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On the Lighter Side…Obama and EV: A Play in One Unrequited Act.

Author’s Note: This play was inspired by the fact that Obama is determined to pursue the unattainable evangelical vote, while alienating so many other ready, willing and able Democratic base groups.

The Irresistible Evangelical Voter
The Irresistible Evangelical Voter

THE SCENE: Outside of a movie theater in Anytown, USA. The marquee reads: “Now Playing: The 2008 Presidential Election.” An attractive, well-dressed woman, EV (meaning “Evangelical Voter” and pronounced “Eve”), is standing outside, waiting for her date, JOHN MCCAIN.

As she looks at her watch, BARACK OBAMA walks by EV, then stops. A “coup de foudre” has occurred. He struts up to her confidently.

OBAMA: Excuse me, miss? (EV turns to OBAMA.)  Hi, I’m Barack Obama. I’m a Democratic Senator from Illinois, and you are just about the most beautiful thing I’ve ever seen.

EV (perplexed): Um, hi? Gosh, I’m not used to talking to Democrats. (noticing the way OBAMA is looking at her) In case you’re wondering, I’m not alone. I have a date with John McCain, but he’s a little late.

OBAMA (not listening): Wow. You are just stunning, sweetie. What’s your name?

EV (a little uncomfortably): My full name is Evangelical Voter, but everyone calls me EV for short.

OBAMA: EV, huh? Listen, I’m not gonna play games here. I really, really want you to go to the Presidential Election with me. What can I do to make that happen? You want a kiss?

EV: A kiss? Ewwww. I don’t even know you!

OBAMA (confidently): Well, then, why don’t we get to know each other? My full name is Barack Hussein Obama, and –

EV (interrupting): Oh yeah, I heard about you. (suspiciously) Aren’t you a Muslim? If you haven’t accepted Jesus Christ as your personal savior –

OBAMA: Relax, baby. I’m as Christian as you are. Check out this flyer – I’ve used it in the South to get my message to people like you. Amen!

EV (a tiny bit interested): Well, that’s good. But what else would you do to prove worthy of being my date for this election? I’ve been dating the Republicans for a long time now, and it would take a lot of convincing to make me change my mind!

OBAMA: Hey, you know what? I’ve done a lot already! Look at the people I surround myself with! There’s Donnie McClurkin, Leah Daughtry, Douglas Kmiec – true believers all! And I’m starting a “Faith, Family and Values” tour to show how much I value you and your friends! I even had this great “Joshua Generation” idea in mind to help recruit young evangelicals into Obama for America, but it turned out there were, um, copyright issues.

EV (snickering): That’s right. You’ve had problems with that kind of thing in the past, haven’t you?

OBAMA (hurt): Hey, that was just a misunderstanding. Anyway, isn’t my outreach to you and your people impressive?

EV (unimpressed): Ehhhh, I don’t think so, Barack. What about all those OTHER friends you have? Reverend Wright? Reverend Pfleger? Reverend Meeks? Those guys aren’t exactly my kind of Christians. And what about THEIR friends? Louis Farrakhan? Oh, please. No thanks, I’m going to stick with John.

OBAMA (becoming desperate): But EV, you know he’s just using you. He’s not really pro-life at all – he’s just saying that to get you to like him! Please, baby, give me one more chance!

(JOHN MCCAIN arrives confidently, with SARAH PALIN on his arm.)

MCCAIN: Hello, my friend. I apologize for being a little late, but (smiling and gesturing to PALIN) I had to pick up a friend.

EV (excited): Oh, hi John! Ooooh, is this your running mate? A WOMAN?

OBAMA (despondently): Oh, shit.

PALIN: Hi, EV. I’m Sarah Palin, the popular, young and attractive Governor of Alaska, and I’m a member of Feminists For Life! (pulls out a family picture) See all my adorable children and my hawt husband, who takes care of the house when I’m out taking care of the state!

EV (barely able to contain herself): Oh MY LORD! A real, bona fide conservative Christian like me! And a WOMAN to boot. Thank you, Jesus! (EV, MCCAIN and PALIN walk joyfully into the theatre.)

OBAMA (sadly): I guess it’s over. Oh, EV, why, why hast thou deserted me? (perking up) Hey, maybe it’s not too late. Maybe if I give her a list of all the Republicans and pro-lifers who have endorsed me! EV! EV!

(OBAMA runs into the theatre after EV and the Republicans.)

(LIGHTS OUT.)

101 Responses

  1. Good job on the play.

    I’m so tired of religion being injected into politics. I wish all of the candidates would keep their religious beliefs to themselves. I don’t care if they worship a rock if they just keep it out of policy making.

    MountainSage

  2. Mountain Sage – AMEN!

    Whoops.

    😉

  3. Obama camp send out video predicting McCain wins the election. Video here http://countusout.wordpress.com/

  4. count us out – What was with that weird fuzzing of the words at the end?

    All the Obama ads seem hostile and nasty to me. I think Obama’s camp is desperate.

  5. Madam – Love it!!! thanks for the grins

  6. *snicker*

    I love it. It’s one of your best.

  7. Thanks, ladies!

    Joanelle – is that you in your avatar? Soooo cute!

  8. Why, SOD, for little ol’ me? (bats eyelashes)

    Seriously – thanks. You’re a doll! 🙂

  9. I love this play, madamab –> 😆

    You are the Mistress of scene-setting, painting a detailed picture and then placing your characters within. One feels like the proverbial “fly on the wall.”

  10. Heh. I just see Obama as the Bad Boyfriend, now and forever.

    😉

  11. Madamab, I love it! Could it be that Barry’s advisors really don’t get EV and her family focused friends at all? Ya think? EV’s got great instincts. A kiss from Barry could be pretty nasty.

  12. “Hi, EV. I’m Sarah Palin, the popular, young and attractive Governor of Alaska, and I’m a member of Feminists For Life!”

    Too funny!

  13. Love it madamab!! Reminds me of a blind date I had… this creep looked under the table at dinner and told me I had “nice legs” and then fell asleep during the movie.

    Then the goon was shocked when i didn’t go out with him again. He’s lucky I didn’t shove popcorn kernels up his azz.

    Keep ’em coming.

  14. In case anyone missed this last night, here is another BIG GAFFE from Obama which clearly demonstrates he is ignorant of the authority of what a President can and cannot do when it comes to a veto of legislation:

    Obama said that as POTUS he will take his pen and go “line by line” to veto (whatever).

    He forgot that a President no longer has the line item veto authority!!

    Now can you imagine for a second if Palin or McCain had said that??? Such comments would have been mocked as clueless and repeatedly ridiculed, etc., and they would get hammered by the Obama cheerleader networks (aka the mainstream media).

    Hey Senator Obama, candidate for POTUS…

    THERE IS NO LINE ITEM VETO SIR.

  15. I’m can’t decide what has charmed me more the use of EV (eve) or the picture … lemme guess who the snake is …

  16. Soupcity – LOL!

    When I was in high school, I went to some party and this guy was literally chasing me all over the house. I finally agreed to go out with him (hey, he had a car) and it was hilarious. The guy was so handsy I called him “The Claw.”

    Needless to say, that was our only date.

  17. IronMan – I noticed that too and thought the very same thing!

    Not ready for primetime….

  18. madamab — this one deserves more than roses. May I lay at your feet a thousand orchids and a bottle of Dom Perignon? [[[[ bowing to the master ]]]]

  19. OMG! (so to speak). That was awesome! *snickering at the brochure*

    Now, just take a big swig of the Kool-Aid and remind yourself that he is “reaching out to different communities”. Yep. That’s what they’re sayin’.

  20. kat – by the way, kudos on your first post – it was excellent! 🙂

  21. Julie – Funny how Obama never seems to reach out to his OWN community…makes you wonder just who he was “organizing” in Chicago…

  22. madamab,
    LOL! Obama is that date where a half an hour into it you notice the conspicuous absence of the interrogative… I I I, me, I, and I….. me

    Thanks for the laugh! 🙂

  23. You’ve definitely characterized the lounge-lizard, snake-oil salesman persona appropriately.

  24. Count Us Out….

  25. Terrific playlet, madamab! I didn’t even know about those other Obama plagarism scandals. I wondered what happened to the Josua Generation. Has he ever had an original idea?
    That was a rhetorical question.

  26. Great post madamab — you encapsulated the entire farce that BO has been playing to woo the EVs perfectly. I have plenty of problems with the EVs being mixed up in politics, but I do have to hand it to them — at least they can recognize a con man when they see one, unlike the fools who are still supporting BO.

  27. btw all — my usuer name is now angienc — I used to post here as just angie.

  28. Hi angienc aka angie!

    Thanks, BB! Is lack of originality another aspect of narcissism, or is that just Obama’s unique and special quality?

  29. Ah yes madamab…the one the strings you along just for his own ego as he pursues other romantic interests. I’ve met him too.

  30. SOD — that is a powerful and correct assessment of BO’s tactics in Missouri — I wonder if the press is going to bother to report it. Yeah, right.

  31. I remember when Bush was going after anybody that said a negative word about “himself.” He was president at the time. Lots of protesters having their rights abridged. More Bush parallels.

  32. I caught that line item veto line of Obama’s. I believe POTUS has never had line item veto authority but every Pres. has wanted it.

    Love our latest playlet.

    Have you noticed the right wing now going after Palin? She has 2 interview that each have a “gotcha good” (2 that were just fine) draws huge crowds—but throw the b….under the bus. Men screw up all the time and they make millions and always get the top jobs. Women better be perfect or else.

  33. Claire McCaskill is a Sen. How does she have any police at her command? Is it just that she is part of the St. Louis political machine (about as honest and upright as the Chicago Machine).

  34. OT:
    JEFFERSON CITY – Gov. Matt Blunt today issued the following statement on news reports that have exposed plans by U.S. Senator Barack Obama to use Missouri law enforcement to threaten and intimidate his critics.

    “St. Louis County Circuit Attorney Bob McCulloch, St. Louis City Circuit Attorney Jennifer Joyce, Jefferson County Sheriff Glenn Boyer, and Obama and the leader of his Missouri campaign Senator Claire McCaskill have attached the stench of police state tactics to the Obama-Biden campaign.

    “What Senator Obama and his helpers are doing is scandalous beyond words, the party that claims to be the party of Thomas Jefferson is abusing the justice system and offices of public trust to silence political criticism with threats of prosecution and criminal punishment.

    “This abuse of the law for intimidation insults the most sacred principles and ideals of Jefferson. I can think of nothing more offensive to Jefferson’s thinking than using the power of the state to deprive Americans of their civil rights. The only conceivable purpose of Messrs. McCulloch, Obama and the others is to frighten people away from expressing themselves, to chill free and open debate, to suppress support and donations to conservative organizations targeted by this anti-civil rights, to strangle criticism of Mr. Obama, to suppress ads about his support of higher taxes, and to choke out criticism on television, radio, the Internet, blogs, e-mail and daily conversation about the election.

    “Barack Obama needs to grow up. Leftist blogs and others in the press constantly say false things about me and my family. Usually, we ignore false and scurrilous accusations because the purveyors have no credibility. When necessary, we refute them. Enlisting Missouri law enforcement to intimidate people and kill free debate is reminiscent of the Sedition Acts – not a free society.”

  35. I checked out the video clip posted above of a MO tv station announcing the McCaskill/Obama truth squads. You must go there and check it out. Two things just ripped at me: 1. They are forming truth squads, apparently of law enforcement officials to “respond to” campaign “lies” or insults about Obama. It sounds like these are political truth squads responding to perceived lies or innuendo rather than law enforcement official taking legal action. BUT 2. The tv reporter and the officials they interviewed about this seem to be totally oblivious of the message such an action—-of a law enforcement official acting as political truth squad— would be sending. TV interviewer did not question this kind of activity, just seemed to accept it as a news announcement. The law enforcement officials seemed really proud of what they were going to be doing. WOW The Obamabots do not even get it about their nazi, thuggery tactics. Talk about a “chilling effect”.

  36. The hollywood left is pissed. Erin Brockovich is expressing admiration for Palin.

    http://newsbusters.org/blogs/p-j-gladnick/2008/09/27/left-angered-over-erin-brokovich-praise-sarah-palin

  37. Wow, I thought it was a joke at first. It’s not a joke! WTF?

    I believe in sticking to facts and reality but this is a free country, I’m sorry, the First Amendment does give folks the right to lie as much as they want!

  38. Governor Blunt said explicitly that “I can think of nothing more offensive to Jefferson’s thinking than using the power of the state to deprive Americans of their civil rights.” The U.S. Code (Title 18, Crimes) has a specific name for this.

    TITLE 18 > PART I > CHAPTER 13 > § 241
    § 241. Conspiracy against rights

    TITLE 42 > CHAPTER 21 > SUBCHAPTER I > § 1985
    § 1985. Conspiracy to interfere with civil rights

    Governor Blunt’s press release uses the specific words “using the power of the state to deprive Americans of their civil rights,” “intimidation,” and “silence political criticism with threats of prosecution and criminal punishment.”

    Any attorneys who read this, could you please weigh in on whether, assuming that Governor Blunt’s allegations are proven, this constitutes a violation of the U.S. Code as shown above.

  39. Jangles
    I heard about this yesterday & couldn’t believe my ears.
    I forwarded it every where I could think of.
    IT’S HORRIBLE & he’s NOT even president.

  40. I might consider it my patriotic duty to go to the state of Missouri and tell lies in public..

  41. Oh BTW
    I also “heard” they are trying this in Indiana too.

  42. Madamab – indeed it is – mannnnnny moons ago

  43. madamab – thanks for this. I am feeling kinda down from the whole fix and all, and your writing is exactly what I needed

  44. K. Parker’s comments about Palin needing to leave the McCain ticket is being reported nationally – boy oh boy – of course Parker is a lightweight but the rags are carrying it.

  45. Please Pass This On:

    Shocking Video Unearthed Democrats in their own words Covering up the Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac Scam that caused our Economic Crisis

    “We do not have a crisis at Freddie Mac and in particular at Fannie Mae under the ouststanding leadership of Mr. Frank Raines.”

  46. Iron Man — I happen to be an attorney (although I don’t practice civil rights law) but the question you ask isn’t as clear cut as you are proposing. The Missouri governor is dead right in his assessment but the actions have to actually be taken by BO to be actionable — i.e, police force needs to be used to surpress the ads, etc. Right now, what BO is doing is attempting to use police force to surpess the ads. The attempt isn’t so much actionable as it is unethical. Nonetheless, the press should report these unconstitutional tactics that BO is attempting to use so that this country can understand what kind of “constitutional lawyer” is running for office. If the press would do it’s job, this should be a bigger scandal then Rezko, Wright & Ayers combinded and should result in BO stepping down as the Dem. nominee.

  47. Gov. Blunt of Missouri reacts to the Obama/McKaskill “sedition act”

    http://governor.mo.gov/cgi-bin/coranto/viewnews.cgi?id=EkkkVFulkpOzXqGMaj&style=Default+News+Style&tmpl=newsitem

  48. At first I thought it must be a joke. How could law enforcement be drawn into this game? I know that Barack has co-opted the Democratic (sic) Party, but law enforcement? Scary.

  49. Thanks for those links. WOW! Obama’s and his thugs’ threats in Missouri MUST be exposed!

    Missouri Governor Blunt is calling out Obama’s Chicago thug politics:

    Gov. Blunt Statement on Obama Campaign’s Abusive Use of Missouri Law Enforcement

    JEFFERSON CITY – Gov. Matt Blunt today issued the following statement on news reports that have exposed plans by U.S. Senator Barack Obama to use Missouri law enforcement to threaten and intimidate his critics.

    “St. Louis County Circuit Attorney Bob McCulloch, St. Louis City Circuit Attorney Jennifer Joyce, Jefferson County Sheriff Glenn Boyer, and Obama and the leader of his Missouri campaign Senator Claire McCaskill have attached the stench of police state tactics to the Obama-Biden campaign.

    “What Senator Obama and his helpers are doing is scandalous beyond words, the party that claims to be the party of Thomas Jefferson is abusing the justice system and offices of public trust to silence political criticism with threats of prosecution and criminal punishment.”

  50. dg — the only problem with your analysis is that the only proof that these ads are “lies” is that BO doesn’t like them. Actually these ads seem like fair assessments of BOs records by those who do not like his record — the First Amendment gives wide latitude as to what is considered a “lie” in the context of politics — people being able to express themselves freely politically is exactly what the First Amendment was designed to protect.

  51. angienc, on September 27th, 2008 at 9:15 pm Said:

    i send the info to a friend and i got this response. what is your opinion?!

    angienc, on September 27th, 2008 at 9:15 pm Said:

    Yes, we have laws against slander and libel in the US, and they are invoking applying these laws to television campaign ads which slander.  McCain has lied in interviews and on campaign ads more times already than any other politician in the modern history of this country.  Some of these are skirting the truth by changing contexts, but most are what we call bald-faced lies that are easily substantiated with the actual facts.  Like calling him a muslim, saying he isn’t a US citizen, etc.  To you that is a police state– to me that is freedom–to be able to defend your good character when slandered.

  52. The %$$@? Please tell me the Mo Governor is just playing politics here and BO isn’t actually doing this.

  53. God help us all.

  54. Thanks angienc,

    I appreacite you taking the time to answer my question.

    The allegations of what Obama and his campaign are doingin Missouri are shocking, to say the least. And I agree with you 100% that the media should be reporting this to the American people.

    (Asking questions outloud here)

    What is it going to take for the mainstream media to start reporting the actions of Obama and his cohorts?

    If a statement from the Governor of Missouri can’t get the Obama cheerleaders (the MSM) to do their job and report this, what will?

  55. audacity, please tell you “friend” that if BO feels he’s being slandered, he should file a suit and address the matter in court where the threshold of proof are very high. But sending a bunch of cops to threaten and harass people in an extralegal fashion? That’s not being able to defend yourself, that’s flat out thuggery.

  56. thresholds are very high

    SOD, my computer sucks, I can’t play vid. Thanks though.

  57. angienc,

    Is your friend a supporter of Obama? If so, I wonder if he thinks Obama has ever told a lie on the campaign trail?

    thanks for the update

    I don’t think the Governor of Missouri would come out so forceful if he thought Obama wasn’t doing this. There are names and titles of individuals in MO that are supposedly doing this.

    I say, let the media report it and let the American peopel decide for themsleves what they think about it. Problem is, the medai is bending over backwards to try and cover for Obama.

    My $ .02

  58. I find it difficult to believe that anyone would think that McCain has lied more than any other politician in modern history. Isn’t that a bit grandiose? Obama has lied repeatedly, both during the primary and, now the GE. He lies everyday about McCain, just like he lied about Senator Clinton.

  59. Maybe Will, Darrah, Heidi and Diane can make the TV rounds again.

    they don’t have any clout at this moment. maybe heidi li

  60. There’s a good reason Obama is resorting to police intimidation instead of the court system. It is perfectly legal to say just about anything about any politican.

    Private individuals are legally protected against slander and libel, but not public figures. If Obama took his whines to any court of law they would be laughing all the way to the wastebasket.

  61. Well, at least it’s getting some play in MO. That’s something.

  62. Private individuals are legally protected against slander and libel, but not public figures. If Obama took his whines to any court of law they would be laughing all the way to the wastebasket.

    =======================================

    So, basically he is using bullying and intimidation techniques. Just like his community organizing days, and the Chicago-style politics. It is the Alinsky method.

  63. audicity — with all due respect, your friend doesn’t know what s/he is talking about — slander and libel are civil actions, not criminal. The proper route to challenge slander is by filing a lawsuit in a court NOT by sending police forces. Furthermore, the threshold as to what constitutes slander for a public figure (which is what BO is because he is running for office) is very, very high. I’ve seen those ads, and even if they are technically not “true” they do not rise to the level of slander. Slander means more then “it isn’t true” — it must be harmful to a person’s reputation to the extent that it ruins someones ability to work, etc. Finally, your friend doesn’t even have his/her facts straight — McCain has never said that BO is a muslim. Furthermore, I would ask your friend to explain to me something that has really bothered me since this race began — exactly why is being called a muslim slanderous other then that it isn’t true (and as I pointed out above — the fact that something isn’t true doesn’t make it slander).

  64. McCain’s latest ad certainly tells the absolute truth.

    It features Obama saying:

    “I think Senator McCain’s absolutely right that we need more responsibility…”

    “Senator McCain is absolutely right that the earmarks process has been abused…”“He’s also right that oftentimes lobbyists and special interests are the ones that are introducing these…requests…”

    “John mentioned the fact that business taxes on paper are high in this country, and he’s absolutely right…”

    “John is right we have to make cuts…”

    “Senator McCain is absolutely right that the violence has been reduced as a consequence of the extraordinary sacrifice of our troops and our military families…”

    “John — you’re absolutely right that presidents have to be prudent in what they say…”

    “Senator McCain is absolutely right, we cannot tolerate a nuclear Iran…”

  65. so far the Repubs are holding tight to their demands that ACORN come out of the bailout – hope they don’t fold

  66. …and the four horsemen are scheduled to arrive when?

  67. I keep hearing about this Obama-is-going-to-raise-taxes ‘lie’, but how will he pay for all of his programs–the health insurance PLUS his new war in Afghanistan?

    Hillary pointed out that BO never said how he was going to pay for all of that. Big Dawg had to use the war dividend from ending Desert Storm to pay for his programs, and it took his entire first term to pay down the Republican debt.

    Obama is trying to weasel by pretending he’s going to put all these programs in place without raising taxes, but it can’t be done. Doesn’t matter if he has a posse.

  68. Obama got busted yesterday running a lying ad against McCain.

    Jake Tapper has the story

  69. Nijima:

    TANSTAAFL – There Ain’t No Such Thing As A Free Lunch

    Government must tax in order to spend.

  70. PS — I just read Nijma posted and s/he is basically right — proving slander against a politician is next to impossible. This is exactly why BO is using Stalinesque tactics.

  71. my friend was a huge hillary supporter. also she was a big activist against pelosi for the past 20-30 years. she was depressed after hillary lost and did not want to vote at all. she is a lesbian and an aids activist. she is fiscally conservative and socially very liberal.

    both of us r very sensitive and clear about separation of church and state. i’m a kucinich voter who turned hillary after kucinich suspended.

    i just believe that she really does not like mccain. and i guess palin made her to choose obama. deregulations r her big problem.

    people can be strange.

    for me, hillary and obama r far right. 🙂

    of course as an immigrant i do not know all the historical details. but contrary to my liberal/progressive what ever convictions i decided to vote republican all the way down ticket on may 31 after the RBC meeting. and i still have my registration as democrat so i can vote against them in their primary. the roll call was just the icing in the cake

    i can’t vote for obama for 3 reasons (obvious ones)

    fisa
    expending faith based initiatives
    shadow civil army (obviously acorn and the MO case r a recent example)

    and i’m not talking about the GLTB issues and the fact that my partner is AA and votes like me. and the rest …

    coming from a communist country, i can feel certain packages that stink. and obama is one of them. also after blogging on TM (early) and reading RD and NoQ, thanks to all ladies on the blogs, i enriched my knowledge/perception?!!!!! about women issues,

    so

    i have to thank all of you

  72. myiq2xu
    Do you have a link to the Tapper article?

  73. angienc:

    IIRC, NYT v. Sullivan is the operative case.

    It take falsehood + malice + actual harm doesn’t it?

    (Torts was years ago and I don’t want to look it up)

  74. birdgal,
    I have often noticed that Obama complains about someone else doing something at the same time he himself starts doing it. (remember when he said Hillary was secretly reversing her position on NAFTA with Canadian officials? Then someone in Canada leaked that it was really Obama and produced the document.) Maybe you could call it “projection” but nothing in a political campaign is subconscious–it has to be a deliberate tactic.

    So if Obama says someone else is lying, it’s a tip-off to look for his own new lies.

    I think that’s a strategy against the “Obama will raise your taxes” meme. The police thing just gets it in the news cycle as legitimate news.

  75. Are there any links where one can voice their concerns about the Missouri brownshirts? A petition, etc.,

    OT -PLEASE, please take a moment and send an email or both an email and letter to your Reps in Congress concerning the the $150 billion bailout of ACORN. It takes only a couple of seconds. Here is the link:

    http://www.rallycongress.com/americansforleadership/1228/a-call-to-the-house-and-the-senate-

    PLEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAASE!

  76. angienc

    thanks for clarifying that for me. as u see in my above post, some things and notions r new to me and it is very difficult to catch up with all the history, laws ….and cultural vernacular of US

  77. Sorry, it wasn’t an “ad,” it was a YouTube clip that was edited to show only part of a quote.

    The Obama campaign was “circulating” the clip

  78. audacity, this is getting really scary! I just don’t get it, I’m asking myself now is there anything that people won’t justify.defend because they wnat to see a Dem in the White House?

    Bush pushed his luck, he’d get away with something audacious (like, say, stealing an election), and it would just spur him him on try something even more audacious. I see Obama doing the same thing, with the same group of supporters who just keep going farher and farther down the line with him, never coming to the point where they say no.

  79. myiq,
    Government must tax in order to spend.
    Have you checked the national debt lately? No taxes there, unless of course you consider the depressed wages represented by the rise of the Big Box economy and the new impossibility of ordinary people participating in the housing market as a hidden tax….oh, we pay for it all right, but try to make that nuanced argument during an election.

    The fact remains that any politician, national or local, who raises taxes looses the election.

  80. More Obama gangland tactics: Signs banned at Virginia rally today

    Reader Ron e-mails that the Obama campaign has issued a decree banning all signs at a rally today at the University of Mary Washington in Virginia.

    It is a public campus on public property.

    The local newspaper, the Fredericksburg Free Lance Star is up in arms:

    Signs of liberty

    Date published: 9/27/2008

    NOT ALL COUNTRIES guarantee their citizens the right to virtually unbridled freedom of speech. The United States does. Would someone please tell the campaign of Sen. Barack Obama? And the dozing guardians of liberty at the University of Mary Washington?

    Mr. Obama, the Democratic nominee for president, is scheduled to speak at a rally at the university today. The public is invited to this forum, on property it, the public, owns. However, signs and banners will not be allowed, according to the organizers and compliant campus officials. Suddenly, UMW is a First Amendment-Free, or at least a First Amendment-Crippled, Zone, subject to the self-serving preferences of politicos. Why does an Obama rally–or a McCain rally or a Nader rally–justify taking a little off the top of Americans’ most fundamental rights?

    A UMW spokeswoman says that the Obama campaign required the sign-and-banner ban. That campaign tells us that the ban is for “security” reasons. But a spokesman for the U.S. Secret Service, responsible for protecting presidential candidates, says that the service has no objection to signs at rallies, provided that no “part of the sign could be used as a weapon”–e.g., a heavy metal pole or a sharpened stick. Finally, the McCain campaign tells us, “We encourage people to make signs at our events.”

    http://fredericksburg.com/News/FLS/2008/092008/09272008/413770

  81. Thank you, madamab, for this most excellent play! I do declare! Not to step on your feathered stiletto’s but . . .

    New post and thread up top.

  82. myiq2xu — absolutely right — NYT v. Sullivan — falsehood + actual malice (ie reckless disregard) + actual harm.

  83. egad, I’m getting moderated, let me sign in and post his again…

    birdgal,
    I have often noticed that Obama complains about someone else doing something at the same time he himself starts doing it. (remember when he said Hillary was secretly reversing her position on NAFTA with Canadian officials? Then someone in Canada leaked that it was really Obama and produced the document.) Maybe you could call it “projection” but nothing in a political campaign is subconscious–it has to be a deliberate tactic.

    So if Obama says someone else is lying, it’s a tip-off to look for his own new lies.

    I think that’s a strategy against the “Obama will raise your taxes” meme. The police thing just gets it in the news cycle as legitimate news.

  84. egad, I’m getting moderated, let me sign in and post his again…

    birdgal,
    I have often noticed that Obama complains about someone else doing something at the same time he himself starts doing it. (remember when he said Hillary was secretly reversing her position on NA*FTA with Canadian officials? Then someone in Canada leaked that it was really Obama and produced the document.) Maybe you could call it “projection” but nothing in a political campaign is subconscious–it has to be a deliberate tactic.

    So if Obama says someone else is lying, it’s a tip-off to look for his own new lies.

    I think that’s a strategy against the “Obama will raise your taxes” meme. The police thing just gets it in the news cycle as legitimate news.

  85. I’m gonna invoke Godwin and point out that the Nazis didn’t consider themselves evil, and the German people would never have voted for Hitler if they knew what he was really going to do.

    Any person or group that takes power corruptly will be corrupt.

    Anyone who thinks that it’s possible to corruptly seize power and then rule like a saint is a fool.

  86. audicity — you are welcome. I hope you pass on my comments to your friend because s/he has it exactly wrong — the threat of the police showing up at your door is enough to prevent all people from expressing their opinions. This is the exact opposite of the First Amendment was designed to protect.

  87. Nijma, You are absolutely right. I realized the tactics back in March. Everytime, the Obama campaign accused Senator Clinton of something, they were actually doing it. The technique is projection, as well as Chicago style politics. Accuse your opponent of doing exactly, what you, yourself is doing. Slimey, no?

  88. Nijma, “So if Obama says someone else is lying, it’s a tip-off to look for his own new lies.”

    We used to complain about this Rovian tactic in previous elections: whatever underhanded thing the Republicans were doing, they would get out in front of it and accuse Democrats, thus diverting media attention.

    Oh yes, Axelrove learned well the maestro’s tricks. But those of us who still honor democratic principles are just as outraged – more so – when our own party is doing the things we so despised in the other.

    😈

  89. I’m in moderation?

  90. Seriously — it’s true.

  91. well if our hope lies in the MSM taking up this cause….

    [[[[ crickets ]]]]

    There’s your MSM for you

  92. Maybe Will, Darrah, Heidi and Diane can make the TV rounds again.

  93. angienc, nijma, SOD, birdgal

    i took all your comments, no names, and i sent them to my friend

    thanks all

  94. Wonder how that’s gonna work out…

  95. Maybe they’ll just have Joe Biden fix it.

  96. Link?

  97. Indictment coming! Well Mr. Obama should have been vetted by the msm. Mr. Rezko is cooperating with the feds and turning on the messiah as well as the Gov. of Illinois. You heard it first from me, a little birdie told me this will happen in the next few weeks! Maybe now people will realize why Bill Clinton has been so smug the last few weeks.

  98. Since MO has already been brought up on this thread, i want to post a reply to the “rebuttal” offered by the Obomabots attempts to dismiss the matter as some sort of relative equivalency. I have not posted the links to the rebuttal articles, but if you pursue this MO scandal very far, you will inevitably come across them

    If in fact McCain has a “Truth Squad” (no McCain didn’t call it that either btw) that was in any degree equivalent to what Obama is doing, you KNOW this would have been grabbed & spun by the MSM so fast it would have forced McCain to retire from politics! The comparison here is akin to the ever recycled attempt to draw an “equivalency” between the 3-Mile Island Incident and Chernobyl in discussions about Nuclear Energy. Of course every campaign will have a legal team tasked with addressing legally indictable slander & defamation. That is a far cry from the pattern of what we see in the MO story, & i will offer some reasons as to why i see it this way.

    #1 In spite of Damage Control trying to mop up after the fact, we are still left with the recorded comments in the interviews. The statements are inherently intimidating. The comments by the Missouri state “Truth Squad” have obviously scared the holy hell out of a lot of people that Freedom of Speech is being suppressed. Unfortunately, attempting to backtrack & “say” this is not so loses credibility in this instance because concerned people will inevitably question the “corrected” statement because the basic right to tell or be told the truth is already in doubt the first place. This leaves a spectre of fear & intimidation over free expression.

    #2 The attempt to mollify concerns about the Truth Squads actually made them seem even more sinister, not because of what they said, but because of what it “didn’t” say. It kept repeating “they never said they WOULD use the Truth Squads to suppress free speech. What it didn’t promise was that it “wouldn’t” use them to suppress free speech, nor did it outline any mechanisms to assure us that they “couldn’t” suppress free speech. Again, this omission raises the spectre of Intimidation against those who challenge Senator Obama on any level.

    #3, if the Obama Campaign won’t use intimidation to stifle the free expression of the “truth” as seen by his opponents, then why is Obama calling for charges against people investigating & reporting on his connections to Ayers? He says the alleged associations are a “lie”. Unfortunately Obama has hurt himself by being less than forthcoming on the matter. It is hardly fair for him to not expect investigation into his past when he himself is so unwilling to disclose it to the public. It is hardly ethical for him to call for criminal indictment against those who investigate & report something contrary to his version of the “truth” when he is not transparent enough to let the people decide the “truth” for themselves.

    #4, concerning the NRA adds in PA, if Obama’s campaign is indeed NOT trying to intimidate media outlets from airing the NRA’s arguments about His voting record, then why does the NRA have to send legal rebuttal letters to these same outlets to order to persuade them that are indeed within their legal rights to broadcast? Again, we see this same spectre of Intimidation from Camp Obama.

    #5 Why, 9 months before any of these other incidents came to our attention, do we have the Hillary for President campaign lodging very similar complaints against Camp Obama in the Nevada Primary Caucus? These complaints were very specific and clearly enumerated. However, at the time that it was easily dismissed as party spin to discredit Obama in Nevada. I doubt it could be dimissed quite so easily now because…

    #6 Missouri, or Pennsylvania, or the Nevada Caucus are no longer isolated incidents. We have an ongoing, recurring, documented pattern of Obama’s campaign being called into question for strong-arm tactics designed to mute expressions that do not favor Obama. Curiously, one aspect of Friday’s Debate that i rarely see mentioned is that whenever McCain laid Obama vulnerable, THAT was the moment Obama would interrupt in an attempt to “mute” Senator McCain. It is consistent with the way that we get to see so little or the plentiful material of Obama detractors aired & given a fair shake on tv or radio media. Obama simply says “its a lie” & then we never here from the author or investigator again.

    I think these points give some credibility to the concerns about a high-handed “Truth Squad” suppressing Free Speech & stifling the open political discourse that is so essential to making an informed, educated decision at the ballot box this November.

    Hopefully this post will stay in the thread! ; )

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