into our doctors .
    they dont like their system.

  493. stateofdisbelief, on October 7, 2008 at 9:19 pm said:

    Welll….look

  494. bostonboomer, on October 7, 2008 at 10:19 pm said:

    More than 500 comments on this thread!

  495. stateofdisbelief, on October 7, 2008 at 9:20 pm said:

    gxm…ROFLMAO

  496. stateofdisbelief, on October 7, 2008 at 9:21 pm said:

    I smell smoke…is someone’s pants on fire?

  497. dylane04, on October 7, 2008 at 10:21 pm said:

    They are both low key, which makes the debate a bit boring and hard to follow.

  498. stateofdisbelief, on October 7, 2008 at 9:22 pm said:

    👿

  499. MK5112 Tx, on October 7, 2008 at 10:23 pm said:

    I will have to look into that , is her plan on her site yet??

  500. mcnorman, on October 7, 2008 at 10:23 pm said:

    Your insurance plans pay a contracted rate. They do not pay 100% or 80% of the billed amount. Hence. The insurance companies decide what your services are worth. You choose.

  501. stateofdisbelief, on October 7, 2008 at 9:25 pm said:

    He should’ve mentioned Hillary across the aisle

  502. mcnorman, on October 7, 2008 at 10:25 pm said:

    I know Canadians that cross over to the states because they can get services as you pay. Socialized medicine creates a sluggish albeit free healthcare system that you maybe happy with or not.
    Socialized medicine does not pay for those extras like experimental drugs for cancer.

  503. stateofdisbelief, on October 7, 2008 at 9:26 pm said:

    Emperor of the Milky Way and Beyond.

  504. MK5112 Tx, on October 7, 2008 at 10:28 pm said:

    personally I dont believe anyone has to pay all of anything of mine- I am responsible for me and if i take care of my body and mind then I feel this will improve my chances to live a longer , healthier life.
    Anyone who thinks someone out there owes them a living is living in a make believe land. That is also a socialistic state and I would rather have a choice. So I dont think there is a perfect plan out there right now.

  505. stateofdisbelief, on October 7, 2008 at 9:30 pm said:

    Oh snap!

  506. Marlowe, on October 7, 2008 at 10:31 pm said:

    Consumer Reports has a good case-by-case comparison of their plans. It seems to come down to McCain’s plan being good for the healthy and those who currently have insurance and BO’s plan being better for those who can’t now afford any healthcare. The article doesn’t address how much either plan will cost the taxpayer and how either candidate will find those dollars in out current budget.

  507. Mo, on October 7, 2008 at 10:31 pm said:

    Employers do receive a contracted rate. As an employee, I pay 20% of that of my coverage. Now if we have McCain’s HC, I feel that the contracted rate that employers are currently getting will disappear and that will raise employees premimums… so the $5,000 is not going to help with my finances… I see that there’s going to be more budget cuts within my household…. How much more do I need to cut from my family in order to live?

  508. Mo, on October 7, 2008 at 10:33 pm said:

    20% of most services

  509. stateofdisbelief, on October 7, 2008 at 9:33 pm said:

    RD — exactly .

  510. stateofdisbelief, on October 7, 2008 at 9:34 pm said:

    He almost agreed with McCain and had to cut himself off.

  511. MK5112 Tx, on October 7, 2008 at 10:35 pm said:

    I dont know alot about the canadian system but I do have a few friends there and it sounded like they didnt like it because it took to long to get in when there was a real problem.
    But as for the debate i think McCain did well. he sure has knowledge about foriegn affairs.

  512. MK5112 Tx, on October 7, 2008 at 10:38 pm said:

    I wish McCain had given obama a real sucker punch- to bad like they said , McCain needed to do something to change momentum and he may not have done it. But McCain was very knowledgable.

  513. SergeiRostov, on October 7, 2008 at 10:38 pm said:

    MK5112 Tx, on October 7th, 2008 at 10:18 pm Said:
    A friend of mine from canada said their system does include everyone but there is a que and that que can be very long, so they end up coming here because they can get into our doctors .
    they dont like their system.

    I don’t have a link to the study (apologies), but I read that in Canada, 85% of those who need elective surgery get it the same day, all those who need care get it right away. Canadians who are coming here are doing so because they don’t want to wait for procedures they don’t really need.

  514. SergeiRostov, on October 7, 2008 at 10:48 pm said:

    angienc, on October 7th, 2008 at 9:46 pm Said:
    Now he FAVORS nuclear power? He didn’t in Iowa.
    Big surprised.

    Just like he was for regulating it until he took a bribe from Exelon, then rewrote his own bill to suit them.

  515. stateofdisbelief, on October 7, 2008 at 10:16 pm said:

    Let’s be honest…Mac’s HC plan stinks.

  516. stateofdisbelief, on October 7, 2008 at 10:20 pm said:

    What a loss. 😦

  517. stateofdisbelief, on October 7, 2008 at 10:22 pm said:

    MK5112 — that is an inaccurate statement.

  518. stateofdisbelief, on October 7, 2008 at 10:27 pm said:

    I’m not sure where you’re getting your information from.

  519. stateofdisbelief, on October 7, 2008 at 10:28 pm said:

    Who is “Mcnorman?”

  520. starling, on October 15, 2008 at 10:03 pm said:

    Please PEOPLE…..Simply said it’s time 4 CHANGE

  521. POOKIE, on October 15, 2008 at 10:07 pm said:

    WHO THE HELL IS JOE! I HATE THIS! ITS HEATING ME UP

  522. Lea, on October 15, 2008 at 10:20 pm said:

    I will vote for a woman if she is intelligent and has her head screwed on her body. I will not vote for a woman because she is a woman.

    Sarah Palinis just a woman!!!! She does not represent me. I am more than just a pretty woman.

  523. rachael thinks McCain is an idiot, on October 15, 2008 at 10:25 pm said:

    What an old coot!

  524. Carrie, on October 15, 2008 at 10:45 pm said:

    Obama did much better than Mccain. All Mccain did was get angry and start nonsense disputes about little things that didn’t matter – and whats with Mccain saying that “he’s proud of the people who come to his rallys” right after he admitted that people call obama a terrorist and want to kill him? oh my god!
    Mccain also skipped around questions and did not answer them, whereas Obama stayed more on topic and gave quality answers. Did you also happen to notice how calm Obama was? He never once let his emotions completely get the best of him – a true presidential figure.

  525. Joey, on October 15, 2008 at 10:49 pm said:

    i completely agree. Obama did soooo much better than McCain. McCain cant control his emotions!!!!!! He just kept being all fussy and freaking out about things that were completely off topic. Obama may not have as much experience, but he has more obvious intellegence of the material and he doesnt need little notes in front of him all the time like McCain did. Obama KNOWS the material.

  526. Lea, on October 16, 2008 at 6:42 pm said:

    $3M overhead projector… Please people check the facts. This is heavy scientific stuff, that you can use to see jupiter and other planets. I took my kids from school and it was really cool. I also looks scary!!!. The current projector that they have is very old. A new one cost around $10m. Go on line, check the facts, don’t listen to propoganda. Check things out for yourself.

    Visit alderplanetarium.org

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